Post A3SZSsZSEHNetbiNbU by ademalsasa@floss.social
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 (DIR) Post #A3SZSqockuKJS4nSyG by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T11:48:24Z
       
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       What is your choice after switching from #WhatsApp?Please help me share.#FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZSrGz3T0ms247Au by skyr@chaos.social
       2021-01-21T08:23:38Z
       
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       @ademalsasa 😎
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZSrfnZCrS6zfvqy by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T08:37:18Z
       
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       @skyr same here, I never used #WhatsApp too. I use #Telegram, friend. What about you?#FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZSs6NyM81RS7AIK by caos@metalhead.club
       2021-01-21T08:48:34Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @skyr never used Whatsapp too, I'm using #xmpp (#Conversations, #Gajim), #Matrix (#Fluffy, #Element) + #Wire + #Deltachat@dabnotu
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZSsZSEHNetbiNbU by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T08:53:00Z
       
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       @caos you are second or third person to mention #Wire here, caos. Thanks for the addition of #DeltaChat it is very interesting. @skyr @dabnotu #FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZSsycihVu9fUTpo by caos@metalhead.club
       2021-01-21T09:05:02Z
       
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       @ademalsasa We're using #Wire for chats und videocall within our family. It's free for private use (pro/business-Version available) and clients available for all platforms/os (Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, Browser): https://wire.com/en/download/@skyr @dabnotu
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SZStKFQIoLEjbkXY by smartbrain@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-21T09:21:06Z
       
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       @caos @ademalsasa @skyr @dabnotu Last I checked privacy international were also using Wire internally. Wonder if they still do.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SaaE6keZPDfnMAr2 by letterus@kirche.social
       2021-01-20T16:42:05Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Using Matrix with Element, but @threemaapp by far has the best UX of the trustworthy solutions. (I don't consider Telegram trustworthy at all).
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SaaEZ6x85h5kcp3g by hyde@lazybear.social
       2021-01-21T06:30:42Z
       
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       @letterusSession (getsession.org) and silence.im for smsOr best gpg encrypted emails when really need a confidential thing to share or meet the people IRL @ademalsasa @threemaapp
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ScU6BjNxftHVtLDk by Lyrilith@mastodon.art
       2021-01-21T08:07:02Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I have never had WhatsApp. I use Signal, Telegram and Threema, but most friends use Telegram and very few Signal. Threema is kinda dead here. :(
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SgSGwDyDyVboRJsu by nipos@social.avareborn.de
       2021-01-21T06:37:10Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Matrix,Jabber and Session.They're all decentralized what is important for me.Also trying out Status.im currently.I'm very sad to see how many people here still believe Signal is good.It isn't 😢
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SgSHKgVHXapfsr0i by faizalr@mastodon.social
       2021-01-21T07:35:15Z
       
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       @nipos @ademalsasa spread the word about decentralize.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Sl53eHiHmfVFnZ2m by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T15:57:08Z
       
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       As usual, thanks @redstarfish for helping he sharing about messengers. #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Matrix #XMPP
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Sl54EnWWzVKUsixM by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-21T05:38:57Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I chose telegram mainly because people who leave WhatsApp, Telegram would be something they like as it's very feature rich.I don't want to push them towards something like Signal, which they wouldn't like and go back to WhatsApp few days later.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SlAD2mD5v45ai80W by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T05:40:05Z
       
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       @redstarfish nice opinion and surprisingly very similar to mine. You're right, I also consider such strategy! I hope you keep sharing like this with me, Starfish. Thanks!#Telegram #FreeSoftware
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SooUYko2HhrKZG40 by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
       2021-01-21T13:40:30Z
       
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       @smartbrainI could swear I heard wire was purchased by an american hedge fund:(@caos @ademalsasa @skyr @dabnotu
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SowZLct4T91hHLeq by veer66@mstdn.io
       2021-01-20T12:20:16Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Here people don't know what Whatsapp is.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SoweRTwj7kpJ3aym by blue@quietplace.xyz
       2021-01-20T12:15:25.588Z
       
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       @ademalsasa@floss.social I root for xmpp, use it myself and try to use with as many people as I can
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SqkMzJDPUT7s9PH6 by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T06:38:09Z
       
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       @nipos thanks, that is valuable to me. What do you think about GNU #Jami, Niklas?https://jami.net#FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SrTbDn8rAAImUZ8q by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T12:54:11Z
       
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       @veer66 what a nice environment you have there.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SrTbe1ZK99c8lW1w by veer66@mstdn.io
       2021-01-20T12:58:03Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Perhaps LINE is worse than Whatsapp. :blob_cry:
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Srs5UcFGad8Y2R7I by wauz@muenchen.social
       2021-01-20T12:54:17Z
       
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       @ademalsasaSession
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Srur6oBHkHOWDqt6 by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T12:57:12Z
       
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       @wauz one hello, Friend. One more Session user I found after @x. Thanks for sharing!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Ss3BDNJNb24JGNlI by stunder@mastodon.sdf.org
       2021-01-20T20:57:47Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Session
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SsZpuxVx5JZbDlhI by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T12:56:03Z
       
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       @kaidan amazing, KDE Kaidan reshared my poll about messengers. Thank you!#Kaidan #XMPP #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #KDE
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SsZqRZYhAlCkToX2 by kaidan@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-20T12:57:07Z
       
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       @ademalsasa But next time, please add an Option for #XMPP :D (lnj)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SskzusgCCFlkVTeK by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-20T12:57:54Z
       
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       @kaidan thanks, I will try it, my friend Kaidan. PS: I am a KDE user.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3StO5apVYSKfVlgvo by Muto@social.tchncs.de
       2021-01-20T12:57:07Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I switched already 7 years ago 🙂, never missed it
       
 (DIR) Post #A3StO61ltO0U14NCvQ by jcast@mastodon.social
       2021-01-20T13:00:07Z
       
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       @Muto @ademalsasa I'm using Signal for family and acquaintances. Matrix is great for work groupsWill push everyone GNU Jami once the group chat feature is implemented (almost)@Jami
       
 (DIR) Post #A3SxPIdCuu4VDEiGH2 by stux@mstdn.social
       2021-01-20T14:00:02Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Crap..I meant Element! :matrix: for the win! :
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T058dkebtKIQ2sca by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2021-01-20T14:19:44Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Didn't really use Whatsapp that much in the first place! Occasionally use XMPP with Gajim.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T7ng0GffheBtlIJ6 by abslimit@mstdn.netwhood.online
       2021-01-20T15:52:37Z
       
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       @ademalsasa XMPP
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T8Z9yH4LNikFTGvg by dkl@chaos.social
       2021-01-21T13:06:41Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Threema
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T8ZAKFkcxjqPkpBg by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2021-01-21T17:21:49Z
       
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       @dkl Question, how is Threema better or worse than Signal? Does it not require a phone number? @ademalsasa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3T8iqDbMe9SNXFz7Y by nipos@social.avareborn.de
       2021-01-21T17:23:33Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I like the idea of Jami but it didn't work reliable enough when I tested it a few months ago.If I have more then one device connected to my ID,messages randomly arrive only at one of them or not at all.Also the call feature didn't work anymore after the second device was added to the ID.But if you use it with only one device,it's pretty good.Call quality was very good and the connection was stable,without needing any centralized server between my contact and me 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #A3TB8sUDkoWyqmZbSy by dsv@social.linux.pizza
       2021-01-20T16:06:25Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I've never used whatsapp, but my preferred way of chat with people is xmpp. at the same time people leaving WA im leaving signal and will only use XMPP and irc for now
       
 (DIR) Post #A3U4X5LNS0NNWB4f6O by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
       2021-01-22T04:11:19Z
       
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       @nipos @ademalsasa I had a similar experience, it was unreliable.  Hopefully they get things worked out in the future I found it very straight forward and well designed.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3UExfYaQuWwtxZGIi by dkl@chaos.social
       2021-01-22T06:08:12Z
       
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       @calculsoberic @ademalsasa It does not. And it has a function to generate an encrypted Backup, that can be transfered to other devicrs.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3UEzE4Tax54EfE5Kq by dkl@chaos.social
       2021-01-22T06:08:31Z
       
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       @calculsoberic @ademalsasa It does not. And it has a function to generate an encrypted Backup, that can be transfered to other devices.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3VF6EGfSN2E1xEBoO by tpheine@mstdn.io
       2021-01-20T12:40:38Z
       
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       @ademalsasaAlthough I never used WhatsApp, I prefer Threema, Signal, Conversations.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WLI5yZIXt8WJCpeq by aspie4K@aspiechattr.me
       2021-01-22T16:51:16Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Signal primarily, but I also use Telegram aware it is less secure but more convenient. If I need something to be as private and secure as possible I use Signal no question. Telegram is mostly good as social media (groups, channels, etc) rather than for privacy.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WLI6XJDNg4G3SZo8 by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-23T06:28:34Z
       
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       @aspie4K @ademalsasa So... matrix?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WN004chi8MuUXNgW by dabnotu@mastodon.art
       2021-01-21T08:28:10Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Wire!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WN00Y2wJfaNkIsXw by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T08:46:20Z
       
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       @dabnotu you are the first person to suggest #Wire here. Thanks. - https://wire.com/en- https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:High_Priority_Projects#FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WN0117CEvDptu5r6 by Jordi_Tell@mastodont.cat
       2021-01-22T15:07:49Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @dabnotu Wire, too!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WN01T7W7K7El0SVU by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-23T06:21:47Z
       
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       @Jordi_Tell thank you for mentioning #Wire! It is rarely mentioned, but exist in this poll. What's your sweet & nice experience with Wire, my friend?https://wire.com@dabnotu
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WN01vTog0aeiH6i8 by error@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-23T06:47:43.484438Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @Jordi_Tell @dabnotu I feel it is important to note that Wire was delisted from privacytools.io due to circumstances that may be troubling to some users.https://forum.privacytools.io/t/delisting-wire-from-privacytools-io/2087/27
       
 (DIR) Post #A3WcTkktigBXOxxLns by adidal@cdstm.ch
       2021-01-23T09:41:13Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Threema. Not free tho but its only 4CHF
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Wcgp0rCaEsN1eX8S by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-23T09:43:33Z
       
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       @adidal hi, thanks for participating. I heard now #Threema is changed into #FreeSoftware under GNU AGPL license. Discussion: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2020-12/msg00035.html#FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3X4NQ50TYo8Fx899U by aspie4K@aspiechattr.me
       2021-01-23T14:53:47Z
       
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       @Zergling_man Matrix has far far fewer users than Telegram, many Telegram channels have tens or hundreds of thousands of users, a Matrix room sometimes has 100 active people if you're lucky unless it's a bridge to Telegram or IRC or something anyway - in which case why use Matrix?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y16eYtH0ybXnNjWK by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T01:51:53Z
       
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       @aspie4K Because arguing in favour of a platform based on its popularity is obviously stupid. Go back to whatsapp.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y1AeLg0XlQ2d6gM4 by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T01:52:37Z
       
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       @aspie4K Like I don't get why you would even think that makes any sense at all. Of course a platform isn't popular if people don't use it because it's not popular.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y7gHHLuoipU2Y5SK by aspie4K@aspiechattr.me
       2021-01-24T03:05:00Z
       
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       @Zergling_man if I’m specifically using the platform to join large groups of Linux users, say, then I’ll go to where those large groups are. Perhaps at some point they’ll all be on Matrix. But currently far more are on Telegram. In any case, large public groups are inherently not private and neither one is owned by Facebook so Telegram is good for that use case.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y7wGGZRpvoyanxK4 by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T03:08:27Z
       
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       @aspie4K That's why matrix has bridges as a native concept.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y94xopVKdaK5Xhjc by aspie4K@aspiechattr.me
       2021-01-24T03:21:12Z
       
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       @Zergling_man or I could just cut out the middleman? Plus most of my use is on mobile and Telegram has a far superior mobile UX.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y9KKrc6e7W8hAssq by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T03:24:00Z
       
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       @aspie4K I admit I haven't looked into matrix on mobile, but there's probably a client out there that does it well. I'm guessing element isn't it.Your argument continues to make no sense: Other people should cut out the middleman by joining you on matrix. Don't lower yourself to their level, encourage them to step up to yours.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Y9dAbMU77poWYOi8 by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T03:27:25Z
       
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       @aspie4K I'm going to rub this in a bit further: Are you familiar with the "if your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?" thing that parents tend to pull? This is exactly what they were talking about. Just because it's popular doesn't make it right.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3YCxyi6Bv7esSJpLs by aspie4K@aspiechattr.me
       2021-01-24T04:04:46Z
       
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       @Zergling_man by your own logic, if I started using Matrix it'd be because you pressed me into doing so lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3YDNh5yJ1LTm5kOrg by Zergling_man@mastodon.linuxbox.ninja
       2021-01-24T04:09:26Z
       
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       @aspie4K lol
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjZruRhNgsCNJ1k by error@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-21T08:11:58.371643Z
       
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       @Lyrilith @ademalsasa I wouldn't have a problem with Telegram if their bug bounty had no restrictions, their encryption was open source and not proprietary, and they provided secret chats by default.Signal has its positive points mainly its easy of use and ability to be used with VOIP numbers but I personally prefer Briar as it doesn't require a mobile numeber and supports connections through Bluetooth in the event it is needed or over Tor for censorship circumvention or sensitive materials.https://briarproject.org/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjaVG5OrAqEmjMO by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T08:13:27Z
       
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       @error thanks, you are the first person to suggest #Briar here. Please keep sharing.@Lyrilith #FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjauQZozQ6IYpai by error@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-21T08:14:30.271859Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @Lyrilith No problem, I have been following your account for a while and am mostly a lurker but hoping to venture out in the future when it is beneficial XD
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjbG3HQHrBMg6IS by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-21T08:16:42Z
       
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       @error wow, thank you very much for caring. I don't hear about #Briar so often so seeing you mentioning it attracts my curiosity, Friend.@Lyrilith
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjbbK0LIiFKd5Rw by error@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-21T08:21:47.064265Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @Lyrilith It is a mobile continuation of the Ricochet messenger project where a Tor hidden service is established to allow two or more parties to communicate with the most anonymity within the Tor network (also allows for Tor bridges to circumvent initial blocks by ISPs although I am not sure if this allows for bypasses through DNS blocks). So far the only caveat I've noticed is it is onyl supported by Android devices, while this can be bypassed by utilizing any numeber of Android virtual machines I understand there is a segment of users who have the means and insist on using apple products for mobile applications.https://ricochet.im/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3Zvjc0UUlQxVOPBgG by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
       2021-01-24T23:59:41Z
       
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       @error @ademalsasa @Lyrilith Another big issue with Briar is a lack of offline messages unless I missed some recent news about that.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ZvjcUcgjXL0qVFeC by error@spinster.xyz
       2021-01-25T00:01:05.442336Z
       
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       @STP_KITT @ademalsasa @Lyrilith You can make offline adjacent messages while your device has no connection that will send as soon as a new connection is made, as well as allowing for messages over bluetooth.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3a1SXklekR97CIMN6 by KitKat@masthead.social
       2021-01-21T13:45:12Z
       
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       @caos @ademalsasa @skyr @dabnotu benefits compared to Element?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3a1SYKDWwnEt8sfcu by caos@metalhead.club
       2021-01-24T20:07:16Z
       
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       Here you can find an overview (comparison of messengers): https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog/105612467206369454@KitKat @ademalsasa @skyr @dabnotu @smartbrain @lps
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dBuZElJasgqDCqFU by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-26T13:46:35Z
       
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       Deciding factor for me was 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘮𝘺 𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙨 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘯𝘰 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨. I also setup a Matrix and XMPP server for the family but adoption is very little.@ademalsasa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dCWMyrKgvLpfnEtE by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-26T13:53:24Z
       
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       @murtezayesil very similar to my deciding factor too, my friend! Glad to find someone with same thought. For that reason I chose #Telegram. Thanks for sharing this with me & everyone.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dEic9Cy5GIFsbHG4 by westofer@mstdn.social
       2021-01-26T14:18:03Z
       
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       @ademalsasa still a whatsapp cuck
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dILo8Ee0SYa1We9Y by unabomber@social.here.blue
       2021-01-26T14:58:45.112819Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I like Signal because normies know about it, and it scales like WhatsApp thanks to the same author being involved.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReB9ufTugnU94Wu by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
       2021-01-24T21:35:04Z
       
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       @ademalsasa I can't switch from WhatsApp since I never used it, because I'm one of the few who read the EULA when WhatsApp was brand new. I use #XMPP since I got my first Android in 2011 & never looked back. To reach iOS users though I still do a mix of SMS, Telegram & E-Mail via DeltaChat until XMPP is fully useable for iOS users.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReBbD1zkQA8us4m by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-25T01:48:05Z
       
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       @STP_KITT same here I also never used #WhatsApp I am very lucky for that. Thanks for sharing with me, Kit. - #XMPP https://xmpp.org- #Telegram https://telegram.org- #DeltaChat https://delta.chat#FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Messengers
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReC3ZKYQta6BWHQ by gamliel@linuxrocks.online
       2021-01-25T16:25:37Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @STP_KITT I never used #WhatsApp, too. Also, I never used #Skype and #Viber.To use #XMPP (aka #Jabber), you do not need the same-name site. You just need a #messenger (examples of XMPP-only messengers: #Gajim, #Psi; an example of multi-protocol messenger: #Pidgin) and some XMPP #provider (there are a lot of them around; you can even setup your own XMPP #server).
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReCVZeQpmyxHsvo by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
       2021-01-26T02:26:21Z
       
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       @gamliel @ademalsasa Yes, that's one of the advantages. Btw the old term Jabber is discouraged to use still, the XSF just wants it to be called XMPP. Pidgin is also very much behind XMPP developments so for PC operarting systems better use Gajim or maybe Dino.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReCqUOfZ41p4aX2 by gamliel@linuxrocks.online
       2021-01-26T02:56:04Z
       
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       @STP_KITT @ademalsasa > the old term Jabber is discouraged to use stillI would just name it #XMPP, but the #Jabber word seems more memorable for native English speakers, is not it?> better use GajimIt does not seem very rational to have special #messenger for each #communication protocol I use. #Pidgin supports not only XMPP, but also #IRC and many other communication protocols. It is almost universal, but for #text only, unfortunately not for VoIP.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReDJYeaohTyfnqC by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
       2021-01-26T11:41:31Z
       
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       @gamliel @ademalsasa I used Pidgin in the 2000s & it was great. But development in terms of XMPP really fell behind when it accelerated in the 2010s. If it works for you, fine, but expect compatibility problems especially in terms of OMEMO and a lack of important features. Btw Gajim for example allows bridging to IRC so can join IRC chats.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dReDkV2QMqpXHJpo by melmc@melmc.nohost.me
       2021-01-26T16:42:43.849909Z
       
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       @STP_KITT @gamliel @ademalsasa I found an OMEMO plugin for Pidgin but could not get it to work. I went to Gajim to get functional OMEMO.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3dRyDl4iHc8eP5Ht2 by joacim@mastodon.fidonet.io
       2021-01-26T16:46:31Z
       
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       @ademalsasa @selea I never used WhatsApp.  Always on iMessage.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3e7e0t9388R1DuDbc by cosmic@weirder.earth
       2021-01-26T17:57:13Z
       
       1 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa I’ve been giving element a try and I really like it so far. I forgot who posted this before but this is what made me decide to try it out - I used to be a big telegram user as well but i don’t know anyone using it rn sooo I’d rather get into something decentralized if I’m going to be trying to pull ppl over to a new app anyway
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ea8XUdBjMfXnmemG by Kzad_Bhat@chaos.social
       2021-01-26T18:01:48Z
       
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       @ademalsasa never had to swtich. Threema was the one and only ❤️.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3eex8ucjpFztTKK2a by i3x@mstdn.social
       2021-01-27T06:46:42Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa no email or phone number needed...https://getsession.org/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3f8RI1OKfHnVHDgJs by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T12:09:16Z
       
       1 likes, 4 repeats
       
       What is your choice after switching from #WhatsApp?For improving @ademalsasa 's poll
       
 (DIR) Post #A3f8kAAjjvxGf4afK4 by Ben@hafkehafke.org
       2021-01-27T12:20:32.845589Z
       
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       @arilogue @ademalsasa I voted Matrix because its just so hard to get people to move to p2p and the user experience is just not there. Server-based model is much better, chats get stored there, multiple clients are easy, discovery is easier, recovery from lost/stolen device is easier, etc.For "normie" friends that just know whatsapp i send them a message that i am on signal and block them.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3f9N8TjyChWhe3xMu by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T12:26:04Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Ben @ademalsasa Yes, I agree with you. P2P is difficult to use, not practical and not easily adaptable for most people.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3f9N8v2KiXG4Ipkum by Ben@hafkehafke.org
       2021-01-27T12:27:34.690932Z
       
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       @arilogue @ademalsasa For some people even making an account on a matrix server is hard enough lol. I have set up my own so my friends don't even have to use email.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fBcvYLzjAf9lsWLA by mgrondin@youdabomb.social
       2021-01-27T12:52:50.258761Z
       
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       @arilogue I voted Movim but really the vote is for XMPP. Movim is not your only choice there. @ademalsasa
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fBrNxr9txTKKhXUG by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-27T12:55:00Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Ben this is true, unfortunately. @arilogue
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fBx4tSybC1uwMW9Y by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-27T12:56:06Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Ben I agree with this, Ben. I wish I could phrase this problem like you phrase it perfectly. Thanks, I learned a lot. @arilogue
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fNyoSsEEXkzdW8rw by PublicNuisance@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T15:11:13Z
       
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       @arilogue I had never actually used Whatsapp but the whole debacle it created is why I had ever heard of Element and Matrix in the first place and started using them.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fTYQQzY9BGezRCt6 by qoheniac@layer8.space
       2021-01-27T12:59:51Z
       
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       @arilogue @ademalsasa I uae Matrix and XMPP, but mainly XMPP so I clicked Movim (although I don't know what that is).
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fTYQrvvyjQ0Y2isi by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-27T13:15:07Z
       
       2 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @qoheniac @arilogue apparently, Movim is a very amazing XMPP messaging. It is like WhatsApp + Facebook + WordPress in one place accessible via web, GNU/Linux, Windows, MacOS, as well as Android and iOS. PS: as a Telegram user, in my first day on Movim I can say it is closer to Telegram in features compared to other #Xmpp things.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fbOrc6RV1DgzaQpE by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T17:41:38Z
       
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       @PublicNuisance I wish my story was like yours. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little jealous : )))
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fes3jAmWFzWXVTBA by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-27T12:12:12Z
       
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       @arilogue thank you very much! I am the first person here. I chose Other, as mine is #Telegram. Thank you very much for your care and also improvement to my poll!PS: just few clicks before you posted, I joined #Movim as my first experience with #XMPP thanks to friends at my poll.#FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Messengers
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fes49lBfWYqzwhcW by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T12:20:12Z
       
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       @ademalsasa You're wellcome but thank you for starting this poll. But i think Telegram and Signal is not secure and private. I don't think I'm going to use them. I'm stuck between 3 apps which are Movim, Element and Delta Chat. I couldn't decided which one to use yet : )
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fes4aLaon8BSNw3s by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-27T18:20:14.595085+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue արի did you try xmpp?if you register at our diaspora pod spyurk.am - you'll automatically have xmpp/jabber account as well.i also know other reliable and open xmpp server run by my friend, but i don't want to expose it to many people, so contact me, probably as inky@թութ.հայ so i can tell you.also, when you have jabber - add me as norayr at spyurk.also, if you can read armenian, you may want to have an account on our mastodon instance թութ.հայ
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fiQ35PyJ6dF9oJv6 by PublicNuisance@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T19:00:16Z
       
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       I try not to judge too much because we all used poor options at one point or another. I used Windows for 20 years, Steam for almost as long and still play closed source games so i'm no saint. All we can hope is people make moves in a positive direction little by little. Late is better than never.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fjgh3ZEOrLnQRgzg by PublicNuisance@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T19:14:25Z
       
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       @arilogue I try not to judge too much because we all used poor options at one point or another. I used Windows for 20 years, Steam for almost as long and still play closed source games so i'm no saint. All we can hope is people make moves in a positive direction little by little. Late is better than never.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fljvW08AW1PqPmRU by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T19:37:29Z
       
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       @PublicNuisance Nowadays I'm quitting Windows and Mac completely. I won't use them anymore and I'll only use Steam under Linux : )
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fq2nHZMcJbCWut6m by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
       2021-01-27T16:54:54Z
       
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       @melmc @ademalsasa @gamliel Exactly! If you're interested in the status of client's OMEMO capabilities check out 6 possibly bookmark https://omemo.top/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fq2njvfB04cUBXJQ by melmc@melmc.nohost.me
       2021-01-27T20:25:40.729840Z
       
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       @STP_KITT @ademalsasa @gamliel I now have OMEMO working with Psi too.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fr0kVwmhONzVEM4G by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T19:29:43Z
       
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       @tanakian@ծմակուտ.հայ Then I found թութ.հայ instance. I could see their profiles of whoever interested me, but I couldn't follow them. I think your moderation team disabled it.Hayeren'e grnamgor gartal payts shad aghvor che Hayeren'es. Aynbes Hayasdantsi Hayeren'e hasgnalna tjvar e indzi hamar. Neroghutyun asor hamar.I don't want to delete and re-open my account in another instance but I want to communicate and follow some of them. Is it possible?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3fr0kyJ5G4rPSV0Gu by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-27T20:36:18.842072+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue արի man, this is interesting, we don't have any moderation team, i am an admin, and the only limitation i know is that we have closed registrations, because i am afraid of spam.you should be able to follow people from our instance. can you follow my old accounts - norayr and inky on թութ?on jabber, if you don't like it - did you try matrix?in order to simplify things - there is a sep.am application on play store, which automatically connects to sep.am server so you don't need to choose an instance, and it is a bit easier.on jabber, well, today's jabber works with images, audio/video calls, and voice messages.i use blabber client, and spyurk server supports voice calls, and image uploads.but yes, jabber is my favourite, i consider it is more minimalistic, and modernistic, and today's postmodern society is more inclined to matrix.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ftXfrHJeFz112GXY by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T20:51:51Z
       
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       @tanakian@ծմակուտ.հայ As you can see I'm getting this error. I couldn't understand why is that 😕 I didn't try Matrix. I will try again Jabber and the Matrix when I get a chance in coming days.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ftXgIveqNIOlyLdg by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-27T21:04:39.294098+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue արի oh, you don't need to enter թութ page in order to follow someone. it never occured to me it is possible.just on your instance (fosstodon) search for users from our instance. for example put in the search box (above the place you're writing the toot) the username like this: @user@instance.com - in our case that would be @inky@ and here you better put xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aq - this is so called punicode representation of the unicode domain. so it would be @inky@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aq in the search box. then when you find the user, just press the follow button there, on your site. so you need to find the user from fosstodon and follow the user without getting out of your instance.on jabber - well, privacy and convenience aren't friends. you need to make choices: server, the client application, then user account, then you need to add people to contact list - everything done by let's say 'whatsapp' without you but by getting their hands on your data.so my advice when you search for the jabber server - not all jabber servers support the features i was telling you about - image upload, audio/video voice calls etc.ok, for now just try blabber.im application, they also offer free jabber accounts. not sure that their accounts will be always free - may be they'll start to ask for money like 'conversations' does after some months. i don't know. i run my own server, so i don't know what others do. but i know that conversations and blabber both support all the modern required feautures you may want.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ftg1VYhsfaTerEbQ by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-27T21:06:11.323843+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue արի my other account for photography is @inky@ then xn--49ap3c.xn--y9a3aqby searching local stream on https://կէտ.հայ/ you may find other users you'd like to follow.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3gB0QAsPDP9zWUo4G by arilogue@fosstodon.org
       2021-01-27T21:40:24Z
       
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       @tanakian@ծմակուտ.հայ I followed you but I couldn't follow @radioruzik@թութ.հայ. He doesn't coming to search results.(I tried like this too: @radioruzik@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aq)And the problem with Jabber is (and with the other messengers), I need a messenger that I can convince people around me to move that. It's okay for me to adapt, I'll make it somehow. But the people around me are a little stubborn and hard to adapt to new things : )
       
 (DIR) Post #A3gB0QdagSNDQZvjpA by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-28T00:20:20.156723+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue Արի try like this: @radioruzik@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aq also if you're interested, there is electronic music oriented stream @lselik@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aqon messengers - i lost my hope of convincing people around me. moreover, because i left facebook in 2011, i lost all my connections. because i got rid of phone - i lost some others.some of real connections were sharing my values - so they put efforts in to adapting to jabber and diaspora. that was the core of first users of our pod.on the other hand - pretty amazing community gathered around spyurk.am and թութ, so i got new connections with people who have close values.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3gB7RgTBw96hTcgCm by tanakian@xn--y9azesw6bu.xn--y9a3aq
       2021-01-28T00:21:36.758815+00:00
       
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       @Arilogue Արի these are my photos from your city: https://norayr.am/weblog/places/%D5%BA%D6%85%D5%AC%D5%AB%D5%BD/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ld00FiYGVy6R9IAa by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-30T04:41:10Z
       
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       Element Made Easy | Setup Security Phrase and KeyPlease help me share. https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/01/element-made-easy-setup-security-phrase-and-key.htmlThanks: @stereo | Tags: #Tutorial #Element #Matrix #Messengers #FreeSoftware #UbuntuBuzz
       
 (DIR) Post #A3nJDZSbLrQoINHsKe by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-31T10:53:32Z
       
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       Where to Donate to #FreeSoftware? (1)Please help me share.❤️ Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/donate❤️  The GNU Project https://donate.fsf.org❤️ The Linux Project https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/about/donateWith respects and gratitude to these projects as we all now live in #SoftwareFreedom thanks to them. Honorable mention: @fsf. #DonateToFreeSoftware #OpenSource #GNU #Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #A3omVK9O6Uflr04si0 by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-31T10:57:00Z
       
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       Hi @redstarfish, above I have a new fun post I believe you would be interested. What do you think?
       
 (DIR) Post #A3omVKb2Rgn5El0xo8 by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-02-01T03:58:31Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Isn't FSF and GNU project has the same fund, I mean FSF funds the GNU Project so why two different donation option? Also Linux Foundation doesn't need donations from us, it has corporate doners which pays it millions of dollers. So I'd recommend donating to Framasoft instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3omjc08X1ibGsZ0IS by ahangarha@mas.to
       2021-02-01T04:01:06Z
       
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       @redstarfish @ademalsasa framasoft came to my mind as well. They are amazing and provide many services free of cost to public. They were who made peertube possible. They deserve support.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3oqVz4UMOGWaJM9zM by adnan360@mas.to
       2021-02-01T04:43:27Z
       
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       @redstarfish @ademalsasa Framasoft should get more attention. Their services are important for quitting proprietary suite of software. And also for the awesome #Peertube.This site has a list of their #foss services which is impressive:https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/alternatives/
       
 (DIR) Post #A3ou6yMaFuJSxv9K5I by arh@toots.alirezahayati.com
       2021-02-01T05:23:43Z
       
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       @redstarfish @ademalsasa by becoming an associate member of the Free Software Foundation @fsf, you support our mission and goal to promote software libre all around the world. This includes software made by Framasoft. Our friends at Framasoft are doing an amazing job creating programs that respect computer user freedom.I'm not saying you should not donate to Framasoft, I l'm just aaking not to forget about us and our mission.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3tsiKCWnVxLI5vdgm by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-02-03T14:32:56Z
       
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       What is your choice if you leave #CentOS?Please help me share. :redhat: :centos: :clearos: :rockylinux: :fedora:#FreeSoftware #OpenSource #GNU #Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #A3tsmAfUBOXEspJ7rs by methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz
       2021-02-03T15:02:29.997978Z
       
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       @ademalsasa :debian:
       
 (DIR) Post #A3tspVgMVdEQvUJFTM by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
       2021-02-03T15:03:02Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasaI am surprised you didn't include Debian in there. :-)
       
 (DIR) Post #A3tu6ksdMBGawGpvCC by smartbrain@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-02-03T15:17:24Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa Ubuntu.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3vLmrMiWjUH8SAY3E by danslerush@fosstodon.org
       2021-02-04T08:02:17Z
       
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       @ademalsasa >> @Solus  :solus: << 😬
       
 (DIR) Post #A3vREB9jYNpo6WwUPA by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-02-04T09:03:15.706757Z
       
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       @ademalsasa i use Void for workstations and Alpine for servers.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wo2GUUkT7KsDRaym by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
       2021-02-04T08:46:11.780054Z
       
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       @ademalsasa my project  and my company abandoned CentOS on ~3000 baremetal servers to OpenSUSE. We need to be carrier grade by law.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wo2H2AjG3WYfCUTI by tallship@pleroma.cloud
       2021-02-05T00:53:32.326450Z
       
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       @loweelWhatev that facken' means. Perhaps you shouldn't have chosen Linux, but instead Microsoft Windows servers or Oracle Solaris servers?You're still putting your trust into a GPL'd kernel based OS, as if RHEL or regular SuSE SLES would have been any different?I get the whole, "We're leaving CentOS" thing, but you haven't changed a thing insofar as the reasons you cite, IMO.Don't get me wrong, SuSE (the German fork of Slackware) is great in all of its incarnations. I just don't think you're actually achieving anything substantively different in reality.@ademalsasarandomTemp13283202904086466993.…
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wohbxroYVBLVtk5w by cbaines@octodon.social
       2021-01-31T12:19:51Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa the Linux Foundation is a trade association supporting its member companies.There are better places to donate to.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wohdnezTWf2R8cSm by cbaines@octodon.social
       2021-01-31T12:26:12Z
       
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       @ademalsasa its a little old, but have a read of https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html
       
 (DIR) Post #A3woylUDfKzrngD5bU by bionade24@mastodon.social
       2021-02-01T06:26:13Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa @fsf Linux foundation is a coporate joke and doesn't support the FOSS community.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wpHdGATawzmudO8e by downey@floss.social
       2021-02-03T15:29:31Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       :debian: Debian 😄
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wpZgWr3oBl8i310K by pwarren@mastodon.thewarrens.name
       2021-02-03T22:28:56Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa debian. It's the other stable one!
       
 (DIR) Post #A3wpaDOUru6x4LOJ3g by mint@distrotoot.com
       2021-02-03T22:37:06Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ademalsasa :arch_linux: 😎
       
 (DIR) Post #AJhoB1GI8gjjJUTsqu by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-29T01:27:41Z
       
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       Thanks my friend @MangoMamba for resharing my fun #Messengers poll. Believe me, this was the best experience I had with social networks ever.
       
 (DIR) Post #AJhoB1sZqLMTEEOSWm by MangoMamba@mstdn.social
       2021-01-29T01:38:24Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Mastodon is fun and social. I'm unsure why I'm like a duck to water with Mastodon and a complete failure on Twitter. Do you have a good reference for XMPP? I thought you did but I couldn't find it the second time. I only find info for developers. I installed Gajim and Im back to zero again.TGIF! which means thank god its friday. I don't know if that's relevant anymore with so many unemployed, self employed and multiple cultures in an electronic world.
       
 (DIR) Post #AJhoB2GgOidyQzfi6K by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-29T02:35:14Z
       
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       @MangoMamba thanks for asking me! Here's my recommendation today for #Xmpp: - #Movim https://movim.eu <- try this first!- #Blabber https://blabber.im/en- #Librehost https://libreho.st- #Framasoft https://entraide.chatons.org/enI suggest you to ask my friend @lps for further Xmpp things. #FreeSoftware #OpenSource
       
 (DIR) Post #AJhoD7Uzv7kBEkMSp6 by raketenlurch@chaos.social
       2021-01-26T12:37:23Z
       
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       @ademalsasa Element, Signal and Jabber
       
 (DIR) Post #AJhoD7y4B2zogtxg8G by ademalsasa@floss.social
       2021-01-26T13:07:06Z
       
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       @raketenlurch thanks for mentioning three solutions at once:- #Element https://element.io - #Signal https://signal.org - #XMPP https://xmpp.orgFrom this poll, friends recommended many XMPP apps such as #Blabber (https://blabber.im/en) and @kaidan (https://kaidan.im). Honestly, I also interested in #Movim (https://movim.eu) as it has video call I heard.