Post 9x4Cl59aQ7Rb8znBWC by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
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(DIR) Post #9x1OAEeIlmm9r3TZAW by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-12T20:51:53.695402Z
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@hushroom thinkpad arrived undamaged, thank you!
(DIR) Post #9x1W9IOIAho6ns3Bbs by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-12T22:21:24.154095Z
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@xj9 glad to hear it, hope its useful for sunshine gardens or any other R&D pursuit. or fingers crossed one day maybe even a daily driver again on a more sane and minimalist software ecosystem.
(DIR) Post #9x1ZQwVcZ9om0saJxg by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-12T22:58:05.750049Z
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@hushroom ♥
(DIR) Post #9x1a1ceRMM2l8kCTQ0 by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-12T23:04:48.621206Z
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@hushroom this one will be my solarpunk dev machine for the foreseeable future. I would like to coreboot a salvaged x200 and experiment with directly booting microkernels, so i'll probably just stick with the T61 for dev :)
(DIR) Post #9x1l2vZHbzSZawc3cG by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-13T01:08:18.226974Z
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@xj9 i think theres maybe a better possibility than coreboot even, something that has been used by small companies to develop custom hardware before. my full reply here literally turned into a small blog post (its something i've been wanting to write about anyways). but TLDR theres another old and useless-to-me hardware i should sent along with the t61 that has really cool firmwarehttps://proxy.vulpes.one/gemini/sunshinegardens.org/~hushroom/forth_blog.gmi
(DIR) Post #9x1qBoEek9XhEK1Frs by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-13T02:05:54.381701Z
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@hushroom you mean an XO?!? or just an open firmware device? i've been interested in FORTH for a while, would be cool to have some hardware to explore.
(DIR) Post #9x1qMKKuFRwtgVxS88 by nik@letsalllovela.in
2020-07-13T02:07:52.425460Z
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@xj9 @hushroom tfw know the person who developed the network stack for XO and go to play with one for a few hours
(DIR) Post #9x1qT3z3Rcq0zmwu6S by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-13T02:08:54.729933Z
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@nik @hushroom oh snap that's awesome I love those things
(DIR) Post #9x1r1eIgvUTNTYcrNA by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-13T02:15:04.692122Z
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@xj9 I have an XO I got long ago, back in the days when netbooks were the up and coming form factor. despite everything cool about it, its too physically small and underpowered for daily use for me (so it lives in the closet of things that i don't want to throw out, and are too valueless to ebay). until recently, I never had any clue about Open Firmware but i just recently booted the XO up again and then stumbled on the whole OFW aspect of it which totally blew my mind. i think theres huge potential to learn from it, maybe to replace coreboot not just as an alternative, but replace an opaque binary blob concept with a more approachable low level repl environment for firmware development and modification.
(DIR) Post #9x3qgXhqdYStG7FRmy by allison@blob.cat
2020-07-14T01:20:54.177116Z
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@hushroom @xj9 Oh goodness me, don't remind me of the nightmare that is the Geode. I haven't personally experienced it, but I've dealt with VIA chips that are nearly as bad. That being said, Open Firmware is absolutely *kino*. IDK how the Apple and Sun implementations compare to what's on the XO-1, but I seem to remember the former at least being fairly capable.
(DIR) Post #9x4Cl59aQ7Rb8znBWC by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-14T05:28:15.590594Z
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@allison @xj9 if x86 is complex, i imagine x86 on an oddball low power chip is no fun. making it impressive the OLPC team built a system around it. supposedly they were implementing LinuxBIOS (predecessor of coreboot) when Sun open sourced OFW. In a matter of weeks they integrated OFW and in months they had fully replaced LinuxBIOS. So not only is it based on Sun's implementation, the original author of OFW developed the XO-1 firmare. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/FORTH#History_on_the_XO
(DIR) Post #9x4E0D77Csqe87PjZg by allison@blob.cat
2020-07-14T05:42:12.210429Z
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@hushroom @xj9 >based on Sun's implementationI see. And yeah, I knew of Mitch Bradley's involvement with the XO lol (I'm something of an avowed Forth fan, so I do keep track of these things)
(DIR) Post #9x4HI5dQ3H9g0dk0nY by hushroom@social.sunshinegardens.org
2020-07-14T06:18:57.539273Z
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@allison @xj9 i think im becoming a Forth fan. was just browsing https://github.com/MitchBradley/openfirmware/ and came across "OpenMoko" as a build target maybe? searched it and now i'm thinking, forget pinephone or librem, lets revive the Neo 1973