Post 9xC5wSY2dTG4TIO90S by cbush@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #9xC0NcdocOFrrueria by cbush@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-17T23:43:24Z
       
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       @fosstodon Thank you. My life has been so much more enjoyable and less stressful since I bid farewell to Facebook and joined your ranks. It enriches my life to converse with other people sharing my interests. It makes life more bearable to have a "safe space" where politics are rarely, if ever, mentioned. It gives me hope to know there are people who are not brainless drones addicted to social media and all the trash that goes with it. I just gave my first donation. Thank you.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC0ONxGhsk4br7Z44 by mike@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-17T23:47:17Z
       
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       @cbush That's really nice to hear. Thank you.@fosstodon
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wPyADtN4TRaSo4 by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-17T23:55:25Z
       
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       @cbush you mean thanks to @MastodonThe @fosstodon  implementation is not for freedom of speech! They have their "Code of conduct" in addition to the Mastodon Terms of use. 🤷‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wR4w6CNlujlO08 by cbush@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-17T23:58:11Z
       
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       @cldtech @Mastodon @fosstodon I think it's these specific reasons I like Fosstodon. In all other media, we're bombarded by "Free Speech". It's a relief to go somewhere we can have a discussion without it become heated over differences in political values/stances. Furthermore, I've noticed that when people do disagree here, they do so using Principled Debate over measurable traits rather than the useless/harmful Positional Debates we see in most other media.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wRsZ7g56Oez1MG by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:01:59Z
       
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       @cbush @Mastodon @fosstodon Agreed for the arguments over the opinions! But within 3 days on fosstodon i was already having a post deleted. Mastodon does not allow insults or worst either, but it's a serious problem to delete simple opinions on arbitrary basis. In fact that's the exact opposite of why Mastodon has been made.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wSY2dTG4TIO90S by cbush@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:02:35Z
       
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       @cldtech @Mastodon @fosstodon I don't disagree. Have you contacted the admin about this?
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wTGhxOzGhpHocy by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:08:20Z
       
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       @cbush @Mastodon @fosstodon sure i had made a public post with them tagged and as soon as i realize Code of conducts was not just a misuse for Terms of use and mentioned it the whole post was deleted.. 😂 Then i look others in the fediverse and since for me Freedom is why i quit Twitter, i switch for the original Mastodon. I's not only tech centric but you still are connected to fosstodon people just like me and you.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC5wTeoVmGluaZ4CW by mike@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:49:21Z
       
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       @cbush He did contact us, though his decision to move was his own. I'm not sure what happened regarding his post. I can't find any reference to any of his posts being deleted (though there is definitely at least one missing) in our audit logs. His account is still available on Fosstodon, as are his posts, including the one where he referred to Fosstodon as a cult. If he wanted to come back to Fosstodon, he'd be welcome.@cldtech @Mastodon @fosstodon
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC6AKM3tWfl7BOijQ by cbush@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:51:56Z
       
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       @mike Based on the size and quality of your member base alone, I'm sure @fosstodon does not delete posts arbitrarily, without cause, or any more than necessary. I appreciate you providing these facts though. Transparency is always appreciated.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC6Iv3NKlQNFZkp6W by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:53:28Z
       
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       @mike i do attribute a serious point for the truth, Fosstodon never lied!
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC6JoxdTI6idzV1vs by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:53:36Z
       
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       @mike i do attribute a serious point for the truth, Fosstodon never lied!
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC7KESwkD2rhUuAO8 by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:57:44Z
       
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       @cbush well then maybe @fosstodon can tell us what has been deleted in this matter; https://fosstodon.org/web/statuses/104386876625533641
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC7KEvJ2ljL7SAoam by mike@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T01:04:55Z
       
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       @cldtech From what I can tell, this is the comment that was removed."Waow.. @fosstodon is not what i thought at all! I cannot accept those terms.. This is a shame for @mastodon and the #fediverse.My few followers are welcome to switch to my #mastodon account.@cldtechhttps://fosstodon.org/media/PuO5T22TZLvUyiqAERQ"I can't find any reference to it's removal in our audit log, or any other statuses by you, and I only know about this one because we have email notifications turned on.@cbush @fosstodon
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC7a8tdDgFr3myOsC by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:07:47Z
       
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       @mike thanks, well weather it's the one or not i don;t see what is reproachable in this..
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC7dpYd3wWSExuMQi by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:08:28Z
       
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       @mike thanks, well whether it's the one or not i don;t see what is reproachable in this..
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC7w0IHsq5ukdvivQ by mike@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T01:11:46Z
       
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       @cldtech Me neither. You're free to disagree with our CoC and our Terms of Service. You did so, and moved to another instance. It's a great thing about Mastodon that you can do exactly what you did.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC8FIjxWas5So4i6S by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:15:13Z
       
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       @mike sure, i think what is not that clear about your 😂 instance or any others around a specific domain like you and tech, is that some are! Not only different "mirrors" of the same network or concept. It's just the platform.. and a little more. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC8JYj22CzgCNfhJI by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:16:00Z
       
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       @mike sure, i think what is not that clear about your 😂 instance or any others around a specific domain like you and tech, is that some are! Like forums let's say. Not only different "mirrors" of the same network or concept. It's just the platform.. and a little more. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #9xC8N55EBWHRQLjVAm by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:16:44Z
       
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       @mike sure, i think what is not that clear about your instance or any others around a specific domain like you and tech, is that some are! 😂 Like forums let's say. Not only different "mirrors" of the same network or concept. It's just the platform.. and a little more. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7m9zBBmgZ4XG5fk by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:30:58Z
       
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       @cbush @cldtech @Mastodon @fosstodon I'd like to think Article 19 of the UDHR or the First Amendment (if you're from USA) supercedes any CoC, but realistically free speech means different things to different people. It is not meant to be a shield to run behind when 'you' feel like acting like an incontinent asshole, regardless of political, religious etc., ideologies. 1/2
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mAIK2bzw1uDNVg by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:46:32Z
       
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       @cbush @cldtech @Mastodon @fosstodon I do find the trend of internet platforms curtailing free speech abhorrent, even illegal depending on jurisdiction. Fosstodon has been an excellent instance thus far, with many well rounded individuals who excel at conducting themselves in an exemplary fashion such that I don't think we even needed to have "this isnt a free-speech zone" in the CoC. Luckily my opinion wasn't solicited. :)
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mB1hJuIIIdRcEi by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T00:50:29Z
       
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       @Citizenzibb interesting but have you consider that is because you just never know about anything else since it's deleted.. I assume you compare because you tried at least one other instance?
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mBTLf6PbgONhKq by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:57:30Z
       
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       @cldtech In my humble opinion, and drawing from experience, for all the hullabaloo mastodon makes about federation, many, if not all instances censor one or more other instances for various reasons. Some publicly list reasons why those instances are blocked. 1/2
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mCVVoXjktOOwLY by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T00:58:03Z
       
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       @cldtech Ultimately, I don't think any of my posts have been redacted or deleted by anyone on Fosstodon. Then again, I conduct myself with a certain amount of decorum, so your mileage may vary :). (2/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mCnwi0TxoZ1f4y by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:06:18Z
       
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       @Citizenzibb i am also now wondering if you guys have a smaller maximum length for your post, based on your split comments!
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mEvSp1gUOSYh4i by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T01:17:28Z
       
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       @cldtech I make a concerted effort to relay my thoughts and opinions in a coherent, logical fashion. Character limits aren't very conducive to my process.That being said, Shakespeare was right when he said "brevity is the soul of wit" :)
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mGAOD1DYF2Y7yi by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T01:18:43Z
       
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       @Citizenzibb that doesn't say if you limit is smaller lol. My comments are longer then what you break in two..
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mGmfufqI9mShea by Citizenzibb@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T01:26:32Z
       
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       @cldtech I am most happy for you. Use your character limit well!
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mH56o8aV4x5QO0 by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T02:07:48Z
       
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       @Citizenzibb you still did not even said what is your limit, i don't know if it's different you avoid the question. And i won;t know because i avoid this kind of behavior.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD7mHSrNpaQGcCOPI by kev@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T12:44:20Z
       
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       @cldtech the character limit on Fosstodon is 500 characters.Both Mike and I have been through the audit logs between 17-23 June (your initial sign up - last toot), which capture every action done by the team - there's no record of a post of yours being deleted. If it was deleted, it wasn't by us.There were also no reports made against your account, which is usually how we take action. With 11k users, it's impossible for us to see all.@Citizenzibb
       
 (DIR) Post #9xD96dPtZj6w6257g0 by cldtech@mastodon.online
       2020-07-18T12:59:12Z
       
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       @kev @Citizenzibb you cited to us the removed comment 11h ago.. Anyway you'll excuse me if i don't believe a software! 🤷‍♂️ It's been a little while already since encryption is useless.
       
 (DIR) Post #9xDAbamrVAkus89L4y by kev@fosstodon.org
       2020-07-18T13:16:21Z
       
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       @cldtech I didn’t say a comment hadn’t been deleted. I said if it had, it wasn’t done by the team.Anyway, good luck on the new instance.@Citizenzibb