Post A35lL6bZ2lfALBbAKO by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
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(DIR) Post #A35VBfYwcON0b7qrdA by stephanlivera@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:39:56Z
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Hypothetically if we wanted to make Bitcoin Mastodon a thing, what would it take? Do we have to make Bitcoin Mastodon content more appealing than Bitcoin Twitter? Any ideas on how this would happen?
(DIR) Post #A35VBfnpj2HPLIokq0 by verretor@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:42:03Z
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@stephanlivera I think we should keep posting the kind of stuff that we like.I don't censor myself here.
(DIR) Post #A35VFpUFf5uoXHdl8S by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:42:49Z
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@stephanlivera Twitter's networks effects are very strong. We'd need a supermajority of bitcoiners to move over, but also non-bitcoiners to troll and poke fun of 😜
(DIR) Post #A35VPM5tnYb6Gtn9jE by stephanlivera@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:44:32Z
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@djbooth007 so we need FinTwit to come here too!
(DIR) Post #A35VR55vyNCe7zdC8e by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T07:44:52Z
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@verretor @stephanlivera I can actually think of one topic where I'd censor myself less.
(DIR) Post #A35VWB8gvXAcK3LrJA by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:45:46Z
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@stephanlivera Yes, I truly believe that. There would need to be fodder for our bitcoin banter.
(DIR) Post #A35VmNhpyHqJvnW6To by ibz@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:48:43Z
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@pete @verretor @stephanlivera It has to be "cool" for bitcoiners. For me it already is. It's totally in the spirit of Bitcoin. Decentralized. Unstoppable. Run your own instance/node. Maybe if some of the bigger accounts talk about it in this way (rather than "let's just move to something else like Parler") people will get it.
(DIR) Post #A35VqNqbO6D9WnWbZY by bimmer@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:49:16Z
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@verretor @stephanlivera I didn't know about mastodon until yesterday. This is it's "moment". I think it should be part of the mynode stack with ip2tor. Also a podcast on SLP might get the ball rolling too
(DIR) Post #A35VrlmfsSAY3WLgOG by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T07:49:41Z
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@ibz @verretor @stephanlivera The fact that Parler is going to be down due to censorship in another hour or two certainly helps the case for Mastodon. 😂
(DIR) Post #A35VyvaznQe0VsIcpU by ibz@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:50:58Z
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@pete @verretor @stephanlivera Yeah, I was shocked when people on Twitter were like "this sucks, let's move to Parler". Like "USD sucks, let's convert our cash to EUR". Really?
(DIR) Post #A35W82TlZbZgT4GKVE by KyleJayBonnell@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:52:37Z
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@pete @ibz @verretor @stephanlivera How many bitcoiners even know 'what' Mastodon is? Its never come up on my Twitter feed ever & I follow all the main handles.
(DIR) Post #A35WedPjmkC8Hov9JA by ibz@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:55:51Z
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@KyleJayBonnell @pete @verretor @stephanlivera Most don't. And if they heard about it, they think it's just another Parler. Which it really isn't.The cool thing is you can join on bitcoinhackers.org in 3 minutes, then later you can set up your own instance and migrate your account over.I really think some of the bigger accounts should talk about these things. Hence I keep bugging Stephan. ;)
(DIR) Post #A35WedZJD9qolVOnE8 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T07:58:30Z
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@ibz @KyleJayBonnell @verretor @stephanlivera I think it's easier with the more tech-oriented side of bitcoin, because they do tend to know what mastodon is.
(DIR) Post #A35ZDl3BaMMO0uFRtw by lucash_dev@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:27:13Z
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@djbooth007 @stephanlivera maybe impersonating/parodying no-coiners is enough
(DIR) Post #A35ZYeonx0uulbUGPo by czino@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:31:03Z
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@djbooth007 @stephanlivera would it be enough to echo tweets of the usual suspects through bots? Only downside is that they won't respond. Maybe the bot should inform them at the same time on birdsite 🤔
(DIR) Post #A35ZZIymdKfNK8SnWS by verretor@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:31:09Z
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@bimmer @stephanlivera There's no way big podcasts won't talk about it after Parler gets banned.
(DIR) Post #A35bJCfyV8hb377F0i by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:50:39Z
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@czino @stephanlivera birdsite has turned really harsh against bots that reply to anyone (despite all the scams). Not sure if there are any good solutions to have discussions that cross-post here and there.
(DIR) Post #A35bWvxRSLK7Fiphsu by stephanlivera@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:53:08Z
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@djbooth007 @czino Yeah I think the more 'rich' interactions have to be done natively. The initial posts could probably be copy/pasted around though
(DIR) Post #A35cT4gl9X0V7vkmsi by raucao@kosmos.social
2021-01-10T08:57:52Z
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@stephanlivera Step 1: Don't call it Mastodon. Here on the fediverse, we have many interoperable server implementations. Call it fediverse, fedi, or open social web.Step 2: Stop posting to birdsite. Exceptions allowed. But feeding it all your content is what keeps people there. Weak posting hands are weak.
(DIR) Post #A35cT5J2rBdF2ffMYa by stephanlivera@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:59:02Z
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@raucao Ok fair enough I'll call it fediverse. But asking me to not post to twitter is a pretty big ask, podcasts live and die by audience and reach...
(DIR) Post #A35cT6iFcxO9P8T0U4 by orionwl@x0f.org
2021-01-10T09:01:26Z
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@stephanlivera @raucao i think that's unreasonable to ask, just posting here *as well* would help 😀
(DIR) Post #A35cT7mBfo8ChdJfG4 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T09:03:37Z
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@orionwl @stephanlivera @raucao Note how I made it impossible to reply to this tweet: https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1348179486379024384?s=20I get that it's hard to switch. But it definitely is best if a significant number of people stick to it. Network effects matter a lot.
(DIR) Post #A35eOFws3rJEVd7ULQ by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T09:25:11Z
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@stephanlivera @czino I could modify my defunct remindmetweets bot to post birdsite screenshot on here. Would make crosspost discussion easier. *just thinking out loud*
(DIR) Post #A35gAJZPzzFbb0d7CK by htimsxela@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T09:45:01Z
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@stephanlivera I understand what you mean by this post, but this instance *has* been a thing for a couple years now. There are plenty of regular users, and good discussion. The more the merrier though, for sure.
(DIR) Post #A35h58wGCPpL83PbPs by raucao@kosmos.social
2021-01-10T09:04:29Z
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@orionwl @stephanlivera Yes, but only if you don't simply sync stuff from birdsite. I've been here for years and that simply doesn't help and is actually insulting to fedi users when it includes broken username links, birdsite terms, etc.. The best thing you can do is *contribute* real, original content.
(DIR) Post #A35h59fHV1q7NgTYae by FreePietje@x0f.org
2021-01-10T09:55:17Z
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@raucao @orionwl @stephanlivera +1 It's annoying as hell and disrespectful.Various people on here are here precisely because it's not a centralized platform with (thus) 1 gatekeeper like twitter.Sometimes there is something on birdsite worth sharing also on the fediverse, but then be courteous and copy the whole text of that tweet here, so ppl don't need to go to birdsite. I have a high preference that a link to the quoted tweet be included too. (#ContextMatters)
(DIR) Post #A35howxt38bfJW10F6 by czino@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T10:03:38Z
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@djbooth007 @stephanlivera have you already tried the API here? Can only imagine it being much nicer to devs than birdsite. Will dive into it soon 🙂
(DIR) Post #A35jgLbGHsst1JSSq8 by waxwing@x0f.org
2021-01-10T10:24:26Z
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@FreePietje @raucao @orionwl @stephanlivera always seen both sides of this. the web is a tech essentially about linking, so it's silly to somehow not allow it, otoh there is such a thing as spam, and an automated link-to-every-tweet-i-make is that, *especially* considering the main use-case of this site is to build community outside twitter and other corporate social media.Agree copying text and context is a nice compromise, and only if it's a conscious decision, bot/automated is not good.
(DIR) Post #A35lL6bZ2lfALBbAKO by djbooth007@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T10:43:03Z
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@czino @stephanlivera yep, I have @bitcoinedu posting through the Mastodon API.
(DIR) Post #A35lzxiYzTKGePM1PE by FreePietje@x0f.org
2021-01-10T10:50:21Z
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@waxwing Not sure whether to interpret this as a '+1' on my statement or as sth else ...
(DIR) Post #A35mI82hLGTtsvR07M by kekcoin@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T10:53:41Z
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@FreePietje @waxwing Counterpoint; bot/automated is fine *if you mark your account as a bot account*.
(DIR) Post #A35rpfRcfsuao3u9Vg by Jbhoz@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T11:55:44Z
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Or we let them live in their own echo chamber remaining poor while we Bitcoiners take over the world! 😜🤣 @djbooth007 @stephanlivera
(DIR) Post #A364LuFGNeFLQVGLRo by k3tan@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T07:49:02Z
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@stephanlivera Honestly, a better name than "mastodon".
(DIR) Post #A364LuT5YFJ07NjNzs by openoms@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T08:29:31Z
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@k3tan @stephanlivera I like the name "Fediverse" as many use it here
(DIR) Post #A364LulsQOKn3eWOHY by waxwing@x0f.org
2021-01-10T09:08:44Z
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@openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera please focus on the fediverse, not mastodon, i agree. h/t @stevenroose for educating me on this point.
(DIR) Post #A364LuxvhZyXf2A14K by stevenroose@x0f.org
2021-01-10T14:15:57Z
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@waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera Thanks. To be honest I thinknall we need is more people. I use Twidere to browse Twitter and my Mastodon account together. If more people would do that, posting on the Fediverse would have increased reach while early movers don't miss out on content.
(DIR) Post #A365LeKxctKo2hMwmu by TheMadHodler@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T12:25:55Z
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@ibz @pete @verretor @stephanlivera what do you mean by run your own instance/node? New to the mastadon thing
(DIR) Post #A365LeaYgtoMp4fP6G by ibz@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T12:29:12Z
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@TheMadHodler @pete @verretor @stephanlivera The server you are on now (bitcoinhackers.org) is set up by @nvk so you are essentially trusting him not to censor you, etc.You can set up your own if you wish so and migrate there while still keeping your followers. And people from other servers can still follow you.This is the beauty of Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #A365LewXNBONvEwxMG by TheMadHodler@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T14:26:23Z
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@ibz @pete @verretor @stephanlivera @nvk are there instructions somewhere on how to do that? Would like to try just to see how it works
(DIR) Post #A365LfC8RBrwhcFPfc by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T14:27:14Z
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@TheMadHodler @ibz @verretor @stephanlivera @nvk simplest way: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/mastodon
(DIR) Post #A365RjDCPm8ItndZWy by jon@x0f.org
2021-01-10T14:28:17Z
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@stevenroose @waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera more people, and original content -- no to automated crossposting, please
(DIR) Post #A367jayRyulSTENzjU by alanturing@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T14:53:54Z
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@stevenroose @waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera Ooooo, Twidere! Didn't know about that one.
(DIR) Post #A369B8W3Tsx6GvniHg by tzlo@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T15:10:11Z
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@djbooth007 @stephanlivera it doesn’t need a super majority. It just needs 5-10 of the most influential to commit to ditching twit
(DIR) Post #A36AF4MUy4KGV6lnwe by tzlo@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T15:22:05Z
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@pete @orionwl @stephanlivera @raucao posting a fediverse thread on Twitter and disallowing engagement is appealing to entice the normies to come over. Like, do this with triggering @mir_btc id probably click to join if I saw that 🤣
(DIR) Post #A36Are46fitmEkYtN2 by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T15:29:04Z
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@tzlo @orionwl @stephanlivera @raucao @mir_btc I'm thinking of blocking replies, and then having a link to a mastodon copy as "for further discussion"
(DIR) Post #A36AtsmsuEiKTaZbKC by pete@mastodon.petertodd.org
2021-01-10T15:29:29Z
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@tzlo @orionwl @stephanlivera @raucao @mir_btc of course, wait till the mastodon version actually gets some discussion. 😂
(DIR) Post #A36AuX6R0y7TVo1mLo by Talkless@fosstodon.org
2021-01-10T09:21:54Z
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@stephanlivera Well, at first, we need more prelevant people (like we can see in https://hive.one/bitcoin list) posting here. I believe there's application that allows posting to both BirdSite and Fediverse, so suggesting that for them could be a start? @stevenroose arent you using somehing like that? Someone mentioned it here time ago...
(DIR) Post #A36AuXlCZOjHYF6KtU by stevenroose@x0f.org
2021-01-10T15:29:31Z
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@Talkless @stephanlivera Yeah I'm using #Twidere as my client (itsna bit buggy but works) and I have a cross poster enabled.
(DIR) Post #A36B3B9Tzr2W2TZmW8 by stephanlivera@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T09:09:51Z
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@waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stevenroose gotcha, noted re: fediverse term. will use that
(DIR) Post #A36B3BO17ofKlYNOAi by snowkeld@liberdon.com
2021-01-10T14:23:34Z
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@stephanlivera @waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stevenroose Memes incoming of bitcoin taking down the Fed(iverse) ... Wait. That's not right.. A person uses Mastodon to join the fediverse. Saying "use Mastodon" is accurate, or "Join the fediverse" but not really the other way around.
(DIR) Post #A36B3BdcBp8tXvfqU4 by stevenroose@x0f.org
2021-01-10T15:31:06Z
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@snowkeld @stephanlivera @waxwing @openoms @k3tan I don't think saying you "use the #Fediverse" is wrong. And "joining (a) #Mastodon (instanfe)" also makes sense. But yeah the way you suggest is slightly more correct, I agree.
(DIR) Post #A36B62nJWh4SzGZafw by stevenroose@x0f.org
2021-01-10T15:31:37Z
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@jon @waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera 😅
(DIR) Post #A36JerC1S3Nim5F1F2 by openoms@bitcoinhackers.org
2021-01-10T17:07:28Z
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@stevenroose @jon @waxwing @k3tan @stephanlivera @raucao what do you think of my moa.party settings?All new Toots and Boosts are mirrored to Twitter so conversations can start on both places.Only new Tweets and Quoted Tweets are sent to the Fediverse (none of the simple Retweets).
(DIR) Post #A36MT3jnHhZC4K6UIS by jon@x0f.org
2021-01-10T17:39:01Z
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@stevenroose @waxwing @openoms @k3tan @stephanlivera (i'm not harshing on stephan, he knows i'm 100% in his corner <3)
(DIR) Post #A36RSk9WbIS967o920 by snowkeld@liberdon.com
2021-01-10T18:34:57Z
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@stevenroose @stephanlivera @waxwing @openoms @k3tan Too many technicalities. I'm using Tusky to use a Mastodon instance so I can talk to you on the Fediverse 😂More than likely people will find consensus on one word that implies any configuration to get here, and I suspect it will be "Mastodon" even if it's not quite correct.