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(DIR) Post #A0Xzxgp5iRhMOgU80m by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:02:31.273942Z
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Apt is fucking fluoride. One day it will download everything in the universe as dependency. 41 packages for neofetch, 91 packages for pip, 338 for youtube-dl. How are people still keeping up with this stupidity? I swear I will not touch the abomination called apt ever again.
(DIR) Post #A0Y02Hx30qy1lpLnQ8 by Meeper@blob.cat
2020-10-26T08:02:56.198906Z
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@GNUxeava good idea
(DIR) Post #A0Y0Iw7hQGgSziGsIi by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:06:22.524310Z
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In comparisiion, youtube-dl is just one package in pacman and FreeBSD pkg pulls three packages for installing neofetch.
(DIR) Post #A0Y0z6k2KmXk5aJOyG by Bunnyhammer@mastodon.online
2020-10-26T08:11:40Z
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@GNUxeava This is why I hope Flatpak takes off more. Love a bit of Flatpak and usually everything is up to date and no dependency issues. :blobcattea:
(DIR) Post #A0Y0zB0UTY57Jm2bAm by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:13:53.936943Z
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@Bunnyhammer Flatpak is hell. I'll take building on bare metal over Flatpak anyday
(DIR) Post #A0Y182i4h29QBveepM by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:11:39Z
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@GNUxeava wait, apt installs more than is strictly necessary?But why? Isnt the point of a package manager to only install dependencies?
(DIR) Post #A0Y188nG4frX3k7sjw by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:15:29.367667Z
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@pretentious7 then please explain why apt pulls icon themes, video drivers and C++ compilers as dependencies
(DIR) Post #A0Y1larldOq7Q331MG by lunch@cybre.space
2020-10-26T08:20:53Z
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@GNUxeava @pretentious7 by default it will automatically install recommended packages even if they aren't strictly necessarythis is why smartmontools kinda annoyingly installs postfix
(DIR) Post #A0Y1lbk0NkE08GQKtk by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:22:31.164267Z
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@lunch @pretentious7 oh this reminds me of the incident where I installed vanilla xfce4 and it pulled gnome3 along with it
(DIR) Post #A0Y1pUZMzHup34IkHQ by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:22:18Z
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@GNUxeava apt-cache says neofetch only depends on itself.YouTube-DL has only python3 as a strict dependency but it recommends mplayer ffmpeg and mpv and phantomjs for some reason
(DIR) Post #A0Y1pWLGOhouXtiVZQ by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:23:27.476429Z
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@pretentious7 that still leaves 332 packages. What about those?
(DIR) Post #A0Y1pvyp4lJo3pPxCa by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:22:37Z
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@GNUxeava maybe change apt settings to only get strict dependencies?
(DIR) Post #A0Y1pwiuJQBKMkyl28 by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:23:32.378282Z
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@pretentious7 how?
(DIR) Post #A0Y1yLvKVAggq9nXEG by normandy@biribiri.dev
2020-10-26T08:25:02.068373Z
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@GNUxeava to be fair debian likes to split up packages quite a bit.
(DIR) Post #A0Y2ClA5Sq65AWZQi8 by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:26:10Z
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@GNUxeava recursive recommendations I'd guess.
(DIR) Post #A0Y2ClUIFiGCBC1ZCq by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:27:39.551655Z
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@pretentious7 that's terrible. Like real terrible. This way it will end up installing too much unnecessary stuff. Who came up with this idea?
(DIR) Post #A0Y2DHK7t38ouvVtnk by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:27:07Z
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@GNUxeava youtube-dl's recommendation tree is rather massive lol.Wonder why
(DIR) Post #A0Y31Zd46Mx4AaM3Cy by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:30:13Z
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@GNUxeava run it with -R or --without-recommends And alias it i suppose.There's also messing with apt.conf, but I don't like messing with etc.I'm not certain if that also disables suggests, so maybe --without-suggests, idk if that's the flag tho
(DIR) Post #A0Y31bz7LLmPTYggrI by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:36:46.432637Z
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@pretentious7 none of the parameters work
(DIR) Post #A0Y3noHAwpdrUq7IqO by koakuma@uwu.social
2020-10-26T08:44:48Z
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@pretentious7 @GNUxeava tbf ytdl do use those "recommended packages" for downloading from more exotic sites and output conversion/merging
(DIR) Post #A0Y4sg4Qz0vlRw2faq by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:46:07Z
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@GNUxeava sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install youtube-dl worked for me
(DIR) Post #A0Y4tGrcBdf3YtKSFU by pretentious7@mathstodon.xyz
2020-10-26T08:44:51Z
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@GNUxeava oh my god they changed the flag.Sorry just checked man page it's --no-install-recommends nowAnd use apt-get
(DIR) Post #A0Y51Hb9L8nc9kRp5M by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T08:59:11.688294Z
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@pretentious7 yeah it works now. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #A0Yfp1wVPxgyQkSR3Q by Bunnyhammer@mastodon.online
2020-10-26T15:50:56Z
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@GNUxeava Hmm, I'm guessing you mean to create them? In terms of needing an application however, then they are heavenly.I do like how RPM packages are done and handled by package managers such as Zypper, DNF and Yum. Seem to be much more logical.
(DIR) Post #A0Yfp2MjqQfxk6jNwW by GNUxeava@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-26T15:51:31.518825Z
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@Bunnyhammer no they are resource hungry
(DIR) Post #A0Yg40B8G6nFIqRDgu by Bunnyhammer@mastodon.online
2020-10-26T15:52:57Z
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@GNUxeava Weird, I don't find them to be an issue at all resource wise. I did with Snap when I used that a while back. But not with Flatpak.
(DIR) Post #A0vkowKp8TNbjASLmi by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
2020-11-06T19:05:57.077848Z
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@pretentious7 @GNUxeava I personally use aptitude -R as it is easier to remember and does the same thing.