Post A0UhRrXjwSq9jHABd2 by PixxburghGirl@resistance.social
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(DIR) Post #A0UT8hg4zz64Gu2B9s by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:10:33Z
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#VoteBlue #VoteBiden :voteblue: :voteblue2:
(DIR) Post #A0UTmf5E4209oBqjkO by realcaseyrollins@counter.fedi.live
2020-10-24T15:17:50.151499Z
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(DIR) Post #A0UTv89zqAlOJ17SZU by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T15:19:17Z
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(DIR) Post #A0UTvtDUsyUSFU7Q3M by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T15:19:27Z
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(DIR) Post #A0UTxBAlbxqCEBSMu8 by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T15:19:41Z
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(DIR) Post #A0UTzXn6UJG0xMW2vg by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:20:08Z
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@stux Really? Wow, I never would have thought you could support someone like Biden, yikes. I honestly would have expected you to lean towards a candidate more in line with european ethics than someone like biden...
(DIR) Post #A0UUKWCZak4G6oQk76 by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T15:23:48Z
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@freemo @stux Current choices are only 2, so its about better rather then the best
(DIR) Post #A0UV7bhdvY1BMNN1W4 by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:32:46Z
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@freemo Well.. what choice do I have at the moment? Biden is absolutely not my favorite but no Trump ever ever again.. I think Bernie would be a better one
(DIR) Post #A0UVBkUPCX8Nlk9a40 by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:33:31Z
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@mur2501 @freemo Exactly, Trump is like.. uh.. a fucking fuck face. Sorry, I only have hate for the guy
(DIR) Post #A0UVFBeieawetPcKDA by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:34:09Z
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@stux What do you mean what choice you have? You have a whole bunch of choices (presuming you were able to vote in the USA)..... I dont understand that statement.We have 4 candidates on our ballots... not 2....
(DIR) Post #A0UVI3upt5bLkwWi2q by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:34:32Z
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@mur2501 Huh? There are 4 presidential candidates on the ballots this year, not 2....@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UVKhR3vPEOu5rFPE by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:35:09Z
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@stux Not sure what trump has to do with anything either.. there are more than 2 candidates on the ballot for president, there are 4, more in some states....@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UVRlPRY4BjFuT8gy by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:36:25Z
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@freemo @mur2501 Alright, but from our (euro) perspective there are only 2 guys who can be the next President correct?
(DIR) Post #A0UVYxWysZDssRQSMS by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:37:44Z
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@stux No, that's not correct. Any of the candidates on the ballot can be the next president. If you get enough votes you become president, and all 4 are eligible to vote for them, so all 4 are eligible for president.@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UVwFYK2cINQl9uvg by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2020-10-24T15:41:57.722532Z
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@freemo @stux The chances of any alternative candidate winning this year is 0% and the yuros know it too.
(DIR) Post #A0UW2ykotb4BMHDHns by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T15:43:03Z
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@freemo @stux Ohh 4? :welp:Who are the other 2? :cate:
(DIR) Post #A0UWARltPO1zNgHBFw by happymoomoo@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-24T15:44:33.396927Z
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@freemo @stux I know, right? Imagine voting for a dementia patient + pedophile + city-burning terrorism denialist + trojan horse for the Chinese Communist Party because you don't like the man responsible for bringing more peace to the Middle East than anyone else, enacting the most sensible covid response, and repairing 16 years of economic disasters from the prior two administrations! Such is the power of propaganda. Considering far-leftists we have an answer to the question: "What was washed more in 2020: hands or brains?"
(DIR) Post #A0UWCqjvY1zZOjVDNY by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T15:44:50Z
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@freemo @stux That seems obvious, but anyway I don't understand America, its all weird.
(DIR) Post #A0UWF6kSzzbpcwpcem by happymoomoo@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-24T15:45:23.967569Z
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@mur2501 America is none of your business, then. @freemo @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UWF8KJ8DsAWOblA0 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:45:10Z
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@admin Translation "The chance of the general public voting for a high-quality ethical candidate is 0 this year"..Well yea sure, the american people are kinda brain dead when it comes to voting good high quality candidates in.. not sure what that has to do with anything.. doesnt change the fact that there are 4 people/parties on the ballot and they all have the same conditions on winning and all 4 are equally eligible.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UWJEnqzgQflaNwTg by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:45:58Z
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@mur2501 @stux Howie Hawkins and Jo Jorgenson, and they actually look like wonderful candidates.
(DIR) Post #A0UWNhFjA2ih9xY6F6 by happymoomoo@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-10-24T15:46:56.072934Z
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@stux >but from our (euro) perspectiveWhat, then, makes you think American politics is any of your business? How about y'all butt out and worry about your own problems? @freemo @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UWZzjAIX2BvvBMv2 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:48:57Z
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@happymoomoo I wouldnt go so far as to praise trump as some sort of exceptional politician while deriding Biden.Biden sucks and what you said isnt too far from the truth.. Trump doesn't look much better. Dont get me wrong Trump did some impressive and good things here and there, his handling of the economy was surprisingly well done. but he has just as many black marks as biden in other ways, his handling of the environment, for example, was pretty horrific.Neither candidate deserves much praise as an exceptional candidate and Biden is just as bad as Trump and vice versa.. well Biden is marginally worse than trump I guess, but not by that much really, they both suck.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UWnBLMQA2BiyKuNk by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T15:51:27Z
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@freemo @stux Green party, wowI thought they only had two parties
(DIR) Post #A0UWsE6HbAx7iqgmps by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:52:24Z
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@freemo @mur2501 But why does it looks like it’s a ‘battle’ between red/blue aka Trump/Biden?Isn’t it also very important on what ‘side’ you vote? In this case literally red or blue?
(DIR) Post #A0UWsp7HyOk4WgRc2a by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:52:17Z
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@mur2501 Nope, Democrat, Republican, Green, and Libertarian would be our 4 main parties. But sometimes candidates also get on the ballot without a party at all.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UWzeFklHqsrQeqSe by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:53:44Z
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@freemo Aha.. that’s weird.. @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UX1LN9vjAIsnvk5A by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2020-10-24T15:54:06.005989Z
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@freemo @stux Chicken/egg translation unnecessary. They're completely irrelevant. They'll probably take even fewer votes than 2016. If they were high quality people would know they exist. Ross Perot was high quality, Ron Paul was high quality.
(DIR) Post #A0UX7vElV0sRqv8ndw by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:55:16Z
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@stux It probably looks that way because your watching paid, commercial, services (most of the news) to tell you a story? what it "looks like" is going to reflect whatever the commercial interests are of those organizations. The goal of news organizations (and this includes Dutch news) is not to tell accurate impartial news, its to make money. You make more money off some narratives than you do off others.@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UXCZ7z82ZujIBS3k by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:56:06Z
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@stux as for if it matters what side you vote.. not sure what that means.. you vote for people not parties. In the american system the party doesnt make a huge difference as there are no coalitions as in other governments.@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UXIG0P8bGFA0Lski by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T15:57:00Z
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@freemoI really like your outlook we shouldn't treat or believe someone as Godly something. @happymoomoo @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UXM97qevPgysgjJY by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:57:46Z
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@freemo Well yes and no. The news yeah absolutely, that’s why they exist these days. But also my whole general input is based on this.. No matter where I go on the web or afk.. That’s why I love these kinda threads! People who live actually in it can educate me😃 That does not mean that all the stuff I see and hear is fiction though, I have my own brain and can also think about stuff@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UXOWZwQqEKIZxk0m by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T15:58:10Z
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@admin It has nothing to do with chicken/egg idea...Americans have ideology that prevents them from supporting good ideas, their idology is extremism and good ideas and good people dont reflect extremism. So the very nature of the american people right now is that a good candidate with good reasonable ideas that address all the concenrs of both sides... well those candidates arent going to get much of a vote.. but thats hardly a reason to go "Good candidates have a slim chance of winning so i will make it a point to never vote for good candidates!"
(DIR) Post #A0UXX2o2UlEeZCcSI4 by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T15:59:46Z
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@freemo I see, so kinda the opposite of what happens here I guess. Surely there’s a prime monster blabla, but the party is more important and in the US it’s the person instead? That’s kinda fucked up.. Everyone is so different and how can one hooman make good calls on everything, that should be a team effort @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UXXF1F5UvWRctAXI by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-10-24T15:59:49.358791Z
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@freemo @mur2501 @stux we don't have four main parties. you're arguing in bad faith here.Trump and Biden are the only candidates with any chance at all of winning.
(DIR) Post #A0UXcNiUB6T2rpZC5Y by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T16:00:39Z
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@freemoWhile ofcourse news media is all for their own profit but absolutely no news beyond the 2 that's kinda weird. @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UXdI1uo3HdWJ5V9E by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:00:52Z
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@stux Certainly a reasonable approach, talk to the people to get your ideas, not the news...the problem is you are talking about americans here, they are pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to an american seeing the reality around them accurately.So you are largely getting your information from people who in turn themselves rely strongly on our own news to form their opinions and very fiercely defend and adopt world views out of bias for extremism support of whatever side their own.So in this case going to americans isnt likely to give you an accurate picture either, simply because americans arent really any better than the news at conveying things accurately in the political arena (or any for that matter).@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UXeGQSFwZ0pn1wjA by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T16:00:59Z
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@mewmew @mur2501 @freemo In that case there’s only one obvious choice.. Who wants another 4 years of hell? :blobcatfakeverified:
(DIR) Post #A0UXh6Ppvge4eq5wCO by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-10-24T16:01:39.289167Z
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@stux @mur2501 @freemo a lotta dumb people here sadly
(DIR) Post #A0UXmRTr2RX9R9WJuq by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:02:34Z
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@stux members of a party in the USa will often side with their party. This is done partly because if they dont then they may not get votes next year since presumably it was people registered with their party who voted for them and thus the party ideals reflect the ideals of their voting base.But thats about as far as any pressure from their party goes.@mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UY4TOsdhqobTn8Nc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:05:39Z
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@mewmew Your statement didn't actually state why/if I was wrong.. We have 4 main parties, those parties get on our ballots every year, they are all equally eligible for president and can win a presidential seat under all the same rules as any other candidate.So yes, we absolutely have four main parties. I never made any claim as to how often or how likely they are to win, so not sure what that has to do with anything. As i covered americans rarely vote for good candidates, so sure, any good choice is going to be an uphill battle. But that really doesnt in the elast invalidate what I said. Just because americans by their nature arent likely to vote for good candidates it doesnt mean those candidates suddenly stop existing.@mur2501 @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UYBi9UBvKCNl2gDo by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:07:00Z
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@mur2501 Its weird, but not unusual really. Americans are weird like that, we are extremist when it comes to politics so variety of opinion isnt something you'd see get much noise.With that said, the other candidates do wind up in the news.. plenty to find on them if yo usearch the news section of google.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UYCKLACxFEoynXhQ by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T16:07:15Z
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@stux @freemo Well yeah America is a pure presidential democracy so one person rules kinda. We all are parliamentary democracies which means parliament as a whole is more important.
(DIR) Post #A0UYMoWIr6NFJl0cIy by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:09:08Z
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@stux Eh I dunno, the "4 years of hell" seems to have come mostly from dealing with how the liberals respond to trump (constant exaggeration and lying, which is sad considering trump sucks and doesnt need exaggerating), than due to trump himself.Most of the actual effects that I have had to deal with due to trump's policies have been positive for me (and many people). But dealing with liberals throwing fits every time you said "trump is bad but not that bad" has been far more a source of hell than anything Trump has actually done.@mewmew @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UYONWKD71k9ulVJ2 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-10-24T16:09:01.563646Z
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@freemo @mur2501 @stux how many seats in congress does the libertarian party hold? How many seats does the green party hold?
(DIR) Post #A0UYQFExxy4D3fXHM0 by realcaseyrollins@counter.fedi.live
2020-10-24T16:09:48.322277Z
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@freemo @stux You’re surprised? I’m surprised you’re surprised! He’s always chumming it up with the “vote blue no matter who” #HeroesResisr crowd from resistance.social
(DIR) Post #A0UYS1wMO28cO6gUGO by realcaseyrollins@counter.fedi.live
2020-10-24T16:10:08.754535Z
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@freemo @stux You’re surprised? I’m surprised you’re surprised! He’s always chumming it up with the “vote blue no matter who” #HeroesResist crowd from resistance.social
(DIR) Post #A0UYU8unQRj0bBxaVs by jeder@pl.jeder.pl
2020-10-24T16:02:22.544660Z
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@freemo @stux @mur2501 >Any of the candidates on the ballot can be the next president. lol sure, everyone knows the other two won’t even get more than 1 electoral vote
(DIR) Post #A0UYU9LNpazZveOoxE by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:10:15Z
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@jeder Yup, like i said, I dont expect any good quality candidate to ever get more than 1 electoral vote.. americans would never let a good candidate actually stand a chance.Doesnt really change anything though.@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UYYL0oOJ1ZH8m3zE by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2020-10-24T16:11:15.920741Z
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@stux It's intentionally constructed in a duality so nobody ever considers a third option. Then both sides are controlled so the voters never get what they actually want. Then they make the people fight over their fake choices.@freemoNobody votes for a third party because nobody thinks they'll win because they never win because nobody votes for a third party. Chicken egg. Then when there's an actually popular third-party candidate they get suppressed by the establishment. I've seen less support for Jorgenson than I did for Aleppo man.
(DIR) Post #A0UYYuJ7AFSek2bfsG by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:11:07Z
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@mur2501 Thats not even remotely true.. Our president has very little power, less than the other two branches of government. He cant really do all that much legally speaking, not on his own anyway.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UYchhhxtlaoMv8Km by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:11:54Z
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@mewmew About the same number as the total number of good candidates holding seats. Like i said, americans arent too good at voting for good candidates when they come along.@mur2501 @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UYkbxFE1LNIRxSa0 by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T16:13:21Z
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@freemo @stux Yeah its not unusual, but it kinda happens that America comes out as an odd man out in many stuffs so that intrigues us all outside of US.
(DIR) Post #A0UYorhmbfq9Iwkq8G by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:14:03Z
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@mur2501 Yea, thats true, we certainly do tend to be the odd one out on many political issues and processes.@stux
(DIR) Post #A0UYu3pMxnEeLimRf6 by realcaseyrollins@counter.fedi.live
2020-10-24T16:15:12.252493Z
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@freemo @mewmew @mur2501 @stux There’s more than 2 other parties, there’s also #KanyeWest, nominee of the Birthday PartyFTR I only recommend voting for Jorgensen or Kanye if you’re gonna vote third party cuz they’re the only two candidates I could see making an impact in 2024 and IMHO that’s what it’s all about
(DIR) Post #A0UZ1mDgJSha3Xpbv6 by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:16:26Z
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@freemoGee, thanks. That really makes me want to listen to you. There are only 2 options that can win the Presidential election. You know it. Everyone knows it. You keep pushing that Biden and Trump are the same, and it's the weakest and laziest argument out there. Thank God you don't live or vote here. @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UZ7UGlxpW07e04sy by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:17:29Z
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@freemoYou have 0 idea of what you're talking about. Absolutely zero.@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UZApLC4t30LIf212 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:18:04Z
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@TonyStark Hate to break it to you but I live in both the Netherlands and the USA. I do, in fact, have voting rights in the USA and I do, and will, be voting.As for making you want to listen to me, not really a high priority for me.@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UZWqR4ghoK6ouVBw by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:22:01Z
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@TonyStark What a convincing argument you just made, lol.I am fairly well educated on US politics. Any specific points I make you want to discuss feel free, but you have literally added nothing to the conversation other than lobbing some random insults and providing no other value of any kind.. so.. @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UZYKAxbHaMdU4vqa by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:22:24Z
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@freemoLol.I'm well aware of who you are and your motivations. We'll be waiting for your overseas mail ballot. Better send it soon. @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UZZtf79GLEz5vsoa by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2020-10-24T16:22:45.518813Z
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@mur2501 @freemo @stux It depends on the state you live in. My ballot has five parties' candidates this time.
(DIR) Post #A0UZgeSW4WE7rMGEqm by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:23:51Z
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@freemoYou've proven yourself time and time again to have zero knowledge of the subject.I just enjoy pointing it out every so often because for some unknown reason, Stux listens to you. Nobody else does. @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0Ua62peadyggvBwRM by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:28:22Z
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@TonyStark "Stux listens to you. Nobody else does." ... I've got over 15K followers, you sound like a fool.. Feel free to disagree with me, feel free to call me wrong. But it should be obvious, if nothing else, that people **are** listening to me.It actually caused me to burst out laughing to hear you say that considering I'm in the top 5 users with the highest following count on this service last I checked.@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0Ua9UhvPGx00vDn6W by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:29:00Z
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@lnxw37a2 Yea I explicitly stated that 4 parties are the ones on all the ballots in all states. in reality some states have dozens on the list.@mur2501 @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UaBxOjhtVlZiQ7w8 by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2020-10-24T16:29:38.515544Z
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@mewmew @freemo @mur2501 @stux If people vote for the candidate whose ideas match theirs most closely, neither of the twin parties' candidates would win. If they convince themselves that only red and blue matter, then they get the garbage they chose.
(DIR) Post #A0UaGbYcKyXXHlG5K4 by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:30:24Z
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@freemoFollower count is no indication of success in life. I'm embarrassed for you, honestly, for relying on something so trivial. Some of the most interesting people here have very few followers. And judging by the interaction you get, about 99% of them ditched. Have a nice day!@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UaI7A4JskxaqUo6q by stux@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T16:30:42Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo Yes, I want a better place. Even a child would do better than a Trumpet
(DIR) Post #A0UaY9XVFK7RbN6Ydc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:32:49Z
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@TonyStark Is ee reading comprehension isnt a skill of yours either... At what point did I state or even suggest follower count had anything to do with success at anything, let alone life? I also never said it had anything to do with if i was interesting or not... Try reading what I said again and then respond to what I actually said rather than some random nonsense you disagree with that I never said.@stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0Uaj7H20gzHlCd0N6 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:35:35Z
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@stux to some extent that is true.. trump is pretty bad, and it wouldnt be hard to beat him.. But yea, sadly, Biden is one of very few candidates that are clearly worse than trump.While I wouldnt really praise trump overall, like i said he did a few things very well all the same, so I'm not really sure its fair to say a child could do better (though yea a lot of candidates could)... I mean hell he got our unemployment rate lower than it has ever been since the world wars... something like the best unemployment rate we had ever seen in I think it was 80 years... these are hardly minor or half assed accomplishments. In that category at least he has done better than any other president in living memory.. so the reality of the numbers does not line up with the narrative.@realcaseyrollins
(DIR) Post #A0Uata4NnnUhxuhZGC by TonyStark@resistance.social
2020-10-24T16:37:20Z
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@freemoUh, "I've got over 15K followers, you sound like a fool..."Honestly. @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UbEqsyTZ5yCUVa6K by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2020-10-24T16:41:21.970253Z
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@freemo @stux @realcaseyrollins And related, lowest ever poverty rate for Blacks and Hispanics in 2019.
(DIR) Post #A0UbRZfRnu5KZ1FQ3c by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T16:43:30Z
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@lnxw37a2 Yea, its not like we are even saying "hey look he had an ok unemployment rate".. it is literally the best almost anyone alive has **ever** seen from any president in any of our lifetimes.. it is no minor feat. Granted like i said there is a ton of shitty stuff he does, so he isnt a good candidate, but none of them are. so if we are going to compare two piles of shit we need to at least bother looking at what good they did do, and frankly there isnt much going for biden in that regard, and some pretty nasty black marks.@realcaseyrollins @stux
(DIR) Post #A0UbSNCncgsWCeEFLU by mur2501@mastodon.online
2020-10-24T16:28:26Z
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@lnxw37a2 that means you can be a president without standing in all the states?
(DIR) Post #A0UbSNOUvCEgmvhaa0 by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2020-10-24T16:43:47.975154Z
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@mur2501 If you win enough electoral votes, you can skip the other states entirely.
(DIR) Post #A0UdUY2gVE4qIgf8BU by jlio@resistance.social
2020-10-24T17:06:24Z
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@freemoThe Netherlands and the U.S. don't have dual citizenship rights. I don't know who you are but you're misinformed lying. @TonyStark @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UfPFlpD3m45jNajI by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T17:27:49Z
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@jlio I am? when did I say I was a dual citizen? How about bothering to read what someone says before you call them a liar over something they never said. Never once did I claim to be a dual citizen.@TonyStark @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0Uh0E4QaoYhUJH5cG by jlio@resistance.social
2020-10-24T17:45:47Z
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@freemoYou would have to be to vote in 2 countries. Weird thing to lie about. @TonyStark @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UhRrXjwSq9jHABd2 by PixxburghGirl@resistance.social
2020-10-24T17:42:17Z
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@TonyStark @freemo @stux @mur2501 Whoever wants to say a, anyone other than Biden or Trump can win at this point is fucking crazy. Or that they're the same. If we lose our health insurance, my mom dies. Biden will expand the number of people insured. Trump will kill any insurance programs. Therefore, my family. Don't insult Americans. We don't all think the same or suck.
(DIR) Post #A0UhRrmd36kYTS84ps by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T17:50:42Z
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@PixxburghGirl Well considering I never claimed anyone other than Biden or Trump would or could win seems I'm safe then.. In fact I pointed out very clearly that americans would never vote for a high quality candidate on the ballot, and thus did not feel any of the high-quality candidates (which are pretty much anyone other than Trump or biden) stand a chance of winning, so in that regard we agree.I wouldnt say their the same though, they are both just as bad, but in different ways.Ironically Insurance is the very reason I had to leave the USA. When ObamaCare was initiated my insurance costs increases by 4x, and worse yet, most of the time insurance now refuses to cover me at all for most treatments and many doctors refuse to accept any insurance of any kind. For example thanks to ObamaCare it is now virtually impossible to get a Psychiatrist in PA in any reasonable amount of time (some have very long multiple-month waiting lists) while on insurance. So not only did my insurance costs increase four fold under obama, not only am i forced to pay out of pocket now for much of my care, but Obama even required me to have insurance even if the insurance sucks and wont cover me i still MUST have it and pay for it.In fact the one thing trump did for insurance while in office (he didnt change it much) was remove the requirement that people have insurance at all. So now if insurance is shit and wont cover you as it did with me at least you can drop it entirely.So yea I agree Insurance is very important and needs some significant reform, and Biden sure as hell wont be helping there he is literally the guy who broke insurance to begin with. Not that I think Trump will make it right honestly, frankly I expect he would screw it up too if he had his way.But at least if i judge on the actual results of what bidens contribution was to insurance and what Trumps was so far... Trump while doing very little what he did do was a marked improvement, and biden, biden was on the team that made health insurance in america somehow actually worse!Also just to be clear, I do agree there are some amazing americans who dont suck. but they are like 0.01% of the population. As an American myself I can attest that virtually all of us do, in fact suck. The exceptions are rare and few between and im willing to accept that perhaps your one of the exceptions.@TonyStark @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0UhsRFHp9I9zHCifI by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T17:55:33Z
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@jlio When did I say I could vote in two countries? I never said that either.I guess this is kind of on par with the caliber of conversation I expect from an america who supports the democratic party and biden honestly. It usually boils down to personal insults about some made up shit that no one ever said. Dealing with americans is like dealing with people in a mental hospital who dont even know what reality is. Like literally every message you have contributed so far is about some imagined fiction of something I said that I never said, and you resorting to name calling over it. Its literally the same as when I try to take care of my friend with schizophrenia and he has an episode.@TonyStark @stux @mur2501
(DIR) Post #A0Uk2Y5XRB7c0vaqNl by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-10-24T18:19:59.873354Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo @mewmew @mur2501 @stux Jorgenson won't be around next time. She's no Harry Browne.
(DIR) Post #A0Ur1lw1AdFSLbiVe4 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-10-24T19:38:10.823689Z
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@freemo @mur2501 @stux if a party doesn't hold any seats in congress I don't see how you can consider them a major party
(DIR) Post #A0UrhQ6whWAWpCgh9M by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T19:45:30Z
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@mewmew I used the word "main" not "major", these have subtle but important differences in meaning.Major, like the word majority, is a word that implies you hold a large portion of the support. I did not and would not use that word.I used the term main, which implies principality or authority more so than a quantity of support.Yes I'd call any **main** party one which is on the ballot and has equal right and access to the presidency, particularly considering there are only a few such parties, sot here is a clear divide between main/principle parties and not.Don't mince words here, you are trying to imply something very different than I am. You are trying to talk about what parties tend to get votes (approach majority, are major).. which is unrelated entirely to what I am saying, which what parties are main (have access to be on the ballot with equal privilege to win).@mur2501 @stux
(DIR) Post #A0V3IS7NIjATG9kW4e by freemo@qoto.org
2020-10-24T21:54:49Z
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@mewmew It is also very important to understand the nature of 2nd party wins historically in the USA.The USA has had seven or so times in its history where a third party has displaced one of the two primary parties, in all but one case the same very telling pattern took place.1) The old primary party that was displaced went from being a near majority to getting no seats in the course of only a single election years.2) the primary party went from holding a majority of seats to a negligible number of seats in a very short time as well3) The old primary party never recovers and eventually disappears entirely as a party after sometime.Its important to understand how quickly, at least historically, the change of parties in America has been, typically 3rd parties go from having no seats to a majority in only a single election cycle. So it really says nothing about their viability in any one election.@mur2501 @stux
(DIR) Post #A0VARFEhGS7JanJVQ0 by BlueHeron@mstdn.social
2020-10-24T23:15:45Z
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@stux You can call me the #VoteBlueHeron.