Post 9yajUNPdSSHSMXqn0C by freemo@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #9yZSKbcVt1Xf9VfY92 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:10:44Z
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Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/most fediverse apps from google play on the grounds that that some servers in the fediverse engage in hate speech. At least three apps I know of anyway and I'd imagine the others will follow soon under the exact same reasoning.} Seems to be the case with Husky, Fedilab, and "subway" tooter.this is a scary precedent if google play is going to ban any apps that can in any way be used to access content with hate speech. So what about a forum client, do they take that down just because there is a forum somewhere on the internet posting hate speech?This is particularly worrisome because for most people Google Play is the only way they understand to install apps at all.Picture attached of one of the notices received by fedilab.https://toot.fedilab.app/@fedilab/104761140268193772https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/104763960269049818@fedilab @tateisu #fediverse #mastoadmin #freespeech #censorship
(DIR) Post #9yZSOHhLtit0WXgdLE by khird@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:11:26Z
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@freemo I think this is basically an ultimatum to the app maintainer to "implement a block on Gab".
(DIR) Post #9yZSPlRwlfED5PBd6O by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:11:44Z
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@khird Gab isnt even part of the fediverse and hasnt been for some time now.
(DIR) Post #9yZSX4McqN8Vm5BHCS by kline@cmpwn.com
2020-08-28T05:13:08Z
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@freemo this happened to Clover, an imageboard client, because it supported access to 4chan - a site that Google considered unpalatable.At the time, it was mostly cheered by a lot of the same people as use mastodon. It's unfortunate the precedent has come full circle.
(DIR) Post #9yZSc2DOGEl0YdEFZA by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:14:01Z
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@kline funny how they dont apply that same logic to their own apps. If they were to truly be fair they would have to take down Chrome from play store on the grounds that it can be used to access 4chan.
(DIR) Post #9yZScPYnSoXwxgQAcq by Feddylain@shitposter.club
2020-08-28T05:14:08.843353Z
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@khird @freemo aren't most of those apps blocking gab?
(DIR) Post #9yZSdVC806omj4L1jU by khird@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:14:18Z
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@freemo Gab doesn't federate (i.e. they broke server-to-server communication) but as far as I'm aware you can still use Husky to log in (i.e. client-to-server communication still works). Tusky has a "feature" that I think directs you to a deradicalisation page if you try to log into an account on Gab, but the Husky derivative removed that block.
(DIR) Post #9yZShfH0TE1H8ubZ9k by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:14:54Z
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@Feddylain Not sure at the moment.. fedilab used to very briefly a while ago but then reverted that change.. as far as I know they never added the block back.@khird
(DIR) Post #9yZSqH3JtMMgd6JAxc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:16:26Z
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@khird ahh yes, that may be true.. but there is plenty of hate speech on other servers too, some just as bad or worse than gab... how far will they take this, do app maintainers really need to be int he business of maintaining a mile long block list?
(DIR) Post #9yZT2nAEKOyhhFVeT2 by kline@cmpwn.com
2020-08-28T05:18:51Z
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@freemo to be fair, I suspect this could be a time of reckoning for the fediverse. The willingness of people to draw instant parallels between software ("FOR ANY PURPOSE") and the beliefs and moral values of the users.In the past, large swathes of the fediverse have written off pleroma and pleroma users as undesirable, regardless of whether that was true or not, because of a small element who were.Google has now decided that fediverse apps, it seems, are likewise undesirable because of a small number of non-representative users. First we have sown, now we reap.
(DIR) Post #9yZTC5BufmZcDGj83k by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:20:31Z
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@kline Yea, what goes around comes around.. for many this will be a taste of their own medicine...
(DIR) Post #9yZTKF3DtkHL6qYKlU by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:21:45Z
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@master honestly if this rule were universally applied then any app with a social element would pretty much have to get axed at that point.
(DIR) Post #9yZTOxNt0gJBlUSxVo by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-28T05:22:54.726053Z
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@kline @freemo This shit is pretty terrifying.
(DIR) Post #9yZTQ24165E0ZGgXLM by ramob@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:22:57Z
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@freemo just wait until they hear about the internet and what you can say in a phone call or send in a messaging app.
(DIR) Post #9yZTYVBGizyJBn7F2G by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:24:26Z
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@izarella Yup it is, and people wonder why I'm so pro free speech, this right here is a prime example! The ironic thing is I have received a lot of hate and blocks from voicing my pro free speech stance, the very stance that would oppose this sort of injustice that effects them in the first place.
(DIR) Post #9yZTaN3TuGfSZEMf0C by izarella@anime.website
2020-08-28T05:24:57.584035Z
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@freemo Lol everyone has me blocked already I think
(DIR) Post #9yZTeHejvEGMyrepfs by khird@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:25:34Z
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@freemo The only reasonable model I see if Google takes a hard line on this is for apps to maintain a whitelist of known well-moderated instances, given how easy it is to set up a cheap instance to troll from. And if the app developer is supposed to be personally responsible for the content accessible through the app, then he'll probably only whitelist an instance he has control over. So you'll have a QOTO app, Gargron will have a Mastodon Social app, &c. If Google doesn't like some instance's moderation policy they ban its app.
(DIR) Post #9yZTgyfuwvQwysUdCC by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:26:02Z
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@izarella In that case I'm tempted to follow you, if you are truly blocked by **both** sides (liberals and conservatives) that must mean you must actually have your own unique opinions :)
(DIR) Post #9yZTnk0HtbgrVOFJcO by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:27:08Z
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@khird haha that would be a mess, there would be thousands of mastodon apps all virtually identical forks of eachother on google play at that point.
(DIR) Post #9yZUSLsYUnemYZzh9U by khird@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:34:35Z
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@freemo Yup. Google's starting assumption is that the app and the service are controlled by the same organisation (and this is actually a valid assumption in most proprietary, and even several FOSS, apps). So consequently they can punish you for mismanagement of your service by interdicting your app. Now we come along with our federated peg and it doesn't fit neatly into their hole for siloed apps, and their assumption breaks down.
(DIR) Post #9yZUjpuU5tIGcTEXei by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T05:37:42Z
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@khird Yupits the slippery slope of censorship.. Censorship never works so you have to get more and more drastic in the hopes of silencing the unwanted material. Eventually you have as more collateral damage than productive censorship.
(DIR) Post #9yZXAzm1jHCswDM7dI by admin@social.linux.pizza
2020-08-28T06:05:09Z
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@freemo They better take down all the webbrowsers, email-clients, chat-apps, games,Well, everything since it can be abused in that way.
(DIR) Post #9yZXFKrfFuYFVb3vGa by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T06:05:55Z
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@admin Yea my thought exactly.
(DIR) Post #9yZZQswB77fiHFoC4O by madargon@mastodon.online
2020-08-28T06:30:17Z
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@freemo @khird A lot of hate and aggression is on random websites... So is this the time to ban all browsers? Or shut down the internet as a whole, problems would dissappear. Or create something like Great Chinese Firewall... is this direction world want to choose?
(DIR) Post #9yZZTVMLEUrE1JINLE by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T06:30:47Z
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@madargon Yea its absurd!@khird
(DIR) Post #9yZaD3Es7Gr07vWHlg by replikvlt@ms.neko.bar
2020-08-28T06:39:10.059Z
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@madargon@mastodon.online @freemo@qoto.org @khird@qoto.org just write a feedback on chrome play store page already
(DIR) Post #9yZaadtVzw3kTLmO5w by nipos@social.avareborn.de
2020-08-28T06:43:26Z
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@freemo They should just ban all open source apps so that we have a good reason to force everyone to use the F-Droid store and stop using Google shit.
(DIR) Post #9yZbUUkjApgUKvIlgO by Khrys@mamot.fr
2020-08-28T06:53:23Z
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@freemo A good argument to promote F-Droid
(DIR) Post #9yZbZ215RQjef27Ih6 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T06:54:12Z
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@Khrys does f-droid have any sort of screening process for apps though? I'd imagine they must have some criteria too.
(DIR) Post #9yZdRkYy8PLIPXcX7A by khird@qoto.org
2020-08-28T07:15:21Z
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@freemoKind of. It's another case where the app is not necessarily controlled by the same people as the service is. You can subscribe to any repository you wish from F-Droid by entering its URL. By default, the app ships with two repositories enabled: one hosted by the app maintainers and one hosted by the Guardian Project, but there are others you can find online.Criteria for inclusion into a repository are set by the repository owners. The F-Droid repository hosts only open source apps, and the Guardian Project repository hosts only Guardian Project apps. As far as I know, the app itself enforces no restrictions on the content it will allow a user to access.@Khrys
(DIR) Post #9yZlE7Be1Rtw9lihOK by sebsauvage@framapiaf.org
2020-08-28T08:42:25Z
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@freemo Wait... WHAT?
(DIR) Post #9yZlvimI8SI5CAedHc by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T08:50:22Z
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@freemo fedi moderation depends entirely on which instance you're on, which makes it a bit unique as far as social media is concerned. one could argue that the same should apply to irc clients, since there is probably hate speech somewhere on there too, but since chat is probably one of the things google's policies are designed to handle, they probably won't be affected by this.
(DIR) Post #9yZmlWUz2AxaAdGAF6 by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T08:59:44Z
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@freemo @kline except chrome doesn't provide a list of websites (which i believe many if not all of these apps do) and if they did, 4chan wouldn't be on it
(DIR) Post #9yZmqTxzsLa9lWCAaW by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T09:00:26Z
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@freemo @kline i doubt they would see the irony
(DIR) Post #9yZn74nyg9yueQQCKe by kranfahrer@mastodontech.de
2020-08-28T09:03:35Z
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hello @freemo Google is afraid of the fediverse growing! 🕵️♂️ I think: google and co are making a huge mistake.
(DIR) Post #9yZqXug6jqWCvMEF84 by hugh@ausglam.space
2020-08-28T09:41:56Z
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@freemo @kensanata Pretty galling coming from the home of YouTube extremists.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQpRC1YoiYI0BnM by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T08:53:06Z
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@freemo you do wonder how their policies deal with RSS readers, third-party browsers, etc, since they would also allow one to access hate speech.do these apps explicitly provide a list of instances? that may be part of the problem, since users (and google) may perceive this as endorsement of hate speech.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQpqiUfEXpRwZZw by airgoa@qoto.org
2020-08-28T09:06:28Z
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@thor @freemo By the logic of banning apps from Google Play that can be used to access hateful content, the first thing to go would be Chrome, which not only lets you access arbitrary content, but also provides direct access to Google so you can search for it!
(DIR) Post #9yZsQqAvHXOeq7Oi4e by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T09:10:06Z
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@airgoa @freemo i suspect that accessing arbitrary content that you are seeking out on your own is within their policy, otherwise all third-party browsers would be gone from google play by now.i think the core issue is actually the direct linking to instances where hate speech occurs, and it occurs often enough that the reviewers at google can easily find it through the app by adding a few random instances from the instance lists these apps typically include.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQqRwGH0XgtMIb2 by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T09:10:55Z
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@airgoa @freemo imagine if google.com provided a list that included hate speech websites. that would trigger public outrage pretty much instantaneously.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQrAxYt1JwWQFlo by airgoa@qoto.org
2020-08-28T09:35:30Z
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@thor @freemo I don't find that very plausible here. I've tried out some of those apps and didn't notice an instance list for starters, but what are they even linking to? Most servers, particularly Mastodon, seem to lean in the direction of not allowing a lot of controversial content, broader even than "hate speech," rather than towards free speech.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQrmBKUnJnxpymu by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T09:43:32Z
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@airgoa @freemo one of the google play warning screenshots i saw had a specific instance mentioned as being problematic, and it didn't seem to be a particularly prominent instance either, so you do wonder how google came across it.it's possible that federation is what got the apps into trouble.
(DIR) Post #9yZsQs6O7MxQodI7Hc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T10:03:05Z
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@thorId be curios to know which instance just out of curiosity. You can dm me if you want it to stay private.@airgoa
(DIR) Post #9yZsVhInhNXyliOkds by tursiops@tooting.ch
2020-08-28T10:04:03Z
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@freemo thank God there is f-droid ;)
(DIR) Post #9yZsXiReQ9totMV5I8 by curt@goneaway.social
2020-08-28T10:04:36Z
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@kranfahrer This was my first thought as well. It may have less to do with hate speech and more to do with users straying off the plantation to a part of the internet where Google has little influence.@freemo
(DIR) Post #9yZvPwXOROD294AhMm by levander@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T10:36:38Z
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@freemo Most of all, it's hypocritical. I mean: What about google chrome and gmail?
(DIR) Post #9yZx0TLE3RKyGOSk2i by ybaumy@foowar.de
2020-08-28T10:54:25Z
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@freemo Would be interesting to see, if mastodon would integrate Google Analytics if they would keep it on^^My opinion on this is, they just cannot make any money out of it or their centralized partners.About that hate speech argument. I am just waiting and standing by until Germany will prohibit decentralized services, because of that. We already have a new law enforcing platform owners or providers to take down posts using "hate speech"
(DIR) Post #9yZx1CiVLjhEzchT4i by efftoyz@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T10:54:40Z
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@freemo And of course these clients are the ONLY way to get access to these servers, you simply just can't use Chrome to access. 😕cc: @a1batross
(DIR) Post #9yZxY8d7Z6i7sFt0BU by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T11:00:00Z
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@freemo They should take down twitter and facebook clients too then, certainly the former is so much of speech it is hard to avoid. By comparison the fediverse is civilised. We are rivals to their data gathering empire, so we are an easy target / scapegoat.
(DIR) Post #9yZxxREvVmd6pZdKnw by maikek@eupublic.social
2020-08-28T11:05:05Z
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@freemo if this were a precedent then all twitter, facebook ... apps will be receiving that treatment too 🤔 ? #degoogle
(DIR) Post #9yZy6zBWfpfKiSayh6 by curt@goneaway.social
2020-08-28T11:07:00Z
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@izarella I can see you. 😄 @freemo
(DIR) Post #9yZzGUDEmc2tVUURJg by renatoram@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T11:19:33Z
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@freemo so why is Facebook still there?
(DIR) Post #9yZzQQvVr3TiDBwUqm by kranfahrer@mastodontech.de
2020-08-28T11:21:42Z
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@curt yeessss exactly! @freemo
(DIR) Post #9ya13dxFS0MTri0zFA by isi@princess.cat
2020-08-28T11:40:00.549885Z
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@freemo google should ban internet browsers too!Like someone else already proposed earlier this day :comfy:
(DIR) Post #9ya1UTdFwB5bfZSW6S by isi@princess.cat
2020-08-28T11:44:51.553653Z
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@freemo @izarella :blobcat3c: I kinda like that getting blocked by idiots already works as some kind of seal of quality
(DIR) Post #9ya5GgncaKVMGkzKmO by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T12:27:01Z
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@freemo What about *literally Facebook*
(DIR) Post #9ya5UwYcnFlZCElq8O by david@mastodon.davidpeach.co.uk
2020-08-28T12:29:36Z
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@freemo I will eagerly await the removal of Facebook and Twitter apps then. But wont hold my breath. #FuckGoogle
(DIR) Post #9ya6hQRBcrkdISo6gC by Thib@social.sitedethib.com
2020-08-28T12:42:06Z
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@freemo in addition the shit surrounding Husky's dev recently, I think all of those apps have made a point not to block Gab when other fediverse apps started doing this. I guess that may be the initial reason why they got reported or flagged to begin with?Now, while I do think blocking Gab and the such is a good thing, not blocking them should not be a sufficient reason to ban those apps… maybe there's another reason? I do not use these apps, maybe they come with a list of suggested instances or something, and have shitty instances in there?
(DIR) Post #9ya6trzZ0MMeELownw by sillystring@infosec.exchange
2020-08-28T12:45:25Z
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@freemo Google should ban email clients. Probably more hate spread via email than anything else.
(DIR) Post #9ya7X2KQVXjBaAFtPk by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2020-08-28T12:52:28Z
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@replikvlt @freemo @khird @madargon or better yet, flag them as inappropriate https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?visit_id=637342159017630272-4268623001&p=report_content&rd=1
(DIR) Post #9ya7xwYG5tt9U5YUYC by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T12:57:20Z
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@freemo There is more hate speech on Facebook and Twitter
(DIR) Post #9ya8jZxXOXjLJd5sQq by Meachamus_Prime@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T13:06:02Z
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@khird @freemo I've never heard a Rick roll video described as a deradicalization page before.
(DIR) Post #9ya8xiuKvDGf7fLChU by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T08:58:15Z
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@madargon @freemo @khird probably not google's intent. their policies are probably designed to handle the case of browsers, but i am assuming that, unlike browsers, many of these fedi apps provide a list of instances, and as numerous lawsuits have set a precedence for, you're responsible for what you link to. in the case of an in-app list, this can give the appearance that the app maintainer is endorsing all the instances listed.
(DIR) Post #9ya8xjnzaHmruHNeS0 by Meachamus_Prime@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T13:08:35Z
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@thor @madargon @freemo @khird Last I checked fedilab does not provide any list of servers, even as suggestions.
(DIR) Post #9ya90cFo7HnjM5lNWC by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T13:09:02Z
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@Meachamus_Prime @madargon @freemo @khird hm, makes you wonder how they found the bad content the
(DIR) Post #9yaAQFH4HE0FZJ8bGy by Meachamus_Prime@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T13:24:57Z
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@thor @madargon @freemo @khird Most likely by going directly to servers that are majority populated by groups, races, or nationalities of people they don't like. Guilt by association is a big thing at Google. Look at how they censor YouTube. All they believe they need to do to justify unpersoning app creators is attempt to access gab on their apps and if it's possible then they're automatically a #Nazi™ and don't deserve due process or free speech.
(DIR) Post #9yaBy4ZafbrEBAUmSe by STP_KITT@mastd.racing
2020-08-28T13:41:13Z
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@freemoThat's disgusting! Though thankfully there are still other sources to install apps from.
(DIR) Post #9yaCNFSTKugNB8AdaS by lopeztel@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T13:46:37Z
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@freemo this is such a bulshit argumen... have they ever taken a look at the comment section on YouTube? 🤦♂️
(DIR) Post #9yaCiVq7cqjU49N8Qy by danielfgom@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T13:50:26Z
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@freemo This is outrageous. And hypocritical. Might as well ban Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, all browsers, all email clients, twitter etc. i.e. any technology used to communicate
(DIR) Post #9yaCq0JwhEI0d0tVL6 by Rastal@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T13:51:40Z
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@freemoForget Google play store, use F-droid instead. Fedilab, Tusky, Husky, koyu.space, twitlatte, etc. There are tons of FOSS Mastodon apps on there, no ads, no tracking. Ditch Google.
(DIR) Post #9yaFfwPmfAInTtWBqi by Bishop@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T14:23:48Z
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@freemo @bigl0af Then they should take down twitter, Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp, Google messages, and YouTube too. Plenty of hate speech on ALL those apps.
(DIR) Post #9yaFllCpFbR8SFERGq by bigl0af@social.foxfam.club
2020-08-28T14:24:48.185996Z
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@Bishop don't forget email clients, text messaging apps, and web browsers!@freemo
(DIR) Post #9yaFtbqJwhnljTRqIy by robh@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T14:26:01Z
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@freemo Computers should be banned under that logic, because some people use them to type BAD WORDS!!No more input devices! Only the telescreen to stream at us!
(DIR) Post #9yaGWVmUPvuCE4CqCe by ppng@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T14:33:04Z
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@freemo lmao fedilab you little nazi.
(DIR) Post #9yaGzjOirzYKr51Rj6 by cadadr@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-08-28T14:38:25Z
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@freemo @khird That's exactly what caused a lot of turmoil in the not so distant past when some fedi users called a boycott on Fedilab, who refused to disallow access to Gab and the like.
(DIR) Post #9yaH1Wu6IDbegXYZXt by jospanner@anarchism.space
2020-08-28T14:38:42Z
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@freemo You can trust state and capital to appropriate social justice issues as a way of creating control and profit. The fediverse polices itself, and authoritarian types can't stand that.
(DIR) Post #9yaHSxHcK6WmJldMDg by rick_777@cybre.space
2020-08-28T14:43:38Z
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@freemo(Finally I realized, this wasn't to enforce an anti fascist agenda, it was all about control)I think all the Mastodon instance admins should write an open letter to Google to complain about this.And promote F-droid at the same time.@gargron @chr @stux
(DIR) Post #9yaHUhpijjykyoQ7N2 by x2ero@pforzelona.club
2020-08-28T14:44:00Z
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@freemoThis is crazy.So does any browser or email client.
(DIR) Post #9yaHp3zc3dkZUwkq00 by stux@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T14:46:33Z
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@rick_777 @freemo Wow that's very worrying.. Perhaps we need to do that yes. I wonder if Apple will follow..@Gargron @chr
(DIR) Post #9yaHp5YOFpAAL627qS by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2020-08-28T14:47:48Z
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@stux @rick_777 @freemo @Gargron @chr woah, this thread is currently at the top of Hackernews.
(DIR) Post #9yaIgx4lzS2dgRrdOC by Bumpkin@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T14:57:11Z
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@freemo What I find disturbing is the changing of the meaning of words. Who determines what "hate" is? Or Nazi? White supremacist? We are being brainwashed.
(DIR) Post #9yaIvmZNKpZfRUFYB6 by dick_turpin@mastodon.org.uk
2020-08-28T15:00:16Z
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@freemo Or someone at Google is being a duffus because those apps are not promoting anything unless they are stretching the point to "Allowing access to ...." which is hysterical because the WWW and Google in particular allow access to violence and hatred.
(DIR) Post #9yaJE3IXsSJwXO5bkG by hyphen@anime.website
2020-08-28T15:03:35.981335Z
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@freemo lmao take out your browser then, google
(DIR) Post #9yaJEJVBdDwInE7vfc by Rape@traboone.com
2020-08-28T15:03:39.085974Z
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@freemo Most likely, it’s a targeted report campaign and not a proactive move by Google.
(DIR) Post #9yaJFG0O7NMOEnAfM8 by sheetposter@kiwifarms.cc
2020-08-28T15:03:49.459094Z
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@freemo God look at all those morons in the thread that believe of pretend to believe that this is in any way, shape or form about "hate speech".
(DIR) Post #9yaJFetVa5iBQh91bU by pavot@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T15:03:53Z
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@freemo time to block internet browsers unless they start blacklisting websites
(DIR) Post #9yaJJCuVZBEPnVIvho by thatfightnerd@kiwifarms.cc
2020-08-28T15:04:32.207028Z
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@freemo That only makes sense if the content is in the app itself. Fuck this shit.
(DIR) Post #9yaJKbionsZh2RVK40 by q@glowers.club
2020-08-28T15:04:47.036227Z
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@khird @freemo Yet they can't see the connection that basically any stock android email app lets you login to "hate email services"...
(DIR) Post #9yaJOjRI3KfG8DGwHg by admin@social.inditoot.com
2020-08-28T15:05:31.520409Z
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@freemo You created some buzz around hahah loving it so far!
(DIR) Post #9yaJUXwFizKyCUWkWe by 2en@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T15:06:23Z
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@freemo Google will never support free speech if it threatens their bottom line.
(DIR) Post #9yaJrwWuSeDx84pUyO by Moon@shitposter.club
2020-08-28T15:10:48.842527Z
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@djsumdog @stux @rick_777 @freemo @Gargron @chr this means that someone with a friend at Google will be notified, this will be relatively quickly fixed, but no systemic change at Google will take place preventing this from happening again and again and again.
(DIR) Post #9yaKLmvKjyzy1YU7t2 by grumpy@anime.website
2020-08-28T15:16:11.835828Z
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@freemo brb rating chrome 1 star because i found a website that says the n word
(DIR) Post #9yaKwI3OTf54zsf18K by redneonglow@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T15:22:46.658709Z
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@madargon @freemo @khird I don't even bother with Fediverse apps. Pleroma works great on Firefox for Android.
(DIR) Post #9yaLXCmB3wORLLD5ai by devnull@mamot.fr
2020-08-28T15:29:26Z
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@freemo Did they ban twitter clients for hate speech? Because there's a lot…It's not the clients/dev job to block stupid fucks' instances. It's the admin job. By the way, it's not even effective, it's either a FLOSS client and you can remove the block or a proprietary client and you trust it, and it's an open door for shitload of abuses (No way to make sure it won't block other instances on whatever arbitrary criteria they choose, for political reasons, money, or something else… ).@khird
(DIR) Post #9yaM4TzI5jgIHQDBwm by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-08-28T15:35:29.517587Z
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@georgia > vexatiousniiiiice
(DIR) Post #9yaMH092MEYxUMjvsG by derek@gorf.pub
2020-08-28T15:37:45.362360Z
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@kline @freemo Or, Google has sown and now they will reap. The Fediverse and its future incarnations, are the future of social networking which has become a huge part of the internet and how people get their news. With this kind of pressure solutions will be produced. War time always brings with it great innovations.
(DIR) Post #9yaMbEyouV5bI6bzge by xorman@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T15:41:13Z
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@freemo what's worrisome is that for most people Google Play is the only way they understand to install apps at all.There's no point in making 卐oogle Play 'behave', and it's fine. Their market, their rules. Just make it obsolete.F-Droid is the way to go.You don't want a central party to keep a track on all the apps you install anyway.
(DIR) Post #9yaMyzF14ugJQbViIS by xorman@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T15:45:20Z
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@freemo in other news: 卐oogle Play blocks all browsers on the basis that they can be used to access hate speech.
(DIR) Post #9yaNxgr43K1c4JFjXM by vertigo@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T15:56:13Z
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@freemo I sure hope that they are going to take down Google Chrome too.
(DIR) Post #9yaOfCK2vuia7CYSeG by kline@cmpwn.com
2020-08-28T16:04:27Z
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@derek @freemo probably not
(DIR) Post #9yaOjyfv6I5pEl46q0 by compass_straight_edge@qoto.org
2020-08-28T16:04:58Z
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@freemo Weren't people in the US discussing about whether to classify companies do this as a "publisher" instead of a "host"?That would be interesting, google would have to either apply the same rules to all browsers and emails or just accepts the apps.
(DIR) Post #9yaOwxzawx9EstSglc by gioypi@qoto.org
2020-08-28T16:07:22Z
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@freemo Here, their official definition of hate speech:
(DIR) Post #9yaPGl02xxZUNc6sK0 by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-08-28T16:11:19.291321Z
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@georgia i was just complementing the vocabulary choice
(DIR) Post #9yaQYg0ONF1Q3ZNcHo by dallin@social.librem.one
2020-08-28T16:25:30Z
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@freemo following their flawed logic to its conclusion, they would have to shut down their own search engine because it could potentially allow people to access hate speech somewhere on the internet.
(DIR) Post #9yaRjPeLcj9STDkh4S by bonifartius@qoto.org
2020-08-28T16:38:35Z
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@freemo welp, that's what we get for the mobile os duopoly 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #9yaVB9ylmParq7E7k0 by jarek91@fosstodon.org
2020-08-28T17:17:18Z
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@freemo And this is exactly why I have been extricating myself from all things irrevocably bound to Google. F-Droid is going to be even more important as the corporate censorship gets more restrictive.
(DIR) Post #9yaVspGm8fRsLrTE8G by Minpwr@todon.nl
2020-08-28T17:24:56Z
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@freemo Isn't this old news?https://reclaimthenet.org/google-play-bans-gab-app/
(DIR) Post #9yaW3F9KlxL1VqxPDk by ocean@raru.re
2020-08-28T17:27:07Z
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@freemo Time for google to ban every internet browser ever made because they can also be used to access hate speech
(DIR) Post #9yaWENGGx8sFrBVgpc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:29:02Z
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@Minpwr Not sure how it is "old news" just because they banned some unrelated app back in the day for a different social media network. There is some similarity, sure, but there are some significant differences here. The Gab app was an app for a specific centralized server and directly associated with Gab itself which had moderation control over its content and explicitly and intentionally permitted hate speech.In this case we are talking about an app not associated with any server but rather simply a client for a specific protocol capable of talking to any server, and has no association to the servers it can connect with nor do the people who wrote it have any moderation control over the content.
(DIR) Post #9yaWG2SvF7C3wFDkLg by realcaseyrollins@gameliberty.club
2020-08-28T17:29:37Z
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@freemo @kline Literally all of that "offensive" content--fedi instances--can be viewed by #Chrome anyways. Unless you're going to ban the #Fediverse from the browser, there isn't any consistent logic here.
(DIR) Post #9yaWGOyZY7aBkmCKjg by oranje@cybre.space
2020-08-28T17:29:10Z
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@freemo My take is that if you're supporting google, you're supporting hate. Maybe they should shut themselves down.
(DIR) Post #9yaWOcnY2hnUwGxjMG by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:31:08Z
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@realcaseyrollins Yea its absurd logic.. the only difference between chrome and a mastodon instance is that chrome gives you access to hate speech servers through http protocol and mastodon client gives you access to hate speech servers through the ActivityPub protocol@kline
(DIR) Post #9yaWUDV70iEQDa0PIW by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:32:06Z
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@realcaseyrollins Yea its absurd logic.. the only difference between chrome and a mastodon client is that chrome gives you access to hate speech servers through http protocol and mastodon client gives you access to hate speech servers through the ActivityPub protocol@kline
(DIR) Post #9yaYcerhM28BJOisyW by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:56:07Z
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@georgia Anything is possible. But because they got these warnings all on the same day tells me that what probably happened is someone at google got the idea that mastodon was one monolithic social media platform, and when they reviewed the post contents on some random server (not understanding the view from each server to be unique) they saw hate speech.At that point in some unintelligent google employee's mind "mastodon == hate speech", at that point the employee searched for all mastodon apps and took them down on the grounds of hate speech.Just a guess but to me this seems most plausible.
(DIR) Post #9yaYgFCci0mGsaDjPc by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:56:30Z
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@Rape Its possible but I doubt it.
(DIR) Post #9yaYiwY0Wa6xtGVfQe by Rape@traboone.com
2020-08-28T17:57:15.727515Z
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@freemo If it weren’t, Tusky would be under fire too.
(DIR) Post #9yaYktvFFvayKNJQwq by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T17:57:22Z
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@admin Yea. I'm surprised this post got twice the reboosts of eugene's original post, considering he has way more followers than me.
(DIR) Post #9yaYsCzqjjRXVpx0W8 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-08-28T17:58:55.809451Z
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@isi @freemo @izarella :blobcatpawmean:
(DIR) Post #9yaZ7jXS1pvOmd4QS0 by vandys@mst.vsta.org
2020-08-28T18:01:44Z
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@khird @freemo Or they don't like decentralized services?
(DIR) Post #9yaZH2MlOhDdmZVXOq by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:03:06Z
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This post has now hit the #1 spot on hacker news with over 500 commentshttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24304275
(DIR) Post #9yaZO3eB28cLmY05R2 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:04:28Z
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@Rape How do you know Tusky isnt under fire. They may very well be, as far as I know tusky hasnt commented either way.
(DIR) Post #9yaZQTOQHX8wD7mchk by Rape@traboone.com
2020-08-28T18:05:07.838596Z
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@freemo I find it quite unlikely, but we’ll see who’s right in a week 🤷🏻♂️
(DIR) Post #9yaZh4uaYVHpCrkLCa by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2020-08-28T18:08:07.348487Z
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@Rape @freemo Almost certainly to have been the case. It’s been that way every other time.
(DIR) Post #9yaa0suisB39mtFmts by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-08-28T18:11:42.786872Z
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@freemo With Jews, you lose.
(DIR) Post #9yaa6yrxdxRRzmrv4i by spaceman@wurm.host
2020-08-28T18:12:48.409815Z
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@freemo Google is an advertising agency. If you're not blocking them entirely with your ad-blocking software, why do you have such software installed? Stop using Google. Stop paying them to hold you hostage.
(DIR) Post #9yaaByZEC6eaVSUKum by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:13:33Z
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@freemo I will share this as much as possible.
(DIR) Post #9yaaFhYrMccCvD5nua by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:14:10Z
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@zleap Please do, this is a big deal IMO
(DIR) Post #9yaaMJNhf9J1xL1gRc by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:15:26Z
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@freemo i have sent some of the links to my self to help with a blog post.
(DIR) Post #9yaaNtyz47MBlLDq9w by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:15:42Z
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@zleap awesome!
(DIR) Post #9yaayGJpUtJpSiJJaK by isolategab@todon.nl
2020-08-28T18:22:16Z
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@freemo Good for them. A private company removing apps that don't hardblock #Gab, and that violate their terms of use for the app store is entirely inside their rights.
(DIR) Post #9yab0ONyTZ4B3nGUN6 by Stellar@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-08-28T18:22:45.250208Z
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@isolategab @freemo nazis: wklfslkj what about freedom and stuff 😢
(DIR) Post #9yab6nZjjZMivEozK4 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-28T18:23:58.328761Z
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@isolategab @freemo Selective enforcement is bad for everyone.Per their own words, every app must be removed from the store because it could conceivably be used to write hate speech.
(DIR) Post #9yabGjDMnnUKIF5oye by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-08-28T18:25:46.204647Z
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@freemo @georgia just throwing this out here, but should watch to see if it happens to ex. Parler too.they could be purging all alt media to enforce their trumpposting ban.
(DIR) Post #9yabISnYoB17xTqjkO by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2020-08-28T18:26:05.779118Z
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@Stellar @isolategab @freemo Freedom is illegal.
(DIR) Post #9yac3PqNbvwCPCYan2 by rysiek@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T18:34:27Z
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@freemo Google abusing their monopoly, news at 11.Seriously, people need to be less "shocked and enraged" by whatever Microzon Facegoopple does any given week, and more down to going ditching their monopolistic arses.
(DIR) Post #9yacyRzsHIYtacC6Vc by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:44:43Z
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@freemo I struggle to write about stuff like this to be honest, I have put a draft up at https://personaljournal.ca/kpnko2obtjand linked to your post here and the discussion forum on ycombinator. any help would be welcome. Unless I can copy part of your post in to my post and then link to the rest,
(DIR) Post #9yad3L29avQFRQahd2 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:45:36Z
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@zleap You are welcome to copy any of my post you'd like.
(DIR) Post #9yadiXVu6ElI1I9WaG by dinus@liberdon.com
2020-08-28T18:52:39Z
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@freemo just checked and they're still there, plus countless others.
(DIR) Post #9yadl9IiZuTJnJEHWS by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:53:07Z
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@dinus Its a 7 day notice not an instant takedown.
(DIR) Post #9yado3s3Dvghp192aO by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-28T18:54:12Z
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@freemo by that logic, unlocked web browsers are illegal in Android world.
(DIR) Post #9yadqLkrhaJVrqsJ6G by dinus@liberdon.com
2020-08-28T18:53:43Z
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@freemo ..Ah.
(DIR) Post #9yae0BCDoX3O13MFn6 by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:56:06Z
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@freemo Thanks, have done part of that, so copied the text then linked to your full post, which has the links to the screenshots, also added my comment at the bottom (made it clear it is my comment) to say the fediverse works in a different way.The problem is ,lst year Mastodon hit the main news, as lots of people in India moved to the fediverse, If this story hits the media it will be twisted, journalists will go out and search for this hate content, and say it is easy to find. To day is that big march in Washington DC. so this could be a convienient time for Google to 'look' like they are doing something.Interestingly Protonmail are on both Gab and mastodon, which does show that the two are separate networks otherwise there would be less need or they would have to be on ALL the different instance types I guess. Lets see what happens, we need to remind the world that 18 months ago facebook allowed live streaming of a mass murder terror attack in New Zealand, and also it is still accused of not dealing with child abuse properly. More ammo Britain first is still trending in the UK, (has been all day) they are a racist hate group.I wonder if the twitter app will be removed !!!?
(DIR) Post #9yaeA5MkLUIgpV0KRM by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:57:59Z
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@zleap I have very little faith in the media to present things objectively and accurately. so you could be right. On the other hand they may focus on the anti-trust stuff facebook has been targeted for lately and see mastodon as the downtrodden hero alternative.. who knows.We will have to wait and see.
(DIR) Post #9yaeFUgVde9ynnpLFo by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-28T18:59:10.789552Z
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@freemo Google hates what they cannot control, and will try to destroy it.
(DIR) Post #9yaeIBJa6y33b3NtCa by haskal@cybre.space
2020-08-28T18:59:27Z
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@freemo so....when is google banning the facebook app...
(DIR) Post #9yaeKeJtF6Cm8JhnQO by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T18:59:56Z
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@freemo I agree there, which headline they can twist better to sell more papers or grab most attention.
(DIR) Post #9yaeNcH5IrI4eto9b6 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:00:37Z
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@ArdanianRight Perhaps, though I'm not sure that is really the thinking here. Do they control facebook or twitter? I cant think of any way they do, neither platform uses google for analytics or advertisements as far as I know.
(DIR) Post #9yaeSE8STmKJExyIrI by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:01:10Z
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@zleap Pretty much, its never about facts its about what gets them attention. Thus why commercial news is always inherently a failure in terms of accuracy.
(DIR) Post #9yaei0N9PxBpBkMqXY by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:04:13Z
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@freemo Yeah a senator spoke at the rally earlier and even said that the media will most probably just twist his words. Or was he speaking in the capital building, not sure, it trended earlier as a powerful speech. Made a lot of good points, turning very nasty over in the US by the looks of it too.
(DIR) Post #9yafE724BwLF6uocb2 by linuro@soc.zom.bi
2020-08-28T19:09:49Z
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@freemo Are they going to take down all facebook apps as well?
(DIR) Post #9yafHMCeFBEj1wJPUm by jojo@jojo.singleuser.club
2020-08-28T19:10:41.418582Z
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@freemocc @pcc @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yafIR6FWUvcVUpkK8 by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T09:03:17Z
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@master @freemo twitter is an interesting example. on the other hand, twitter has, afaik, never officially permitted hate speech. it probably also helps that they're big, and their ToS likely contains a section on hate speech, whereas with fedi, it depends entirely on the instance.
(DIR) Post #9yafbnUAW953RBFnCy by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:14:24Z
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@jojo As much as I would oppose google or anyone imposing a ban on free speech instances like FSE it seems there is a good chance google demands FSE and servers like it receive a app-level block for any fediverse clients that want into Google Play.This may put a huge huge hurt on FSE and its usebase if none of the clients can be used to login to accounts there in the future.I hope that isnt how it plays out but it seems to be what google is pushing for.@p @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yafekGKxPkgJHBpYW by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T19:14:52Z
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@freemo hope i don't be the next one since people could literally watch porn on koyu.space (and i don't censor any political speech except if it's agaonst the law so people can form their own unbiased opinions about politics)
(DIR) Post #9yafizNsg33YMpk4KO by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T19:15:39Z
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@freemo hope i don't be the next one since people could literally watch porn on koyu.space (and i don't censor any political speech except if it's against the law so people can form their own unbiased opinions about politics)
(DIR) Post #9yafq8UbD8eYdxIBns by jojo@jojo.singleuser.club
2020-08-28T19:16:58.836033Z
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@freemo @p @sjwSo in other words, it's censoring everything
(DIR) Post #9yafrQMYFtkaMA8tMm by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:17:09Z
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@koyu Its really hard to say how far they will take this.. It seems like their demands will either be impossible to meet or will be so pervasive it will be crippling to any sane outcome. No matter how you slice it the only sane and workable outcome is for google to change its mind and backpedal, which is not at all characteristic for google.
(DIR) Post #9yafuHBKqWwskdFvxQ by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:17:44Z
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@jojo Well not everything, but their demands on what needs to be censored sounds like it might be pretty pervasive at the very least.@p @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yafykP48xWKXQoJJg by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T19:18:30Z
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@freemo well if people want they can still grab the source code and compile their own app...no one will do this probably which means that we really have to find a new smartphone platform. wish firefox os was still around so we can just use pwas and don't give a damn about policies etc. if it's on the web it's on your phone.
(DIR) Post #9yag5ThEeqpQkXWD20 by jojo@jojo.singleuser.club
2020-08-28T19:19:43.084008Z
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@freemo @p @sjwBut it's horrible, we must let the whole fediverse know
(DIR) Post #9yagDuCU05zFGc9XCy by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:21:17Z
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@jojo My post has over 200 reboosts, and is currently linked from HackerNews and in the #1 spot. I also just posted it to reddit where it is starting to trend and was already cross posted after a few minutes.Looks like the whole **world** is seeing my post about this bullshit :)@p @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yagdWWaeHdHMpm11E by jojo@jojo.singleuser.club
2020-08-28T19:25:54.038836Z
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@freemo @p @sjwAnd it's time for the whole world to now about the fediverse
(DIR) Post #9yaghkZqLNuW6nJJSq by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:26:41Z
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@jojo That too, but i would imagine a lot of people do if it is trending at all. but its nice to see more exposure.QOTO is getting some new signups lately that explicitly state they are coming in from hackernews.@p @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yagwvFqvY2tZIC8Rs by jojo@jojo.singleuser.club
2020-08-28T19:29:23.191503Z
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@freemo @p @sjwI don't see it on reddit, and don't be egotistical about fame
(DIR) Post #9yah3xQvE3xoLsj8Ea by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:30:41Z
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@jojo It was only posted a few minutes ago, its trending but not top rated yet.What did I say that was egotistical. I pointed out that the post is getting exposure, I said nothing about that exposure being due to anything special about me or my abilities.@p @sjw
(DIR) Post #9yahZAeI8lOwJgrdDc by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:36:14Z
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@freemo In other news, apples new IOS is going to really mess up facebooks spam (sorry adverts) as it giving users more choice over ads, which is going to stop facebooks targets spam (sorry adverts)
(DIR) Post #9yahdKuVvhg1IiREK8 by louiscouture@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:36:57Z
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@koyu: can't you already download any pwa from chrome? You can do that on ios
(DIR) Post #9yahee741MqP95vtdA by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:37:08Z
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@zleap i assume this would only filter out spam in notifications. I suspect it would do nothing to effect it in the facebook app itself?
(DIR) Post #9yahgyWv595Z2z8ZvM by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T19:37:42Z
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@louiscouture yeah, but it's entirely different if your whole phone is based around pwas since google can ban more than just mastodon... (and not many developers actually use pwas)
(DIR) Post #9yahmMVNN2JKquz3tA by zleap@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:38:36Z
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@freemo https://uk.pcmag.com/iphone-apps/128346/facebook-apples-ios-14-will-cripple-our-ability-to-serve-ads-to-iphones
(DIR) Post #9yaiQ13OXs1VuDnwAa by wowaname@anime.website
2020-08-28T19:45:51.621080Z
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@freemo @fedilab @tateisu android phones preinstalled with f-droid and aosp when
(DIR) Post #9yaiY15gIAZCKwglay by riamu@letsalllovela.in
2020-08-28T19:47:20.549096Z
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@freemo this is so dumb. They did it with imageboard and booru apps too even though anyone can access the same content with a browser
(DIR) Post #9yaiYEB7dFdwvaKnNg by wowaname@anime.website
2020-08-28T19:47:20.871810Z
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@Feddylain @khird @freemo nah. neither fedilab, husky, nor ST block anything
(DIR) Post #9yaiZTn34cjVdVffge by okabe_rintarou@shitposter.club
2020-08-28T19:47:35.442661Z
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@freemo The Fediverse works through browsers as well, does it not? They'd have to ban browser to ban this supposed "hate speech".
(DIR) Post #9yaiefQrDSJDBvlUno by Rape@traboone.com
2020-08-28T19:48:32.632556Z
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@okabe_rintarou @freemo Why are you trying to apply logic to Google?
(DIR) Post #9yaikeHoOCVzNJO0i8 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:49:25Z
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@okabe_rintarou That was my thinking exactly... if a mastodon client can get banned for accessing a hate speech server through activity pub protocol then shouldn't web browsers be banned for being able to access the same server and content through http? Only real difference is the protocol.
(DIR) Post #9yajUMxz7GA8ymuhu4 by grainloom@cybre.space
2020-08-28T19:54:18Z
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@Thib @freemo hmm, maybe. but both of those are much less public.
(DIR) Post #9yajUNPdSSHSMXqn0C by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:57:29Z
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@grainloom I think the difference isnt so much publicity as it is how they view them.. CMPP they probably view as a private messaging system which is likely treated a lot different than what they see as social media.Not saying i agree with their logic there, but I just feel they look at hate speech as the responsibility of the app owner when its social media more so than when its private messaging.We have to remember they did this to Gab before they switched protocols too, so they do have a habit of doing this to smaller social media networks.Obviously they should be banning facebook and twitter too but I think just popularity alone keeps them safe from that.@Thib
(DIR) Post #9yajZMgfa8VbYrCFxA by louiscouture@qoto.org
2020-08-28T19:58:43Z
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@koyu @freemo i mean you can watch porn on twitter too
(DIR) Post #9yajlWduOSJVudhhKa by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:00:53Z
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@louiscouture @freemo yeah and if google states such a thing it would've been against their terms of service as well. i don't know what's up, but google didn't change their tos except for a few tax changes in some american states. so something might have changed internally which is why they're after mastodon apps specifically. google chrome was born also when a few google engineers sat together in the cafeteria complaining about firefox.
(DIR) Post #9yajqq9VHi4Zru14kq by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:01:49Z
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@koyu Actually they did make a change 2 weeks ago, this may be relevant or related not sure.https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9914283?hl=en@louiscouture
(DIR) Post #9yak0qwtB5yBEbtGoC by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:03:42Z
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@freemo @louiscouture weird. usually they're doing changes with taxes etc. and they would've notified me via e-mail if there was a bigger change like that since i'm also developing apps for android. maybe i just remove all my android apps and tell google to fuck off. hosting my own f-droid repos are shit as well so i guess i'll be back on feature phones soon. such things just make me agressive.
(DIR) Post #9yak5TKsOl5rRpJSu8 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:04:30Z
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@koyu I'd say give it a week to see how this plays out.. there is always the off chance they will back down and admit they were mistaken. Dont bet on it, but, maybe.@louiscouture
(DIR) Post #9yakAUdOzrhevLN9SS by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:05:25Z
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@freemo @louiscouture i'll do. and if people still want to use koyu.space on their phones just don't use one. i think i have to make my own phones soon.
(DIR) Post #9yakGxU2eLU08R4q2a by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:06:36Z
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@koyu Considering people like Huwai are adding backdoors IC's too you might find your going to need to make your own ICs first, then make your own phones :)@louiscouture
(DIR) Post #9yakMbPtbg89QvpTAe by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:07:36Z
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@freemo @louiscouture actually i don't care about the size of the thing as long as it isn't bigger than a pocket chip. in all honesty having a phone with a usb-a port, hdmi port and lan port would be nuts.
(DIR) Post #9yakTmawReNS83Q4fY by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:08:53Z
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@koyu There are quite a few opensource phones out there. some come pre assembled but are still very hackabe:https://www.robotshop.com/en/ringo-diy-mobile-phone-kit-assembled.html@louiscouture
(DIR) Post #9yakYHHQIfXcSJQvTs by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:09:43Z
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@freemo @louiscouture but are they stable tho? (and can i ssh into koyu.space on the go?)
(DIR) Post #9yakbNjOls0BKfzyk4 by souldessin@twit.social
2020-08-28T20:10:13Z
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@freemo Shut-up slave, you will ingest what we wish you to. You will buy what companies pay us to put in front of you. You will let us know everything about you so that we can sell that to the people paying us for advertising.Free speech is only free on discount days in the app store.
(DIR) Post #9yal7zKqUnnbE43vCC by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:16:08Z
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@koyu Not really sure, havent played with them... More stable than a phone you build from scratch anyway, which at the moment cant even boot, or exist for that matter :)@louiscouture
(DIR) Post #9yalE1snw7BergpK3E by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:17:17Z
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@freemo @louiscouture i mean if the big five are taking over the internet more than they're already doing then i'll never touch a computer again
(DIR) Post #9yalFMYoXjVvHj71uq by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:17:31Z
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@freemo @louiscouture the only thing i'd touch then is a gun
(DIR) Post #9yalVpzMtgPnBkO9YW by louiscouture@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:20:24Z
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@koyu:touch a gun so you can touch a computer again
(DIR) Post #9yalXjSU9EE1VvuYgS by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-28T20:20:53Z
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@louiscouture more like touch a gun, kill some ceos and then touch a computer again
(DIR) Post #9yalaleMSLQnBCuhIO by AtlasFreeman@liberdon.com
2020-08-28T20:21:26Z
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@freemo Anyone who puts qualifiers on free speech doesn't understand it, and doesn't support it.
(DIR) Post #9yalfntNXypRa8L61I by louiscouture@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:22:16Z
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@koyu: it's kinda what I'm saying
(DIR) Post #9yalhhwIePHLhMc5xI by ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-28T20:22:42.818235Z
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@AtlasFreeman @freemo "hate speech is not free speech" :brainlet:
(DIR) Post #9yalji1vHhSIYiCKw4 by leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-28T20:23:04.532966Z
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@AtlasFreeman @freemo this is an election interference tactic. They are that afraid of shitposter.club and pawoo.
(DIR) Post #9yallaIb01iXA0tI1o by vandys@mst.vsta.org
2020-08-28T20:23:23Z
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@freemo Logically, this should include Chrome, Firefox, Opera, ...
(DIR) Post #9yalpIc2hNw1Svl4Gu by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:24:04Z
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@leyonhjelm I dunno, maybe.. Its hard to say what the real motivation is and I can think of a few viable explanations for their bias. It could also just be ignorance/stupidity on their part.@AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yalr6KXKqTpx4QfXE by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:24:23Z
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@vandys Key word there being logically... I dont think logic is high on their priority list on this one.
(DIR) Post #9yam9Sl8gPwIj7cyzg by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T20:27:43.276975Z
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No one supports free speech. Free speech is always selective. Communists enjoy free speech while nazis do not.Free speech is an unrealistic, autistic, unattainable fantasy. Power structures are unavoidable and will capitulate to the inevitable demands by the powerful to silence those without power. This is immutable human nature and cannot be altered. Free speech has never existed and will never exist, except for those brief twinklings where it is inaugerated from above by the powerful, until they die and power accedes to the next generation.@AtlasFreeman @freemo
(DIR) Post #9yamU79WDBzhnOsWhc by leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-28T20:31:27.734508Z
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@freemo @AtlasFreeman after Hillary lost they were pretty open that they were going to do this.
(DIR) Post #9yamcwXt19VJVNUD7x by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:32:51Z
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@CreamSeparatist Well depends on how you define or apply free speech.. some people use it to mean you can say anything at anytime with no consequences.. strictly the definition of it is that you are free to voice any opinions specifically, but not neccesarly the right to say anything you want (which could exclude a lot of hate speech and still meet the definition). It also means very different things if we talk about it as a legal principle as opposed to a personal ethical principle.@AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yamfqeVNvke61y2Qy by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-28T20:33:34.963450Z
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@ChristiJunior @AtlasFreeman @freemo It's every bit as retarded as the faggots calling our boy Kyle a murderer for defending himself against rioters. Their abuse of language is viscerally disgusting.
(DIR) Post #9yamn2EMjdqc27ASbw by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T20:34:51.869624Z
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And there you go. You believe in the existence of "hate speech" which amounts to saying that if you hurt someone's feelings with mean words your right to free speech no longer exists.QED no one actually supports free speech. A total load of pigshine.@freemo @AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yamoM3CWxdjnEZhaq by kravietz@social.privacytools.io
2020-08-28T20:35:05Z
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@freemoLooking forward to Google banning Gmail app because it allows you to subscribe to an alt-right mailing list. This is probably the closest analogy you can build to explain what's wrong with Google's action in the traditional Internet terms, because SMTP has been federated like forever.
(DIR) Post #9yan49qffJuqaAFX7Y by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:37:44Z
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@CreamSeparatist I said nothing about what I believe in. I am only saying that is one such interpretation.I think its pretty obvious hateful speech exists. Whether it is protected by free speech or not depends entierly on the definition of free speech employed is all. The definition I use when i am in a position to protect free speech is another matter entierly.@AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yanWuCEwG0CR62v8y by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T20:43:09.469140Z
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Hurt feelings do not trump free speech.Or rather, they do trump it, because free speech is a myth and democracy should be annihilated as a horrendous scam. No one who thinks hurt feelings can be a valid argument against speech should be considered even 1/10th my civic value, let alone my equal. Democracy and the lie of liberty must be abolished and replaced.@freemo @AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yanjCb4Lsd8ylWVdY by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:45:06Z
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@CreamSeparatist I tend to agree, but again depends on what is defined as free speech. If the line is drawn at hurt feelings, for example, then you may find it acceptable to suppress speech which causes physical or financial harm, such as yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater, or libel/slander.@AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yannUbdKv8NzXpiRk by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
2020-08-28T20:46:08Z
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@freemo lol what about a web browser.
(DIR) Post #9yao6aZ5PCbnyVkOrA by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T20:49:36.669316Z
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Free speech can have no limitations. There is no gray area. There either is free speech for everyone or there is free speech for no one. No line can be drawn at hurt feelings or shouting fire in a crowded theatre; an argument which was, in fact, being used in a judgment passed down against political activists distributing fliers urging those who were drafted to resist their involuntary enslavement.Just more proof of the lie of liberty and the bankrupt nature of these cynical appeals to inexistent freedoms.@freemo @AtlasFreemanimage.png
(DIR) Post #9yaoM0MNmYUAJx9kmW by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T20:52:06Z
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@CreamSeparatist so if im under oath in a court case I can lie and say I saw you murder the guy and I am completely protected because of free speech even if it can be shown I intentionally lied?Sorry but in the case where free speech has no line of any kind in even the most extreme examples we have a situation where the harm quickly outweighs the benefit of free speech. @AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yaok6646X8r3z0olc by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T20:56:45.322317Z
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It clearly can't. Free speech either authorizes the violations of liberty which have been endemic from its outset, or it has been powerless to protect those who were victimized for their legitimate political speech.The internal contradictions of your nonsensical liberal beliefs in inexistent freedoms is a problem for you to wrestle with, not me. I am for the abolishment of all liberal institutions such as free speech and democracy, so I don't have to wrestle with it.You can't give Julian Assange the last 10 years of his life back with handwringing about "where we should draw the line" of free speech.Fuck liberalism, libertarianism, and so on. Hashtag not my society.@freemo @AtlasFreeman
(DIR) Post #9yaooDR8kyW4zBpkWG by Bloodaxe@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T20:57:17Z
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@freemo I'm outraged 😠 This ironically just proves exactly why we all need the Fediverse and decentralization as a whole...
(DIR) Post #9yapHGYAGDG32VyI0e by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T21:02:42.922703Z
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@freemo If this is the policy they're taking then why are browsers allowed?
(DIR) Post #9yapMHouxuRwQXCYng by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:03:23Z
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@sjw because consistency in their logic isnt one of their goals, particularly when applying that logic might cause harm to their own apps.
(DIR) Post #9yaqf8bRYjJBIQS5HE by phicyclist@liberdon.com
2020-08-28T21:18:15Z
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@freemohttps://f-droid.org/
(DIR) Post #9yaqzpSFwlINzT1Ma8 by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2020-08-28T21:21:56.959262Z
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@freemo @jojo @p When is Chrome going to get banned for allowing access to the website?
(DIR) Post #9yau3xYY4EYI8acpyS by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:55:50Z
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@zleap @freemo on the plus side, I have never heard of Mastodon until today, so the article is bringing in new people
(DIR) Post #9yau69oBU7rsiSzFE8 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:56:33Z
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@FatherLot Indeed, and welcome to QOTO. The article has actually brought in a few new users to QOTO.@zleap
(DIR) Post #9yauCNEkTGsS6LNOaG by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:57:21Z
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@zleap @freemo Boosted my status?
(DIR) Post #9yauCNdYz0j7LIzDGK by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:57:37Z
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@FatherLot Indeed I did.@zleap
(DIR) Post #9yauERej0piANyVwqO by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:58:08Z
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@freemo @zleap Sorry, what does that mean?
(DIR) Post #9yauGF58jVnLy2j6vY by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:58:23Z
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@FatherLot similar to a retoot or reshare.@zleap
(DIR) Post #9yauIF9LS4pykzeDhI by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:58:53Z
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@freemo @zleap Got it... Thx. New place. New terms to learn
(DIR) Post #9yauNjJiiZ9tld7J4a by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T21:59:45Z
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@FatherLot I'm the founder of QOTO and we have a few volunteer moderators too. Feel free to ask anything you need help with, or even just reach out to chat some time if youd like.@zleap
(DIR) Post #9yauWv3SRkpmmFtMrQ by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:01:26Z
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@freemo @zleap I like that. Thanks. Exploring the landscape to see the who's and whats
(DIR) Post #9yaucu0nEm91HQUyiO by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:02:31Z
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@freemo @zleap Does clicking the star follow? And is there a help file?
(DIR) Post #9yauiVEGIA6E9gT8Ns by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:03:31Z
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@freemo @zleap nvm. Found the followers page
(DIR) Post #9yaulNAsh99y2kFwpM by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:03:57Z
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@FatherLot Did you read https://qoto.org/about/more ?@zleap
(DIR) Post #9yaumfSMD0fp2732Aq by FatherLot@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:04:23Z
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@freemo @zleap LOL... Well I will now. Thx.
(DIR) Post #9yautb9Qc91xhvUzMu by matiaslavik@mastodon.social
2020-08-28T22:05:31Z
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@freemo shouldn't they block Chrome as well then? 🙄
(DIR) Post #9yauyCbHJxeN0pikqW by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:06:15Z
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@matiaslavik No, when they promote hate speech they arent promoting hate speech, it is only when other apps are not promoting hate speech that hate speech is being promoted... dont you get your memos?
(DIR) Post #9yayvH5QaHm9sGgNIO by happysmash27@social.librem.one
2020-08-28T22:50:36Z
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@freemo @izarella I've decided to follow you both. Whether I agree with them or not, I love diverse opinions. Some of my opinions have also been censored a lot, though I usually do not post them on Mastodon or Twitter.
(DIR) Post #9yazI486vIVALlny9Q by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-28T22:54:45Z
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@happysmash27 Welcome to the club. As long as people are respectful I find a difference of opinion to be some of the most exciting and education conversations I can have. Echo chambers are so boring, and often toxic.@izarella
(DIR) Post #9yb3zJ7PTG5v6bLsUy by Glowie@close-air.support
2020-08-28T23:47:34.002028Z
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@freemo I am inclined to spend my holiday reporting browsers and forum apps for inappropriate user content.
(DIR) Post #9ybAkeuyq0tg3DV4pU by Spaceface16518@fosstodon.org
2020-08-29T01:03:06Z
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@freemo at least mastodon has a very good pwa. but this still, that’s not fun
(DIR) Post #9ybL9xehJDWIweaVai by retiolus@mamot.fr
2020-08-29T02:59:46Z
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@freemo
(DIR) Post #9ybLIlo8jBUqo3Cl72 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-29T03:01:23Z
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@retiolus Yea I just posted that there a few minutes ago, trying to get a little more exposure for the situation.
(DIR) Post #9ybLr4yzwR0a7fdxq4 by retiolus@mamot.fr
2020-08-29T03:07:38Z
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@freemo the answer was the point, good job ✌
(DIR) Post #9ybW10BncM2th309U8 by milo@social.anthro.cc
2020-08-29T05:01:37.292927Z
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@freemo abandon play store, embrace f-droid repos
(DIR) Post #9ybZKA2jVOnLcQaWKe by farhan@social.farhan.codes
2020-08-29T05:38:41.384021Z
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@Thib @freemo what surrounding the dev of Husky?
(DIR) Post #9ybiz3Mm8KPwN6XK9A by hirschnase@mastodon.social
2020-08-29T07:26:45Z
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@freemo @tuxom don't use Google anyway. Get your fediverse apps from fdroid or the like.
(DIR) Post #9ybnl6wCYdyVAHHIB6 by Yes2020@mastodon.scot
2020-08-29T08:19:56Z
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@freemo Google is an empire, power must be retain at all cost, this will be their downfall, doesn't happen overnight, look at the British Empire, the Celtic nations are getting ready to break free, unification of Ireland, self-determination for Scotland and the Welsh dragon is awaking to free Wales.
(DIR) Post #9ybvqamfogfwoRwhyi by farhan@social.farhan.codes
2020-08-29T09:50:39.158221Z
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@Thib @freemo I see...ill look into this...i run Husky almost exclusively foe using the term Post over Toot. Didn't realize there was conflict here
(DIR) Post #9yc2CRX3UkWcDLRXLE by JayVii_de@mastodon.social
2020-08-29T11:02:01Z
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@freemo how does that work out for webbrowsers (their own chrome browser?!) or any multi purpose client?
(DIR) Post #9yc3KzVt8aXtsMXMmm by zack@koyu.space
2020-08-29T11:14:52Z
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@koyu *in minecraft!!
(DIR) Post #9yc5GI1r4MgplGNKQy by 444.koyu@koyu.space
2020-08-29T11:36:27Z
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@zack yes.
(DIR) Post #9yc5OFtmsBlLTIOrRY by zack@koyu.space
2020-08-29T11:37:57Z
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@koyu 💗
(DIR) Post #9yc5qNi3QUdDnwK7Hc by mark@metalhead.club
2020-08-29T11:42:52Z
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@freemo : "google is apparently taking down all/most fediverse apps from google play on the grounds that that some servers in the fediverse engage in hate speech."About time to #degoogle if you haven't already done so.
(DIR) Post #9ycKSJsPWYxUHN9UUy by jfinkhaeuser@fosstodon.org
2020-08-29T14:26:21Z
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@freemoThey should ban Google search engine, too 🤷♂️ same reason applies.
(DIR) Post #9ycLf76ERMEqN2HVJo by thor@mstdn.social
2020-08-28T13:09:09Z
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@Meachamus_Prime @madargon @freemo @khird *then
(DIR) Post #9ycLf7gkFbRgCHMfEO by realcaseyrollins@gameliberty.club
2020-08-29T14:40:17Z
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@thor @Meachamus_Prime @madargon @freemo @khird What was the content that made them upset anyways?
(DIR) Post #9ycLjc7z1IPrlGFLHc by realcaseyrollins@gameliberty.club
2020-08-29T14:41:07Z
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@freemo @Feddylain @khird I think #Tusky blocks it tho
(DIR) Post #9ycQ57rmbwFO5xBLxg by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2020-08-29T15:29:51.503089Z
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@freemo The fediverse app, Firefox, still seems to be around.
(DIR) Post #9ycb4meGb8N1mgtoy8 by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-29T17:32:37Z
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@evenstay The taking down of literally **all** fediverse apps is good news? How so?
(DIR) Post #9ycbdOgFhb4faIKi0G by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-29T17:38:49Z
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@jr Nah, google has browsers, so they wont do that.. I bet if google still had Google+ they wouldnt be doing this either.Double standards and all.
(DIR) Post #9ycbgNAllSoZmE1g7E by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-29T17:39:30Z
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@devnull This decision is just reeking of double standards.@khird
(DIR) Post #9yccNkkC0DuHKmHR9k by jr@social.anoxinon.de
2020-08-29T17:34:51Z
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@freemo so next ban all browsers because they can access hatespeech sites? 🤔
(DIR) Post #9yciERoHd3YpjK8j0i by NHonigdachs@norden.social
2020-08-29T18:52:57Z
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@freemo just a question of time till they take out web browsers
(DIR) Post #9ycjY6j1pahg5BcWEy by Meachamus_Prime@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-29T19:07:57Z
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@realcaseyrollins @thor @madargon @freemo @khird Just guessing, but probably access to gab.com. Even though gab stopped federating for exactly this reason, you can still use fedilab to log into gab.
(DIR) Post #9ycmKIJeExtTq3qzse by randynose@fosstodon.org
2020-08-29T19:38:52Z
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@freemo Then, they need to remove all Facebook apps. - As Facebook is the worst place for HATE IMHO. Then they'll need to take down Twitter Apps also.
(DIR) Post #9yctYrJZbzdy7Qi8Om by realcaseyrollins@gameliberty.club
2020-08-29T21:00:08Z
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@Meachamus_Prime @thor @madargon @freemo @khird Ah that's right, they never killed the endpoints
(DIR) Post #9ycuASnHEDRX4ZXGoy by raiserin@todon.nl
2020-08-29T21:06:40Z
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@freemo @whilelm I'm supposing you're wrong, totally https://rage.love/@kyzh/104711430666504950@kyzh @fdroidorg
(DIR) Post #9yd22b1XXpBvukxzkW by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-29T22:34:54Z
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@raiserinWhat part are you claiming is wrong and why is the link proof of that?@whilelm @kyzh @fdroidorg
(DIR) Post #9ydseXpX3ueKd7laca by redfrog@mamot.fr
2020-08-30T08:24:35Z
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@freemo https://search.f-droid.org/?q=mastodon&lang=en
(DIR) Post #9ydtdUnOxTMQsqpkSO by raucao@kosmos.social
2020-08-30T08:35:30Z
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@freemo So they'll ban Chrome and other browsers, too?
(DIR) Post #9yfr6uSkhHApL8Qeu0 by stevelord@mastodon.social
2020-08-31T07:16:40Z
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@freemo can't wait for them to ban Chrome
(DIR) Post #9yg84c71eQ3h4Jl1to by stevenroose@x0f.org
2020-08-31T10:26:51Z
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@freemo @dominicduffin1 I just reported the Gmail app for showing me hate speech. Let me do the same for Hangouts.But seriously, this is unacceptable.
(DIR) Post #9ygRmV9ulMqxNEkXbs by dibiase@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-31T14:07:23Z
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@freemo On the bright side Android isn't iOS (for now). You can still side load APKs. :| Small consolation I know.
(DIR) Post #9yggCyHWVTWCaFpBKa by mb@sfba.social
2020-08-31T16:49:10Z
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@freemoThis probably means google is about to release a similar app. They're doing the Apple thing where they selectively enforce rules that duplicate functionality of their product.
(DIR) Post #9yggJqKmSBFHxicnYG by mb@sfba.social
2020-08-31T16:50:00Z
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@freemoThis probably means google is about to release a similar app. They're doing the Apple thing where they selectively enforce rules on apps that duplicate functionality of their product.
(DIR) Post #9yh1Eb1W36Vy4AxACe by freemo@qoto.org
2020-08-31T20:44:52Z
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@stevenroose Yea it crosses the line.. I wonder if the fediverse will stop hating on the phrase "free speech" now though.@dominicduffin1
(DIR) Post #9ylGI6UDnpHkScLmfQ by artyr3@fosstodon.org
2020-09-02T21:52:19Z
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@freemo I tend to not like broad conspiracy claims, so I say this with a some hesitation, but I believe its true. The censorship of "alt-tech"" is just getting started. Most of us saw it happening, but because it was only directed at people with extreme political views, we ignored it. Now its moving toward the center. I believe before its over, we will see Silicon Valley, with the help of hard Left Government push for the end of, or the complete marginalization of ALL platforms they cant control
(DIR) Post #9ylVQAaBxHiOnIRmbY by paradaux@mastodon.ie
2020-09-03T00:41:27Z
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@freemo It's not as bad as the likes of the Apple ecosystem, at least we have the option of going ex-google play.
(DIR) Post #9yln1QyJgMDDYk5OUa by Korsier@toot.canberrasocial.net
2020-09-03T03:59:17Z
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@freemo All the more reason to stop using #Google to host your stuff and install #fdroid on your phone. #freespeech
(DIR) Post #9ylnbwOSKokxR8iiv2 by GasBag@noagendasocial.com
2020-09-03T04:05:53Z
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@freemo Use the browser
(DIR) Post #9ylq62dLtjUXO1AWZ6 by Korsier@toot.canberrasocial.net
2020-09-03T04:33:43Z
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@SecondJon @freemo I use #Husky and when I installed #fdroid it recognised that I had the app installed. Hopefully it will update the app when the developer releases updates for it.
(DIR) Post #9ymEfQUtYzGQQvcQKW by jiefk@mamot.fr
2020-09-03T09:08:59Z
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@Korsier @SecondJon @freemo AFAICT, #fdroid guys compile their own version directly from upstream source. Therefore, there is a chance that a possible update will fail because of different signatures.Your best bet would be to remove Husky from #googleplay and install it from fdroid instead. You'll surely lose all your #husky settings in the process, so be sure to save them / note them down.
(DIR) Post #9ymO0d8CgVnhHmBs9o by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T10:53:44.069958Z
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@CreamSeparatist @freemo @AtlasFreeman"Free speech" doesn't have to apply to every channel, only some channels. A court case as well as other government avenues like a citizenship application can be a restricted channel. Likewise calling 911 or, by yelling fire in a crowded theater, effectively broadcasting on an emergency channel.It doesn't even have to apply on google or facebook or whatever, because when it doesn't people can just make a competing google and facebook or whatever. The problem is that when antifa notices all their thoughtslaves abandoning their platform for the competing google/facebook, they kamikaze it with forced victimhood and lawfare until they shut it down.Censoring their own channels isn't the problem. Invading other channels to censor them is the problem. Luckily, it appears to be a self-correcting problem. Qoto, for example, pretends to stand for free speech then casually throws out the "OBVIOUSLY, no sexism or racism is ever acceptable." Idk how it possibly happened that such a cucked stance considers itself a paragon of free speech but I think it's a wonderful development.From each according to their ability!To each according to their need!Accelerate!freeze-peach.pngcancel.webp
(DIR) Post #9ymOyebGLwzxDRP7YW by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T11:04:35.213281Z
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@search_social @AtlasFreeman @freemo I'm a national socialist I don't care about free speech. It has never been extended to me. If I don't have the right to speak freely on twitter in the public square then I couldn't care less about your autistic hand wringing about "what-is-and-where-are the limits of this imaginary thing called free speech?" Not at all. People like you who are racially demented should be deported at best or simply killed if no other option can be found. Just for your demented and mentally ill speech alone.
(DIR) Post #9ymSjqZNy2BfoPilu4 by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T11:46:44.446413Z
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@CreamSeparatist @search_social @AtlasFreeman @freemo >I don't care about free speechAnd yet, when I said loli wasn't speech, you freaked out on me for not supporting free speech.Of all the evils 2020 has brought us, Folk turning into an inconsistent, ragepoasting lolcow has been the worst.Everyone, this is what patchouli overexposure and jailhouse nigger semen does to your brain. Don't let it happen to you!
(DIR) Post #9ymT7kjDKycye3iXya by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T11:51:03.083588Z
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@alcade @CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo>I’m a nazi idc about free speechNot caring about free speech has a long and rich tradition.Likewise, demented demons defying deities decrees also has a long and rich tradition.prometheus.jpg
(DIR) Post #9ymW5TUAm1veS3HsUy by AtlasFreeman@liberdon.com
2020-09-03T12:24:14Z
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@search_social @alcade @CreamSeparatist @freemo Can we not have a fairly simple distinction between speech that is an idea, and speech that is an action?Lying is an action. "North korea is best korea" is an idea. "fire!" in a crowded theater is an action of intent to harm. It's not the idea coming out your mouth, it's a noise made with intent to harmThat "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" is an idea.Can it not be that simple?
(DIR) Post #9ymbmo0As1gmIujkh6 by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T13:28:06.312042Z
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@AtlasFreeman @alcade @CreamSeparatist @freemo>speech that is an actionThe dichotomy that free Speech is based on is that Speech IS NOT Action.Actions have consequences. Bad Actions have bad consequences.Sad. Bad. Bad. Sad.How fix?We have to theorize about Actions without doing them.This theorizing, which in one person is called “Thought”,And between several persons is called “Speech”,DOES NOT have consequences,therefore we can use this playground to formulate the correct Actions.Good Actions have good consequences.Happy. Good. Good. Happy.There are a few no-brainers that one can do to keep free Speech sane.Keep certain channels e.g. legal accusations, emergency claims, spaces with children; restricted i.e. not free Speech.Guarantee all humans basic physical rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happinessBut these are still, fundamentally, restrictions on Actions, not Speech.>Lying is an action.That’s an instant loser. Now instead of people being able to talk freely to reason through their Actions, anyone that talks will instantly be labeled a criminal for lying. Now no one can talk, so everyone must Act without talking and without thinking.Speech, which before was a tool for reasoning about Actions, now becomes nothing but a game for excusing violent repression of others and for desperately dodging violent repression in return. For example, the word “nazi”. In a world where the word is immune from prosecution, people can freely admit to being one or partially one, and have no incentivize to falsely accuse others of being one. In a world where the word is a blank check to violently repress someone, no one can admit to it, and everyone must accuse their enemies of being one. The word loses all meaning and becomes a literal synonym for “I want to impose the consequences of being labeled a “X” upon you.”Of course in reality what all such restrictions on “lying” or “hate” or other nonsense are is the assertion that Some People are More Equaler than other people. These Some People are More Smarter and More Moraler and More Qualifieder to Judge(TM) who is allowed to speak and who is not.Now I’m not saying this is wrong, not at all. Obviously some people are more fit to rule than others. Just one question - who?Quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes.jpg
(DIR) Post #9ymeFXAAkt06NzEwPA by AtlasFreeman@liberdon.com
2020-09-03T13:55:42Z
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@search_social @alcade @CreamSeparatist @freemo I should have clarified specifically lying in a court of law, as an example of your suggestion of channels where there may be limits.
(DIR) Post #9ymfHTcF0ynBuwrKUq by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T14:07:16.208977Z
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@AtlasFreeman @alcade @CreamSeparatist @freemoOops, copypasta wasted. I have another one about how advertising is the purest form of good free speech, similar to Ayn Rand having a statue of a dollar as a religious idol in Atlas Shrugged.ayn-rand.pngatlas-shrugged.jpg
(DIR) Post #9yn7QcAhN5iHm97cqu by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T19:22:38.831192Z
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Frick off, retard. Loli is a user who was banned from gab. I told you multiple times in that conversation that I don't consider porn to be free speech but you were too dumb to catch on. Free speech is gay just like you.@alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9yn7cpuc6tElrlQU1A by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T19:24:50.103193Z
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Okay hol up so you're a satanist too, in addition to being an interracial sex pervert?@search_social @alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo
(DIR) Post #9yn83m5gQUNPphRu7s by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T19:29:44.147251Z
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Fire in a crowded theater was a meme made up in a SCOTUS decision meant to imprison people for saying that people who are drafted should not willingly accept their enslavement. They were imprisoned as "spies" for their legitimate political actions. The fact that so many imbeciles latched onto muh fire in a crowded theater is proof that free speech has never existed and will never exist. I'd have onerous regulations on fire safety in that crowded theater way before I'd even consider any curtailment of speech. Why is the theater so crowded? Why aren't there fire exits? We have fire alarms now so why is this a reason why we should sacrifice speech?Fuck you. Free speech is a meme and you have autism.@AtlasFreeman @search_social @alcade @freemo
(DIR) Post #9yn8P7QKJ1zc4qHZTs by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T19:33:36.334167Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social oh, hello Folk, just wake up at the crack of 2 and still unable to formulate a coherent response? That jail time must have been rougher than I thought.
(DIR) Post #9ynDf36WdHOT5KR6Bs by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T20:32:29.186581Z
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Speaking of incoherent, you sound like Judge Dread at this point with his van by the river shtick. Anyway if you can't understand me and I can't understand you there is no point in us talking to each other so frick off ya dumb nigger. I don't care about you. @alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynEoAMb71069wrgrg by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T20:45:21.733062Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social I understand the situation just fine - getting locked inside a concrete and iron niggerbox has snapped what tiny shred of coherence you once possessed, and now you spend your time ragepoasting harder than ever before.I guess if I was a lolcow larping as a future warlord I'd gave snapped too if I was meekly captured by the police.Some elf warrior you turned out to be, faggot!
(DIR) Post #9ynJWTK4NoLdWE44Wm by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T21:38:10.512829Z
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Yeah, cool.You and Dread should share your fanfictions with each other.@alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynQ3VevJi8k2uxJS4 by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T22:51:23.431019Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social I doubt anything has changed in your situation that would make my comments fanfiction.
(DIR) Post #9ynQ8Aurrjc3A3dcvY by freemo@qoto.org
2020-09-03T22:52:13Z
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@alcade this whole damn conversation from the start isnt even worth the electrons it took to send it across the internet.@AtlasFreeman @CreamSeparatist @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynQsvBk9v3Jzbp1Zg by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T23:00:40.929969Z
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@freemo @AtlasFreeman @CreamSeparatist @search_social I can agree with that.
(DIR) Post #9ynQwyzNyCtwwFyiIa by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T23:01:24.089401Z
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You have said once and implied twice that I've been raped by niggers in prison. I'd say that safely qualifies as fanfiction, as it says everything about what's going on in your headspace and nothing about me. Dread would love to read your fantasies. You're two cringe faggots cut from the same low-grade cloth.Stop bothering me with your uncreative attempts at insults, homo.@alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynR9hnHDH1dNBNgSu by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T23:03:42.473112Z
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I'll blocc him soon if he doesn't at least make his insults interesting enough to read.@freemo @alcade @AtlasFreeman @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynRysN5e4Q4woX4fg by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T23:12:57.798722Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social if you have an explanation for what has turned you into an incoherent ragepoasting lolcow I'm all ears.
(DIR) Post #9ynS1yuNnV8M5faNDk by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T23:13:30.872171Z
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I don't particularly like you? Not much of an explanation required.@alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynSociH6jVFRV7I4e by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T23:22:18.922670Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social so it's my fault your brain is broken? That is disappointing.
(DIR) Post #9ynT3u9IZ0oHrY2kAi by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T23:25:04.016610Z
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Sure, man. Why not?As long as you stop posting your nonsense at me, I'm happy. You're just a huge chore when you show up.@alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynT9TrBELu83YE9y4 by ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-03T23:26:05.088893Z
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@alcade @CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social Don't worry about it, he acts the same way towards me, for similarly silly reasons. He might have converted to Islam, that would explain the loss of brain cells and the increased aggression.
(DIR) Post #9ynTFA47j7PUPczT0q by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-03T23:27:05.968812Z
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Confirmed: I do view you both on about the same level. :02_smug:@ChristiJunior @alcade @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ynebooS0d72ecfLdY by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T01:34:27.208288Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @alcade @freemo >satanistThat would imply I “follow” ol’ Lucy. But the entire point of Rebellion against God is to follow NO ONE. P.S., considering the nature of Free Will and the circumstances of The Fall, it’s almost certain that our Divine Creator desired exactly this outcome.>Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators the creator seeks—those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest.>Friedrich Nietzsche, “Thus Spoke Zarathustra”, Datalinks>pervertWhat are you, a feminist? Feminism has made the same mistake as the rest of the progressives. They used to stand for Rebellion against the Patriarchy, now they have become the new Patriarchy. Science used to stand for Rebellion against Orthodoxy, now they have become the new Orthodoxy. Sad!>a SCOTUS decision meant to imprison people for saying that people who are drafted should not willingly accept their enslavement. They were imprisoned as “spies” for their legitimate political actionsA wise observation. The man that dies in war to benefit a man who doesn’t is a cuckold, through and through. Why should I die for the whims of another, regardless of if that another is an Israeli or not? P.S. - the “race war” is just as much a sham as any other war, why do you support it?homo-superior.pngabsorbent-mind.jpg
(DIR) Post #9yo1NvLDEnzrnFKjgm by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T05:49:39.153279Z
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Whatever, satanist.@search_social @AtlasFreeman @alcade @freemo
(DIR) Post #9yp6bpJFNm409e6YPw by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-04T18:22:54.890842Z
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@ChristiJunior @AtlasFreeman @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social whatever the reason, him turning into an incoherent cringelord is too much to bear in 2020.We HAVE to do something, even if we must hold him down and perform an icepick lobotomy until every last drop of patchouli resin is scraped away from his damaged brain.
(DIR) Post #9ypBL57BrdqU1SIev2 by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T19:15:53.965505Z
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>We HAVE to do somethingYou really don't. You can just go on with your life. It's okay. You're free now. I know I formed an integral part of your life but there is life after Folk. Be strong.@alcade @ChristiJunior @AtlasFreeman @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ypC6Ouu3jLf2z7H6m by search_social@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T19:24:25.732333Z
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@alcade @ChristiJunior @AtlasFreeman @CreamSeparatist @freemo It's out of our hands. Only the legendary based blue-eyed chick into raceplay can melt his icy heart.race-mix-3.jpg
(DIR) Post #9ypCTtOKvA1QDu5L84 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-09-04T19:28:42.153214Z
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@alcade @ChristiJunior @AtlasFreeman @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social >turning intoTry again. He's always been like this. It's his default state.Honestly, aside from his retarded ideas about becoming a warlord and his subhuman hate for dogs, he's actually right most of the time.
(DIR) Post #9ypLvms5egV9hINWBE by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-04T21:14:35.852663Z
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@Ricotta @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social >aside from his retarded ideasYou could have ended your sentence there tbhBut no matter. The ice picks have already been ordered. We are awaiting delivery of antiseptics and antibiotics. We will proceed with ridding him of his faggotry whether he likes it or not.
(DIR) Post #9ypM1xPHOk1m6qqPwm by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-09-04T21:15:42.305593Z
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@alcade @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social We both know that he'd just shoot you the moment you approached him.
(DIR) Post #9ypM6vGOnHvquV3frk by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-04T21:16:36.602643Z
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@Ricotta @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social like he shot those cops?
(DIR) Post #9ypMA2vWl4VZXwmkGe by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-09-04T21:17:09.960791Z
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@alcade @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social You're not a cop.
(DIR) Post #9ypMRnwfCMc0IImhOa by alcade@freespeechextremist.com
2020-09-04T21:20:23.039657Z
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@Ricotta @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @CreamSeparatist @freemo @search_social >this time it won't be a larpDon't worry, we will return your boyfriend to you good as new.
(DIR) Post #9ypMcURO3WXKzIFaC0 by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T21:22:16.708076Z
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I'm right all of the time that I actually have a strong opinion about something. You just have yet to realize it. Especially about hating dogs. Think about how many times your life has been negatively impacted by neighbors with barking dogs. They're a massive source of domestic strife between neighbors for no good reason, and require endless food resources to keep millions of dogs around when they could be white kids growing up instead. Furbabies are a problem and if you think rationally about it you will have to agree.@Ricotta @alcade @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @freemo @search_social
(DIR) Post #9ypMoEzbJkTAYDrBaq by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-09-04T21:24:25.473929Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @alcade @freemo @search_social >Think about how many times your life has been negatively impacted by neighbors with barking dogs.Never.You came home from school one day and found your mom getting nailed by the family's chocolate lab, didn't you?
(DIR) Post #9ypMwaFQAvJgn0EcWu by CreamSeparatist@neckbeard.xyz
2020-09-04T21:25:54.985842Z
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So you admit wygirls fuck dogs?Animals really like me, including dogs. I hate dogs for rational reasons because they are a social menace.@Ricotta @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @alcade @freemo @search_social1598936976238.webm
(DIR) Post #9ypN28OsclHW9xJ224 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2020-09-04T21:26:55.841390Z
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@CreamSeparatist @AtlasFreeman @ChristiJunior @alcade @freemo @search_social White women fuck a lot of things they shouldn't, but I'd much rather catch my wife in bed with my dog than a nigger.
(DIR) Post #9zucDirXcGrhDauj4q by taivlam@mastodon.host
2020-10-07T08:02:26Z
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@freemoImagine what would happen if EARN IT & LAED were to be passed in the US... An absolute raging dumpster fire.On a separate but related note, this change at Google seems to be lead by the same neoliberal sheeple who erroneously believe that the best way to be "woke" & contribute to society is to ban terms like blacklist/whitelist or "master"/"slave" devices from their technical training guides m.
(DIR) Post #9zucG9y9nysXrqAdqy by taivlam@mastodon.host
2020-10-07T08:03:07Z
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@freemoImagine what would happen if EARN IT & LAED were to be passed in the US... An absolute raging dumpster fire.On a separate but related note, this change at Google seems to be lead by the same neoliberal sheeple who erroneously believe that the best way to be "woke" & contribute to society is to ban terms like blacklist/whitelist or "master"/"slave" devices from their technical training guides.
(DIR) Post #A1CDFF7xvqb5j9qGe0 by maperal@social.politicaconciencia.org
2020-11-14T17:39:32Z
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@freemoOh, yes, I remember reading about that not so long ago... So this has been happening since last year?
(DIR) Post #A1ETSGEl6Zn6W3AW6i by John_Richmond@qoto.org
2020-11-15T19:50:16Z
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@freemo It AIN'T about "hate" speech--it's about CONTROL. Googl/FaceB/ little Jack's TWTR all running scared. Federation threatens them.GOOD!!!
(DIR) Post #A2gCVIStKy8gt5NlOy by Borgesius@nnia.space
2020-12-29T02:44:53Z
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@freemo this is because of my posts. Sorry
(DIR) Post #A2gCYQMYQiLEFbuRSS by freemo@qoto.org
2020-12-29T02:45:29Z
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@Borgesius This is old news, but are you being serious, I took that as a joke :)
(DIR) Post #A2gCc7uUygYsBCYHey by Borgesius@nnia.space
2020-12-29T02:46:10Z
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@freemo yes, it's a joke. I'm on iOS, did Google go through with this?
(DIR) Post #A2gCoeogSWadiAo6yG by freemo@qoto.org
2020-12-29T02:48:25Z
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@Borgesius I didnt follow up, I think they eventually backed down since people appear to still be using the apps.
(DIR) Post #A4eClMm3OpRQ4mNhlg by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-02-25T23:23:25Z
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@freemo Hence Progressive Web Apps to the rescue. The appstore has ruined the internet
(DIR) Post #A4eCsVOzidDcrY02pU by freemo@qoto.org
2021-02-25T23:24:42Z
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@doktorzhivago yea when the appstore alternatives first came out as a check on tyranny it sounded absurd... but now im glad they exist.Odd to call them "progressive" though, I assume you dont mean in the political sense?
(DIR) Post #A4eDthRGYJ2iRBCBKC by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-02-25T23:36:09Z
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@freemo LOL.PWAs they call em in sillycon valley
(DIR) Post #A4eDzesIzuvQDtgUCW by doktorzhivago@liberdon.com
2021-02-25T23:37:13Z
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@freemo https://web.dev/what-are-pwas/
(DIR) Post #A4fJNaXjRskYfQFdmy by kpeace@liberdon.com
2021-02-26T12:12:17Z
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@freemo what about browsers? Will they take down them as well?
(DIR) Post #A4fJel1zhvAQ7Oapg8 by kpeace@liberdon.com
2021-02-26T12:15:21Z
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@freemo subway tooter is still on the store