Post A2fZXRia0dFbx5kpGK by gcupc@anticapitalist.party
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(DIR) Post #A2T9cndatRXUlyF0u8 by kernpanik@chaos.social
2020-12-22T19:41:11Z
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Dear web developers and admins, please stop embedding Google's hideous #ReCaptcha into your websites. Its algorithm is faulty, forcing regular users to click dozens or even hundreds of fire hydrants, bicycles, or traffic lights each day. It puts a 'suspicious activity' flag on users who won't obey to Google's business model - such as people who don't sign into Chrome, use anonymity VPNs, or use browser extensions to suppress common tracking mechanisms. Enough is enough. Stop it.
(DIR) Post #A2T9dR5GEVqL74U9wW by JackMeinoff@salesforce.social
2020-12-22T19:41:33Z
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@kernpanik STOP. TRAINING. ROBOTS.
(DIR) Post #A2TB0X16RNQM817KxE by kernpanik@chaos.social
2020-12-22T19:56:52Z
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@JackMeinoff Exactly! 👍 My strategy at the moment is to stop using all websites on which ReCaptcha shows up.
(DIR) Post #A2TKeftvj9wcqxykxk by mithrandir@pl.wizards.zone
2020-12-22T21:45:03.031898Z
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@kernpanik I've seen captchas on Tor hidden services that were coded in 50 lines of lua and probably worked better than ReCaptcha anyway.
(DIR) Post #A2TLAQ1QIjI0s6cWrw by lain@lain.com
2020-12-22T21:50:46.434227Z
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@kernpanik well, they don't add it for nothing. What other solution is good?
(DIR) Post #A2TLI2j0nobuvye0LA by emilis@cdrom.tokyo
2020-12-22T21:52:09.086134Z
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@lain @kernpanik there are some that are even more annoying like hcaptcha I believe but I’d rather fucking Google eat my data rather than have that shit on every site
(DIR) Post #A2TLqfaOpAQnJ07wUi by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2020-12-22T21:58:25.551176Z
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@kernpanik https://web.archive.org/web/20190615084741/https://kevv.net/you-probably-dont-need-recaptcha/
(DIR) Post #A2TjESIy9Wls0iHkGm by karmanyaahm@social.linux.pizza
2020-12-23T02:19:26Z
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@lain @kernpanik I'm not an expert on this but hCaptcha seems to be a good Google alternative.
(DIR) Post #A2TuMfpspOx1mvnmEK by pj@bitcoinhackers.org
2020-12-23T04:25:09Z
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@kernpanik I agree, it's a horrible trend.
(DIR) Post #A2UJQfSUfcXMd9rYEC by Mummabear@noagendasocial.com
2020-12-23T09:06:01Z
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@kernpanik the AI had to be trained somehow
(DIR) Post #A2UbYB3VOG75pRuBEW by akeno@liberdon.com
2020-12-23T12:29:03Z
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@Mummabear @kernpanik Yep. On slaves like always.
(DIR) Post #A2UbrqY9L7w01UcMjo by m0n5t3r@ps.m0n5t3r.info
2020-12-23T12:32:36.937493Z
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@kernpanik cloudfart's "checking your browser" thing is even worse - I've seen sites where it just reloads in a loop, and I wasn't even on tor, just my normal browsing profile with ublock origin and privacy badger
(DIR) Post #A2UcBhDpjI7csxa1Tc by norztech@misskey.de
2020-12-23T12:23:07.844Z
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@lain@lain.com We have #hCaptcha here at #Misskey.de .I don’t know how good it is, but it seems much better. 🤞 https://www.hcaptcha.com/what-is-hcaptcha-about#captcha #FuckGoogle
(DIR) Post #A2UpTbXus2DVtjqLjs by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-23T15:05:06.971092Z
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@norztech @lain I'll be honest: it's not much less annoying than recaptcha wasyeah, I had to pass it that many times :/
(DIR) Post #A2WTtDpEh1mnVyAqgq by nipos@social.avareborn.de
2020-12-24T10:12:37Z
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@lain @kernpanik A alternative proprietary solution which is not that evil to Tor users but is pretty similar to ReCaptcha is https://hcaptcha.com .The best open-source solution I've found so far is https://captcheck.netsyms.com which looks really user-friendly but I don't know how effective it is.
(DIR) Post #A2WUHZ5NIcJiP0KXqa by mkindred@mastodon.online
2020-12-24T05:41:49Z
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@kernpanik As a developer, I've pledged to stop using all google tools on all my clients' sites. True story: google now flags as malvertising sites who use their privacy-focused competitors (Matomo) for analytics.
(DIR) Post #A2WV0yAgsUC1EfT2S8 by jamalaka@hal9.ooo
2020-12-24T08:55:19Z
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@kernpanikHave you ever had the responsibility for a project that was flooded by spambots? Do you know how much work and how much pain it is, to clean it up?Do you know other measures to distinguish bots from humans or more precisely help against fraud and spam that are as nearly effective and easy to use as ReCaptcha?Instead of telling people what to do, why don't you try to understand their reasons and then provide other ways of archiving their goals.
(DIR) Post #A2WV0z5lSHqY5gAcPg by nipos@social.avareborn.de
2020-12-24T10:25:07Z
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@jamalaka @kernpanik Well,I do have the responsibility.I run a public PeerTube instance and our moderator has to remove several spam videos of the same sort every day.But I'd rather discontinue the service completely than embedding Google spyware bullshit in the page.That's simply a no go.And yes,there are alternatives,for example https://hcaptcha.com which isn't that hostile to Tor users and I think at least a little bit more privacy friendly.And I also like https://captcheck.netsyms.com which is open source and could even be self-hosted.
(DIR) Post #A2WalcZNVgVJcV4yqe by yngmar@social.tchncs.de
2020-12-24T11:29:38Z
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@JackMeinoff @kernpanik On one hand we've got self driving cars, on the other we still have to tell robots over and over again what a pedestrian crossing looks like. 🤔
(DIR) Post #A2WitQwRQSpxVS6SRM by JackMeinoff@salesforce.social
2020-12-24T13:00:43Z
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@yngmar @kernpanik For the work we do the cars should be free
(DIR) Post #A2WmXKEm4U1m9vOLtg by gak@mas.to
2020-12-23T10:27:04Z
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@kernpanik what's the alternative to stopping bots?
(DIR) Post #A2WmXKQpLffWlJ1ygS by wowaname@anime.website
2020-12-24T13:41:32.435400Z
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@gak @kernpanik rethink your question and ask yourself whether youre actually trying to "stop bots" or do something else. captcha isnt an anti-spam solution.
(DIR) Post #A2XCk9AL8ypcOV5lZ2 by rufposten@social.tchncs.de
2020-12-24T12:09:33Z
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@kernpanik Also it's illegal under the scope of GDPR (without consent), because the NID Cookie is set an used for personalized ads. https://policies.google.com/technologies/typesAnd that's no only a law theory. I already forced a huge mobile carrier and a huge car parts reseller in germany to remove it.
(DIR) Post #A2XfmWQSX39tme7HLU by thestrongest@shitposter.club
2020-12-25T00:00:37.277410Z
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@kernpanik Oh and also: The hearing captcha (for blind users) locks you out for "abuse" if you do it more than 3 times a day. Better get new eyes so you can train our AI
(DIR) Post #A2fCeMZbEp6n4psofA by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2020-12-28T15:07:40Z
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@lain try #Sblam: https://sblam.com/en.html@kernpanik
(DIR) Post #A2fSZQbiPVa7PJXdNA by yaaps@banana.dog
2020-12-24T15:47:37Z
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@gak https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alternatives+to+captcha@kernpanik
(DIR) Post #A2fSZQxL76sYUNeu4v by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2020-12-28T15:17:02Z
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@gak alternative to stopping bots:Not stopping bots. Seriously, bots work for ppl so stop attacking them. e.g. I wrote a bot to crawl house listings & look for my criteria. The bot found me the house I bought. Home sellers who used anti-bot sites lost the chance to sell to me.@yaaps #DDG is a lousy service. See http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/
(DIR) Post #A2fTTMwtCR8yHG7Vr6 by abloo@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-12-28T18:20:21.702091Z
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@sobsz @kernpanik I've had 10 capchas before with like 6 fading images each.
(DIR) Post #A2fTW6U2sD5A51vsUy by xenon@sleeping.town
2020-12-22T21:56:01Z
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@kernpanik something that happens on certain tor exits and high traffic VPNs is the captcha will refuse to run. i don't mean that it breaks, i mean it'll say "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. try again later," and you're just, not allowed to use the website (or any website with google's captcha)if your network is sending lots of traffic, you don't get to take their "automated traffic detection" test
(DIR) Post #A2fUiSErui7iywHqs4 by westofer@mstdn.social
2020-12-28T18:32:21Z
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@kernpanik most boosts I have ever seen on a post :ablobcatbongo:
(DIR) Post #A2fUiSSh5JBNfoktQ8 by sss@social.dark-alexandr.net
2020-12-28T18:31:18Z
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@westofer @kernpanik this is a very common problem now-days, and only getting worse.
(DIR) Post #A2fZXRia0dFbx5kpGK by gcupc@anticapitalist.party
2020-12-24T14:44:28Z
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@kernpanik
(DIR) Post #A2hJ9fD3DGYnMkPA9I by resist1984@social.privacytools.io
2020-12-29T14:52:27Z
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@sss @westofer @kernpanik The best way to pressure web admins to not use #CAPTCHA is to not solve them. Don't be an enabler; hit control-w when you see one.
(DIR) Post #A2hJ9fT0FxJwADru0u by sss@social.dark-alexandr.net
2020-12-29T15:31:18Z
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@resist1984 @kernpanik @westofer unfortunately not always alternative exists (
(DIR) Post #A2hiVsGHrbHD4UbdtQ by hansw@qoto.org
2020-12-29T19:44:25Z
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@kernpanik I am very glad that Pixelfed stopped using the Cloudflare one.
(DIR) Post #A2lEaqS9nLxguxS5bc by Skolliagh@mamot.fr
2020-12-25T11:04:42Z
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@rufpostenI'm interested, I always wondered if I could attack (or report to the correct authority in my country) website who use reCaptcha. I'm tired of that shit but I can understand the goal of having a captcha, what I don't understand is website where I have 2FA enabled and they still bother me with that shitty reCaptcha. Also I wonder, is there some open-source alternative that you can self-host? Because I only know alternative like hCaptcha etc that could be as problematic.@kernpanik
(DIR) Post #A2lEaqmiYuPNwj4Vea by rufposten@social.tchncs.de
2020-12-25T12:02:52Z
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@Skolliagh @kernpanik Of course, just write an email (to CNIL?) naming website, last date you checked and screenshot/HAR-file of the NID cookie, that should do it. I wrote a tool for generating such letters (including a first warning to the website owner). It features several trackers. Currently it's only german but we plan to make it available in other languages. Probably you can get a idea of the wording and argumentation by using a translation tool. https://www.tracktor.it/
(DIR) Post #A36w6QzKGohhrtsajg by webbienat@mamot.fr
2021-01-11T00:18:17Z
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@JackMeinoff @kernpanik and they call it Deep Learning...
(DIR) Post #A36w9sKd41IzXeU70q by JackMeinoff@salesforce.social
2021-01-11T00:18:58Z
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@webbienat @kernpanik We should get the cars for free then!
(DIR) Post #A3FqeN9BepI8WQJJqK by whatagainst@freedomofpress.rocks
2021-01-13T23:20:22Z
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@kernpanik de-googlification seems like a massive task, but day by day I move closer to not using it at all
(DIR) Post #AAe6BMA4GvQJV9HOFM by genofire@chaos.social
2021-08-24T09:21:27Z
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@nipos @lain @kernpanik we should not replace on central service with an other (hcaptcha)thanks for the OpenSource alternative