Post A3ZiCyVWWF8yKT1mCG by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
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 (DIR) Post #A3ZUav4rWaeXHb53mC by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T18:57:02.673729Z
       
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       In today's episode of boomers learning the hard way how networks work> "They don't call first, they just come to your house," Bree Stevens, a legal investigator who lives near Capitol Hill, said. > Stevens said an FBI agent told her they were reaching out to every single person whose cell phone put them near the Capitol during the riots............> "Extremely creepy, because he explained that they have everyone’s phone number from pinging off the cell phone towers, and they know basically exactly where you were, within the vicinity of the Capitol," Stevens said. "And they can actually pinpoint on Google Maps exactly where you were standing. Like, he knew where I was standing on the sidewalk, like specifically, based on my cell phone ping." > Stevens said the agent told her she wasn't a suspect, but said he wanted pictures of things she might have seen.https://www.wusa9.com/article/features/producers-picks/fbi-tracks-cell-phones-that-were-near-capitol-insurrection-and-riot/65-ca268165-a5c5-46a4-8b88-943a8517343a
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVIn3qgs1DA7WepM by flapflap@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2021-01-24T19:04:58.607706Z
       
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       @dude I want to know why people integrate something so completely into their lives without having even an inkling of how it does what it does.>it's magic, bro!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVNpv9UA2bTmrdE8 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:05:53.713275Z
       
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       @flapflap and they look down on radio*starts counting all of the radios in their black box*
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVUuSH1emrZLjGfA by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2021-01-24T19:07:10.313253Z
       
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       @flapflap @dude It reminds me of how so many people drive, but can't even change their car's oil on their own.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVYoE87jGXPYyODQ by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2021-01-24T19:07:52.661694Z
       
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       @flapflap @dude The effects of highly-connected technology are obviously different, but the reliance on something they don't understand is similar.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVkf8XkKWMh50o3E by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:10:00.884233Z
       
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       @tk no one maintains things any more. Every thing's disposable in a consumer society by design. This is one of the reasons that  we can't have nice things @flapflap
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVoYk7ScmC1PRia0 by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2021-01-24T19:10:43.462534Z
       
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       @dude @flapflap So wasteful.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVuuEWTNbsPVh320 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:11:52.276544Z
       
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       @tk no doubt. It's maddening @flapflap
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZVvlTEXPrvWTz2oq by flapflap@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2021-01-24T19:12:00.560523Z
       
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       @tk @dude I think it's sadder that many people wouldn't change their oil at all if they weren't given hard reminders to do so.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZW1ere0rGultDC2i by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:13:05.084067Z
       
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       @flapflap even then they avoid it @tk
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZWcLIXipxWnpHmgC by flapflap@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2021-01-24T19:19:42.862637Z
       
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       @tk @dude I would fully expect denizens of a backwater developing country thrown hard into the greater world market to be more disoriented and clueless about "high technology".  but the joke is that many of them have a much better idea of how it works than a typical person on street of a "highly developed" / "first world" country.  it's almost like the more highly developed the society the more atrophied the brain and spirit of the parts that compose it.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZX8yse5jrwpcjgJc by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:25:36.947123Z
       
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       @dude people were warned and they didn't care because "I'm not doing anything wrong"well guess what, now you're being visited because you were on a nearby sidewalk
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXEg1N7fb04uX8QS by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:26:39.013891Z
       
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       @Moon and as for those that think they were slick by getting away for the day, they're in for a rude awakening
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXLaj7CotdgWI71s by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:27:53.783310Z
       
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       @dude phone records is probably how they got people on the no-fly list..
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXOCdNEoYrpcqoZU by DA70D6@kiwifarms.cc
       2021-01-24T19:28:22.216364Z
       
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       @flapflap @tk @dude It's because they don't take it for granted. They don't trust it without knowing why it works.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXOpX0cPdwTBAmZ6 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:28:28.628084Z
       
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       @Moon considering the architecture on the Hill it's pretty safe to assume they were hitting gov boosters as well as the known towers
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXcnZQhq8qRSxwZM by takao@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:31:00.630233Z
       
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       @dude >And they can actually pinpoint on Google Maps exactly where you were standing. Like, he knew where I was standing on the sidewalk, like specifically, based on my cell phone ping.That doesn't sound right if they're talking about radio connection with towers only. They could triangulate the position pretty well based on data from a period of time and a number of towers but I think the error margin would still be enough to prevent exact pinpointing.Unless they're also using sumaho gps spying data too.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXdg0wHmETIQFfwe by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:31:09.988915Z
       
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       @dude during "emergencies" the phone company can put all cellphones connected to specific towers into high-resolution GPS mode.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXm4LThrdX4hrQ9Y by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:32:37.288700Z
       
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       @dude it's hard for me to get too upset because people were actually breaking the law, I'm more bothered by the phone companies tracking everybody all the time as a matter of course.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXmvRKIqo3kC0L7w by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:32:50.110963Z
       
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       @takao there's also wifi and bluetooth radios enabled on many of these devices. I would expect resolution within a few feet without GPS in an area with that sort of infra
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXrT41EPipBZGhwu by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:33:39.584557Z
       
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       @Moon yeah, people are way too complacent. Maybe this will wake up a few of the "if I have nothing to hide" crowd
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXt81QR3qeVLqahs by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:33:57.589698Z
       
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       @Moon @dude When the right people are protesting, the machine is very efficient.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZXyq9pleumpwVIxc by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:34:59.274832Z
       
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       @Moon DC's also wired for FirstNet already for Federal interop. Here's an article about the networks in the area https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/why-cell-networks-cut-out-at-the-us-capitol-riot
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZY4L7q3cw2KVC1h2 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:35:59.181223Z
       
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       @dubh stingray devices have been a regular at protests for at least the past decade. This is just very high profile @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZY4PcTLfoeGfYXzs by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:35:59.846862Z
       
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       @dubh @dude absolutely true. But you also get special attention if you're rampaging in a major federal building rather than a Target or Footlocker.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZY7ERXMI3CTQmmkS by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:36:30.532242Z
       
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       @dude @Moon The FBI rolling out and following up, on the other hand...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZY88PhGJqw3wM6ee by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:36:40.351617Z
       
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       @Moon particularly during a joint session of Congress with the VP also in attendance  @dubh
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYDSwkLeMzC0M9z6 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:37:38.167095Z
       
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       @dubh depends on what they have pc for beyond knowing who's in the area. This is an odd event due to the circumstances. @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYDxwT6jZDK7SsM4 by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:37:43.538911Z
       
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       @Moon @dude Yeah, that's the difference.  Black Panthers didn't literally bomb that building or anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYN94H6wtwR6Ue1I by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:39:23.008247Z
       
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       @dude @Moon "This water isn't wet, it's complicated dry."
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYSmTA2rB45LowlM by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:40:23.526306Z
       
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       @dubh are you just here to seethe? If so that shit got boring a week ago. Find somewhere else to whine @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYW2Ffp4Phu141mi by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:40:59.460063Z
       
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       @dude @Moon lol, ok.  take care.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYY05yoL9LnHT0c4 by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T19:41:20.848260Z
       
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       @dubh good day :dude:  @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYYmlnq97oktP5Sy by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:41:29.135611Z
       
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       @dubh @dude I mean, I still agree with you. They got special attention because they weren't a MIL-approved protest.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYbFZLjj4ceZknnU by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:41:55.989835Z
       
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       @dubh @dude *MIC
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYiGtbCcjynLZcFk by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:43:12.038286Z
       
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       @Moon @dude I'm good, no point in talking.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYwhh8MTYxxrcna4 by shmibs@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
       2021-01-24T19:45:47.007283Z
       
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       @Moon @dubh @dude "normal" protest gets this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZYyIaUgE4kfwHOTY by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:46:05.935183Z
       
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       @dubh @dude enjoy your bubble.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZZ7PJL3J4A8LbAg4 by dubh@collapsitarian.io
       2021-01-24T19:47:44.724394Z
       
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       @Moon @dude My bubble?  Who the fuck are you talking to, Moon?  If my attention is a gift then let me withdraw it.  Wasting my time trying to talk to you, so you can spit in my mouth in return.  My bubble indeed, as if I plugged my ears.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZZ8Z3uHdVGfKvrcW by Moon@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T19:47:57.233997Z
       
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       @shmibs @dubh @dude these are used by police specifically because then they don't have to ask the phone company for phone records (and so they can lie later about how they got location information.)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZiCyVWWF8yKT1mCG by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2021-01-24T21:29:35.570618Z
       
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       @Moon @dude >mfw they would probably have gotten in less trouble if they'd gone in guns blazing and drained the swamp the old fashioned way
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZnDVKYyzAjtoyNbE by jeff@pl.i2p.rocks
       2021-01-24T22:25:43.244317Z
       
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       @dude this is why i dont go outside. also never bring your fucking phone to a protest holy fuck.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZnqJ8MGR0pMhlbc0 by camedei456@shitposter.club
       2021-01-24T22:32:44.156256Z
       
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       @dude And people wonder why I'm happy to not have a cell-phone and act as if those don't exist...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZqmBLhZ7ghvQjTua by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T23:05:36.315773Z
       
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       @jeff worse case burner and a faraday bag but yeah. Add to that all of their social networks linked to their RealID for convenient facial recognition. The feds don't have enough vans, they're already talking about letting some of the minor cases walk which I'm okay with so long as it's just a few of the lemmings who were swept up in the mob
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Zqyb7TZppTKHzzdo by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2021-01-24T23:07:50.473233Z
       
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       @camedei456 I have one but when the battery is in it I assume it's watching and listening to everything
       
 (DIR) Post #A3aDo0xpRhBxF2PQBs by anotherposter@shitposter.club
       2021-01-25T03:23:39.481121Z
       
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       @DA70D6 It's not that people don't trust it, it's more that people don't want to pay to get their things repaired.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3bmwCKikZOWNBiKoa by camedei456@shitposter.club
       2021-01-25T21:32:01.299632Z
       
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       @anotherposter @DA70D6 You don't need to repair a phone if you don't have one.A tower PC's easier (and in some cases cheaper) to self-repair anyway.