Post 9yfuk3rtxcU5fQYLb6 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
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 (DIR) Post #9yfc9MoekiRoXiO7vs by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T04:29:12.293243Z
       
       5 likes, 1 repeats
       
       >no more SEXwew, leddit on suicide watchCEO_of_SEX.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfcJ1mvmvz0DpBhuC by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T04:30:57.045137Z
       
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       @roka yagoo has made SEX illegal. praise the new moral age
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfcTEHcBg3Bs0P8TY by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T04:32:47.904026Z
       
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       @hakui >mosi mosi>aloe is a whore aruCEO_of_seiso.png
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfdVaYwQKhLVBCJQu by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T04:44:25.349697Z
       
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       @hakui you know what would've been really funny? If the reason she bailed was the pressure by the white knights who kept the wound open instead of letting it heal naturally.leddit_whiteknight.png
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfdeCsZqZhMeiUXB2 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T04:45:59.408311Z
       
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       @roka the dilatory habits of reddit must be stopped
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfdnNZRSxTwQ8umqe by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
       2020-08-31T04:47:38.637870Z
       
       8 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @roka @hakui Reddit is truly one of the most disgusting things to happen on the internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfeGMsj6feagKl3tQ by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T04:52:53.032293Z
       
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       @deadheat @hakui it's a good pasta though
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfeOCPnu9I6XMxpHk by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T04:54:17.741937Z
       
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       @roka @deadheat it's starchy and not properly cooked
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfeTlVOrplCodEfPE by march@neckbeard.xyz
       2020-08-31T04:55:17.242204Z
       
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       @roka @hakui i thought it was very funny when someone on the vtuber threads had the idea of compiling comments like these and putting them together in a video, so that japanese fans can hate the foreigners even more
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfeaLxAGgObatMbKK by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T04:56:29.731305Z
       
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       @march @hakui that's what anon meant by including the deepl translation, I think
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfgMUNULgWxZoC2K0 by zemichi@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T05:16:23.887559Z
       
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       @deadheat @roka @hakui What reddit doesn't get is that vtubers are different than they were two years ago. It's one thing that there's a big 5 and everyone gets along while small jobber vtubers are out there but it isn't like that anymore.  Now you have large groups with big celebrity pull that didn't exist until now and with that comes major tribal warfare.Aloes mistake was not properly covering her butt when starting. SEX talk can be dealt with but talking about other vtubers is a nono.  There are too many people out there that don't like you just because you're in Hololive and will take the opportunity to snipe you any way they can.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfglis3bKHflWWX6e by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T05:20:57.828985Z
       
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       @zemichi @deadheat @roka ah i forgot about the talking shit part. was wondering why it exploded like this
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfiWRbphHgrnHmGCe by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T05:40:36.391356Z
       
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       @zemichi @deadheat @hakui I said this before – it was in everyone's best interest to stop talking about it. Except for leddit and filthy westerners who just wanted to feel like heroes  by making Aloe a honest womanposting worthless feelgood bullshit online
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjDl1XOEdESXSCXY by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T05:48:26.009117Z
       
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       @hakui @zemichi @deadheat check out this tourist wscreenshot.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjPLEp5PsjxfBwvo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T05:50:31.944963Z
       
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       @roka @deadheat @zemichi >hololive US needs to happenit'll work as beautifully as communism didin fact nizisanzi is actually doing one, i give it two years before it becomes a nuclear wasteland
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjbZaJZVSnvp4ofQ by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T05:52:44.632545Z
       
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       @roka So did she quit or get fired?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjt9G8BiyfUs15XM by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T05:55:54.758035Z
       
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       @Ricotta officially it's that she quit herself. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was true.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjwnj0C6MBrrGKum by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T05:56:34.858641Z
       
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       @roka I guess she can join VOMS or something now. Wasn't she Nijisanji before?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjxUGo0oLtorOvR2 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T05:56:41.814989Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta she "graduated", hinamizawa-style
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfjy8sn10VFmFTpC4 by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
       2020-08-31T05:56:49.560213Z
       
       7 likes, 4 repeats
       
       @roka @hakui @zemichi I can't even finish this. Redditors should be arrested.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfkPcmJyJoeJdYiga by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:01:47.106837Z
       
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       @Ricotta that twitcast had her talking about joining an unspecified company with „black” policies and then shittalking nijisanji based on rumours she seems to have spread first about Chitose. Problem is, that was relatively a short while ago and I don't remember hearing her anywhere but hololive. And it's clear that Cover doesn't enforce some of the policies she complained about so she was either employed for a very short time and didn't even debut, hololive took around a year to give her a debut or she just lied about it all.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfkam77bS2CSFbaXg by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:03:48.031537Z
       
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       @roka Cover really shit the bed on this one.All they had to do was not do exactly what they did.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfkiCE6umwtT8PfIe by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:05:08.430051Z
       
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       @Ricotta wrong, they couldn't have done anything differently.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfknNojFTyMrf0wRU by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:06:04.989691Z
       
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       @roka The best thing to do would have been to ignore the problem entirely.The character was a succubus. Being a filthy whore was in-character.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfkxbiGRJVsrCrjO4 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:07:55.313366Z
       
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       @Ricotta the suspension was a slap on the wrist though and was likely enforced mostly to let the drama simmer down. That being said, Nene should've been punished for leaking that follow list which led to discovery of SEX PLEASE identity too.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yflIolF7eFJPFNB68 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:11:45.469331Z
       
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       @roka The suspension wasn't necessary, and only served to make a bad situation worse. Ignoring the issue would have been far less damaging. Most people would have forgotten it quickly if she'd actually started producing content instead of hanging her out to dry for everyone to see like a pissed-on futon on the balcony.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yflWhyT9TPuPbBOka by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:14:16.456947Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka talking shit about rivals is a huge PR miss though, yagoo probably had to dogeza a few times for forgiveness over the phone with the nizisanzi side or something
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfledcVE0BRDwgnom by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:15:41.863377Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta waitwhat ifnene was behind it all alonganother scandal happens again next monththen the nextuntil nene's the only one left in 5th genas revenge for not being as popular
       
 (DIR) Post #9yflh93pIf8dJZfJQW by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:16:09.378223Z
       
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       @Ricotta it worked with Towa because her biggest „sin” was panicking and lying about staff being present (which was also a mistake because it forced Cover to react). With dick sashimi, having recorded history of talking shit about Cover's rivals made them lose face which also demanded an action from their side. The fact that she broke the contract just gave them an opening to soften the blow though, even if it's dishonest.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfm175OLrzKyvv2kC by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:19:45.846416Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta people seem to not understand that hololives are representing Cover publicly on top of earning them money :cirnoSip:
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfm2NpVaHDvCY5ySG by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:19:59.968847Z
       
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       @hakui @roka That video wasn't produced when she was under contract with Cover as far as I'm aware, so I fail to see how it was Yagoo's problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmCB0U79fkKMtoKu by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:21:46.330142Z
       
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       @roka @hakui They tolerate Coco's shit because she earns them the most money, so reputation clearly isn't their top priority.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmIkYEsFVMIup0xE by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:22:56.794389Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui it doesn't work that way. This is a hyperbole but if you hire someone to be your public face and it turns out your new mascot is a serial rapist cannibal murderer who also cuts fingers of random people and puts green peppers in her cofe, you'd want to distance yourself from that „face” too.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmR6STJAg6Z26isi by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:24:27.826320Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui Cocock is a lightning rod, a stupid gaizin character and clearly knows how to play with the boundaries despite being a sperg. She also wasn't unethically airing industry's dirty laundry, at least to anybody's knowledge.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmUmXfIYJ1xAI5dA by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:25:07.614516Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta >She also wasn't unethically airing industry's dirty laundryrip in peace sio w
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmb17pzSawv8BQbQ by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:26:14.775415Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta Sio did nothing wrong except for having balls, it's all evil hackerman 5ch's fault
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmdBPAk457NhKAE4 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:26:38.606352Z
       
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       @roka @hakui Personally, I'd argue that shoving a 3D buttplug into 3D Marine on a stream is worse than suggesting that the competition is shady.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmh5gvvW54orUlVY by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:27:21.428394Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka the former is within their range of acceptable public image, the latter is not
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmiSWEXZ1luI8v8C by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:27:35.465232Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui she got bitched about it at by manager-san but the joke is already accepted enough after asacoco so it didn't hurt her or the company's image
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmsIJDM7458Yk8Wm by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:29:22.276791Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka "aight y'all can be degenerates on stream, just don't give me any legal issues alright"said legal issues also caused them to take down non-nintendo let'splays
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmwZrQ2asqjNmh8K by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:30:09.309701Z
       
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       @roka @hakui It'll hurt her and the company when it gets Youtube to crack down on them. Talking shit about Nijisanji not so much.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfmyurQvw3GRPuFmq by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:30:34.258300Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta they also weren't in the clear with Nintendo but ninny graciously allowed them to keep the videos until a proper agreement is reached
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfn2pp1brVlyJeGGm by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:31:16.721590Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka youtube is stupid gaizin platform they're forced to use, they'll cross the bridge when they get to ityour mascot shitting on a fellow industry player, however,
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfn4QMPFKRXaE1IuG by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:31:34.267232Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui she already attracted the ire of the virgin youtube-kun, it resulted in Cocock drowning in shekels :cirnoShrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfn78jxDL6NnuKTw0 by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T06:32:03.467306Z
       
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       @march @roka @hakui link?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfn7DHmJWXDtyBYDA by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T06:32:04.392947Z
       
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       @hakui @roka There's a big range of degeneracy that can fly under the radar. Matsuri and Watame creeping on lolis is one thing. Sexually explicit shit like Coco pulls is another issue altogether, and the fact that she says degenerate shit in English makes it that much worse.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfnAOSDFMw3PNaAKG by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:32:38.838845Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui she clearly did this on purpose btw - in similar fashion to how Mito tested what triggers youtube-kun with that video where she kept insulting it and doing things with background and using herself to censor pantsu
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfnQDEIkLhVEJcPL6 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:35:30.419279Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricottascreenshot.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfnT93ciPIh9u1Rxo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:36:02.507597Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta classic chinese power struggle tactic
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfncyRn1DUL9D0qgK by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T06:37:48.574453Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta @hakui >unethically airing industry's dirty laundryHow can this be done unethically?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfnkqQEjuCuZi2V0q by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:39:13.745023Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui I'm not sure how this works in the west but the general idea even over here is that you don't talk about what happens in a workplace or market in general. Same goes for discussing the pa – it's a matter of mutual trust.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfo14PIVnCga7KxDU by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T06:42:09.770167Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui with that part of the video, it wasn't even something that harmed. She just didn't like how industry uses certain clauses and felt they infringe on her freedom so, after having accepted the contract, she just sperged out and discussed them publicly. She wasn't directly harmed by them, it only made her untrustworthy.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfo70ebNY6Yg9KNA8 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T06:43:14.777828Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta exactly, if you're leaking industry stuff it better be "people are going to jail for this" sort of severity, not some seasoning packet salt
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfpnsbZHR3K7bul8a by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:02:11.977425Z
       
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       @hakui @roka @Ricotta ehhhh, based on your descriptions it does not seem that she did anything wrong. If she was punished for it then fuck them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqjE3UCWhf9fJki8 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:12:33.105528Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @hakui @Ricotta the official reason for suspension was her forgetting to delete a test stream - it was inaccessible but thumbnail remained and it was most definitely her fault. In reality, discovery of her talking shit about competition and industry coupled with an enormous appetite led to a shitstorm and the suspension was probably meant to let it simmer down while potentially showing nijisanji that she is not getting away with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqjbPbMT3lauqEsK by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:12:37.359322Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka technically true, but if you don't get what's the big deal you won't make it as a successful business owner in asia
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqp38xgQaD3Beirg by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:13:37.013231Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui The test stream issue is entirely the responsibility of her manager.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqv19S0Ep0bqjKzo by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:14:41.134162Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui it was an account under her control, she had the trigger. Manager was neglient but it was she who ultimately is at fault there.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqxqhBKmml38rFMu by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:15:11.983822Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka @MisakaMikoto technically true, but if you don't know why that was given as the reason for termination instead of bringing up her talking shit you won't make it as a successful business owner in asia
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfqxwZxSYZXITWYwS by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:15:12.837757Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta @hakui if anything their mafia-like tactics and lack of transparency are the issue here.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr0HARsnK7jLhjoO by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:15:38.811492Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @roka and nothing of value was lost..
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr4ZRJtCs5Yhdy2S by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:16:24.969769Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui I would assume that command responsibility is a thing in Japan too.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr4kfu7K4cP7YGnY by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:16:26.769133Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka you can go back to twitch
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr5iG6aN5VCTwVuq by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:16:36.749545Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui what mafia tactics?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr6iLDlS1FkIoTUu by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:16:48.601899Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta @hakui did her suspension expire yet by the way?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfr8omgmREcJ8fFMO by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:17:11.094845Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui yeah, but she resigned
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrD31HnMaRcHVbUG by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:17:57.268302Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @roka you and roka can go suck a cock tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrFDjYvnclQPFr6W by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:18:20.456206Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @hakui @Ricotta I don't like sashimi, sorry
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrHYlhhEUfF2N74a by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:18:46.025119Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka 帰れ
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrHbGGQa7wyOgXz6 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:18:46.233001Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui Just butt plug tails for you, eh?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrK715Kkg62Umcz2 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:19:13.431331Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui I would assume she was told to delete it, onus would've been on her to actually do it (and manager to make sure she did but to a lesser degree)
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrVOey4oujwboqh6 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:21:15.646967Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui I don't really like that lizard though1598541846438-jp.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrbnGZVGI1zuSTHk by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:22:25.343352Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui >tfw no Miko any time soonWhy is she in the hospital, anyway?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfreHYHs9xsVRvnHM by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:22:51.866582Z
       
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       @Ricotta @roka @MisakaMikoto that one chair accident?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrkjY6h1Uf4ivIX2 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:24:02.038882Z
       
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       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @roka That was Luna, and she's fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrmmH9WiOQ6uy3Em by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:24:23.847672Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @roka ah okayno idea then
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrnWH4VLf0lzHdUu by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:24:32.300548Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto that was Luna. Miko is unknown but speculated to be related to her health issues mentioned in the past.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrp0l2eaIZba0rz6 by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:24:48.248271Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @roka kys turd
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfruRkJjsxUkvGY8u by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:25:47.244409Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka lol ok gaizin
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfrvh6e7FZUgTIy8W by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:26:00.638012Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MisakaMikoto @hakui @Ricotta I miss Mikoti ;;1598770237588-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsCUHz1UBTr5cDpo by zemichi@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:29:02.756778Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Ricotta @hakui @roka It's the bubble. I think if there's one thing to compare vtubers to it's professional wrestling.  Hitting someone with a chair is ok in the bubble, hitting someone with a chair outside of the bubble is not.Coco does get a pass because she foreign and her character is already edgy for just being a Yakuza dragon.  That's just the way things are.The only thing vtubers really have to worry about is someone in Japan trying to clamp down on them.  The person who started the cancelling of of the big boobed Uzaki also tried to cancel Kizuna Ai.  It's hard to imagine how it would start because none of the edgy vtubers go on tv.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsHQQOokjhJnuGR6 by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:29:56.502348Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @roka k gook, enjoy your shithole
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsO42CSkBLu3kkuu by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:31:08.318465Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @roka @hakui @MisakaMikoto Is that past health issue THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsOls7TaGLrXNKJU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:31:16.660861Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka i'm already here in the shithole, it's you that needs to leave
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsXbFmKBCnXJeRdI by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:32:52.191978Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @zemichi @hakui @roka >tried to cancel Kizuna AiWhere's the problem?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfsqgN7WCzoufBVom by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:36:18.316393Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui according to anon, the current health issue is Mikoti carrying his children.But more seriously, Mikoti's suffering from something she was born with and it's possible she went to the hospital in regards to it. It didn't sound urgent and more like something she was putting off for a while.Unlike the leech, she isn't talking details for sympathy though (but there was a 35P-only stream)
       
 (DIR) Post #9yft5Pgrp2HRWIRfqy by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:38:58.379913Z
       
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       @hakui @Ricotta @roka your mommy is probably getting korean D inside of her right now. Are you masturbating to their moans?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftCT8HQGrkDrdEki by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T07:40:14.962917Z
       
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       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka not really, your salt is more entertaining
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftE27EqEfV0itH60 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:40:32.189408Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MisakaMikoto @hakui @Ricotta1598746587295-jp.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftGLsgKGaQtHBgOm by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:40:57.119457Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta1598745010023-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftLJGjStEsElnj0a by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2020-08-31T07:41:50.701769Z
       
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       @Ricotta @zemichi @hakui @roka they will come for the dog next
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftQ40HeGMiLBNFpI by MisakaMikoto@enigmatic.observer
       2020-08-31T07:42:42.994617Z
       
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       @roka @hakui @Ricotta boing boing
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftQmZvv51eaUOLVA by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:42:50.429212Z
       
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       @fluffy @hakui @roka @zemichi Over my dead body.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftSu01IgjMBKbWqm by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:43:13.786889Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui Why does Marine always look so wrong in 3D?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftWlSJ0YMkqGfzcW by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2020-08-31T07:43:54.832120Z
       
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       @Ricotta @hakui @roka @zemichi so stop them at kizuna aiquit being so reactive, your opponents know what they are doing
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftZcCpr0A51Xnda4 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:44:26.137390Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @fluffy @Ricotta @hakui @zemichi how? There's no attack vector other than her treating EOPs like trained monkeys for her own amusement acknowledging gaizin viewers.1598746651935-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yftvvRX0mfh3cJOzo by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:48:27.425031Z
       
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       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui it's mostly the contrast with other models, she looks fine when alone other than her granny movement. Hologra looks fine in general but it's animated.1598540562740-jp.png
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfu3iLXaXrykuDwDQ by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:49:52.539306Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui The body just seems wrong on top of the unnatural movement.I think the tits probably have a lot to do with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfucXVnrXv1Hwd7SK by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:56:09.733872Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui boing boing1596946901644-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfuk3rtxcU5fQYLb6 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:57:31.652135Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Ricotta @MisakaMikoto @hakui success breeds jealousy1598245013284-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfun9COb9Mn4IbuYi by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2020-08-31T07:58:04.602255Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta @hakui @zemichi isn’t she the one who keep getting banned from youtube?
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfutKHyHMOlCVAGvI by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T07:59:12.429864Z
       
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       @roka @MisakaMikoto @hakui They're shaped wrong, don't move right, and don't even seem to be in the right place.They need to scrap her model and have someone who knows human anatomy remake it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfuwzZtDwbw7oIHrs by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T07:59:51.531735Z
       
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       @fluffy @Ricotta @hakui @zemichi no she's the nerd who plays Banjo Kazooie in the dark room until 4 in the morning, stopping only because she chewed through the AV cables had technical difficulties
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfuyobuyGNMgp70DY by zemichi@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T08:00:11.555202Z
       
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       @roka @fluffy @Ricotta @hakui ChinaAll forms of Japanese media are under threat because China has an anti anime stance.  If China gets worse they're going to clamp down on foreign media because it's one of the major exports of Japan.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfv2vWlCElbIfez56 by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T08:00:56.228033Z
       
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       @fluffy @Ricotta @hakui @zemichi forgot pic1598542382569-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfv7hQd2jjx1N4GcS by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2020-08-31T08:01:48.343761Z
       
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       @roka @fluffy @hakui @zemichi She also agreed to be everyone's wife in exchange for a new fridge.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfvDabDLa5HZtpNIG by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T08:02:51.674032Z
       
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       @zemichi @Ricotta @fluffy @hakui the gremlin did nothing wrong though1598772995584-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfvJtWRu7b80LbaeO by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T08:04:00.214628Z
       
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       @Ricotta @fluffy @hakui @zemichi and still cucks all of her husbands with Okayu1598542488423-jp.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfvflAhdHukTZrN0y by fluffy@social.handholding.io
       2020-08-31T08:07:57.573289Z
       
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       @roka @Ricotta @hakui @zemichi did she buy a new fridgeor just simp that money to another vtuber
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfxpE31qBdUY4uaPY by fp@fuwa.pink
       2020-08-31T08:32:03.654187Z
       
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       @roka R.I.P. SEXJuly 2020 - August 2020
       
 (DIR) Post #9yfy2Rlg8mzGrj6JDE by march@neckbeard.xyz
       2020-08-31T08:34:17.924206Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @fp @roka 50% funny 50% sadHusky_1598862838208_RHUBBD6X95.png
       
 (DIR) Post #9yg9KWVUMLWoGsLlbM by qtd3n@kawen.space
       2020-08-31T10:40:59.213960Z
       
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       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka >waaah you're not defending a corp, she's disrupting the wa!! muh contracts! muh nihonjin respect! unspoken rules!to think this attitude is on fedi unironically is the funniest shit, esp. given the ranting about cancel culture or whatever when people get fired for daring to exercise their right to speech. insert meme of being unable to choose between defending a piece of shit like damore but not a vtuber.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygARcNp0esCTfi8Q4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T10:53:28.309503Z
       
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       @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka same goes to you. imagine defending a shittalking vtuber but not damoretwo can play the side-taking game
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygBNekwLTEadICOyu by qtd3n@kawen.space
       2020-08-31T11:03:57.385589Z
       
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       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka i don't think damore should have been fired, but even then there are differences; the accusation is that he created an unsafe work environment with his memo, which impacts fellow workers. it doesn't need anything to do with contracts, even if that's the position that google defenders take.this matter, in contrast, is about "airing dirty laundry" as a violation of a contract and some 'unspoken rules'. criticizing your company in a way that brings attention to its bad practices should not get you fired.besides that, i'm not beyond admitting personal differences of opinion in qualitatively different situations. side taking is fine, but that doesn't mean both sides are equal.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygCVMIKy4PZeA3aRU by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T11:16:33.215159Z
       
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       @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka ok ladnow go back to twitch
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygJyAuP4yKkPWY9VA by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T12:40:12.219522Z
       
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       @qtd3n @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta Damore was an employee fired for voicing "wrong" opinions. Aloe was hired as a performer and company's "face" and resigned from it following a suspension period and an apology for leaking her character data before debut, which constituted a breach of contract between her and Cover/hololive.After her previous identity was found, she came under fire for several reasons: likely well-meaning prior disclosure of confidential details of a contract in late-ish 2019 – the company is undisclosed and at the time she was a seemingly random utaite with no visible corporate ties, in the video she mentioned having yet to debut by the end of 2019 (meaning she likely was fresh after signing it and agreeing to "black" clauses) but it could be about Cover/hololive since it's known that 5th generation's debut was delayed and character designer was wondering when they're going to use it (however the rules she describes don't add up to what hololive members do); the test video is from May btw – and describing circumstances leading to graduation of nijisanji's Chitose that are contrary to what Chitose herself stated. She used the latter to support her thesis about industry being overly restrictive and unethical in treatment  – but this is unsourced information that doesn't make sense and which she had no business discussing – it's Chitose's business, especially since she's doing her own career in music now.There's also a matter of her exceedingly obscene behaviour online (including possible mentions of underage prostitution if dox is correct about her age) but this is used as a justification only by a small group of unicorns. Even if it's hilarious given that her character was supposed to be a succubus.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygKJxo4TP0c96yfhI by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T12:44:08.668289Z
       
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       @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @hakui the funniest thing about this is that in that video discussing industry she even mentioned that she should probably clean after herself online considering the nature of her chuba job – she didn't and it ended like it did :cirnoShrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygKnazbrKkg4rVKDo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T12:49:29.719280Z
       
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       @roka @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta adding on, damore's memo was intended for internal circulation while aloe publicly shat on what might or might not have been another vtuber company in the industry
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygL78cp2SfntAAEyG by qtd3n@kawen.space
       2020-08-31T12:53:01.414843Z
       
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       @hakui @roka @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta oh the horror, shitting on a company and leaking some unreleased material. yep, now *this* is worth harassment and losing your income stream!cancel culture but now that it's the companies doing it, the wa must be preserved!
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygLERK1vFo1u3r84W by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T12:54:20.946153Z
       
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       @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka yes, it's called not burning bridges with other industry players, you'd understand if you worked anywhere larger than a coffee shop
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygLPtCSc5cXYBm6qW by qtd3n@kawen.space
       2020-08-31T12:56:24.762373Z
       
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       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka what is this even supposed to mean? in fact, I have more criticisms of twitch and patreon etc. than I do pretty much any japanese company. i don't watch people play video games like a loser.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygLXYh2jzJwGajjxg by qtd3n@kawen.space
       2020-08-31T12:57:48.008537Z
       
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       @hakui @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka i do work somewhere larger than a coffee shop, and if she burns bridges, that's her responsibility. firing her over dumb shit is not. the fact that she is beholden to some megacorps is the issue here.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygLc45TxZe8nBJhI0 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-08-31T12:58:36.707987Z
       
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       @qtd3n @MisakaMikoto @Ricotta @roka >the fact that she is beholden to some megacorps is the issue here.yes that's what a contract does
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygkEIufgVhqg31iSW by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
       2020-08-31T17:34:26.546486Z
       
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       @zemichi I have a very rough understanding of the context, but it would seem the harassers were from other vtubers, is hololive cannibalising itself? :02_think: @deadheat @hakui @roka
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygnPUf8dlkyAJmwds by zemichi@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T18:10:04.957973Z
       
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       @Elfie @deadheat @hakui @roka One of the 5th gens didn't cover their follow lists so identities leaked out.  Aloes account was found and she was talking like a thot and gossiping about other vtubers and companies.I'm 99 percent sure that the official reason given wasn't the real reason for suspending her.  The one thing that stuck out to me was the gossiping about other vtubers because there's a lot of people looking for a flamewar and the companies themselves aren't really against that.For example when the gacha Azur Lane started out in Japan kancolle devs were talking shit about them and it did cause flamewars on people associated with Azur Lane.  You have to keep in mind that between Hololive and Nijisanji there are some big promotional deals and companies with them.  If you keep Aloe you run the risk of people starting shit and they will start shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygrb8dekZil9Qu4IK by roka@pl.smuglo.li
       2020-08-31T18:57:00.646232Z
       
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       @zemichi @Elfie @deadheat @hakui a bit more complex than that. Some autists recognised Nene's newly uploaded art and decided to dig up her private twatter account. On it, she just followed a series of twitter accounts, some of which were used by previously existing personalities (one of them was mega who was long known to have been Nobuhime; Aloe's twatter was the >SEX ALL DAY EVERY DAY account but they uncovered her more from there).Nene didn't do it on purpose, it's just unfortunate that someone recognised her gay artstyle and dug from there.
       
 (DIR) Post #9yguZqZ0laaEfKo3zU by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
       2020-08-31T19:30:23.428311Z
       
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       @roka @zemichi @deadheat @hakui I don't trust Nene :cirno_think:Husky_1598902201403_76ADNUX27U.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #9ygzZB1ph0rzcLmsUK by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
       2020-08-31T20:26:18.532808Z
       
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       @deadheat @roka @hakui @zemichi ねこドッペルゲンガー
       
 (DIR) Post #9yhTImE38gU6gTb7GS by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2020-09-01T01:59:29.421886Z
       
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       @roka @zemichi @Elfie @deadheat >Nene didn't do it on purposeor did she??? humuhumu