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 (DIR) Post #A3pV78lnGDoDXqssxk by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T12:18:27Z
       
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       Israel's covid cases and deaths are just beginning to decline a bit, after vaccinating 54% of the population (30% two weeks ago), and after having been in strict lockdown since _September_. Israeli flu season usually peaks between December and February, and weather right now is perfect for fighting flu.Meanwhile, Sweden's cases and deaths have been falling since late December, having had hardly any lockdown (or even voluntary measures) the whole time, and Sweden is freezing and dark right now.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pVS15N1eLBnHzn84 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T12:22:14Z
       
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       Israel's test positivity rate is going up, while their testing rate is going down... Sweden's testing rate is fairly steady, and their positivity rate is going down.Fact is, Israel's drop in cases/deaths might not even be real. I could certainly see people being in denial about the fact that they've gotten covid after getting vaccinated.Makes you wonder how many people tested positive after getting vaccinated, and then got another test to confirm that they really were infected.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pWJbb80LcONmP3q4 by akhavr@mastodon.social
       2021-02-01T12:31:54Z
       
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       @pete I wonder if their PCR tests target the same spike protein, the mRNA vaccine generates...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pWTK8bm8657whIbQ by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T12:33:40Z
       
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       @akhavr PCR tests are based on amplifying and detecting RNA, not proteins, so that shouldn't be an issue.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pX7dbOpIzP4uO4vY by akhavr@mastodon.social
       2021-02-01T12:40:56Z
       
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       @pete yeah, forgot that
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pbzarfcWhA2eyuum by kalle@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T13:35:29Z
       
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       @pete freezing, yes. Dark, no. Proof from my back yard.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pfZntow1T2kuwfUe by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T14:15:41Z
       
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       @kalle I don't mean dark literally. I mean hours and intensity of sunlight. Shortest day of the year in Stockholm is almost half as long as shortest day in Tel Aviv.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pfzwMu4NJ4YF0ljk by kalle@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T14:20:24Z
       
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       @pete I know, I just wanted to brag about the beautiful snow we just got here.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3phHrG9u15NsCxqeO by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T14:34:51Z
       
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       @pete Nordic countries are cheating, social distancing was already an ingrained part of the culture in the before-fore times.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3piAhOuG8ItDvCqK8 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T14:44:46Z
       
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       @kalle Pff, we get so much we don't need to brag.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pkZjaPTDkf9LeV5U by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T15:11:42Z
       
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       @kekcoin Seriously though, all the stats and other indications are that they're social distancing a lot less than other countries right now. Though the specifics might not matter - eg they have some of the lowest mask usage. But masks don't seem to have much effect. Stuff like average # of people in a household might be far more important.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3pnGhJK0T3mS7H1fc by Zachary_BTC@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T15:41:52Z
       
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       @pete @kekcoin how come everyone is ignoring we have an effective and cheap treatment for this cold/flu virus?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3q3x7AHrz8M4EIOcS by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T18:48:49Z
       
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       @Zachary_BTC @kekcoin What treatment exactly?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qIYJ6top8NBiL91c by Zachary_BTC@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T21:32:24Z
       
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       @pete @kekcoin HydroxyChloroquine and zinc. HCQ acts as a zinc ionophore afaik and allows the zinc to slow and disrupt the virus life cycle helping you out while your body does it's thing. Look at places that use it for malaria prevention and have it OTC, very few cases/deaths.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qRIGrpI2nVBXiZeq by Zachary_BTC@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T21:35:10Z
       
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       @pete @kekcoin The MSM screamed heartattack!, Danger!, etc but anyone who knows can tell you its been used for many things for decades safely. The media pushed "Will every American who needs a ventilator get one Donald?" for how long, meanwhile the ventilators are literally killing people.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qRIHKBabTybUzDrU by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T23:10:21Z
       
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       @Zachary_BTC @kekcoin The fact is, HCQ has underperformed in actual randomized trials. Though they keep on doing trials on treatment methods that are subtlety different from what people claim it works well at, so maybe there is in fact a niche usage where it has some benefit.Meanwhile, look at how Remdesivir was hailed as a miracle, when it too doesn't look like it works very well. But at *much* higher cost, and without the decades of safe usage: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/01/31/remdesivir-covid-coronavirus/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qRNGnGzTLsPByJbE by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T23:11:16Z
       
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       @Zachary_BTC @kekcoin ...and don't get me started on that ridiculous fishtank story... Media may have very well managed to help cover up a premeditated murder.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qS9qGSPkmQJdmdcW by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T23:20:02Z
       
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       @pete @Zachary_BTC I'll bite... Fishtank story?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qScCONjlgx3J0n2m by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-01T23:25:10Z
       
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       @kekcoin @Zachary_BTC IIRC I found an even better write-up months ago. But this matches what I remember: https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/man-who-died-ingesting-fish-tank-cleaner-remembered-as-intelligent-levelheaded/tl;dr: spouse with history of potential abuse claims intelligent, level headed, Democrat donating engineer voluntarily ingested fishtank cleaner that doesn't even contain HCQ because he believed Trump. Riiiight...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qVWb5JJnMrl96zgW by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-01T23:57:45Z
       
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       @pete @Zachary_BTC So it wasn't the husband but the wife. Does that really change that much about the story?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qW8jJZATQ0Hvxl6u by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-02T00:04:40Z
       
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       @kekcoin @Zachary_BTC I mean, the mainstream story was these were idiot Trump supporters. The actual facts looks much more like an abusive spouse killing her husband and using the politics to get away with it. Police investigated - as is standard procedure - but didn't lay charges IIUC. I would not be surprised if the media fuss made them disinclined to investigate fully. Of course, even with a full investigation, it could be hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qXTR50GAjllkaXM8 by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-02T00:19:36Z
       
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       @pete @Zachary_BTC From the way the story is told she also ingested it. Did I misunderstand that? If she did, then it doesn't really seem like murder.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qYBD9RPGtlJRXP4S by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
       2021-02-02T00:27:31Z
       
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       @kekcoin @Zachary_BTC Easy: she ingests a small amount, and gives him a large amount. Obvious deniability.She wound up in hospital and recovered; he died almost immediately. That doesn't sound like the same dose to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3qevbuUHlcp993FmC by MultiBitcoiner@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-02T01:43:09Z
       
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       @pete really makes you wonder