Post 9zj5sBsb2MFCtDPtpY by codesections@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #9zhZ47PG0EuAqUoV96 by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T00:53:08Z
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One of these days, I'm going to make the jump to #wayland, but it turns out it's not going to be today.I thought I'd go halfway, and at least get the home server I connect to running Wayland (for when I access graphical programs on it, which I do pretty much every day).But, after playing around with it a fair amount today, I'd decided that the bspwm/tigerVNC stack is just a much better fit for that usecase than saw/wayvnc – a shame, because I really *want* to like the latter stack.Someday!
(DIR) Post #9zhZX3UbdJ9B6b76YK by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T00:55:15Z
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@codesections It's had some growing pains, and there's been some weird stuff on my end but at least locally wayland has been treating me well
(DIR) Post #9zhZleUCt9YxtQt44m by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T01:01:08Z
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@brandon > It's had some growing pains, and there's been some weird stuff on my end but at least locally wayland has been treating me wellYeah, I'm probably doing it wrong™ by trying to use wayland via a remote connection before I even give it a fair shot locally – I know that hasn't been the focus yet.But I just enjoy #stumpwm too much to give up my X11 local desktop yet! Sway seems like a great i3 replacement, but i3 isn't in my top three WMs for X, so it's hard to be too excited by that
(DIR) Post #9zhZvAwdZss9ASj6Iq by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T01:03:16Z
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@codesections I love how when I look up stumpwm, DistroTube's video pops up and he says it's "possibly the most frustrating window manager, I've ever used"
(DIR) Post #9zhb2vZ6k4tFjvysaW by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T01:17:54Z
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@brandon > I love how when I look up stumpwm, DistroTube's video pops up and he says it's "possibly the most frustrating window manager, I've ever used"Ha, I haven't seen that – I'll have to take a look and see what they're gripes are.I used to have some stability issues, but that was a year or two back; the past several months have been clear sailing.And, other than those crashes, I haven't run into anything I'd describe as frustrating, so I'm currious
(DIR) Post #9zheobcEW7uFd6rwtk by 9iXcMi23bT7adhJMSe.thor@social.thorjhanson.com
2020-10-01T01:54:45Z
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I switched from KDE Plasma on X11 to Sway/Wayland about 9 months ago and have never looked back, having never used a tiling window manager before. I'm a bit lucky I guess in that everything I use regularly seems to work pretty well. I'm absolutely loving it, and have very few issues.When I started a new job in June that let me choose a distro, I ran Kubuntu for a bit, but ended up installing i3 because I missed Sway so much. Still using Sway at home tho.So I think I'm a bit unusual in that I started my tiling experience in Sway and then starting to use i3, haha.
(DIR) Post #9ziS2yaCokXYfaP2J6 by raichoo@chaos.social
2020-10-01T11:12:07Z
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@brandon @codesections I've recently added support for virtual input to `hikari` so things like `wayvnc` should work there. Of course `sway` had it before, but that's a given ^^.
(DIR) Post #9ziTlosJrEtVXxp2BM by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T11:31:06Z
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@codesections Distro tube is USUALLY on the money, except for that gun rights video...that was a little rife with false comparisons
(DIR) Post #9ziTvb9zhj6huGkhrk by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T11:32:58Z
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@codesections I didn't check out the video myself but let me know if you think I should!
(DIR) Post #9ziXIu0o4zSqthG6hk by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T12:10:50Z
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@brandon I thought it was reasonably interesting, and helped clarify what I like so much about #stumpwm: it's much more built around keyboard *chains* than a flat namespace of shortcuts – that is, you tend to press one key to open up a group of commands, and then press another key to select a command from inside that set.Narrowing things down sequentially like that is a *great* fit for the way my mind works; it's also exactly what the guy in that video didn't like.
(DIR) Post #9ziYniaYhWzMOqEuHo by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T12:27:35Z
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@codesections So it's basically the emacs of tiling window managers? :P
(DIR) Post #9ziYyc2ZO5T5HBXJA0 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T12:29:33Z
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@codesections Oh, and if I'm not mistaken this is done with both i3 and sway well, with modes
(DIR) Post #9zib54c0GvYlXEJoHo by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T12:53:20Z
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@brandon @codesections EXWM is the Emacs of tiling window managers. As it *is* emacs :D
(DIR) Post #9zifHi91W4MrR12qga by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T13:39:15Z
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@brandon > Oh, and if I'm not mistaken [chaining keyboard commands can be] done with both i3 and sway well, with modesYeah, it be, and I've played around a bit with that. I never got it to work in a way I was super happy with: scripting the bindings felt a bit clunky, and there wasn't a way to have in-progress chains display the currently-available bindings. (I admit that's more of a nice-to-have than an must-have, though).Maybe I'll give that another try sometime
(DIR) Post #9zj3KSbo8FIv1JLuUq by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:09:40Z
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@codesections Hmm 🤔 There may very well be a way to do that with i3status
(DIR) Post #9zj3gKckV3licuDoDw by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:13:49Z
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@nathand @codesections Can you log in a session as your user via emacs?
(DIR) Post #9zj3otcmFkInUlJpUO by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:15:21Z
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@brandon @codesections What do you mean? You can go right from greeter to emacs, yes. You can even startx -> emacs if you want. EXWM just adds some wrapping to emacs to complete the setup.
(DIR) Post #9zj3tVkSS2NktP70AS by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:16:13Z
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@nathand @codesections I did not know that o.o That's pretty cool
(DIR) Post #9zj3xLwOrBLldMWtpA by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:16:45Z
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@nathand @brandon > EXWM just adds some wrapping to emacs to complete the setup.As nifty as that is, though, it does mean that anything that causes emacs to hang (rare, but not unheard of, ime) also causes your whole WM to be unresponsive
(DIR) Post #9zj3z1UJs4gQmOBwUi by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:17:12Z
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@brandon @codesections You can use any x program as the xinit program. For a while I was just spawning firefox. It's not as fun as it sounds.
(DIR) Post #9zj41tEX1Boq2yAqbA by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:17:43Z
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@nathand @codesections lmao ...that doesn't even *sound* fun
(DIR) Post #9zj45sQ5z6pegMU4Po by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:18:21Z
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@brandon @codesections I was coming off of ChromeOS and wondered if it was something feasible enough for Firefox/linux
(DIR) Post #9zj4hsv4ZjVNEh64nI by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:24:38Z
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@nathand wrote>> You can use any x program as the xinit program. For a while I was just spawning firefox. It's not as fun as it sounds.@brandon wrote> lmao ...that doesn't even *sound* funSure it is – don't you want an unmanaged window? :D(I've played around with doing something similar, but never got it to look quite right (the app was frequently not centered/fullscreen). Lately, I've done the same thing with a custom #bspwm config that just launches a single app in monocle mode)
(DIR) Post #9zj5UjYSBMBsNgoHZI by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:33:57Z
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@codesections @nathand What is monocle mode?
(DIR) Post #9zj5sBsb2MFCtDPtpY by codesections@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T18:38:06Z
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@brandon @nathand > What is monocle mode [in bspwm]?Basically just full screen one window (which doesn't really matter when I just have one window open, but still)
(DIR) Post #9zj8iZc4F30DSpn7Me by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T19:09:55Z
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@codesections @nathand does monocle mode prevent you from opening other apps ?
(DIR) Post #9zj8tjhJ5WMrvTZ4bY by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-10-01T19:11:27Z
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@brandon @codesections Doesn't prevent you, no, but typically monocle mode hides other windows (save floating style windows, like dialog boxes). Some of them do a replace action...