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(DIR) Post #9xir6CQ7mEdREVBsTA by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-02T20:08:42Z
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The whole "Linux is more secure than Windows and macOS" bullshit reminds me of Apple when back in the day they bragged about it not needing antivirus or firewall... Fast forward to today, Apple maintains a database of known malware signatures on every macOS installation, similar to SmartScreen, as well as shipping a firewall by default.When will fosstards understand that Linux is really lacking security features that any modern desktop OS like Windows or macOS ships with nowadays? Features like early antimalware (built into the boot manager), TPM support with FDE, network-managed group policies, transparent containerisation assisted by standard APIs with Hyper-V, and so much more.Linux is NOT secure as a desktop OS. The closest thing Linux has to security is SELinux, and everyone prefers turning it off anyway :^)
(DIR) Post #9xirEIONSRW84SEZRQ by Akio@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-08-02T20:10:12.159415Z
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@0x00 proud to see that
(DIR) Post #9xmojvEBKh5273WSoa by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:01:01Z
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@0x00 you should really reconsider talking about stuff you have no knowledge about.If you like windows, that's OK and that's your thing, but most of the features you mentioned are just not needed on Linux.Lots if things you mentioned either give no sense/are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist on Linux (but that's just the way Windows admins think), or do exist in Linux and you obviously seem to don't know that.
(DIR) Post #9xmoskoFR9woPJbUTQ by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T18:02:42Z
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@vamp898 I think you’re talking about yourself, with the whole “don’t talk about stuff you don’t know about” buddy :^)
(DIR) Post #9xmpJPA02Iw75AUBjU by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:07:29Z
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@0x00 I'm just a Senior Admin with 10+ years of experience with Gentoo and LFS... what do I know about Linux.I am 99% sure that I know much more about the Windows NT Kernel and the OS surrounding it than you.Windows is neither more nor less secure as any other operating system on a desktop. It all comes down to the user, nothing more, nothing less.
(DIR) Post #9xmpWKTAmtDIIacJKC by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T18:09:51Z
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@vamp898 don’t flex on me, I also have more than 10 years of experience and I have done extensive cybersecurity research into Windows and Linux.
(DIR) Post #9xmq3dA6JJwbpQZjn6 by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:15:48Z
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@0x00 I haven't met a single windows admin yet who could properly detect an Handle Leak on a server, not even with 15+ years experience. Its very easy as an windows Admin to be bad and still work as an senior for years.Surrounded by blind ones, the one eyed is the king.
(DIR) Post #9xmqAQS3xvSmR3DWjo by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T18:17:01Z
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@vamp898 your point being?You still haven’t refuted any of my arguments, by the way, you have just limited yourself to “uh dude I know more than you”.
(DIR) Post #9xmrKRfaOKIz3yssDI by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:30:04Z
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@0x00 due to limit, i'll post using several Toots
(DIR) Post #9xmwVJug4P2lxkwpiS by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:30:18Z
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@0x00 > Features like early antimalware (built into the boot manager)Having worked for one of the biggest Anti Malware Players on the market i can say two things.1. Having that normally doesn't help shit2. There is not a single malware that infects bootloaders on LinuxAnd why is that? People install software from signed repositories and/or doesn't have any possibility to edit the Bootloader. Every monkey can manipulate the bootloader on Windows.
(DIR) Post #9xmwVKOSHgrZS6sc88 by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T18:30:29Z
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@0x00 > TPM support with FDEIs possible on Linux> network-managed group policiesIs possible on Linux> transparent containerisation assisted by standard APIsIs possible on Linux
(DIR) Post #9xmwVL9xR4rPpR6YAi by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T19:28:04Z
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@vamp898 how to manage group policies on a 1000+ workstation environment similar to Active Directory?It being possible doesn't mean it is automatically better.Also, no, there are no standard containerisation APIs on Linux akin to Hyper-V for apps. Docker isn't nearly as secure, and KVM is all over the place and not really an alternative. You cannot logically isolate different windows completely without also booting another OS with overhead on stuff like KVM.
(DIR) Post #9xmwggXKIUGPJURdhI by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T19:30:11Z
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@vamp898 really? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/boothole-grub-bootloader-bug-lets-hackers-hide-malware-in-linux-windows/
(DIR) Post #9xmxGmTThIxw9drAPY by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-08-04T19:36:43.046028Z
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@0x00 Linux gets less viruses because less viruses are written for Linux, and Linux users are generally more intelligent
(DIR) Post #9xmxtg8dBnSTnSeZmq by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T19:43:43Z
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@mewmew that doesn’t prove Linux is architecturally more secure (because it is not).
(DIR) Post #9xmxwVm2BFxWWLR104 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-08-04T19:44:15.976489Z
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@0x00 than Windows? I would say it is.
(DIR) Post #9xmyObC7cUIZRQ1vsG by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T19:49:18Z
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@mewmew https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php?year=2018
(DIR) Post #9xn1KWHmEDbevAQD6e by ink32@blob.cat
2020-08-04T20:22:13.621553Z
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@mewmew @0x00 help I don't know what's the truth anymore
(DIR) Post #9xn1PSvO9V6zwdJAKe by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T20:23:02Z
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@ink32 @mewmew I'm not being sarcastic. Windows is architecturally more secure than Linux. Of course that doesn't mean it's exploited less often.
(DIR) Post #9xn1VMWYrUitpcVVRo by wowaname@anime.website
2020-08-04T20:24:10.831150Z
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@mewmew @0x00 exploits are easier to find in foss with more eyes on the code too
(DIR) Post #9xn1a56T3kwjFXYIxE by wowaname@anime.website
2020-08-04T20:25:01.459334Z
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@mewmew @0x00 and software diversity, no two linux systems are alike. kernel bugs are hard to exploit because most of them are local exploits, you still need remote access somehow
(DIR) Post #9xn1dkbVDZeOpWonLM by wowaname@anime.website
2020-08-04T20:25:41.591333Z
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@vamp898 @0x00 hes clinically retarded dont worry
(DIR) Post #9xn1rnJBxVXLGxwyEC by igel@jaeger.website
2020-08-04T20:28:07.774695Z
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@0x00 @vamp898 lol you niggers are OLD
(DIR) Post #9xn2DpPoo2UUB5YYCm by ink32@blob.cat
2020-08-04T20:32:10.630429Z
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@0x00 @mewmew If we talk in practical terms, Windows Update sucks so much most people don't use it, so any virus that gets past Windows Defender has full control over the PC (as long as the vulnerability is big).Which is why Microsoft deciding updates were obligatory is a blessing in disguise.But then again, other than Chrome, apps usually don't update themselves automatically, so I don't know really.And I don't know what to make of legacy code in Windows either. I don't know why they bother with that anymore. They have a monopoly, if they decide they don't want to keep unmaintained apps working people simply have to listen.
(DIR) Post #9xn2PUPoi35EWS7G52 by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T20:34:17Z
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@ink32 @mewmew the fact that Windows Update is not optional in later Windows versions makes the whole OS so much more secure. On most Linux environments, there’s not even anything like auto-update notifications and optimised delivery and so on but I’d say that’s more in line with UX.
(DIR) Post #9xn30mIJCOpMggNuMa by ink32@blob.cat
2020-08-04T20:41:04.232058Z
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@0x00 @mewmew Of course, we're the happy ones because we don't have our PC suddenly reboot on us, the computers that do that are the ones used by people who don't know why their computer needs updates. And then the people that fix them don't have to wipe the viruses off them because they usually aren't there.Also, Linux architecture is a 1x1 Lego tower. Of course Windows has the better one.
(DIR) Post #9xn3EfgAagVOE1Acam by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T20:43:33Z
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@ink32 @mewmew I use macOS, but yeah, macOS doesn’t force updates on me anyway.
(DIR) Post #9xn3d8xfN6sLza1Vya by ink32@blob.cat
2020-08-04T20:47:59.135065Z
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@0x00 @mewmew Is the macOS architecture any better than in Linux?
(DIR) Post #9xn486kFf6yY5yVud6 by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T20:53:32Z
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@ink32 @mewmew Short answer: yes. Long answer: well you know, it has its quirks like the addiction of Apple developers to proprietary formats (and thus not implementing FOSS codecs as first-class citizens on the OS), as well as excessive use of XML, and heavy reliance on GUIs, but other than that, macOS, even to this day, pretty much feels and acts like a standard BSD fork. It strongly deviates with multithreaded workload implementation, for example, because Apple implemented Grand Central Dispatch and went their own way and so forth. Overall, though, macOS is incredibly flexible (iOS is technically macOS, something Linux hasn’t been able to do, even with Android) rock-solid, very standarised (Linux standarisation efforts are relatively recent with FreeDesktoo, DBus, systemd and I don’t think I agree with that direction personally), but yeah, I think it is better overall.
(DIR) Post #9xn4FSYIyuMnkyQoJk by jeff@pl.i2p.rocks
2020-08-04T20:54:55.866691Z
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@ink32 @0x00 @mewmew Short Answer: noLong Answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
(DIR) Post #9xn4ajFS6M0rcSksYS by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T20:58:44Z
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@jeff @ink32 @mewmew the bane of my existence.
(DIR) Post #9xn5NoiOZ4GIlQhSds by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T21:07:33Z
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@0x00 > how to manage group policies on a 1000+ workstation environment similar to Active Directory?Uhm? By just doing it? By doing your job and stuff like that. Don't really get your question. Im still thinking you're misunderstand your lack of knowledge for a lack of features.Do you think Google Manages its +1000 Servers manually by typing commands manually into them?You know that automatisation was done on UNIX before Windows was even invented?
(DIR) Post #9xn5YeMfO6Ahqdhb4S by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T21:09:34Z
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@vamp898 I asked you a very specific question. You didn’t describe the thought process backing your answer, “bro just do it” is not a valid response. Dismissed.
(DIR) Post #9xn5oPJb6pEVo2mRQe by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T21:12:21Z
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@0x00 Uhm no you didn't? I told you that i didn't get your question, but it makes no sense.You expect me like writing a tutorial or something here on Mastodon or you want an link to some documentation?What exactly do you want from me?
(DIR) Post #9xn65JAdCwlRfie4x6 by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-04T21:15:24Z
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@vamp898 I want you to explain what tools and/or methods there are for managing Linux WORKSTATIONS on a network remotely. Also, take a closer look, I said workstations. Ansible and Kubernetes are not valid in this situation. They are not AD replacements, and even if they were, you can manage Windows machines through Ansible too.
(DIR) Post #9xn6L4A2mRoJkosuB6 by vamp898@mastodon.juggler.jp
2020-08-04T21:18:09Z
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@0x00 Kubernetes? KUBERNETES? Where did you learn to fly? Oh my god Kubernetes...> I want you to explain what tools and/or methods there are for managing Linux Uhm? The Operating System itself? You don't need any additional Tools...I mean Linux is not an Operating System, its an Kernel. You need the GNU Operating System, but GNU ships everything you need for that scenario.There is no specific way, there are lots of ways to accomplish that task.I'll name an example in the next toot