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(DIR) Post #9zwX8u2wsziAEimPlw by codewiz@mstdn.io
2020-10-08T06:15:16Z
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Getting the seasonal influenza vaccine today a d noticing that the H1N1 (swine flu) is still around after 11 years.Will the #COVID19 virus ever go extinct, even with massive vaccinations across all countries?
(DIR) Post #9zwc3dWzMWd9Kz8g6K by tagomago@mastodon.social
2020-10-08T07:10:19Z
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@codewiz I think it might depend on the mutations? Also, I read that H1N1 has had several strains, it was also responsible for the 1918 influenza pandemic (Spanish flu). Then again, I heard some dutch epidemiologist say that an effective vaccine for ALL flu viruses is feasible if the needed amount of money and time is spent (he talked about 10-15 years).
(DIR) Post #9zyfB03KiKDVOQOGJ6 by Dashtop@mastodon.online
2020-10-09T06:54:40Z
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@codewiz ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯
(DIR) Post #9zz6bIlETgrZhrgqQ4 by codewiz@mstdn.io
2020-10-09T12:02:00Z
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@tagomago Well. Looks like humanity should make an investments to eradicate deadly (or even just annoying) diseases as soon as possible, so we stop losing worker productivity and medical resources dealing with them every year.But even when it's the most economically rational strategy, somehow our species can never come together and commit to do it. Local interests, selfishness and shortsightedness always result in a dumb, uncoordinated global response 😞
(DIR) Post #9zz71f24INDyJG8MW8 by codewiz@mstdn.io
2020-10-09T12:06:45Z
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@tagomago Well. Sounds like humanity ought to invest to eradicate deadly (or even just annoying) diseases as soon as possible, so we stop losing worker productivity and medical resources dealing with them every year.But even when it's the most economically rational strategy, somehow our species can never come together and commit to it.Local interests, selfishness and shortsightedness always result in a dumb, uncoordinated global response 😞
(DIR) Post #9zzKMinslgMpUVs5Zo by nickchuckwalter@mastodon.social
2020-10-09T14:36:12Z
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@codewiz @tagomago all flus being eradicated would be amazing. Maybe Rona will be the catalyst to move us there
(DIR) Post #A010ZyS8aWRQ1L2Fhw by tagomago@mastodon.social
2020-10-09T21:48:02Z
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@nickchuckwalter @codewiz It was famously achieved with smallpox in 1980, which had recurringly plagued humans for at least 2,000 years.
(DIR) Post #A010syfK1Ow0BMGPo0 by codewiz@mstdn.io
2020-10-10T10:07:23Z
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@tagomago @nickchuckwalter wow, is that figure correct? Did the US really recoup the investment of eradicating Smallpox every 26 days?So I wonder... what would be the economic cost of eradicating #COVID-19 with social isolation alone? What if we had a 100% effective vaccine that needs to be inoculated yearly to enough people until the virus is extinct?
(DIR) Post #A012k9wEwKWaRk6G5w by amerika@freespeechextremist.com
2020-10-10T10:28:14.263085Z
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@codewiz @tagomago @nickchuckwalter What if we just killed the weak?
(DIR) Post #A016ttURLhK893zhLM by codewiz@mstdn.io
2020-10-10T11:14:47Z
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@amerika @nickchuckwalter @tagomago We're already doing it... by not staying at home, not wearing masks!It's not funny because it's true 😔
(DIR) Post #A0195Sx62dLlDt2lPs by tagomago@mastodon.social
2020-10-10T11:39:13Z
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@codewiz @nickchuckwalter Yeah, it's what the Wikipedia source says:https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/archive/doc/millions/MS_case_1.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#Eradication
(DIR) Post #A019rG2tKZY35tXjJg by tagomago@mastodon.social
2020-10-10T11:47:50Z
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@codewiz @nickchuckwalter Yeah, that same figure is what the Wikipedia source says:https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/archive/doc/millions/MS_case_1.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#EradicationSo, sure, I guess covid-19 makes for a perfect eradication candidate. Nothing can be more expensive than the countermeasures and damages that we are going through globally.
(DIR) Post #A01EGwoPrXeUmwHH8q by amerika@freespeechextremist.com
2020-10-10T12:37:25.114494Z
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@codewiz @nickchuckwalter @tagomago It seems like COVID-19 is mostly killing off the unhealthy, obese, and elderly.It's not up to the task, I'm afraid! ;)