Post 9zPQiORhT4mNBmdMZ6 by fenix@mastodon.lrdf.fr
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(DIR) Post #9zPOahgbqgCmdZoTia by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T06:33:48Z
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I wonder how long I can still coast through the #IT field without any AWS/Azure/GCP certs...
(DIR) Post #9zPOlIFikc4gwRHmWO by dada@diaspodon.fr
2020-09-22T06:35:54Z
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@Gina Go for a job in a Luxembourgish bank and you won't ever need one of these :yay:
(DIR) Post #9zPOwyusT5BURk6sBk by nvsr@best-friends.chat
2020-09-22T06:37:49Z
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@Gina very easily tbh! Most smaller companies don't care as long as you do your job well
(DIR) Post #9zPOyJwVmIoBwqVql6 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T06:37:56Z
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@dada Tell me more about this wonderful world of banking.
(DIR) Post #9zPP0j0vXDsEHgiypM by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T06:38:23Z
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@nvsr Yeah but the thing I'm interested in is Enterprise Architecture 😅
(DIR) Post #9zPP60zA91M1TCQCcC by nvsr@best-friends.chat
2020-09-22T06:39:33Z
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@Gina my condolences!
(DIR) Post #9zPPRvoW3NKdnitOCG by framasky@framapiaf.org
2020-09-22T06:42:48Z
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@Gina @dada Do you like COBOL? :troll:
(DIR) Post #9zPPaCOMIgDxX9bF9E by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T06:44:57Z
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@framasky @dada *flies away*
(DIR) Post #9zPPiy2B3FiTbtPD6G by framasky@framapiaf.org
2020-09-22T06:46:32Z
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@Gina @dada Na, just kidding, they are (slowly) migrating their COBOL code to Java (I don’t know what version but I suspect 6 or 7).
(DIR) Post #9zPQ5eWFm1C9kKI5BI by dada@diaspodon.fr
2020-09-22T06:50:46Z
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@framasky Speculation. No one can tell if they can start a migration from COBOL to java. 😅 @Gina
(DIR) Post #9zPQ9pnZmLwdt3O4dk by framasky@framapiaf.org
2020-09-22T06:51:31Z
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@dada @Gina I met a guy, a few years ago who was paid for that migration.
(DIR) Post #9zPQiORhT4mNBmdMZ6 by fenix@mastodon.lrdf.fr
2020-09-22T06:53:41Z
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@framasky @Gina @dada If you’re more into sysadmin stuff, you could learn AIX too. There are still a loooot of Oracle-on-AIX setups out there (in public administrations, banking and payments systems...).Or develop some network skills, with some BGP you’ll rule the world ! :)
(DIR) Post #9zPQiObcsAidgZHI2K by fenix@mastodon.lrdf.fr
2020-09-22T06:55:39Z
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@framasky @Gina @dada (or you could try to work FOR a cloud provider, everything behind the scene is made of Perl and some Linux old boxes:D)
(DIR) Post #9zPQiOk8MXWa6xG5IW by dada@diaspodon.fr
2020-09-22T06:57:44Z
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@fenix +1 @framasky @Gina
(DIR) Post #9zPQo6g8RGfNp46tDE by alrs@lsngl.us
2020-09-22T06:58:46Z
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@Gina I pulled a Novell cert in 1995, and never did anything with it.
(DIR) Post #9zPT5e9dQhDOTeOqy8 by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-09-22T07:24:14Z
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@Gina y? Goy empty walls at home? I'd suggest Displates instead 😅
(DIR) Post #9zPU9g10YKthMRqlua by b3n@x0r.be
2020-09-22T07:36:13Z
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@Gina In my opinion, if a company want certified people to keep up with deals they have with suppliers and/or clients. Then, they are usually keen to help you get them.But if they do require certs as a pre, chances are they are either rushing to hire or not that much clever (HR is not IT). And then you better not ending up working for them.
(DIR) Post #9zPaG5xLcKgBHIa8Y4 by stuts@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T08:44:35Z
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@Gina experience > qualifications! I think most (decent) employers care more about drive, experience and ability to learn than qualifications. At least this is what I've experienced!
(DIR) Post #9zPakSKoyjhvN62SQK by ewintr@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T08:50:00Z
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@Gina For forever, if you want. I've been doing it for 20+ years without a problem. Currently working as a Go developer. Just make sure you can get some interesting projects on your resume.
(DIR) Post #9zPmVS9wY0rnvwYyWW by 0hlov3@mstdn.social
2020-09-22T11:01:49Z
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@Gina i didn't need a certificate for now. And no one is asking for it, but i', also thinking about getting a certificate :D
(DIR) Post #9zPpa3Ch3jWNqTjWvA by benoitj@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T11:36:12Z
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@Gina certs are just used as a way to sell you to inexperienced companies. Consulting companies pay certs to their employees to win contracts, negotiate alliance with (cloud) companiesyou dont even need an IT education to succeed in this field. Is you learn fast, can think, gain meaningful experience and result, it will beat anyone with 15 years of work history who never became competentIf someone requires certs and does not pay, run...
(DIR) Post #9zPqhBFjdCcWn47Thw by nathand@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T11:48:49Z
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@Gina A long time. Most of it's junk. AWS, Azure and GCP aren't hard. If you understand what you want to build and how *that* infrastructure works, it's boils down to putting the LEGO together to make it work. Yes, AWS calls their storage S3, whereas Azure calls theirs Blob and Google calls theirs ... well, no one runs their shit on Google's dumpster fire.Fintech, the industry I'm in, does absolutely use those tools though.
(DIR) Post #9zPqwko9iiXXPGe5po by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T11:51:35Z
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@benoitj yeah I see it a way to get a foot in the door at a possible next job. I don't have a classic IT background so I def need something to back up my experience.
(DIR) Post #9zPvuJdWGvUwKLKMCG by ajmartinez@social.librem.one
2020-09-22T12:47:12Z
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@Gina as an IT manager I have never hired anyone based on certs or a lack thereof. Demonstrable ability to solve problems and understand documentation is what sets people apart to me, and no cert has ever guaranteed those traits to me.
(DIR) Post #9zQ3PwKZ9mn8zXUMAy by andy@mentalhealth.social
2020-09-22T14:11:18Z
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@Gina It's worked for me for 25 years... (though I do have a GNVQ in COBOL programming and was an MCP for a few years at the start of the 00s).You'll be fine! This is fine!
(DIR) Post #9zQ3ZwnkGIWdLZuPjc by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-09-22T14:13:06Z
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@andy totally fine 😅
(DIR) Post #9zVDdKfflbWpJTZKZU by trevdev@mastodon.technology
2020-09-25T01:59:21Z
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@Gina for both our sakes I hope indefinitely
(DIR) Post #9ziUnxsVSJ6k0DUq7U by Steven_Vervaecke@mastodon.pirateparty.be
2020-10-01T11:29:37Z
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@GinaGina, im in the same position as you. Survived 15 years and now im deep diving in the cloud stuff because its the future. I mean docker, kubernetes, azure, o365, containers, comptia+ cloud, all that stuff
(DIR) Post #9zorfivic1sLDdnWfA by mercury9@fosstodon.org
2020-10-04T13:27:29Z
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@Gina certs don't replace experience. simply chase the experience. and don't coast if you're interested in your craft.