Post A2SCUJSLKRmjYQfCAC by deavmi@mstdn.io
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(DIR) Post #A2QsYb0Xp0WWuHSwvQ by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-21T17:20:44Z
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Soon soon @zhoreeq @acetone
(DIR) Post #A2SCUJIPvLqT3e1Ggy by acetone@soc.phreedom.club
2020-12-22T08:26:08.669743Z
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@deavmi wow I'll lose my subnet 10.69.69.0/24 :ablobcatcry: @zhoreeq
(DIR) Post #A2SCUJSLKRmjYQfCAC by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T08:38:45Z
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@acetone @zhoreeq Yeah but no biggy. You can still get 10.18.69.0/24 AND you can have a host in there as 10.18.69.69 ;)
(DIR) Post #A2SHZjsl0KkMjRQQO8 by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:35:49.518553Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone what in the actual fuck? registering private subnets?
(DIR) Post #A2SHcarT03svchBOS0 by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:36:18Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone Yes. That's how many community run networks manage allocations
(DIR) Post #A2SHtRTr8Av3S5AnEO by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:39:23.161802Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone so basically defeating the purpose of private networks, yeahyou know, I'm suddenly starting to understand people who say snatching `200::/7` was a mistake
(DIR) Post #A2SI3uGqwb8tdh54ZE by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:41:14Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone I think you fundamentally misunderatand thr point og private networks then.Nowhere does it state by standards that registration to manage your own private internet is an anti-point of private networks.It's a network regardless. It needs to be managed. Go take a look at countless community networks that employ IP routing such as CTWUG and Freifunk (some of them)
(DIR) Post #A2SINLAp91JGZwWlxw by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:44:47.190640Z
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@deavmi @acetone @zhoreeq in all due seriousness, that kind of global allocations quickly turns out to be highly persistent and being relied upon, and one quickly gets to the point where you just can't change anythingalso basically excludes me from the list of people who can join such a network since I utilize private networks for my own purposes quite a lotmaking this utilize IPv4 commonly used by admins is not a great idea, really
(DIR) Post #A2SIZGcLuRQlvK5gyO by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:46:55Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone We have IPv6 enabled too on the fd00::/8 range first of all.Second of all there are many globally spanning private networks. Pretty sure the Portuguese embassy uses one - so I don't see the first point as valid - there are many ranges to go around for private networks. I don't use 10.0.0.0/8 for anythint besides CRXN at home and neither does my residence at university. They went with the sane choice of 192.168/16
(DIR) Post #A2SImDXqe1xM9t9vw8 by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:49:15Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone Highly persistent is only meant for region to region as a future plan to break up babeld clusters and reduce overall protocol traffic to regions only (although we can fo regional aggregate prefix sharing on the regional border routers (backbones))There is gonna be some persistence somewhere but I wouldn't see that as bad. The current internet seems to be working well with it 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #A2SItrrP9RF5DnxFE8 by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:50:39Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone also ```unshare``` 😉Just start a new network stack
(DIR) Post #A2SJKLShiR8EYh1hh2 by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:55:25Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone I think maybe we fundementally disagree then cause I am a proponent of projects like dn42
(DIR) Post #A2SJTj1BVIvuDscwbI by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:57:09.376089Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone > Network addresses are assigned in the 172.20.0.0/14 rangeoh nice, interferes with docker
(DIR) Post #A2SJXb0nDHDuYAI1JI by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:57:47Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone I don't use cocker.But if you do use it you could take it's underlying use if namespaces and then simply start a new non conflicting network stack. Ez
(DIR) Post #A2SJaFuo6dTXzNl4O8 by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:58:19Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone also this network existed long before docker was heavily popularized atleast from my knowledge
(DIR) Post #A2SJaTGuRlsbPhCP8y by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:58:22.276061Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone oh nice, relying on linux-specific stuff
(DIR) Post #A2SJcfO2NIOFZBa18S by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:58:45Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone umh. Well yeah...Imagine using any other platform
(DIR) Post #A2SJeuhgOjhDeMqAYS by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T09:59:09Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone referring to ctwug which uses the dn42 range too.
(DIR) Post #A2SJjDKt476mazEEam by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T09:59:57.163198Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone um yeah, *BSD are totally not a thingLinux monoculture bad
(DIR) Post #A2SJlIqvWcO2HiD8wS by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T10:00:18Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone maybe BSD should invest in namespaces then
(DIR) Post #A2SK3FMFG2AYerPr8q by tdemin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-22T10:03:34.568284Z
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@deavmi @zhoreeq @acetone great idea, let's make every OS out there as complex as Linux is for no great reasonPS: OK, FreeBSD jails appear to offer pretty much what namespaces do (in terms of networking as well)
(DIR) Post #A2SKQet2VXYoUkv2Cu by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T10:07:46Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone I think namespaces are a good idea
(DIR) Post #A2TF20G7bUesva6EDo by deavmi@mstdn.io
2020-12-22T20:42:00Z
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@tdemin @zhoreeq @acetone @caskd