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(DIR) Post #9zgyzE9Nu9otxpl2K8 by chriswere@share.tube
2020-09-30T18:11:49.919Z
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I share some rambling thoughts on bridging Mastodon accounts with Twitter accounts.
(DIR) Post #9zh16wKkEN08vnsPku by Bloodaxe@mastodon.social
2020-09-30T18:35:07Z
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@chriswere You say you have a centrist view on this, but there's nothing wrong with that š And I agree, it's all about the direction the community chooses to utilize these bridges that define if it's good or bad. Matrix-Discord bridge made me use Matrix/Element a lot more than I ever would without them, and then I ended up loving Matrix š I'm sure Mastodon-Twitter or other bridges have done similar things for some folks out there.
(DIR) Post #9zh3cD3EKEBbfIirWC by ChrisWere@linuxrocks.online
2020-09-30T18:59:22Z
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@Bloodaxe That's a really good point. Thanks for sharing it.Anything that makes the #Fediverse more accessible to more people seems like a good thing to me.
(DIR) Post #9zh3uLbTGbR9OzO4wK by piratehoosier@mastodon.online
2020-09-30T19:06:45Z
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@chriswere Ramble all you like I'll just sit here an enjoy the eyecandy.
(DIR) Post #9zh6LqYkTrPp8bM2Gu by jkbr@tech.lgbt
2020-09-30T19:33:53Z
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@chriswere Cool video. You almost got into that in the end but you could follow this up with a video on peertube vs youtube and bridging those together. Would be interesting to hear your views on that as well
(DIR) Post #9zhwrnexzaPt1lovuC by xosem@toot.site
2020-10-01T05:22:29Z
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@chriswere thanks for sharing your opinion/thoughtsIt's all about respect, IMO, and I don't feel respected by a twitter-fediverse bridge account, a bot in essence. I'm not in TW so I don't know how people there feels about it, but I guess most people there expect to be fed and here people is much more interaction oriented in a way.
(DIR) Post #9zhxpFTkCnb2OMv19s by marcg@video.gcfam.net
2020-09-30T21:30:57.730Z
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My only issue with twitter->mastodon cross-posting is when they do not interact with the fediverse. If you want to have presence on both then fine but have an actual presence on both not just dumping your content fishing for people almost.
(DIR) Post #9zicyRceWMwemXaa6C by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
2020-10-01T13:14:36Z
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@chriswere As long as they engage here too, I don't complain. But sometimes when they reply to someone in Twitter, it looks out of context and irritating.I wish when they don't engage here, they would just toggle it as bot account. That way people will know what to expect from these accounts.
(DIR) Post #9zidBEHTR6BtAUmMgS by heluecht@pirati.ca
2020-10-01T13:16:42Z
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@redstarfish @chriswere ist is really depending - on the user and on the quality of the bridge.
(DIR) Post #9zj2u0VjybzYLZtuLo by kkremitzki@linuxrocks.online
2020-10-01T18:04:45Z
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@redstarfish @chriswere You usually shouldn't see their replies here, unless they are quote-tweeting a reply to someone, which is a Twitter engagement-hacking technique. When the bad parts of Twitter culture leak out over here, that's when it also can become a problem.
(DIR) Post #9zj3IAlpU2wl7GwuP2 by Draconicrose@mastodon.social
2020-10-01T18:08:44Z
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@chriswere I really like the idea of the Fediverse but for some reason I don't find myself engaging with it the way I do with Twitter. I use a cross-poster just so I can reach more people. It's not like I would post different things on Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #9zj3J8HQEEH5gLBTKy by kkremitzki@linuxrocks.online
2020-10-01T18:09:25Z
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@chriswere I bridge my Twitter & Mastodon accounts. This is because I am more often browsing Twitter, and it's more convenient than copy+pasting a post over here. However, I do also browse this account, and interact with people regularly with it.I understand the problems people have with de facto bot accounts blasting out messages. However, I think what we have here is actually an opportunity to bring people further into the fediverse, by examining the actual use case. (continued)
(DIR) Post #9zj3Ykm3OHwhPexbTU by kkremitzki@linuxrocks.online
2020-10-01T18:12:23Z
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@chriswere Something like a FOSS social media management app, a sort of super-Tweetdeck, which would let me browse various feeds of my choosing (maybe even working with web feeds natively!) & interact with them with various accounts. So if I want to share what I cooked for lunch I can just click a "New..." button, de-select my default sending accounts, & select my Pixelfed account.If something like that existed, it'd also help people break away from getting attention-hacked by infinite scroll.
(DIR) Post #9zj3eaAfj18cGYFrSy by cy@fedicy.allowed.org
2020-10-01T18:13:37.383840Z
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@chriswere The only real problem with bridges is advertising. Every time someone sees āRTā they will be tempted to some degree to go on Twitter, and stop participating in the Fediverse for the moment. And Twitter can, and does use your posts and your content to attract more users to its platform, so every time you post there, youāre helping fund the suppression of things like the Fediverse.But thereās no reason to cripple yourself from having an audience, just to silently, ineffectively protest a corporationās misbehavior. if a bridge posts to the Fediverse without saying posts are just a secondary copy of Twitter posts, and the author actually responds to replies on the Fediverse instead of their Fediverse blog being an unmanned bot just unresponsively dumping their tweets on us, then itās fine with me if you do that.
(DIR) Post #9zj46gNKFgKFcFZZ2W by cy@fedicy.allowed.org
2020-10-01T18:18:41.684032Z
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@kkremitzki @redstarfish @chriswere The problem is Twitter, with their moronic ā@mentionā system instead of linking. You canāt reply to what someone said, you can only reply to their whole blog, and anyone who wants context has to go to Twitter and search that other blog to guess which post.The Fediverse seems to do that, but actually every reply has a link to what post itās replying to, which is how our clients build āthreadsā of posts.Actually I bet Twitter started supporting some sort of post-post linking too, probably by pressure from the Fediverse. I canāt be assed to check though.
(DIR) Post #9zjD6GXvBPgr60PA4e by niquarl@peertube.social
2020-10-01T19:59:07.628Z
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@kkremitzki@linuxrocks.online I'd look forward to asuper-tweetdeck like application where I could have a collum for mastodon and another for twitter. Twidere on Android supports both Twitter and Mastodon (limited) and allows you to have both toots and tweets in the same timeline I believe, maybe that could interest you ?Do you also crosspost RT ? Because I think that's the most annoying for a lot of people, second only to tweets crossposted to toots that ask a question.
(DIR) Post #9zjDXlTcIAKOqOVIZs by niquarl@peertube.social
2020-10-01T20:04:16.331Z
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I think Twitter to Mastodon brigdes are a good way at first to make Mastodon not feel as empty as it allways felt on GnuSocial or Diaspora* to me. But at this point, except for a few organisations, 'celebrities' I don't really want to see most people's twitter content on Mastodon.I think we should encourage people to use a Mastodon to Twitter crossposter though, with a clear mention in the Twitter bio that they are doing that, in order to get more Twitter users interested in Mastodon, and also not completely disconnect from one's Twitter circles when moving to Mastodon at the start.
(DIR) Post #9zjHI9JWIXEVxOagAi by lps@video.1146.nohost.me
2020-10-01T20:45:10.289Z
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@marcg@video.gcfam.net exactly my thoughts:)
(DIR) Post #9zne90NFF4TzCamVIe by jeena@tube.jeena.net
2020-10-03T23:21:08.118Z
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I just subscribed and liked, and now I'm commenting.
(DIR) Post #9zneoVdVujKO29BKNc by jeena@tube.jeena.net
2020-10-03T23:28:40.878Z
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Interestingly I do cross posting between all the things but I'm coming from the IndieWeb where my own website is my main channel and everything else is just a distribution channel. I treat Twitter almost like a write only medium nowadays just because nothing interesting ever happens there. But I'm cross posting what I call notes on my website to Mastodon and Twitter because it's so simmilar, I'm also cross posting photos from my website to mastodon and Twitter (Facebook obviously closed down their API a couple of years ago). I feel that there are still people on Twitter who only read my stuff there and because it's so easy to just push it there I'm just still doing it.
(DIR) Post #9znvrcN124Rj0YX6XI by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2020-10-04T02:39:43Z
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@chriswere That was all well said. Measured and reasonable.Thanks mate.
(DIR) Post #9zpy05XX3KX817XS7M by hanimated.moh@bittube.video
2020-10-05T02:12:43.040Z
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I just donated 100.0 tubes to chriswere using BitTube Airtime extension
(DIR) Post #9ztUGJutpLaTvZFiUq by chriswere@share.tube
2020-10-06T18:58:45.401Z
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@jeena@tube.jeena.net Thanks, that's really kind of you :-)
(DIR) Post #A0aI4L2PC9ZfViDxiq by brandkopf@share.tube
2020-10-27T10:34:13.843Z
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I mainly post my artwork on mastodon with the tag #mastoexclusive, maybe I should change it to #fediexculsive.I am not making my living with my are, therefore my point of view might be different to people who are in a real need to reach as much people as possible.Here some bullet points I wanna highlight:- Why would people change from commercial platforms to the fediverse if the content is 1:1 same by bridge postings? - Maybe I can pull some interested people to the fediverse with my exclusive content. (Chicken Egg problem of social media solved by spreading some corn ;D)- For me, the fediverse is more about a mindset of independence from big data collecting companies, than an additional possibility to spread content to the interwebs. -- For me as an art creator, I dont want to transfer usage rights of my content to big companies, which is usually a part of their data policy.
(DIR) Post #A938yNMi3li1fHjmxk by FediVideos@mas.to
2021-07-07T15:36:05Z
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@chriswere Your videos about Fediverse topics are great, they're calm enough to avoid being preachy but they touch on interesting topics that lead to interesting discussions
(DIR) Post #A9BFwhyOiswLwZCHnE by anubis2814a@peertube.stream
2021-07-11T13:31:44.438Z
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Bridging is important because it creates a transition point to get more non-tech people to move over. If I had to post to both I don't know if I would have bothered. Also thanks to bridging other than to check notifications, One spends way less time on twitter giving them less money and recommendations. That said, I find friendica more compatible with Twitter, easier to organize and better at two way real time communication. I've had a lot of people in the fediverse, especially diaspora thank me for sharing things from twitter to the fediverse as they've done their best to get away from twitter in general though twitter still has some important uses. Sadly talking to the friendica developers, mastodon appears to break something that makes it compatable with friendica with every upgrade. I was using it to post pictures that would mirror back to twitter then friendica but Mastodon broke their photo links and I had to rely on twitter spending more ttime there than I'd like. I hope that Friendica can create a stable bridge with mastodon at some point so I don't have to deal with the convoluted method of bridging them both to twitter.