Post A1MnWZSwCAu89q4Z1s by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
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(DIR) Post #A1JD1oMoYzZHZWMW3M by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T01:56:25.241743Z
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Here is a nice clear scientific explanation of why masks DO NOT SAVE LIVES!!! It’s a fact checking type article by a physician. https://townhall.com/columnists/tednoel/2020/07/03/masks-will-save-lives-fact-check-mostly-false-n2571817I’d like to see less misinformation about masks on this platform and more information as to what we’re going to do about the mess that believing the msm narrative has got us into. Step back just a bit and check out how the picture changes when you start to realise that many other things have been happening in the world while we’ve all been glued to the health panic.People chanting obvious nonsense repeatedly such as TWAW is part of how we got here. Let’s not make the same mistakes that those cultists do. 💗
(DIR) Post #A1JD1oVg22eo10Varo by Lococoir@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T02:31:47.116502Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna enough spam, you’re not changing anyone’s minds here
(DIR) Post #A1JDN2KVqRfexTPGAi by I_XXist@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T02:18:10.615824Z
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“Townhall.com is the #1 conservative website. Townhall.com pulls together political commentary and analysis from over 100 leading columnists and opinion leaders, research from 100 partner organizations, conservative talk-radio, and a community of millions of grassroots conservatives.”Townhall is owned by Salem Media Group, which owns numerous right-leaning Christian based radio stations across the USA. According to Open Secrets Salem Media Group donates 100% to Republicans and right-leaning PACS. The website is funded through online advertising.@LaylaAlexandrovna
(DIR) Post #A1JDN2U5GrKLR9su5g by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T02:22:10.778200Z
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@I_XXist Pay attention to what the article actually says. Masks aren’t a right/left thing but a health thing which transcends partisan politics. Also, this is a bit of humour written by an intelligent doctor with thirty-six years experience. Please don’t ignore the massive ton of other evidence against masks that I’ve already posted today (and previously). Thanks.As I’ve repeadedly asked here and elsewhere, if you have viable evidence that masks are useful in any way, please post. I’ve posted multiple studies and meta summaries but no one is able to provide evidence that masks make any valuable difference in disease transmission as this doctor states.
(DIR) Post #A1JDN2nE7gdiOWqBvc by frogsdottir@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T02:44:12.393871Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @I_XXist Just curious, what exactly would convince you? What is not fake news, or a plot, or a giant conspiracy? Serious question
(DIR) Post #A1KXmIn1yc3BUN1wsS by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T02:53:16.988525Z
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@frogsdottir @I_XXist Pam, if you were really serious, you’d post a scientific study with RCTs showing the difference that masks have made under any situation. This is rhetorical. Once again, I’ve posted this information. As yet, there is nothing to contradict it - these numerous studies. Why would I change my mind when no one has been able to post anything that shows masks save lives? Not one person has even been able to state a coherent argument. It’s always just an order that I should shut up and wear a mask! Sorry but none of this convinces me. What would it take to convince you that this is a fraud? Even the WHO (as I mention in the link below) has admitted that the reason they are promoting them is because of the lobbying by mask manufacturers. What more do you need? https://spinster.xyz/@LaylaAlexandrovna/posts/A1IxuYGMEubMLZALIG (This post contains multiple links to multiple links including many easy summaries for lay people as well as how to tell if a study is proving its point or not.)
(DIR) Post #A1KXmJ42xLf4L8zXOq by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T03:17:21.939228Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna You clearly did not read the article from the CDC I posted or follow up on any of the references given at the end. Here is one of a number of references from the CDC article: Efficacy of face masks, neck gaiters and face shields for reducing the expulsion of simulated cough-generated aerosolshttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.05.20207241v3
(DIR) Post #A1KYHCU9SzP0uevvSS by frogsdottir@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T18:13:10.410923Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @I_XXist It seriously isn’t rhetorical. What Sylvie has posted are scientific articles, generally peer-reviewed. What you are posting are opinion pieces and posts from right-leaning sites and other non-evidence based sources. You’ve been given evidence, and seem to prefer not to see it. If you don’t want to wear a mask just say so and be done with it.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWVc0WVmaCoHkbw by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T03:49:43.596586Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna Community Use Of Face Masks And COVID-19: Evidence From A Natural Experiment Of State Mandates In The UShttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32543923/
(DIR) Post #A1MnWVqXeTPOvt5MGW by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T04:13:04.911996Z
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@Sylvie I wouldn’t call this definitive: “The findings suggest that requiring face mask use in public could help in mitigating the spread of COVID-19. “ the findings are co-relative rather than causative.The differences are statistically insignificant. This doesn’t stand in any opposition to the multiple studies (including their synopses) that I have posted. Each link I have posted contains further links to studies on the subject. None of the other articles listed are regarding how masks make a difference. I have to go with the preponderance of evidence which includes the opinions of my own medical contacts. In any case, the point here really is that the divisions around masks are a smokescreen for the real issues. Once you see that you’ll see the patriarchal agenda shining through.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWW3It1cJZT3Y9o by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T19:12:25.254365Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna So let’s talk about the real issues. Some of the actual smokescreens we’re dealing with are transgender ideology, the idea that we live in a “post-racial” society and that the free market will solve all of our problems. There is no patriarchal agenda behind mask requirements. Both men and women are required to wear masks.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWWGm4wOOFFMJ9c by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T19:33:16.584629Z
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@Sylvie There is a patriarchy agenda to cause harm to both women and men. It’s always like that. And I’ve been saying from the beginning that masks are a red herring to distract us from seeing the real problems and to shut us up. There are lots of posts I’ve made on the cov, going back to my trip to Thailand which was in March 2020. There might have been a month or so where I wasn’t talking about the issues this is meant to cover up. I’ve also made loads of posts about related matters including the tra connection on my FB page. https://www.facebook.com/leonie.zurakowsky/ I’ve been concerned in particular how all of these patriarchy agendas affect women most severely.I reviewed the online info provided by the abstracts for the links you provided me with last night and I don’t find one of them that shows definitively that masks prevent the spread of viruses, in particular SARS COV 2. Most of the trials are using masks only, not humans and do not appear to have used randomized controlled trials. At most they only suggest and estimate, they don’t come near the level of proof that investing in a masking program should require. Also we know from the WHO itself that the main reasons they’ve been promoting masks is because of lobbying from mask manufacturers. There is other evidence showing that countries promoted their mask mandates after the peak number of fatalities had initially passed. Right now the only source I have handy for that would be condemned as right wing because it’s easy to forget how all of these is far beyond mere partisan politics. I know I’ve seen the same charts elsewhere - so much information. But we can get a general idea by looking at how the countries that have locked down and masked mandatorily have still had massive increases in positive test results.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32543923/ corelation not causation, low numbershttps://www.nber.org/papers/w27891“We estimate the impact of mask mandates and other non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPI) on COVID-19 case growth in Canada, including regulations on businesses and gatherings, school closures, travel and self-isolation, and long-term care homes. (Too many variables) “We partially account for behavioral responses using Google mobility data. Our identification approach exploits variation in the timing of indoor face mask mandates staggered over two months in the 34 public health regions in Ontario, Canada’s most populous province. We find that, in the first few weeks after implementation, mask mandates are associated with a reduction of 25 percent in the weekly number of new COVID-19 cases. Additional analysis with province-level data provides corroborating evidence. Counterfactual policy simulations suggest that mandating indoor masks nationwide in early July could have reduced the weekly number of new cases in Canada by 25 to 40 percent in mid-August, which translates into 700 to 1,100 fewer cases per week. “ (And yet what they are calling cases have continued to climb resulting in another lockdown.)http://ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdfSmall sample area, looked at only TEN DAY PERIOD. Used synthetic control group= modelled statistics rather than humanshttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32931726“ We found the type of mask worn was not independently associated with infection and that contacts who always wore masks were more likely to practice social distancing. Maintaining >1 m distance from a person with COVID-19, having close contact for <15 minutes, and frequent handwashing were independently associated with lower risk for infection. Our findings support consistent wearing of masks, handwashing, and social distancing to protect against COVID-19. “ Includes other factors rather than masks alone. Other studies listed here contradict: https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32467353Multiple types of PPE used in extreme family circumstances. No control. None of these are actual randomized controlled trials but rather, examine existing situations.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32673300Based on the word of two hair stylists/1 continued
(DIR) Post #A1MnWWPzWflUhpffWK by eigenstein@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T19:53:45.947328Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @Sylvie I fail to see how a mask “shuts me up.” If a mask can do ANYTHING to halt the spread of the virus, I’m all for it. Fighting against masks seems like the real red herring here.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWWfEbzxTT6nqHQ by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T20:18:19.358653Z
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@eigenstein @Sylvie It covers your mouth and makes it difficult to speak and hear. It breaks communication. It covers over half the face and humans rely on facial expressions more than actual words. What could be more obvious? I’ve suggested that people read the studies I’ve posted to see the proven harms of masks and you are still thinking that masks save lives. Please read them or state an actual fact before arguing. This is a good one as it also shows how to tell what makes up a good scientific study, using critical thinking skills. https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts/I don’t know what more it will take but this is the level of cognitive dissonance we are experiencing today. The virus panic is largely a hoax. Much more terrible things to fear are in the pipeline. Check out the US bills that are in the pipeline, just posted here by one of our excellent researchers. https://spinster.xyz/@CharlytheWorm/posts/A1KTA9sPxw6x5KqkhUThere is masses of information available about this. Here’s a good place to start: https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/ Covid is the least of our concerns now, except in dispelling the myth that it is destroying the entire world. It is not. It’s essentially over, just being kept alive by testing people with any sort of cold symptom and others using a test that was not designed to determine viral infections. https://alethonews.com/2020/11/03/dr-fauci-admits-the-pcr-test-for-coronavirus-is-all-but-useless-as-it-is-administered-in-the-us/ This same test is being used all over the world, producing up to 90% false positives. Now let’s go to looking at the MEN behind this hideous agenda of which trangenderism and transhumanism are part. Jennifer Bilek recently makes the connection (in a paywalled essay tho) that Klaus Scwabb and Martine Rothblatt are up each others butts! Yep, the nasty billionaires are working together on some things and competing on others and they can’t wait to bring down the plebs. There must be ways that we can get ahead of them!
(DIR) Post #A1MnWXHWJeaDNqiPxI by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T20:35:07.510196Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @eigenstein @Sylvie Covid is real. I like Professor Sucharit Backdi on Triggernometry interview about being LIED to by MSM media about certain facts:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnpnBYgGAREThis lockdown issue reminds me of gender radicals. No discussion allowed?
(DIR) Post #A1MnWXbj6WkKOWAYS0 by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T21:19:58.380469Z
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@CharlytheWorm @LaylaAlexandrovna @Sylvie @eigenstein There is plenty of discussion though? People have been protesting in the streets about not wearing masks unlike with gender radicals, where women have taken to courts to raise funds and fight this crap.If someone is arguing that hand washing isn’t helpful for doctor’s patients but it’s already been proven to be, how long are you supposed to talk to someone about it before it’s considered stifling their speech? Also people can now buy clear face shields along with masks and I’ve even seen a specific mask designed that only covers the nose and mouth in clear plastic, allowing people to breathe and talk basically normally. Lock downs vary by country and community so I think that being more specific about which lock downs, where and what actually are the consequences for breaking a lock down if you’re actually going to argue about them. Aside from that it’s just a bunch of words being thrown at each other.This is a funny conversation.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWXs27tn3D5nZrs by Mariposa@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T22:05:43.543689Z
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@BCLADY <If someone is arguing that hand washing isn’t helpful for doctor’s patients but it’s already been proven to be, how long are you supposed to talk to someone about it before it’s considered stifling their speech?Layla has already argued that handwashing is ineffective. “I personally don’t understand fully why the massive emphasis even on hand washing when it also is of dubious value in preventing disease spread.”https://spinster.xyz/notice/A0eyz3jOxYlfhnZAdE @CharlytheWorm @LaylaAlexandrovna @Sylvie @eigenstein
(DIR) Post #A1MnWY7zAaYC0ZGJjU by BCLADY@spinster.xyz
2020-11-18T22:19:15.663512Z
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@Mariposa @CharlytheWorm @LaylaAlexandrovna @Sylvie @eigenstein Oh wow. Ok. This has to be satire now. So Layla a troll? Awe that makes me sad for Sylvie. Hand washing is important because germs are real but I suppose that next I’ll hear that germs aren’t because you can’t see them even though anyone who’s taken a basic biology class has seen them. Well this moved from being entertaining to boring. Ima go talk about potato sacs some more.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWYYZZjolL1hYAq by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T00:36:03.177430Z
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@BCLADY @Mariposa @CharlytheWorm @LaylaAlexandrovna @eigenstein The idea that masks have no infection control value and are just being promoted so that some companies can make money is a conspiracy theory. Plain and simple. I can’t believe some people are rejecting hand washing and vaccines as well.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWYn6hhRa46V9pQ by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T00:38:10.514162Z
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@Sylvie @BCLADY @LaylaAlexandrovna @Mariposa @eigenstein The Great Reset over covid is not a conspiracy. I am rejecting any poorly researched vaccine w/o long term side effects known, and I would never take this Pfizer novel vaccine never used in either a medicine or a vaccine before, and this is why:https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/11/reports/pfizers-experimental-covid-19-vaccine-what-youre-not-being-told/?fbclid=IwAR1msjxNpwsPHmmp7QiYABuOJ3Uq486OOEjW95o-QVO1m11RuVKOWxXhvoA
(DIR) Post #A1MnWZF71ZqTSxbWTo by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T00:39:27.195332Z
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@CharlytheWorm @BCLADY @LaylaAlexandrovna @Mariposa @eigenstein https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/17/world/covid-19-coronavirus#the-baseless-great-reset-conspiracy-theory-rises-again
(DIR) Post #A1MnWZSwCAu89q4Z1s by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T00:47:02.939454Z
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@CharlytheWorm @BCLADY @LaylaAlexandrovna @Mariposa @eigenstein I doubt I will change the minds of the conspiracy theorists on here. However, I believe that their misinformation needs to be countered in this community, not just blocked or ignored.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWZuwW3J1YhAvgG by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T02:47:07.079232Z
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@Sylvie @CharlytheWorm @Mariposa @eigenstein And yet you did not provide any counter to any of the information I provided and I showed how the information you provided wasn’t proof of your assertions. If I were talking to a tra, I’d say you were gaslighting me. And now you have Mariposa thanking you for your service which was what? Posting studies that don’t prove masks stop infections (or even mitigate them) followed by a proud announcement that you will have the vaccine asap. Great service, thanks a lot. Please provide us with some non-misinformation.
(DIR) Post #A1MnWaMwpvhuxYHIKe by Sylvie@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T15:49:37.023928Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @CharlytheWorm @Mariposa @eigenstein The Denialist Playbook - Scientific Americanhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-denialist-playbook/In brief, the six principal plays in the denialist playbook are:Doubt the ScienceQuestion Scientists’ Motives and IntegrityMagnify Disagreements among Scientists and Cite Gadflies as AuthoritiesExaggerate Potential HarmAppeal to Personal FreedomReject Whatever Would Repudiate A Key Philosophy“The purpose of the denialism playbook is to advance rhetorical arguments that give the appearance of legitimate debate when there is none. My purpose here is to penetrate that rhetorical fog, and to show that these are the predictable tactics of those clinging to an untenable position. If we hope to find any cure for (or vaccine against) science denialism, scientists, journalists and the public need to be able recognize, understand and anticipate these plays.”
(DIR) Post #A1MnWacXtwBTjvZke0 by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T18:08:29.239909Z
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@Sylvie Perfectly reasonable, but generic, overview. Does not address lack of science for economic lockdown of a billion people for a virus which kills under 1% of those who get sick. I would wish we were protecting vulnerable better - using resources to upgrade HVAC in care homes (like Sweden, instead of recirculating virus laden air)….testing the care home employees better, protecting those at greatest risk….our for-profit nursing homes are killing the elderly while our “alternative” smaller private care homes are not.I wholeheartedly believe in protecting the elderly and vulnerable, that’s who it is killing. Lockdown has been shown to have greater harms than any covid mitigation for such a low-lethal disease.I also like Mexico’s response to covid, recognizing that the very rare pediatric death was in OBESE kids, they have BANNED all junk food in the wake of covid and are beginning to address their childhood obesity epidemic. As a health educator, I applaud them, I’ve wanted broad public health education and disease PREVENTION for decades, yet here we are with approaching 50% obesity in our populations. Obesity and diabetes kill how many each year? And, predispose the obese to covid increased risk of disease and death.1)I do believe Dr. Ionidddes about the low fatality rate of covd:https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf2) British Medical Journal calls out the covid corruption:https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44253) UK government says covid is not a High Consequence Infection:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-194) Many countries WITHOUT LOCKDOWN are better than US like Sweden:https://fee.org/articles/5-charts-that-show-sweden-s-strategy-worked-the-lockdowns-failed/?fbclid=IwAR2Rxy8kE8BESjMrnRomJK5ppcH19tYHvdTCnspYNeByseXQOcALfbKWSHk5) Manitoba premier on violation of lockdown to Canadian Charterhttps://www.jccf.ca/manitoba-premier-warned-that-lockdown-measures-violate-charter-freedoms/6) I’m also waiting for our US Supreme Court to make a decision soon about the unevenly and indiscriminately applied lockdown which closed churches but left STRIP CLUBS and casinos open. As an agnostic/atheist formerly “liberal” I applaud Justice Alito and want to see an end to TOTALITARIAN draconian lockdown:https://nypost.com/2020/11/13/justice-alito-warns-of-threats-to-religious-liberty-in-speech/@LaylaAlexandrovna @Mariposa @eigenstein
(DIR) Post #A1MnWampHiPKFoNxfU by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2020-11-19T18:43:12.546112Z
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@CharlytheWorm @Sylvie @eigenstein Thanks Charly for this excellent information. Sylvie, you have still not provided information proving that ‘masks save lives’. Your above post is off-topic. I could as well post an essay on critical thinking. I do post again a massive compilation on the science of masks which vastly overrules the studies you posted which I showed do not prove the efficacy of masks in preventing infection, much less actually ‘saving lives’. https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts/What you’ve actually done is show that you are in denial. The evidence that C-19 is a hoax, at the very least, a red herring to distract from a larger agenda is overwhelming; so overwhelming that most people are stuck like you, unable to see the larger picture. https://youtu.be/DKcSNrGf4dEHere’s yet another study which really tried hard [it seems] to show that masks do something and yet, once again, were like others, and failed to show conclusively that masks are effective against the spread of C-19. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817But you have already stated that you will get the untested vaccine so I guess there’s no reason for us to continue to help you see the bigger picture here. Please go well. Thank you.
(DIR) Post #A1MpbIeaKVOLN7u3iy by mystik@midnightride.rs
2020-11-19T20:36:42.102832Z
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@eigenstein @LaylaAlexandrovna @Sylvie It does less than herd immunity. Put your mask on, if you wish, when you're close to the elderly or vulnerable, or tell them to use themselves masks when they're around crowds. Other than that, masks do little to nothing, and herd immunity does everything in comparison.https://www.bitchute.com/embed/9Xe7y045XrQD/
(DIR) Post #A1MqQwajbKss0QjCGu by mystik@midnightride.rs
2020-11-19T20:46:02.694693Z
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@I_XXist @LaylaAlexandrovna
(DIR) Post #A1MrD8ENd4Q60NFXGa by mystik@midnightride.rs
2020-11-19T20:54:45.303821Z
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@frogsdottir @LaylaAlexandrovna @I_XXist Maybe real life experience? I've been a vulnerable individual (because of a lung condition) for more than a decade.Before finding a cure, I was very susceptible to being hospitalized for viral infections (corona included, of course). Every fucking year, some years twice. Horrible colic. Blood spitting. Horrible things happened to me before I created my own protocol to protect myself from infections, and then this year I found cures (thanks to all the information that started popping up about the covid19 hoax).Yes, it is a hoax, there is nothing new in the 2019's strain compared to previous strains. The strain itself is different, like every year, and that's about it. Nothing worse in comparison. Except for the extreme fear campaign perpetrated by mainstream media, the WHO, and intelligence agencies around the world.There is nothing new about it, nothing "novel", and if you believe there is, then go and prove it. YOU CAN'T. Bottom line is this: this year died the same number of people than past years, and it's not because of any "lockdown" or measure (Sweden, hello?)Wake the fuck up.