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(DIR) Post #9xgKxc2bZ5rTEq8Cie by luke@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T14:59:09.087Z
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🤪 LAUGH NOW, You won't be laughing soon! What you're referring to Linux is, in fact, Soystemd/Snap, or as I've recently taken to calling it Soystemd+Snap. I'...
(DIR) Post #9xgL7AsrODPtuL8IMK by donaim@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T15:00:40.931Z
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DIE SYSTEMBLOAT!!
(DIR) Post #9xgLv5HIVRMh06MV0K by donaim@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T15:09:44.084Z
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Containers BAD, but transactional package managers aren't!! The legacy build system/package management is deeply retarded. We have to decrease suffering, we HAVE to switch. To NIX! not snaps, flatpacks, fedora silverblue or similar amateur-level clones of nix, because they are just as bad technically as they are ethically
(DIR) Post #9xgM2MjvyvFRBWEEkq by amolith@social.nixnet.services
2020-08-01T15:11:14Z
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@luke konspiracee theorees from a doomer boomerI 100% agree. The current trends are ridiculous.
(DIR) Post #9xgM2cFKKUGvHE21Gi by anjum@mstdn.io
2020-08-01T15:11:18Z
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@luke This is an awfully bold vid from a systemd apologist 🙃
(DIR) Post #9xgMY1u4zCk9pR4YbI by thunder@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T15:16:25.709Z
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Ok if this garbage happens, im moving to artix
(DIR) Post #9xgPxmoM1OBaPcMrwG by murtezayesil@fosstodon.org
2020-08-01T15:55:15Z
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I just woke up and I got to tell you what I saw. Systemd and all of its modules (linuxd and stuff) were written in elisp and were running in emacs.@luke
(DIR) Post #9xgRGPnptF5cVdZXfM by h265@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T16:09:25.422Z
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bought a dress, female hormones and a Macbook Air. Am I employed now?
(DIR) Post #9xgVlzsoC6cvChDGym by delzak@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T16:59:55.004Z
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I've had a recurrent nightmare "Steam Stadia". Gamers are the most major pillar keeping cloud compute away. Some day not too far away every app will be run from your favorite browser.btw the most popular desktop Linux distro is ChromeOS, likely more popular than every other desktop distro combined.
(DIR) Post #9xgYlB9n5n1Jk4SRua by pavot@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T17:33:12.989Z
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One of your better videos by far.
(DIR) Post #9xgc9uaS8ULFSAPiqW by inigo@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T18:11:46.536Z
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I agree with @Pavot I don't remember the last time I enjoyed some much one of your videos. Which doesn't mean, I don't enjoy the rest of them.
(DIR) Post #9xgdnxEDpmx5BPfo6S by togetherforfeedom@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T18:29:56.519Z
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@donaim I think you've misspelled "Guix". Here's the link if you forgot. https://guix.gnu.org/
(DIR) Post #9xgg7Givm7pN3bNI12 by alex@pl.cleac.me
2020-08-01T18:55:57.693226Z
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@luke the hell you had a nightmare 🤣🤠Though, I had similar thoughts when I've found out about systemd-homed (including OpenBSD thougths, except it was about FreeBSD)
(DIR) Post #9xglpLKAWz6nq1czlA by kian@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T19:59:54.851Z
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@thunder move to artix anyways :)
(DIR) Post #9xgmBbWGzwlMRBu9Dc by kian@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T20:01:23.764Z
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I just looked at systemd-homed. Now I believe everything in the video.
(DIR) Post #9xgr9xxb5oCVEBiv3I by chuck@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T20:59:51.634Z
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@thunder Recently installed artix on one of my machines. Pretty solid experience so far.
(DIR) Post #9xgttD0wAYd4r8zFYG by cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io
2020-08-01T21:30:11.630Z
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@delzak@videos.lukesmith.xyz _Progressive Web Apps_ are the future. Get over it.
(DIR) Post #9xgx6u0fvHzdpf5MYa by cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io
2020-08-01T22:06:27.929Z
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I'm not that pessimistic: Whenever a shitty new technology emerged in the history of FOSS (especially Linux) that undermines user's freedom, alternatives (and forks) used to pop up really quickly and took the shit to its grave. It happened to the Unity desktop and it will happen to Snap, too. I'm pretty sure about that.But aside from that: There are good reasons why systemd conquered the linux world by storm (even the conservative Debian and the bullheaded Arch adopted it). IT'S JUST SUPERIOR to all the init systems we had before. Even luke [kind of admits it](https://videos.lukesmith.xyz/videos/watch/2e571018-5dde-4148-af13-453608bdd800).The same applies to containers. The Linux package systems (DEB, RPM, TGZ, etc.) were ahead of their time back in the 90s and early 2000s. But then things got out of control: Dozens if not hundreds of distributions and different package repos popped up and they were all incompatible. It was easier to run a DOS application on a modern windows machine than installing an deb for Ubuntu on an OpenSUSE. They all have different libraries in differen version under different names in their repos. And from a FOSS developer's perspective I can tell you packaging your new C/C++ app for one dozen different Linux distributions in three different package formats just to please a majority of Linux users is **not fun** at all!Don't believe me? Try to install _gscan2pdf_ on openSUSE without breaking your whole system. Then we can talk again.These interdependencies between packages of specific versions also break downwards compatibility - it's almost impossible to setup and old application that hasn't been maintained for some years on a modern linux desktop.Don't belive me? Try to build and run _k9copy_ on your modern Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch/whatever system.I don't like using containers, appimages, etc. for everything either, but I can definitely see why some developers are so excited about them.It gets worse when you try to also target mobile users. And nowadays you have to since this makes up the majority of all internet users. You just have to accept reality.1. Develop your C/C++ application for Linux desktops and package it for about 10-20 different distributions.2. Cross-compile it for windows (which is the easiest part, ironically).3. Wipe it all away and start from scratch in Kotlin for your Android app.4. Wipe that all away and start from scratch in Swift or Objective-C for your iPhone app.Sounds like fun, doesn't it?But you know what? There is a way to target all platforms with just ONE codebase 🙌! **Web apps** come to the help. They look and work the same across all platforms. They did what Java always aspired but never achieved.Electron even enables applications to be run offline and without the devs worrying about 17 different platforms.TL;DR systemd, appimages and _progressive web apps_ don't take away any of your freedoms. They improve your overall FOSS experience. They have come to stay.
(DIR) Post #9xh5h2o1UqjhAducue by h264@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-01T23:42:04.128Z
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@h265 what happened to you, my son?
(DIR) Post #9xh68Mf3ma6yZOkO80 by KatGoesWoof@shitposter.club
2020-08-01T23:47:46.890224Z
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@cinnabarowl On systemd: I think luke's point is how feature creep the project is, not whether the init system and the core features are good or bad.On package managers: If we are gonna have a bunch of package managers like snap and flatpak (and we will if they catch on), then they will not change how "hard" it is for developers. Having many package managers on a single system is stupid.Distributing old software full of dependencies is basically the only valid application and it only saves AppImage. Not that you couldn't just make a static binary or use a bundling tool for whichever language the software uses.On building and packaging: Ideally an independent third party (a user) would build, test and package the software for each distribution.Supporting builds for many platforms is not hard if you are using a decent build tool and not importing one million random libraries.For most software, sand boxing can be easily done with apparmor, but that is not very useful if it is open source and the distro tests it for you. This sand boxing thing comes from mobile, where everything is proprietary, garbage and developers are cucked by google and apple on all layers.On progressive web apps: People use them because they can reuse their webdev "skills", not because they are portable. In fact, they are not even that portable, you will need some kind of framework with platform specific plugins to interact with the hardware in any way and to make it work decently on mobile. If you want to target all desktops you can use java, wxwidgets, qt or python+tk. If you want to target all mobile you can use native-script or react-js. If If you want to target all desktop and mobile you can use python/kivy, qt/python/C++, JUCE/C++ or Go/Gio. I'm sure there are more alternatives. (I'm talking about GUIs obviously)If the progressive web app community really cared about making quality cross platform software, they would follow a native approach like the projects I listed above.Bundling a bunch of libraries made by a bunch of literally whos with a entire web browser is not quality software.I found your comment to be kinda out of touch with the video so I'm mostly replying to the points and not trying to make any connection with what luke said.
(DIR) Post #9xh7dOeoVl9vgwzdXk by lainos@video.autizmo.xyz
2020-08-02T00:04:25.054Z
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@donaim@videos.lukesmith.xyz die cis scum LOL
(DIR) Post #9xhAcR3yNfkIj4ziTI by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
2020-08-02T00:38:00Z
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@luke I really don't like those universal packages(none of them), one of the reasons I moved to parabola. But still some programs are available only as AppImage(e.g., Tutanota) that's why I've not installed it yet.Didn't knew about Systemd homed though. Good thing I use openrc.
(DIR) Post #9xhBWvOGoMoD09QNJA by amdac@social.privacytools.io
2020-08-02T00:48:12Z
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@luke Yes, OpenBSD! I've been waiting to hear you say those words. :D
(DIR) Post #9xhHdysephzzZtNyvg by lainos@video.autizmo.xyz
2020-08-02T01:56:42.002Z
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@murtezayesil@fosstodon.org BASED
(DIR) Post #9xhaWPDcvGDg4pINIe by sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-08-02T05:27:50Z
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@luke switch to #plan9 #9front
(DIR) Post #9xhaY9rkyUUX2YtwqO by sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-08-02T05:28:26Z
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@luke (ok. That's unfair, I didn't watch the video yet)
(DIR) Post #9xhqyA0afLyqHISDJI by skyflighter@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T08:32:07.214Z
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Aplications won't be referred to as "apps", they'll be referred to as "snapps"
(DIR) Post #9xiZHZFTRbL42mTozQ by kilter@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T16:48:41.644Z
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Take it back, I've only had arch installed for three weeks.
(DIR) Post #9xib6NrDejFBRBvipk by kilter@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T17:09:18.144Z
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@cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io Sorry to burst your progressive bubble, but web apps and the web stack is full of rot, is not a functional solution on mobile, and all but controlled by google due to their domination of market and development. They have come to die.
(DIR) Post #9xibK1BejyfxBGzTVI by kilter@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T17:11:49.355Z
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@delzak pleb users don't count
(DIR) Post #9xictziHnTqCzOyIe8 by kilter@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T17:29:31.037Z
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@delzak @cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io not to mention your emphasis on "progressive" paints you as just some lefty fag talking out of his ass because he can't into anything but web apps. Join your tranny allies and kill yourself
(DIR) Post #9xihfk9DNAJOQiaiIK by literally.hitler@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T18:22:34.893Z
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@cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io > But then things got out of control: Dozens if not hundreds of distributions and different package repos popped up and they were all incompatible.No they didn't. It's what you get with package system built around shared libraries. It's a tradeoff. You take a static binary compiled in the 90s and it will run under any modern distro.
(DIR) Post #9xihoqLRhVDMFyeRf6 by literally.hitler@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T18:24:38.328Z
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How do we cancel luke now that he's running his own tube instance?
(DIR) Post #9xiiCQav5kHrLL8Rl2 by literally.hitler@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-02T18:28:53.844Z
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Reported for hate speech.
(DIR) Post #9xjiBxLzjum7f4iZrU by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2020-08-03T06:05:39Z
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@luke Snaps should die in a fire.
(DIR) Post #9xjiHljrpvmDNMej3I by 0x00@social.panthermodern.net
2020-08-03T06:04:38Z
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@luke this video has no sound. I love open source. Not.
(DIR) Post #9xjjZ1Nn1fvglu7TsG by blitzed@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-03T06:19:01Z
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@luke waka waka
(DIR) Post #9xjjrVu0IGdAdg0OBs by blitzed@noagendasocial.com
2020-08-03T06:22:18Z
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@luke and yes, systemd is The Devil's Work.
(DIR) Post #9xl4fMHaWeb7Wb2en2 by baguette@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-03T21:50:01.405Z
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@kian > he's beginning to believe
(DIR) Post #9xl6GjHc4cNNWnRAgq by baguette@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-03T22:08:00.701Z
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meh.. this wood stroller clearly lacks thinking rigour here and requires schooling.acktually, what he refers to as OpenBS_D is a simplistic appellation for what is better known as the iWSL_snap+OpenBSD app. And yes it's libre software financed by ethical Delaware companies from virtuous humanists: J. Bezos E. Musk. Locally developped, gluten-free and guaranteed organic apps my man.
(DIR) Post #9xl8VHTJxNljWcyoWu by baguette@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-03T22:33:01.489Z
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@cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io you've got a point on the bloat induced by the lack of compatibility from the myriad of package managers. IMHO, those containers solve dev-bloat by user-bloat. Similarly to some devs who'll write utter-unoptimized kotlin code to plead their wagecuckery (we're all waged in a way or another), which requires a smartphone as powerful as a 5 years older PC to run, say, an email client desktop/embedded compliant.In companies and their required short-term logic, it's understandable. But not in the sustainable long-term approach of community-made libre software. Large corps have invested libre software, and while bringing a little goodness, they also brought along their short-sightedness ways.As for the feature of containers you didn't mention, it doesn't bring "security" as some people sell it (not implying you think so) since most containers access $HOME, plugged devices, and other system files. Far less secure than apparmor/firejail, SElinux, etc.You're right at the moment, it's the best solution to deliver anywhere:- when you don't have the resources to dispatch all across the web, - when your soft is not eFamous enough to get your software packaged by communities themselves. I'm no specialist for mass distro dispatch, but aren't tools existing to deliver to every distros yet ?
(DIR) Post #9xmdHtIfo5ZSWx3S1w by anon_johndoe@libre.video
2020-08-04T15:52:37.649Z
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@literally.hitler@videos.lukesmith.xyz xD
(DIR) Post #9xmsQckMDijP6qcs0O by veta@qoto.org
2020-08-04T18:42:09Z
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@luke He has finally lost it
(DIR) Post #9xsTNbwFR99dpQPiN6 by h265@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-07T11:29:43.958Z
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@h264 :D
(DIR) Post #9y1rdhABvPYHzNmGLQ by halo@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-12T00:13:42.904Z
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You have some weird dreams man.
(DIR) Post #9y6bBINpps93YDOXpI by datboi94@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-14T07:01:30.953Z
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@0x00@social.panthermodern.net just uh.... unmute the video, because you’re technically using a web browser by default videos start muted
(DIR) Post #9yBapWEK74gvFfZGG8 by drummyfish@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-16T16:52:12.298Z
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Very based, this is exactly as I am seeing it. Am also aiming to transition to BSD or something.
(DIR) Post #9yLgpU6qXX19yr2Kbw by drummyfish@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-08-21T13:47:15.745Z
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Luke, are you deleting my comments? I am neither trolling, spamming nor posting anything "illegal", and I thought you weren't in favor of censorship. :/
(DIR) Post #A15ng3232SRwf43m9A by unabomber@social.here.blue
2020-11-11T15:25:02.820550Z
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@luke Excellent video analysis of where Linux is headed. It is not pretty. By the time the Year of the Linux Desktop arrives, Linux will only exist as a name. I am already trying to explore FreeBSD etc. because of this.
(DIR) Post #A16htYdYREsrscccRk by ru@libre.video
2020-11-12T01:51:51.107Z
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that guy is blabbering far too much.
(DIR) Post #A16hvnbZl4tOsjlVA0 by ru@libre.video
2020-11-12T01:52:23.848Z
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LOL
(DIR) Post #A1k1nJawCXiwbBPhy4 by viper911@videos.lukesmith.xyz
2020-12-01T01:11:29.324Z
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@delzak @cinnabarowl@tube.privacytools.io i shalll fight against it tooo the end!