Post A3Eh8wXFSMoOGQXluS by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
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(DIR) Post #A3EYCPg0fQEPvRDnmq by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:28:13Z
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Just realized running a community server will be eternal FUD rebutting endevourI'll probably shut down https://bitcoinhackers.orgI've better things to do w/ my life than rebutting scammers & FUDstersWill likely run a Mastodon for Myself & a few and then just connect to others
(DIR) Post #A3EYIQlDY91l1bWjBo by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:29:18Z
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@nvk Sad to hear this, it has been working fine for quite some time.
(DIR) Post #A3EYKl8wjpZQotjiAS by misha@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:29:42Z
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@nvk but i like it here! š
(DIR) Post #A3EYNIStorokkFHMZ6 by Brocketman@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:30:10Z
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@nvk hmm. Plz donāt do that. I have had piece in my mind since joining...
(DIR) Post #A3EYP2E5AO8YxZB3Sq by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:30:29Z
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@kekcoin Blame JWW, WalletScrutny guy and Zack from Foundation
(DIR) Post #A3EYPXcyPtT2Lk3s48 by honeybadger69420@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:30:34Z
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@nvk It was good until it lasted. But with you shutting bitcoinhackers and twitter banning everyone who is not a commie, bitcoiners will need a place to go. We need to explore more options.
(DIR) Post #A3EYQNc38ZcrZw1rqS by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:30:44Z
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@misha me too
(DIR) Post #A3EYSkWSvhVJDBXz3A by yaddlezap@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:31:09Z
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@nvk Who says you have to rebut FUD? It rebuts itself rather quickly.
(DIR) Post #A3EYTMOI8XXoeq0zaK by demetrio108@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:31:15Z
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@nvk Just setup donations via LN
(DIR) Post #A3EYUUiwdjeqnADTUm by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:31:29Z
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@honeybadger69420 Wont be immediate. But FUDsters is why we can't have nice things.
(DIR) Post #A3EYXEEKQ6B8VRCQNM by bitcoinhacker@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:31:55Z
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@nvk :( if you do that can i be at least part of that fewi like few
(DIR) Post #A3EYZMiLqYctOmGGUy by GrandVizierOfMalta@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:32:22Z
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@nvk This is working out so well. I hope you reconsider.
(DIR) Post #A3EYZtNEQ6LAgpdMf2 by veetipitko@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:32:28Z
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@nvk don't do it jack
(DIR) Post #A3EYc3NuAeV2JiynJY by hiddenite@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:32:52Z
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@nvk maybe not, please? Haters gonna hate.
(DIR) Post #A3EYd3ufgvY6FImpzk by xeNonsky@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:33:00Z
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@nvk no :/
(DIR) Post #A3EYihpogtd5VbCu1I by jeffreyspears@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:34:02Z
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@nvk Sorry to hear. Glad someone mentioned Mastodon before/if you decided to shut down bitcoinhackers. Thanks for running it! š
(DIR) Post #A3EYktmfEdut9CmIzI by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:34:27Z
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@hiddenite I don't care about haters. The probably is too many ppl are too dumb and amplify their message.
(DIR) Post #A3EYnso9Jw1ozNtbUG by skyler@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:34:58Z
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@nvk F
(DIR) Post #A3EYoNCIKjATExQJHs by honeybadger69420@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:35:05Z
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@nvk Fudsters are a problem. But have you thought about a worthy moderator team? Mastodon is federated so there isn't much load here and if you have a mod team then maybe they'll do the FUD control.
(DIR) Post #A3EYpwxoq7ooSRP8KW by Zachary_BTC@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:35:22Z
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@nvk Can you pick a few mods? Maybe setup a mod donation fund? I know its a lot of work but this seems to be really something. I have bandwidth and Im setting up a couple servers as we speak but also wont have the ability to moderate my self...
(DIR) Post #A3EYslVrs0RToQfmYi by pointsixonefive@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:35:52Z
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@nvk You need to do whatever is best for you, but I for one would like to see how this experiment plays out.The cyber hornets are pretty good at self-policing. Perhaps you can take a hands off role and see how it goes letting the community police itself?
(DIR) Post #A3EYtwFPRdeVOWXAXY by Clashicly@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:36:06Z
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@nvk That would be very unfortunate. Couldn't you just put them on ignore/block on a personal level?
(DIR) Post #A3EYvhkiJASV1B1Cy0 by eatoutfrom5lbs@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:36:23Z
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@nvk sadness.
(DIR) Post #A3EYxzOdgBAuJpmaH2 by lucash_dev@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:36:49Z
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@nvk :(Should we take this as notice to move?Thanks for hosting us for a bit anyway
(DIR) Post #A3EZ4Wt84RCxvgA9Wi by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:37:58Z
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@nvk I'd say fuck em, but can't make decisions on your behalf. Apparently data exports are limited to once every 7 days. Is there any way to set the instance to archive/read-only mode? Or better yet, no-toot mode but you can still set up account forwarding to whatever instance you end up moving to?
(DIR) Post #A3EZ7rXJl1kypyY9lg by Atticusrexicus@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:38:37Z
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@nvk damn that sucks... if anyone has good recommendations to move to please let me know. This community is too great to leave entirely. Still working on my own instance, just not enough time at the moment.
(DIR) Post #A3EZIRasYGOBYzGGOW by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:40:30Z
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and don't worry will give time.
(DIR) Post #A3EZIsO2w5AQf0Stdo by jgettbtc@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:40:31Z
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@nvk There's always complainers, no way to avoid it. For what it's worth I think the people who appreciate what you're doing with bitcoinhackers greatly outnumber the haters. Regardless of what you decide to do, It's been a very positive experience for me these last few days, so thank you for that.
(DIR) Post #A3EZfsm7erjKWchG9A by PatrickWilcox@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:44:42Z
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@nvk Hmm I thought this would be a good place for seriuos discussion. I am glad so many want to move from twitter. If not here than where?
(DIR) Post #A3EZjVMidY6J4zXeHw by vaibhav@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:45:24Z
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@nvk: what your bitcoin address so that I can donate for bitcoinhackers.org upkeep.
(DIR) Post #A3EZxP9kWFuZsO6SkS by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T16:47:55Z
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@nvk How much does the VM cost to run per month? Be good for someone else to just take it over, given that so many have joined it.
(DIR) Post #A3Ea3sDrMeSzlG6uKO by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:49:06Z
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@pete that's the wrong approach. All we did was re-centralize over here. We need smaller groups running their own instances.
(DIR) Post #A3Ea6FMoHjyG7aQdBg by Rejekts@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:49:30Z
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@nvk this post just caused me to FUD my pantsš³š¬š„“
(DIR) Post #A3EaGBA0mNkXyHB6lE by jb55@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:51:11Z
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@nvk @pete how much time will you give? I was going to eventually but this puts the fire under my butt a bit.
(DIR) Post #A3EaIQvJ91ApRDNLHM by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T16:51:44Z
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@nvk The world isn't perfect. Having bitcoinhackers.org is still a huge improvement over Twitter. You don't need to solve every problem perfectly, first try.
(DIR) Post #A3EaQMZLDXwMFYskLY by michaelfolkson@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:53:10Z
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@jb55 @nvk @pete Can you keep it up @nvk until we can re-organize?
(DIR) Post #A3EaUI4bsGL3SuNeK0 by Crabel@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:53:49Z
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@pete @nvk what about transferring into a separate entity? I hate to see this go. We need to have a place where people can talk. Yes, there are going to be complications and problems but on the net I think they will be overall a net gain for everyone. Many of us jumped Twitter and are hoping for a raft to continue the community.Before you shutdown the instance, please consider allowing it to persist independently.
(DIR) Post #A3EafFLmL4WQCmdRqq by jb55@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:55:51Z
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@pete @nvk yes I'm happy to help pay or take over moderation in the meantime, as would others.
(DIR) Post #A3Eaff5idP7m2VJzQe by Clashicly@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:55:55Z
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@nvk @pete Unless you can lock new signups and go invite only on this instance. Then others can start a couple related instances and invite the exodus from Twitter there.
(DIR) Post #A3EakYc8905VOloeW0 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T16:56:48Z
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@Clashicly @nvk Yup. If spam from new accounts was an issue invite-only/request-to-join is a perfectly good option. Can probably automate it eventually with a LN payment.
(DIR) Post #A3EapzYvNWlMQPuLo0 by btcdca@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:57:47Z
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Sorry to hear that.I have really found this refreshing as compared to the bird site
(DIR) Post #A3Eb1DYHhnnmzyxfRA by Jorj_X_McKie@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T16:59:47Z
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@nvk please pass it on rather than shut it down.
(DIR) Post #A3EbKjB4LYC0aNPDF2 by Crabel@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:03:20Z
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@pete @Clashicly @nvk this would actually be a great use case for LN. The payments can fund the maintenance of the instance. Iām definitely down for paying to help support the community discussion. Would best set it up as a 501.3(c) if creating a US entity.A crazier option would be to set it up in an independent legal jurisdiction, e.g. the ācitadelā I helped start in Honduras, Ciudad de OrquĆdeas.
(DIR) Post #A3EbbagPBNBBAB6UfQ by joshirio@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:06:23Z
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@nvk well the experiment was fun, thanks nvk!
(DIR) Post #A3EbfYyfStxN23XYHo by hiram9@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:07:06Z
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@nvk aw man, I just got here and have been enjoying it. What instance should all us noobs flee to?
(DIR) Post #A3Ec9RAP4NlnUlH4hU by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:12:26Z
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@jb55 @pete no. every time a centalized bitcoin site/community was passed on there was abuse and/or issues. I rather people take their time and dissipate into smaller groups connected with eachother.
(DIR) Post #A3EcBKvFG1l4hv5dSK by Crabel@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:12:49Z
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@pete @Clashicly @nvk not to mention, it would self select based on competency and willingness to use LN. Provided the forum actually created a net value it would persist.
(DIR) Post #A3Eca0LKuK8M7c3Yu0 by alanturing@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:17:15Z
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@nvk @jb55 @pete One thing that would be lacking with everyone fully federated is the Local timeline.That was a definite help in bootstrapping I think.
(DIR) Post #A3EcbeGvwDDcFUmUCW by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:17:37Z
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@nvk @jb55 The fact is it's very valuable to have an easy on-ramp to Mastodon. Like I say, it doesn't have to be perfectly decentralized to be a big improvement; perfect is the enemy of better. I'm sure people here would be willing to take the problem off your hands (modulo funding, I'd be willing to take it over).
(DIR) Post #A3EcmDFUkYG1ci95Oa by javier@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:19:30Z
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@nvk @jb55 @pete would you promote the new groups? I'll be happy to have an spanish one.
(DIR) Post #A3Ecpn5ZxCEZeFDIlE by jb55@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:20:09Z
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@pete @nvk yeah I don't disagree with what @nvk is saying, but people are still new to the fediverse. this will harm decentralization because non-technical people will just leave here and sign up to larger hubs.at least we can educate here in the meantime. your call though, but I don't see the harm in passing admin to someone.
(DIR) Post #A3EcqwpREA6W92DQbA by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:20:23Z
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@javier @nvk @jb55 I'd certainly promote it. :)
(DIR) Post #A3Ed0I6TUulOjXdi2S by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:22:02Z
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@jb55 @pete @nvk Maybe you guys could set up an alternative server for people to transition to? That way someone who might have decided to trust @nvk with their personal data but wouldn't trust either of you, can take their account elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #A3Ed0oKPgcvWg2PICu by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:22:09Z
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@jb55 @nvk IMO even having 100% on one Mastodon instance is still better than Twitter, and I say that being one of the very few who has my own personal instance.
(DIR) Post #A3Ed1N2ubgiwLtUJHs by Jose_S_Bam@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:22:15Z
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@nvk this is the way.
(DIR) Post #A3Ed6QSbL8FgOCukHg by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:23:10Z
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@kekcoin @jb55 @nvk The only personal data is DMs and metadata like IP addresses. I think it's fine to just give people a heads up before transferring operation/trust to someone else.
(DIR) Post #A3EdAAHzPDc7OTjXxA by javier@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:23:50Z
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@pete @nvk @jb55 all right then we need some more voluntarian to create more groups. Probably localized groups, or of some kind.
(DIR) Post #A3EdEAhPp5JFp9XM12 by Via_negativa@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:24:33Z
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@nvk Well, itās certainly your choice. But Iād like to add my voice exhorting you not to shut it down. Iāve only been here 3 days and itās totally refreshing. You have dedicated cyber hornets steadily migrating here, nvm. Canāt you just let the swarm deal with the FUDsters?
(DIR) Post #A3EdHut8Y8XHwgnzUm by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:25:14Z
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@pete @jb55 @nvk Sure, it wouldn't be that much different from what you'd be able to see if you were made moderators. But still - this way is more permissionless.
(DIR) Post #A3EdPo55k5eb9N9wWG by Via_negativa@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:26:40Z
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@nvk Well, itās certainly your choice. But Iād like to add my voice exhorting you not to shut it down. Iāve only been here 3 days and itās totally refreshing. You have dedicated cyber hornets steadily migrating here, nvk. Canāt you just let the swarm deal with the FUDsters?
(DIR) Post #A3EdkGXddXubD6Ge3c by verbohtn@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:30:16Z
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@nvk š
(DIR) Post #A3Ee6GbM5vLllcUsDo by alanturing@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:33:09Z
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@nvk @jb55 @pete @nvk, it would be a bummer if you shut down. Obviously your call, but I as well would be willing to help out if there is something that could make it workable for you.
(DIR) Post #A3Ee6GtmzO5ygn7axE by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:34:19Z
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@alanturing @jb55 @pete Thanks :) but https://bitcoinhackers.org/@nvk/105555096108754702
(DIR) Post #A3EeHdkyLQwQlbQ0ae by coldbit@bitcoinplebs.net
2021-01-14T17:35:31Z
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@nvk Me and Dorian N have setup a new instance for the https://bitcoinplebs.net Registrations are open.
(DIR) Post #A3EeKOCUddxzOBbO5Y by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:36:54Z
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@nvk @alanturing @jb55 Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. I really don't think there is enough traction right now to transition to a pile of independent servers - lots of less technical people on this instance, and it's a big overhead to set one up relative to the alternatives. More likely that Bitcoin mastodon will just die.
(DIR) Post #A3EeLa4vxftCWAdOa0 by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:37:06Z
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@coldbit try and make it invite only, multiple and small instances would be a much better model.
(DIR) Post #A3EeakTDbjqX5hE3w8 by drgo@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:39:50Z
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@nvk I like the general plan. How hard is it for each user to spin up their own instance? I do think pushing towards federated model with lots of nodes is ideal. There is a large subset that wonāt be able to participate this way though.
(DIR) Post #A3EeeOIjyPkZUe3syu by alanturing@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:36:23Z
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@nvk @jb55 @pete I don't know your time frame on this, but a way to turn this into a positive would be for us to get some people together around a new instance where lightning would be incorporated. It would create a community goal as something to work toward, as well as an understanding that this instance would be shutting or scaling down.
(DIR) Post #A3EeeOWv7h5oCchD5E by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:40:27Z
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@alanturing take your time.
(DIR) Post #A3Eei0OUnlS0VMTe3E by Clashicly@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:41:07Z
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@pete @nvk Will try to spin up a bare metal Mastodon to keep the exodus going. I'll post up links when this is done.
(DIR) Post #A3Eei9JVdfoGAVDI1o by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:41:11Z
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@pete @alanturing @jb55 I've turned off signups, not in a hurry to shut down. Just want some fire on people's asses so they start actually working on it ;)
(DIR) Post #A3EevUf3a3R08oefvk by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T17:43:36Z
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@drgo @nvk This is what I used: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/mastodonVery easy, _if_ you understand the basics of how web servers work. But if you don't, kinda hopeless...The instructions for setting up your own, on your own hardware, aren't so easy frankly. I haven't tried alternative software. But Mastodon itself is kinda a beast - it's a standard high scalability web app using lots of fancy tech. It looks intimidating to me, so I went for the one-click option.Probably a docker setup somewhere...
(DIR) Post #A3Ef8CkHVBpULD9yTY by drbitcoinmd@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:45:54Z
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@pete @nvk @alanturing @jb55 100% thisThe community is just starting to see the benefit of network effects from the influx of users. Making a move to independent instances would be a death blow.
(DIR) Post #A3EfdAF8r5kdYdMDVA by nicebit@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:51:29Z
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@nvk That sucks, but I understand you... you have a reputation to protect.I don't :) Can I take over?
(DIR) Post #A3EfdxIMTuRRgoEyp6 by CryptoSage@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T17:51:37Z
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@nvk @pete @alanturing @jb55 This is very disheartening. The good thing is something else will take BH.o's place. We are social creatures and like someone above mentioned, the local timeline is absolutely the BEST feature because it's ALL BITCOINERS.
(DIR) Post #A3Egoa7l4SZ0xuuay8 by drgo@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:04:45Z
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@pete @nvk awesome. Thanks for the link. Running on someone elseās hardware is less than idealā¦How about we just all send messages over blockstream satellite :) Maybe @grubles can code up a satellite API filter app that only collects messages from people you follow ;)
(DIR) Post #A3Eh02FmpIr5OQ823U by rootdude@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:06:47Z
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@nvk rug pull???
(DIR) Post #A3Eh4qTE40fiIOhyNM by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:07:40Z
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@rootdude fuck off.
(DIR) Post #A3Eh8wXFSMoOGQXluS by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:08:24Z
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@rootdude stop depending on others, run your own instance. Not your instance, not your data.
(DIR) Post #A3EhTofTtyGlwgLcOW by rootdude@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:12:11Z
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@nvk can we ask for a how-to on setting up our own instances using a Pi? My Casa would be a good host...
(DIR) Post #A3EhidtmDyl4t96VlY by Q_uantumB@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:14:53Z
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@nvk is there a chance of hiring an administrator to take on those tasks? then if there are sufficient donations maybe it creates a new job for some willing an capable individual.roughly how many hours per week does it require?
(DIR) Post #A3EhnBisPPbAx0AmvY by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:15:43Z
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@Q_uantumB nope, the go is to decentralize, not run another centralized community.
(DIR) Post #A3EhnKAozOhn9zJDay by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-14T18:15:45Z
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@drgo @nvk @grubles You could do that fairly easily with the Scuttlebutt protocol actually, as it's crypto-based and doesn't care where data comes from. Mastodon has message signing too, which is used for relay servers. But it'd be a bit messier, as you'd still need instance servers for the initial identity.
(DIR) Post #A3EhseyB66GZ6cwILI by coldbit@bitcoinplebs.net
2021-01-14T18:15:52Z
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@nvk Please consider adding a relay to your instance eg. this one https://relay.101010.pl/inbox
(DIR) Post #A3EiGt0EZeNBZxS94q by Rejekts@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:21:04Z
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@nvk @rootdude You (nvk) have used your social capital to grow this instance which has achieved amazing network effects....very few of us can duplicate. Do what you like, just know itās not easy to recreate what you have done. :bitcoin:
(DIR) Post #A3EiT7njNcM8wyRNSq by NormieNorm@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:23:15Z
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@nvk @pete If we move to a more decentralized model is there a way to replicate the "local" bitcoin timeline? That's probably what I would miss the most.
(DIR) Post #A3EicoyqD5LZTTGEim by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:25:02Z
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@NormieNorm @pete You could replicate by having watching your lists or who you follow
(DIR) Post #A3EjkDXfO9NRdGdnGq by JJ18942808@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:37:32Z
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@nvk You are doing a great job, but you need to delegate responsibility to others who want and can help you. good luck... š
(DIR) Post #A3Ek8iW5sRgMeGaUD2 by TallTim@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:42:01Z
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@nvk At least allow us to dupe the datatbase. Feel like all the time I spent here meant something...
(DIR) Post #A3EkFUMitBk8mpQvui by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:43:13Z
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@TallTim take your time, nothing changing but closed signups for the near future. Everyone can export their own graphs.
(DIR) Post #A3EkZmxlSCr2G0RHIu by TallTim@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:46:53Z
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@nvk I'll try to figure out what that meant - I've been out of the loop for dev for a while. Thanks though, for putting this thing up in the first place.
(DIR) Post #A3ElYEreqUxwAQPK8e by Zachary_BTC@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T18:57:44Z
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@nvk @pete @alanturing @jb55 Working on mine now! I'll post the info here asap.
(DIR) Post #A3ElutvSrRpxt5zhdQ by LadyAnarki@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T19:01:55Z
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@nvk @kekcoin 3 people vs 10k. š„ Why do the bad apples always get preferential treatment?I understand your frustration & the sheer responsibility of being the face of this. Yet already, many people are willing to step up & create solutions. We're so lucky so many people in our community want to help each other & keep us together.Too much decentralization is just as bad as too much centralization imo. There needs to be a balance - Communism vs. Community vs. Lone wolves is my analogy.
(DIR) Post #A3EnoTbK1VJcPgdYLQ by cryptovfefe@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T19:23:10Z
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@nvk Iām sorry to hear this. Iāve rly enjoyed this place
(DIR) Post #A3EqMNiEcftLu9AJJQ by Jpaq@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T19:51:40Z
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@nvk First of all, thank you for this instance. I get your frustration. My only worry is this. Bitcoinhackers shuts down and most people are unable or unwilling to run their own instance. This will send them to gab or worse yet, back to Twitter. I know thatās not your problem. I just hope this new Bitcoin Mastodon weāve built because of your instance doesnāt get lost in the shift. I wish you the best and hope this all works out. Maybe Iām being dramatic š
(DIR) Post #A3EwhCbxgvBlHUXhM8 by 100millionsat@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T21:02:36Z
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@nvk Understood. I think its a great choice. decentralization is the goal. Im not willing to run a server, so I put myself at your mercy. would love to stay if I can be a part of the few, otherwise will seek out new home. somewhere plebs rule and bitcoin is religion.
(DIR) Post #A3F2K65IOKPm6Rd3iK by SovereignMan@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T22:05:45Z
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@nvk completely, 100% understand where youāre coming from. But sadly also understand human nature and sadly it will likely mean the death knell for Bitcoin Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #A3F6cP4outa82HOJm4 by BTCHODL@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T22:53:53Z
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@nvk thanks man. Beautiful while it lasted. Very special
(DIR) Post #A3F7NUMT5P7K2J682a by Ogfomk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T23:02:22Z
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@nvk How about a 1000 Satoshi account model. Like you can provide a lightening address and we can donate 1000 sats to join? Not too expensive but at least a vested bitcoin user can join.
(DIR) Post #A3FCD2DlM9JLdRrPua by CaitlinLong@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-14T23:56:28Z
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@nvk no -- please no!!! If scammers is the issue & there's no way to block them, how about moving to another platform? Is Scuttlebutt any better?
(DIR) Post #A3FCVsWFeS6b31UftA by rootdude@social.librem.one
2021-01-14T23:59:56Z
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@nvk FWIW, librem.one hosts a long-standing instance that is privacy focused and available on their free plan that i moved over to already. You can export/import the accounts you follow as well as some other stuff making it relatively painless. HMU if you want more deets.
(DIR) Post #A3FCldYr25hhI1E35U by Sosthene@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T00:02:47Z
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@nvk I've been here without interruption from the very beginning. In case you decide to shut it down, I want to thank you for keeping it alive that long, but I totally understand this decision.Let's see the silver lining: it will force bitcoiners to decentralise on other instances and maybe some will even run their own. I would seriously consider running my own at least.
(DIR) Post #A3FEU4jfSaMcGW2Mc4 by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T00:22:01Z
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@CaitlinLong no need to worry, I will keep this running for a while. I closed sign ups and am encouraging people to start creating other instances. Iām optimistic about how things will play out.
(DIR) Post #A3FFnGQEKlvjxzevD6 by BTCDMD@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T00:36:42Z
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@nvk @CaitlinLong noooo what do we do
(DIR) Post #A3FFv3X095KwIrXeK0 by CaitlinLong@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T00:38:07Z
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@nvk Thank you. It feels like social media is at the equivalent point on the event horizon as the traditional financial system in Dec 2006, when subprime mortgages saw the very first uptick in delinquencies. Only the fringe was warning of a blow-up & most were poo-pooing it. For social media today, self-cancellation has begun en masse. I liken it to that early uptick in subprime mortgage delinquencies in Dec 06. So...where's the Satoshi of decentralized, censorship-resistant social media???
(DIR) Post #A3FOt8uq3R2C0kr0aG by nvk@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T02:18:36Z
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@CaitlinLong https://bitcoinhackers.org/@nvk/105557070194460720
(DIR) Post #A3FWFOQ5n4fu981t1E by drgo@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T03:41:03Z
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@nvk @CaitlinLong next free weekend Iāll follow @peteās lead and try setting up my own instance. It matters. Someday Iāll host it on my business connection on my own hardware. But thatās step 2.
(DIR) Post #A3Fw4anK2U889GPCue by peevishpenguin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-15T08:30:25Z
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@nvk I don't have a clue, but myself, and many others are extremely thankful. Thanks a lot! And if you don't want to keep it running, totally get that too.
(DIR) Post #A3JwmntzRaQUAtRhEO by pj@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-17T06:57:16Z
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@nvk Was it something I said? LOL.
(DIR) Post #A3Se3KvvmN3iqtHhQW by Andrew_B@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-21T08:59:38Z
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@nvk
(DIR) Post #A3WijzT7NpWvONlXU0 by freethinkingperson@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-23T10:51:22Z
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@nvk I hope you change your mind. I like it here and just got started.
(DIR) Post #A3Wke6O0wze71AhMiO by freethinkingperson@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-23T11:12:42Z
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@pete @drgo @nvk Thanks for that. There is also this, similar: https://blog.travisbriggs.com/setting-up-your-own-mastodon-with-digital-ocean-and-docker-29e633d354f2Anyway, I hope bitcoin hackers stays but if it doesn't please give us a few months notice so we can create our own and connect with everyone.