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(DIR) Post #A2Oiu8xBQ4dKPYbrv6 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:23:03Z
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I saw a toot a while ago to organize an online #christmas thing with the #fediverse and I love that idea! Are we doing anything with it??
(DIR) Post #A2OiycAuiVCmCMAFHM by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:23:46Z
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@Gina That was @paleobiologist on here but she randomly deleted her account a while ago :(
(DIR) Post #A2Oj0JcAh8OjDIizqK by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:23:59Z
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@brandon Oh no :(
(DIR) Post #A2OjRpl1IT9Qilz9UG by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:29:02Z
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@brandon Oh no :(Well I think it would still be nice to organize something. Any ideas anyone?
(DIR) Post #A2OjSx39fXejd006pk by Erik@mastodon.utwente.nl
2020-12-20T16:29:02Z
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@brandon @Gina Let's still do it!
(DIR) Post #A2Ok4wXO1S8d2jG0PY by Erik@mastodon.utwente.nl
2020-12-20T16:36:16Z
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@Gina @brandon A gather.town meetup? A speeddate session with breakout rooms to meet some new people? A meeting with breakout rooms to find people with common interests? A meeting with breakout rooms to find people at the other spectrum of your own bubble? A meeting room with breakout rooms like the 'human library' initiative? A common format for a shared 'end-of-year'-message with a certain hashtag, with favourites? Making a poem (for someone, or in general)? A bingo? A pubquiz? A crazy 88?
(DIR) Post #A2Ok7eE2YwUB7NUva4 by lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com
2020-12-20T16:36:23Z
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@Gina Some years ago someone organised a secret Santa. You could register, and then you'd have to send a gift (digital or otherwise, but of low monetary value) to a randomly chosen person. And you would receive one from someone else. It was pretty fun. :) @brandon
(DIR) Post #A2OkMC6nNmdwG72sW8 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:39:06Z
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@lertsenem @Gina Unfortunately I think that organizing a secret santa for this year is a little too late, what with the holiday season generally causing shipping delays, and then adding COVID to the mix
(DIR) Post #A2OkPZAw4r8gfTadUG by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:40:02Z
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@Erik @brandon haha wow, so many options. I have no idea, something Discord-like? So people can chat, videocall etc. I've never heard of gather.town btw, looks cool too!
(DIR) Post #A2OkZtkASZb9M4zoG0 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:41:53Z
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@lertsenem @brandon That's cool too! With Christmas being the loneliest time of the year, I'd love a way to just hang out and chat.
(DIR) Post #A2OkdWgk7XY90c7kem by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:42:23Z
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@brandon @lertsenem lol yeah that too. Most of our post offices are closed due to lockdown :(
(DIR) Post #A2Okfu2SHBGK0WPfPM by tychi@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:40:18Z
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@Erik @Gina @brandon a jackbox session of lie swatter that supports up to 100 players
(DIR) Post #A2OkfuHhMVSIlnXqAS by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:42:58Z
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@tychi @Erik @brandon A what now? 😂
(DIR) Post #A2OlDWH38fDG9HGkUK by tychi@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T16:49:02Z
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@Gina @Erik @brandon I swear it's a sentence 😅It's a game where people have to guess if a statement is true or false. Everyone can play with a web browser, only the host needs to own the game.
(DIR) Post #A2OnAMAMSlThq5lCDI by rtn@social.weho.st
2020-12-20T17:10:48Z
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@Gina @brandon Maybe just find a common tag and post some random stuff? Personally I'd like to know more what people eat during xmas.
(DIR) Post #A2OrmaLGbaZ2crLTyS by db1047@troet.cafe
2020-12-20T18:02:34Z
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@Gina was it mobilizion? https://joinmobilizon.org/en/
(DIR) Post #A2Ov08Y9265iLWWSi8 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:38:40Z
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Would people be comfortable using Discord? Because that's the only solution I can think of right now that's free, can host a large number of people, and has guaranteed chat and video quality. Alternatives are very welcome!
(DIR) Post #A2Ov37paA4xmzB6V4i by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:39:00Z
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Would people be comfortable using #Discord? Because that's the only solution I can think of right now that's free, can host a large number of people, and has guaranteed chat and video quality. #Foss alternatives are very welcome!
(DIR) Post #A2OvCU84cuNekUDSQC by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:40:54Z
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I'm a bit too lazy to set up a Mumble, Matrix or Rocketchat + Jitsi server on Christmas, but if anyone else wants to that that would be an option too.
(DIR) Post #A2OvGKipXnCKjPFAky by thatgeoguy@coales.co
2020-12-20T18:41:02Z
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@Gina If you're looking for a FOSS alternative, you can sign up to use #Matrix on element.io. It has guaranteed chat and video quality (although for large group chats it's really just jitsi, which could be a benefit as even people who aren't registered on matrix can join the jitsi video chats with those who are).
(DIR) Post #A2OvIb29rtqNttMaJs by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:41:28Z
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I'm a bit too lazy to set up a #Mumble, #Matrix or #Rocketchat + #Jitsi server during #Christmas, but if anyone else wants to that that would be an option too.
(DIR) Post #A2OvKflHGHzT8tSQPw by letterus@kirche.social
2020-12-20T18:41:41Z
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@Gina I think some ppl like using workadventu.re and I heard it is expected to scale very well, because it results in many small Jitsi Rooms.
(DIR) Post #A2OvN805F29LIpYObA by wonderingdane@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:42:46Z
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@Gina There are probably those who do not want to use Discord, but it is the easiest.It's been a long time since I used Mumble, so I don't know how well the chat would work.
(DIR) Post #A2OvQkJfEyuR0QRCDY by narF@mstdn.fr
2020-12-20T18:43:21Z
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@Gina have you heard of gather.town? It's really cool for large group, to avoid 1-2 people holding up the conversation.
(DIR) Post #A2OvTFENGtmBSu9ezY by joshfowler@social.librem.one
2020-12-20T18:43:41Z
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@Gina Depending on the amount of people, jit.si is pretty good?
(DIR) Post #A2OvWDtWhE1WBop7gG by n1vux@mastodon.radio
2020-12-20T18:43:49Z
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@Gina 3 of our local FLOSS #FOSS groups have been happy with meet.jit.si service for virtual meetings. (It's a spin-out from Atlassian; the FLOSS base underneath 8x8 commercial conferencing.) I've considered spinning up a DigitalOcean appliance of JitSi of my own but haven't needed more than the free one *yet*.
(DIR) Post #A2OvbdYCjcc5CzQq5w by z428@social.tchncs.de
2020-12-20T18:44:02Z
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@Gina Maybe some public Jitsi instance without having to run one on your own...?
(DIR) Post #A2Ovg4XgK4ay50InxY by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:44:32Z
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@narF I just learned about it, and it looks so cool. Unfortunately its only free up to 25 users and the pricing becomes a bit complicated after that.
(DIR) Post #A2OvhuTMjSsbQd9y3k by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:45:25Z
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@n1vux I have a long and painful past with Jitsi. It's great when it works, but I wouldn't call it a decent Discord alternative, especially since it doesn't do chatrooms.
(DIR) Post #A2OvjCszl0uopHlZ7A by splatt9990@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:45:28Z
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@Gina most FOSS purists won't be okay with it, but if you're looking for a turn-key solution that's free I'm not sure if there's much better. If you're open to self-hosting stuff xmpp and matrix are good solutions. You can also just pay to host one of those for you.
(DIR) Post #A2Ovlh7AL5kr9pa3aC by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:46:33Z
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@splatt9990 I think Matrix + Riot (+Jitsi? Or is video included in the standard build nowadays?) might be a good alternative if someone else feels like setting up a server :)
(DIR) Post #A2Ovn5MjexJCf1Whn6 by narF@mstdn.fr
2020-12-20T18:47:09Z
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@Gina Yeah, we used it a few times. You pay for more people, and they you can also pay for extra features. It worked super well for about 50 peoples.
(DIR) Post #A2Ovt5VS39JgpmSv1U by ij@nerdculture.de
2020-12-20T18:48:37Z
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@Gina I think there is a ton of available Jitsi servers out there already... No need to invest that setup time yourself... :)
(DIR) Post #A2Ow5J4NRo3ANJd03k by splatt9990@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:50:47Z
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@Gina prosody (xmpp) is pretty easy to set up yourself (at least compared to matrix) and includes video chat. I believe if you set it up to do so though matrix comes with video chat (its p2p so you need a relay server for NAT traversal.)
(DIR) Post #A2Ow6lEQE9Ys0X1IDA by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:50:51Z
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@ij I honestly think Jitsi by itself doesn't make a good Discord alternative. The chatrooms functionality in Discord is especially nice. Matrix comes close though.
(DIR) Post #A2OwAUTeSg03CevDWK by letterus@kirche.social
2020-12-20T18:51:45Z
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@ij @Gina There is a high performance cluster of ffmuc at https://meet.ffmuc.net f.e.
(DIR) Post #A2OwJDwPJPSEWVXJx2 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:53:17Z
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@Gina I would never use discord. It's proprietary garbage. You can join #matrix using an user friendly client like element.io. It has Jitsi implemented for video so it just works out of the box. Although the best option would be to self host your own matrix server, that way you don't slow down anyone else's server
(DIR) Post #A2OwSfQ4W7mQLuuluK by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:55:02Z
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@werwolf Do you perhaps know if I were to selfhost Matrix, would I have to host a separate Jitsi server as well? Or does Matrix come with a built-in Jitsi server nowadays? Haven't looked at in ages 😅
(DIR) Post #A2OwjaDF85od7tyq36 by lopeztel@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T18:58:05Z
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@Gina meet.ji.si ? also I didn't know about gather.town looks like fun
(DIR) Post #A2OxFSNVnE8O5xywOO by ajmartinez@social.librem.one
2020-12-20T19:03:50Z
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@Gina an open Matrix room shouldn’t be too hard eh? Admittedly have not done large group video, but chat works well. If just chat suffices there’s the old faithful: IRC.
(DIR) Post #A2OxiI7izxu8gmLa1Q by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:09:04Z
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@ajmartinez Matrix or Rocketchat with Jitsi would be the most convenient alternative, I think. I have zero time to set up servers, so if anyone wants to volunteer that would be great!
(DIR) Post #A2OxpuKpKOq5E66hyS by stchris@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:10:26Z
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@Gina @ajmartinez how about just using https://jitsi.debian.social/ ?
(DIR) Post #A2Oxrp2A0ZcDMfHyts by bLeDy@qoto.org
2020-12-20T19:10:28Z
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@Gina Zulip is cool, but it doesn't do video, so you might need Jitsi too.
(DIR) Post #A2OxuBzPd9lJ8i8MWe by duponin@udongein.xyz
2020-12-20T19:11:17.469732Z
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@Gina I may hijack my ISP (non profit) BBB 👀
(DIR) Post #A2OySJDjFiuTPa69ya by adfeno@ecodigital.social
2020-12-20T19:17:14Z
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@Gina #BigBlueButton: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/BigBlueButton
(DIR) Post #A2OyVwAIugrT47E6NM by pavot@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:18:00Z
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@Gina @werwolf its a separate server, as well as a TURN server for 1 on 1 calls.
(DIR) Post #A2OyZsFjOyBQ5bdsi8 by neil@glasgow.social
2020-12-20T19:18:37Z
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@Gina @ajmartinez Can't you just create a room on matrix.org? I have an open Matrix server (and Element web install) at https://matrix.glasgow.social you are welcome to use, I'll even join you 😜
(DIR) Post #A2OyduIBlCh7ZciNFY by neil@glasgow.social
2020-12-20T19:19:29Z
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@Gina @werwolf I think it spins something up on meet.jit.si if you haven't configured your own
(DIR) Post #A2OygzwtBbjvzAE4hs by adfeno@ecodigital.social
2020-12-20T19:19:55Z
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@Gina Use #XMPP / #Jabber for the persistent group channels (nonscheduled chat), for the reasons I wrote on https://libreplanet.org/wiki/XMPP .
(DIR) Post #A2OykhXfZ2EE3YCBKS by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:20:09Z
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@Gina Less popular options are Wire and Signal
(DIR) Post #A2OynoBLKk2xWCEZpA by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:20:23Z
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@pavot @werwolf This triggers my #Jitsi PTSD.
(DIR) Post #A2Oz1uHxQSeYVo3CTY by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:23:49Z
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@neil @ajmartinez That might also be an option!Wait, does Riot not exist anymore?
(DIR) Post #A2Oz5fhBcmHKPWe8eG by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:24:30Z
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@neil @ajmartinez That might also be an option! Wait, does Riot not exist anymore?Edit: ah I see that is now Element.
(DIR) Post #A2OzRWmLSQWR7uTtJI by pavot@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:28:27Z
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@Gina #mumble is EXTREMELY easy to set up, like as easy as installing a package in debian.#matrix is a lot of work, but the rooms function well enough that you could just set up a free room on a free server and it would work well.
(DIR) Post #A2OzlEAKN2CdBs5mi0 by ajmartinez@social.librem.one
2020-12-20T19:31:29Z
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@Gina @neil yeah I’d not bother setting a server up, just make a room on one that already exists.
(DIR) Post #A2P0fShrUkLaVMamxM by edgren@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T19:42:09Z
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@Gina I have an Mumble server since a few month back. I'm the only user in the since then, haha 😟 Discord are awesome, but I dislike that you can't self-host it. And I don't feel comfortable with Discord, so I installed Mumble on my own server, waiting and trying to get people to it 😅
(DIR) Post #A2P4JBKLpU7o3AE7ns by bpepple@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T20:22:54Z
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@Gina I'm fine with Discord considering Xmas is less than a week away, and the FOSS alternatives tend to be lacking in comparison (features, ease of setup, etc.)
(DIR) Post #A2P4m3Sk9IQO3Xv6Om by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T20:28:09Z
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@Gina honestly I’d go for Discord. I’m not a hardliner. Some are.Matrix room on element.io is another option. Very little configuration needed because they got it hosted. Also FOSS.
(DIR) Post #A2P6bp0HFj1ADyqyMy by gneep@fosstodon.org
2020-12-20T20:48:37Z
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@Gina Take a look at https://www.wonder.me/ - it's free, browser-based, supports audio and video, allows up to 1500 participants, and allows organic conversation bubbles to form like an in-person party
(DIR) Post #A2Pon76agdeBXE08MC by geekgonecrazy@fosstodon.org
2020-12-21T05:03:48Z
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@Gina how many people do you think? I might be able to help out with a Rocket.Chat instance.
(DIR) Post #A2Punygi4FFvRXgtbE by n1vux@mastodon.radio
2020-12-21T06:11:08Z
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@Gina sure, if you need multiple break-outs in a single event-experience, that's a different tool. I'll be interested what you find for your use-case.
(DIR) Post #A2Q3ShVddo0jffRQqe by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-21T07:48:11Z
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@geekgonecrazy no idea really, it's hard to plan for. Might be 2, might be 200. That would be great!Btw Aaron I was looking at Owncast the other day and saw your name as one of the contributors. Super cool that you're supporting all these projects :)
(DIR) Post #A2Q3wpoLL8uE6cYkLY by tobykurien@mastodon.social
2020-12-21T07:53:32Z
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@Gina @pavot @werwolf haha I LOL'd at this because I just deleted Jitsi off my server after an update broke it and I spent too many hours trying to fix it and now I realise I too have Jitsi PTSD 😭
(DIR) Post #A2Q4NeMW0xluPtKVM0 by geekgonecrazy@fosstodon.org
2020-12-21T07:58:29Z
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@Gina who is leading the effort? I think I could provide a Rocket.Chat instance for at least a couple of months for a few hundred no problem. 😁I try and help out on projects I think will help. Owncast seems like it’s going to fill a real need.
(DIR) Post #A2Q5P4BTavGckIPD2u by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-21T08:09:57Z
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@tobykurien @pavot @werwolf Hahaha you're not alone. We used it at my previous job of about 65 non-techie users for international calls. The tickets still haunt me.
(DIR) Post #A2SUWWlcbmHiajt1zU by senfcall@chaos.social
2020-12-22T12:00:46Z
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@Gina have you tried #BigBlueButton yet? We use it to run our service and people regularly do #videoconferences with up to 200 people (however not with everybody using video at the same time). It also has an integrated chat, pad and presentation view, so has a similar feature set to many proprietary solutions. You can test it without registration at https://senfcall.de/en/.
(DIR) Post #A2SVF2jF8YKGSc06T2 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-12-22T12:08:53Z
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@senfcall It would be in the best interest of my mental health if I never had to install a videoconference server ever again 😅
(DIR) Post #A2SWBptCW75Pj1h1Xc by utzer@social.yl.ms
2020-12-22T12:16:34Z
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@Gina you can also use @senfcall for that, not limited to testing. 😉
(DIR) Post #A2SbpS1VAZE53mHirY by phel@toot.cafe
2020-12-22T13:22:39Z
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@Gina @senfcall Well good thing you can simply use senfcall!
(DIR) Post #A2SnvL8StD7gsy7H3w by Divert@social.politicaconciencia.org
2020-12-22T15:38:16Z
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@GinaMatrix has a jitsi plugin that allows video conferences within a chat room. @ajmartinez
(DIR) Post #A2T6DiPEuIzTRfsG6C by imattau@dcentralisedmedia.com
2020-12-22T18:17:46.288180Z
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@Gina this thread needs a hashtag… maybe #afediversechristmas 🤔
(DIR) Post #A2VIbENjm9DB2j4Sn2 by wiecek@point.community
2020-12-23T20:23:25Z
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I'm sorry, what about #Jitsi?