Post 9y7P3Xi3Qu3joQYThI by hvincent@scholar.social
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 (DIR) Post #9y7P3TE86DkHuSWWUy by Cyborgneticz@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T14:44:10Z
       
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       Does anyone know a good site to help check pronunciations of non-anglo names?Want to make sure I'm saying a person's name correctly but the internet is Not helping me out
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3UO5mfJDVeBzfM by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T14:48:03Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz kinda depends on the name, but sometimes I've had luck finding a video of someone with that name introducing themselves for some reason or another. sometimes i can only find someone else introducing or mentioning them, which doesn't guarantee proper pronunciation, either.also, finding someone with a similar language background who might be appropriate to ask for help
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3VcfByYhL81916 by Cyborgneticz@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T14:50:02Z
       
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       @hvincent trying to figure out how to pronounce Qiufan. I thought Qi makes a Chee sound, but that doesn't make sense with the rest of the letters
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3WZ9gVLYGXNrBg by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T14:55:54Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz qiufan can be broken up into qiu+fan; qiu sounds kind of like 'chyo' and fan is a slightly longer 'a' sound, like halfway between 'fan' (as in ceiling fan) and 'fawn'
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3Xi3Qu3joQYThI by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T14:59:04Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz also, when i'm saying a chinese name in an english context, i tend to flatten the tones because they don't parse well into an otherwise english sentence; i do this with my own name, and i generally don't expect anglophone speakers to pronounce chinese names tonally anyway.(obviously, i don't speak for every chinese speaker, this is just how i've settled lately as a native chinese/english bilingual person)
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3YQikpmw2xS9Jo by Cyborgneticz@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T15:40:54Z
       
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       @hvincent That makes sense. Tonality is one of the reasons I think monolingual english speakers have such a hard time learning chinese. Not sure if I'm saying absolutely correctly, but I don't think I'm butchering the name 😬
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3aSZCwSALGKeTQ by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T15:54:54Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz i know that feeling! with non anglophone names in a language that i don't have a lot of experience with, i try to hit some balance between 'not butchering it' and 'inflecting it too hard like it's an obviously foreign word'. when i was teaching mostly arabic students, i could hear a distinct difference between how they said each other's names if they were speaking english vs. arabic, which at least kind of cued me for what a reasonable english context pronunciation might have been.
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3brlyiD4hj8IOu by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T15:59:13Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz (and as someone with a non-anglo surname in an anglo context, i have a lot of complicated feelings about the notion of 'correctness' in how my own name is pronounced; i frequently get very well-meaning anglophones trying to pry the 'correct' pronunciation out of me, so they can 'get it right', at the cost of not listening to me when i give them the pronunciation i want them to use, which happens to not be the chinese one)
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3cf31VcpAYBeCm by Cyborgneticz@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T16:03:39Z
       
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       @hvincent That makes a lot of sense. We have two Korean professors in our department - one has a name that's fairly easy for anglo-speakers to get (Wonik). The new professor's name isn't difficult, (Jeong), but she wants a specific anglicized pronunciation and seeing tenured professors roll over themselves with trying to do right is just like - follow the directions.
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3eSiKKwoksQpG4 by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T16:07:43Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-surnames
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3fToXjQDuZxDc0 by Cyborgneticz@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T16:09:14Z
       
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       @hvincent Oh my god but me when I saw my pal write their last name and my mind was blown - thanks high school me for being openly foolishly cringey
       
 (DIR) Post #9y7P3gA00tAM1PguMi by hvincent@scholar.social
       2020-08-14T16:20:33Z
       
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       @Cyborgneticz high school you was doing their best!! feeling cringey at your past is a sign of personal growth :3