Post A396DVMtlqqDL1prXM by cycryptr@bitcoinhackers.org
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 (DIR) Post #A3946Y3LBw1rjFF6Lw by mattodell@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-11T22:26:54Z
       
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       We cannot rely on Tor if this environment turns more adversarial. Feels like a major weak point.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3946YG6QUEmMpDIFE by mattodell@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-11T22:38:32Z
       
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       My biggest concern is the sovereign onion only lightning network which currently relies on reliable Tor uptime otherwise funds are at risk.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3946Ybj85XDRtKYwy by cycryptr@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-11T23:45:47Z
       
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       @mattodell you know, I’m not so sure. My tor only node was sending and receiving funds throughout the day yesterday during the periods it was reported down. I’d have to double check the logs but I didn’t see any issues. Pretty sure it’s V3.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3946YuA1YHQN3xHgO by mattodell@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-11T23:58:30Z
       
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       @cycryptr I didn't lose any funds and have multiple Tor v3 only lightning nodes but the concern stands. The threat model relies on Tor reliability and I don't think that's a reasonable assumption if you have a decent amount of coin on your nodes.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3946Z9P6sTP8L5SRU by cycryptr@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-12T00:00:03Z
       
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       @mattodell For sure, I totally get that. I'm just questioning why my node seemed to be okay during the V3 downtime. Maybe once the peers are connected, it's okay? Idk.
       
 (DIR) Post #A3946ZJKVyPfd7jNui by spencerdupre@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-12T00:57:26Z
       
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       @cycryptr @mattodell I have 2 v3 onion nodes that also continued to route through the downtime. Of course, I couldn't get to RTL 😑
       
 (DIR) Post #A396DVMtlqqDL1prXM by cycryptr@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-12T01:21:06Z
       
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       @spencerdupre @mattodell Just confirmed with Alex from LL. The tor issue seems to be a connection issue but if you're already connected, no problem. @yegorpetrov said his new channel is having issues. So I think it makes sense. So funds safu in this case, just don't get knocked offline.
       
 (DIR) Post #A396OmLJ07ttAVSxbE by spencerdupre@bitcoinhackers.org
       2021-01-12T01:23:10Z
       
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       @cycryptr @mattodell @yegorpetrov Makes sense. To make an onion site, you must have a rendezvous point. To have a rendezvous point, you must be able to look it up in the directory. The directories were DDOSed. So if you already had connections you were good.