Post 9ybNNrx5ViUVDcwvIG by xorman@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9ybED1aeR8uoL1D0tc by thegibson@hackers.town
2020-08-29T01:41:32Z
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Everybody's freaking out that fediverse apps are being removed from Google, and I'm all over here like "Good."
(DIR) Post #9ybJFOtPGkRyxXvxRY by cwdolunt@mastodon.social
2020-08-29T02:23:26Z
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@thegibson Subway Tooter and Fedilab both got notices to fix or get removed in 1 week. Neither app blocks any instances to my knowledge, but Google doesn't specifically say that lack of instance blocking is the reason for the warning.
(DIR) Post #9ybJFPMpVLzCQnhSIy by thegibson@hackers.town
2020-08-29T02:26:33Z
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@cwdolunt This is what I am concerned about.Is the entire fediverse considered hate speech?I mean Dethveggie got banned from twitter for talking about punching Nazis.
(DIR) Post #9ybJFPle15prflJGz2 by seb@ioc.exchange
2020-08-29T02:34:49Z
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@thegibson @cwdolunt Hate speech is defined by local law. Therefore, app stores need to differentiate by user’s location to have any legal grounds. Are they doing that or do they block globally because they don’t want to wait for the law to catch up?
(DIR) Post #9ybJFQYv3tFc8aMcmu by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-29T02:38:30.886113Z
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@seb @thegibson @cwdolunt hate speech is a meme. it means whatever the speaker wants it to mean, when the speaker wants an excuse to censor stuff.
(DIR) Post #9ybJnku5wGbr4UdaEa by alrs@lsngl.us
2020-08-29T02:44:33Z
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@seb @thegibson @cwdolunt Reminder that there is no such thing as "hate speech" in US law. If racist spew were to have any classification in the United States, it would be "protected speech."
(DIR) Post #9ybJwroHdAfr65GQ7M by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-29T02:46:24.943757Z
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@icedquinn @seb @cwdolunt @thegibson Hate speech is a meme used to control dissent
(DIR) Post #9ybK6L2QKZloLvOV9c by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-29T02:48:06.579457Z
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@izarella @cwdolunt @seb @thegibson ye. when people started rolling this meme out i looked at what they put on their terms of service, and its almost never defined.and there is inherent insincerety and hamster wheels involved. for example, the people big braining about how "ITS NOT A SLUR WHEN WE DO IT!!" and facebook explicitly exempting the "dangerous individual" hit list from their hate speech rules.
(DIR) Post #9ybKCEjGhTv0WVFN6u by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-29T02:49:10.598806Z
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@izarella @cwdolunt @seb @thegibson rekieta discussed again last night about how making death threats to people is actually well defined in the laws (by contrast.)
(DIR) Post #9ybKJYvhzdd1CYYiX2 by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-29T02:50:30.446616Z
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@icedquinn @cwdolunt @seb @thegibson It's literally just countries/companies trying to pretend they have free speech to keep the electorate/users from revolting while not actually having it, so they can silently put down political dissent without consequences.
(DIR) Post #9ybKNSBf0KaPRosMM4 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-29T02:51:12.966955Z
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@izarella @cwdolunt @seb @thegibson worse, its air cover for politically motivated censorship.
(DIR) Post #9ybKTdNyHV0Puua6DY by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-29T02:52:16.223332Z
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@icedquinn @cwdolunt @seb @thegibson You see it in countries with "hate speech" laws.They let the corporatist/neoliberal view say whatever it wants but shut down "hate speech" from the other sides.
(DIR) Post #9ybKUStGmtLRekcJaC by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-29T02:52:24.912273Z
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@izarella @icedquinn @cwdolunt @seb @thegibsonHusky_1598669536301_39OCYCJC5L.jpg
(DIR) Post #9ybKZNApTC1RNFAd9s by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-29T02:53:22.386763Z
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@sjw @cwdolunt @icedquinn @seb @thegibson I'd free her speeches if you know what I mean.
(DIR) Post #9ybLG5T9Ae4Ous6eLQ by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-29T03:00:53.210945Z
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@izarella @cwdolunt @icedquinn @seb @thegibsonHusky_1598670049210_L30JLRRV4J.jpg
(DIR) Post #9ybNNrx5ViUVDcwvIG by xorman@mastodon.social
2020-08-29T03:23:35Z
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@thegibson imagine using google play lol
(DIR) Post #9ybOcEWCVRRDDPmoGe by aurynn@cloudisland.nz
2020-08-29T02:05:48Z
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@thegibson wait they’re what
(DIR) Post #9ybOcFQD9CF017zXZQ by thegibson@hackers.town
2020-08-29T02:06:43Z
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@aurynn yeah, the report is from an instance that is widely blocked... so may be nothing?
(DIR) Post #9ybOcGZSsHEla7KRdJ by aurynn@cloudisland.nz
2020-08-29T02:07:47Z
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@thegibson oh gosh if Google is actually saying devs have to ban hateful instances at the app levelThis is the best news of todayMaybe we can get Apple to do it too
(DIR) Post #9ybOcHe6sUXyuoVfVo by dym@dym.sh
2020-08-29T03:38:39.155764Z
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@aurynn @thegibson with enough reports any instance can become “hateful”.its not like google gonna check if one 3rd party correctly policing another 3rd party,as seen from brigading onto youtube channels – and those are on google properties!
(DIR) Post #9ycUKOicdWlCWPR1No by theruran@hackers.town
2020-08-29T08:09:12Z
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@thegibson wait a minute... we shouldn't take them at their word. Isn't it more likely they removed Mastodon clients so that it's harder for anarchists to organize after being banned from Facebook/Twitter? These tech corporations are crypto-fascist, so they ban fascists in name only.
(DIR) Post #9ycUKPCOqoa00lMnnU by thegibson@hackers.town
2020-08-29T14:45:09Z
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@theruran all depends on how it is used.We can always use a browser... until they start blocking access to the fediverse because google threatens to delist browser apps as well.I suspect a private DoH and a browser will likely be the only valid method soon.
(DIR) Post #9ycUKPswIebi8hGm6S by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2020-08-29T15:05:45Z
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@TheGibson @theruran I'm old enough to remember having to work out my own routes to Internet resources via a University network as an unusual/incomplete form of DNS was used at UK Unis during the early 1990s as a form of gatekeeping, it doesn't surprise me that people may need to relearn these techniques..