Post A3IGStHJM6MVp9DSng by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
 (DIR) More posts by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
 (DIR) Post #A3IEkgJ47g4ctgONo8 by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
       2021-01-15T23:57:39Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       I took the #signal downtime as an opportunity to appreciate what’s happening here. Millions around the world are making a choice for more privacy. And let’s be honest: every single tech company would come to a grinding halt under that kind of increase in load. We’re talking about well over 1500% in just a few days. I feel for the devops now working their asses off to get things back up. Set up a recurring donation now! I don’t even want to imagine the figure on their next aws bill...
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IEkgdyruntwYB5PM by nipos@social.avareborn.de
       2021-01-16T11:09:09Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @jokke I hope this centralized walled-garden stays down for a long time.It's no better than Whatsapp 👎
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IF8x4ZRDivqYBYf2 by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
       2021-01-16T11:13:29Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nipos of course it’s better than WhatsApp! In so many ways: non-profit, almost no metadata, open source client and server. I grant you there are “better” solutions than #signal from a technical perspective that build on federation but try getting your grandmother to use xmpp or matrix. The UX is just so much worse.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IFMCfUlW5Fyom8hM by nipos@social.avareborn.de
       2021-01-16T11:15:50Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @jokke No,simply no.I think I should really make a blog post out of my old toot some day 🤣 Here is a big list of Signal problems: https://cryptpad.toot.koeln/pad/#/2/pad/view/0uonE17tyihTCtZGmg4IL6LHOOprrt0t0Q8Cqbygzs4/ Matrix and Jabber work quite good for me.And if you need it even easier,have a look at the decentralized Signal fork Session.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IGDhO9HM6ybZAcfw by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
       2021-01-16T11:25:23Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nipos of course Matrix and xmpp work quite well for you. But you’re an IT professional. 😄 It’s a whole different story for users that have nothing to do with technology in their lives and maybe don’t even have a computer. IOS apps for xmpp are terrible, the set of XEPs for xmpp servers varies widely. I have hopes for matrix but won’t use it until there’s a decent server implementation that doesn’t suck your server dry of its resources.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IGStHJM6MVp9DSng by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
       2021-01-16T11:25:24Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nipos I never said Signal was perfect. And by no means I’m a fan of Moxie. But your claim it’s no better than WhatsApp is just objectively false.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IGStWuQ6q4bWVv72 by nipos@social.avareborn.de
       2021-01-16T11:28:20Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @jokke It's not.Have you read my link?And I agree that Jabber is a mess.It can work quite good if you know what you're doing but you can also have bad luck 😕 I'm using Matrix as main messenger and it works really good.Even people without technical knowledge understand how to use it.The server part really isn't that good unfortunately but I'm happy to do the hard work so that other people can chat in a safe way.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3IH2qaAr6spt8BVAG by jokke@bantha.tatooine.space
       2021-01-16T11:34:50Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @nipos yes I’ve read your link. Apart from not having public group chats (you can, with group links) I even agree with your points. However, what I listed in my first response is also true. Which by definition makes it better than WhatsApp because all of your points also apply to WhatsApp. I appreciate your and the matrix team for their efforts and I personally think federation is key. But I also think matrix is not ready yet to be accessible by the broader population.