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(DIR) Post #A3W4qAn8Cabq52WJ72 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:24:17Z
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THREADNew Party? Choke Your MotorCorruption shared by the GOP and DNC makes a new party understandable, but there's only one viable spearhead, and it's not US.If anyone but Trump organized such a party you might as well call it The Parler Party, and have Lin Wood organize it.The new Perot II party could do major damage to the newly divided GOP only.BEST case it would go the way of the Tea Party. WORST case, IF it survived and remained viable, we would then have a third [leg] party.
(DIR) Post #A3W53LPI2rzAlgeIsa by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:26:40Z
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With such a new party we could ALL be screwed for generations, crushed by the DNC/GOPeRINO machine, which would UNITE, having us as its common foe.Trump is the ONLY MAN ON EARTH who could create a new party that INSTANTLY dwarfs both of the others. Especially now that everyone's awake and paying attention.CONSERVATIVELY (and apart from Independents), Trump could take two thirds of the GOP (just as a start) and 20-30% of the MILLIONS of Trump Democrats - mostly blue collar.
(DIR) Post #A3W5GYTskPIJ5662F6 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:29:03Z
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IF Trump formed such a party, what would remain is a mostly far-left DNC and a GOP marginalized to the point of extinction. They could not compete, even if they managed to combine forces.Why A New Party?FIRST AND FOREMOST, it's about election integrity and reform. We already know that the DNC and GOP are slopping from the same Dominionesque trough. A viable MAJOR party could effectively control, once and for all, how most state elections are run.
(DIR) Post #A3W5ZPMAtajEHiTt1k by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:32:28Z
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@StevenDouglas Trump has already said he is not forming a new party.If he did the vast majority of Democrats would remain Democrats.We would be destroyedPlease don't do this
(DIR) Post #A3W5ad1ZZ5PGxpQVSy by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:32:40Z
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SECONDLY, new platforms (already in the making) would ensure effective PARTY CENTRIC media communications on all levels, news and social. "PATRIOT" PARTY?Holy smokes, that name, in my opinion, is INSANE.You might as well call it TEA PARTY PART DUH-WE'RE-STUPID.It appeals to MANY MANY in our base, but it is NOT the reason Trump got untold millions of Democrats and former Democrats solidly behind him, who are an integral part of his historically massive base.
(DIR) Post #A3W5ruy66RafXU2rse by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:35:47Z
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@jedi757 This is the sort of malicious and childish baiting and idiocy that will divide this site.The third party zealots are on the loose@StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A3W60B8Pse49zkoL32 by MrHobbit@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:37:18Z
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@timr @StevenDouglas I came across that too, so that settles that debate.Trump will continue to remake the GOP from within.Still, the party needs to regain the base's confidence and quash the election fraud ASAP, because if we don't we won't stand a chance in any future election.
(DIR) Post #A3W64gHc0uCNl4G7cG by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:38:06Z
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Black, Hispanic and Asian support for Trump dwarfs anything Republicans have attracted in recent history. That doesn't mean they were "RED PILLED". More aptly, they were "anti-Blue Pilled".They didn't become conservatives, nor did they all suddenly want to dress up as Yankey Doodle Dandies.They are ISSUE driven. FOR SURVIVAL.The Patriot theme does NOT resonate with all Trump supporters. America First and MAGA do. Don't conflate that with Patriot. They don't have the same associations.
(DIR) Post #A3W6H3SRfzbP6mE6UK by Bluifox@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:40:21Z
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@timr @jedi757 @StevenDouglas every time someone disagrees with you you call them childish or some other derogatory term. You can have a third-party along with the remaining publicans and have more combined then Democrats
(DIR) Post #A3W6ITwGhpkJWkrABs by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:40:36Z
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The fact that the DNC was hijacked by the far left wing of the DNC didn't mean that Blue Collar and Blue Dog Dems in the "big tent" were on board with globalist identity politics crap. Their Jump-To-Trump was an easy one, because they were What's For Dinner.Whatever name is chosen it must resonate with the entire NEW base, just like its platform.And I have some thoughts on that.
(DIR) Post #A3W6UQRjW6bsAdGjyK by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:42:45Z
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@BluifoxThis is what I mean. This angry, romantic clamoring for a third party here is a debacle. @jedi757 @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A3W6Xm0dnoWpuqC2ca by sworks22@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:43:22Z
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@timr @StevenDouglas once they get to DC, it becomes just one Uni-Party anyway. Rep & Dem they are all the same. You want to learn something, research the District of Colombia Organic Act of 1871, two constitutions!!!’
(DIR) Post #A3W6s2JWtLvmH8grRI by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:47:01Z
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@sworks22They most certainly are not the same. Biden's disgusting antics make that clear.If you really want to give the country to the left permanently, then by all means demand a third party.It is not viable. But reason and pragmatism matter little to the third party zealots @StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A3W77GRIel3SQbaObw by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:49:47Z
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IF (BIG IF) Trump-and-Trump-only did later decide to "throw a party":The Democrat and Republican names are derived from the Constitution.I personally recommend going back to the Declaration of Independence for ours, given that we have not gotten any redress for our grievances.The original premise was simply American Independence.That is what is at stake.Hijack the Independent name. The American Independence Party.Let current "independents" declare themselves as "unaffiliated".END
(DIR) Post #A3W7CSoq3ZD6Gr4k0O by Bluifox@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:50:43Z
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@timr @jedi757 @StevenDouglas The problem is a lot of people like a bare knuckle fighter I like to get into the pit and get bloodied and scratched and you’re not going to attract people with the same white bread soft spoken afraid to offend anyone except of course the very people they want voting for them. That’s a reality.
(DIR) Post #A3W7VcWUCYQ1rxcrKq by Crgmllr13@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:54:11Z
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@StevenDouglas I like the sound of American Independence Party.
(DIR) Post #A3W7gtokF1MEh0XoLA by alexcrouch@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:56:13Z
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@timr I'm a registered Independent, but I'm a total Trump supporter.Since you say Trump is not forming his own third party, I have absolutely no interest in any third party whatsoever.I'll vote for Trump's chosen candidates in the general elections and no one else, no matter what party they belong to.I should think a "Patriot Party" (or whatever it would eventually be called) without Trump actually in it would be a hard sell, in any case.@StevenDouglas
(DIR) Post #A3W7kE7fCgtOXKypQe by Ehr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:56:50Z
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@StevenDouglas 👍
(DIR) Post #A3W81aksJHb9eXbKvw by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T03:59:57Z
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@timr IF Trump did it (and he is the only one who could, which is my main point), it would mean that he ran the numbers himself. He would not be guess and by-gollying like you and I. He would not be going in blindly. He would KNOW before he made a single move.So I'm not worried about it.I am addressing it only because so many others are, and ONLY to shut down the idea that splintering off ("Hey guysth, lesth go form our OWN party!") is somehow sane thinking.
(DIR) Post #A3W8aLAYFY0RRwBG0O by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:06:14Z
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@alexcrouch @timr Hear hear, that describes me as well.I am far from what you would call a Third Party Zealot.IF Trump doesn't do it, it's not happening. IF he does, it's not now, and it's not ad hoc or haphazard.And I don't rule it out.
(DIR) Post #A3W8pCn1gd1ZnyGULI by belsg@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:08:56Z
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@StevenDouglas a new Party because the Democrats are a disease and a virus and the Republicans are a bunch of useless cowards , corrupt China Paid punks just like Ben Sasse, Mitch McConnel, Mitt Romney, etc, etc
(DIR) Post #A3W8pazbhVLerwKsHg by alexcrouch@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:09:00Z
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@StevenDouglas I don't know enough to rule it in or out!Politics is not my area of expertise at all.I'll wait to hear from Trump himself what he needs us to do before I do anything.I thought maybe he'd do it to beat Steve Bannon (and his billionaire buddy from Hong Kong) to the punch, but I hope it doesn't come to that. @timr
(DIR) Post #A3W9D9STixwuQH4Xz6 by DTPrez@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:13:16Z
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@StevenDouglas I like the logic.
(DIR) Post #A3W9PjKeAl9B9rPJ4K by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:15:31Z
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Oh, and make it a Lion. Naturally.
(DIR) Post #A3W9R3mTd68Crv3gpc by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:15:46Z
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@StevenDouglas Fair points
(DIR) Post #A3W9yqighGueCqOkHg by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:21:52Z
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@RaymondR No matter what it can't be based on our opinions about what other people should think (about our opinions). IF Trump did it the marketing research would be done as well, so that it appeals to and resonates with the widest demographic base possible.
(DIR) Post #A3WARSlsodY4KTXLYe by Bubbesbabies@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:27:03Z
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@StevenDouglas https://us-patriotparty.com/digital-warriors/
(DIR) Post #A3WBF4LftQI13wvqlM by haithabu@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:36:00Z
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@StevenDouglas Great thread!
(DIR) Post #A3WBFPEeEk99qEo2E4 by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:36:03Z
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@BanjoGalaxy1 @belsg That's like citing political issues or things Trump said in Tweets or rallies while campaigning as reasons that he "lost". HE WON IN AN EPIC LANDSLIDE.The problem lies not in the base, or in a lack of inspiration. The problem lies in THE LEADERSHIP. Those in key positions at the top, public and private. Everywhere.
(DIR) Post #A3WC7TN34qZAIyW4h6 by BanjoGalaxy1@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:45:51Z
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@StevenDouglas @belsg leaders can be deposed. Especially by a primary opponent endorsed by, say, Trump?The leftists took over the Dems, with their old guard hanging on by a thread. It's possible.
(DIR) Post #A3WD8dsfaQg993Qceu by conduit118@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T04:57:16Z
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@StevenDouglas Naturally!
(DIR) Post #A3WDi39ZcDQlf7DcFU by Clint2A@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T05:03:40Z
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@StevenDouglas I liked the thought of a patriot party, but I don't feel it would get anywhere. The populace are just too lazy to go along, and would just take the easy choice... R or D.
(DIR) Post #A3WEbk17wzO2Wqp7yq by MissionControl@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T05:13:44Z
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@StevenDouglas Reasonable.
(DIR) Post #A3WFyXsPM4cjURBPNo by Tommyetw@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T05:29:03Z
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@StevenDouglas I think that on the issue of minorities, what actually was the case was they were given a mirror to let them see who they really are: conservatives. And that they had a voice in the Republican (Trump, more like) party. There are many more of us out there, but the propaganda of the left casting all conservatives as white racists has worked, sadly. I’ve always been conservative Asian American, so this deception of minorities makes my blood boil.
(DIR) Post #A3WJkFm2GPEN6jdvAO by charlotte1958@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T06:11:17Z
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@StevenDouglas @alexcrouch @timr I think having a Patriots party, in opposition to the Globalists, would have the advantage of drawing the globalists out by contrast!! They would be out in the open, instead of hiding behind “conservative” or “Republican” labels!!! The resulting dichotomy of Patriots vs globalists would at reflect reality much more than what we have now!! Although, I admit, no one is hiding any more because Trump pulled their masks off!!
(DIR) Post #A3WKSFb2HhMVIbTelM by timr@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T06:19:14Z
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@charlotte1958 Except that the Democrats would still exist - and take over everything, as they are both predators and scavengers, as well as parasites.While we are thinking in terms of ideals@StevenDouglas @alexcrouch
(DIR) Post #A3WgzeZEf6IdIDy4xs by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T10:31:48Z
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@KSISK Can't disagree with a thing you wrote.
(DIR) Post #A3WiNtqTbsBVa69qgi by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T10:47:23Z
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@nzpete54 He makes some very good points.
(DIR) Post #A3WmBWJdfNKUwm9PF2 by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T11:29:58Z
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@StevenDouglas I still think third party is a mistake, for the same reasons you know. We should run our candidates in both existing parties.
(DIR) Post #A3WmHTNHVyUrYvh1eK by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T11:31:02Z
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@StevenDouglas I still think third party is a mistake, for the same reasons you know. We should run our candidates on the ballots without permission from the existing parties. Also, we should run other candidates into the parties themselves. All-ways attack.
(DIR) Post #A3WseUD9AbVuXgJFYW by Bayoucastine@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T12:42:26Z
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@StevenDouglas @BanjoGalaxy1 @belsg The 'best' way to develop a firm leadership for the GOP:The "Trickle Down" theory will not work on this problem.ALL of us need to build firmly grounded leadership into the lowest level of public office. Extend this effort upward through all levels of Public Office, from Dog Catcher to State Governors, US Reps and Senators.Root out all limp wrists.It will take a bit of time; perhaps less than expected - if, if we all do our best. Run for an office!
(DIR) Post #A3X3hM5AwnJZhF9SKm by DLMarch54@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T14:46:13Z
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@timr third party forth party, it makes no difference. They just stole an election in plain sight and got away with it. Now that they know that they can, they will do forever.
(DIR) Post #A3X7QomFPKHraLfTkW by RedbudLady@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T15:28:02Z
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@timr First start with replacing RNC chair. Trump campaign manager would be a
(DIR) Post #A3X9ZKAklS6BBHJXyS by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T15:51:59Z
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@sworks22 @SupineLupita @timr I'm fully aware of it.
(DIR) Post #A3XASRvhcmyXAOYn3I by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T16:01:57Z
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@Phoenogon @MacBalzac I love the word Patriot. It has deep meaning for me and since I am extremely patriotic I consider myself one. But it's like the word "good". Every regime loving communist in China is, by definition, patriotic to that regime, and therefore a patriot. See? Arguable. Anyone can take it.Leftists consider themselves patriotic - patriots to leftism, no redefinition needed. American Independence, however, is something they WOULD NEVER TOUCH.They don't agree with it.
(DIR) Post #A3XKv6VLMR80eoX6zA by Wow@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T17:59:10Z
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@StevenDouglas change the party from WITHIN (the left did it to the dems in the US, they did it with the conservative and socialist party in Germany as well)
(DIR) Post #A3XSIXZtZHNYxnmi4e by ManuelCerdan1@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T19:21:51Z
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@timr @sworks22 @StevenDouglasWhy isn't Trump panicked? @timr, does Trump seem "rattled" to you in any way? Why is that? 🤔If anyone should be panicked it should be him. Wasn't he just playing golf? Golf? I mean that's some heavy zen given the wall of supposed pain/litigation coming his way. I can't shake my gut on this....
(DIR) Post #A3XVlIle0nJjI2gbTM by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-23T20:00:40Z
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@StevenDouglas I prefer to think of them as at the bottom.
(DIR) Post #A3Yc8KprHbjVFNz2bQ by StevenDouglas@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-24T08:46:40Z
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@ManuelCerdan1 @sworks22 @timr Don't worry about any of that. Trump is not alone, and never was.
(DIR) Post #A3YkmtbaEDz2Ig9sTA by ManuelCerdan1@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-24T10:23:45Z
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@StevenDouglas @sworks22 @timrMy point exactly. He isn't alone and has this under control. Biden is demolishing his support, I doubt he will have any real support when the hammer drops on his ass.
(DIR) Post #A3YvaOtXgLGp4gnpr6 by stephanieanne@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-24T12:24:45Z
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@PHK2021 Regurgitating bho tripe about green clean jobs. Businesses that ALL went belly up after being pumped full of taxpayer dollars. Corruption.
(DIR) Post #A3Yxxc6Yvvmyc65bnM by Phoenogon@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-24T12:51:22Z
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@StevenDouglas @MacBalzac Right. As the saying goes - one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.I can’t speak for leftists on how they define patriotic for themselves. Nor can I control if and how they choose to use the word.My point is that the MSM and democrats have tried to make it a dirty word for *us* to use, an expletive to them like “Trump supporter” is an expletive. They are trying to cancel *our* use of it, us as patriots, and we can’t let them silence or define us.
(DIR) Post #A3a9aUbY2vIJIdHgOW by Kelly62317572@social.quodverum.com
2021-01-25T02:36:23Z
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@StevenDouglas The GOP & Dems United along time ago