Post 9wTqRLbMOI10En8FHM by reinboar@social.reinboar.xyz
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(DIR) Post #9wTjC2ETQIZA8tB7aK by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T15:07:22.614112Z
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Leftist doublethink blows my mind sometimes.Some nutjob here actually said “Republicans don’t care if cities burn. It reinforces their message that cities are dangerous and bad and need more fascism.”Republicans don’t care?? How much insane sauce has this person been taking? Those all Democrat cities! Leftists talking about fascism continues to be, and always will be, another example of a inability to be self aware.
(DIR) Post #9wTmA66ENGmdQ35g7U by Galena@gameliberty.club
2020-06-26T15:40:39Z
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@shebang This is your brain on the two party system. My Party is perfect, and responsible for every good thing in the country. Every single thing bad in the entire country is Other Party's fault. Even when My Party fails or makes a mistake, it's Other Party's fault, because Other Party was holding them back or getting in the way.
(DIR) Post #9wTnVHfeeCJnLIKHo0 by raintrees@noagendasocial.com
2020-06-26T15:55:40Z
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@shebang Projection, through and through.
(DIR) Post #9wToC37IdQbqeieIRk by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-06-26T15:58:46Z
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@shebang "Republicans have no compassion" is a talking point I've heard from the leftist media filtered through my wife (who was talking to friends on the phone). That conversation was about economy versus plague lock-down, a month or two ago.
(DIR) Post #9wToFCXG4aEujhIHTs by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:03:59.534232Z
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@progo Its funny how Republicans have no compassion on right wing people give double to charity. Leftist projection has no bounds.
(DIR) Post #9wToGVzlCwARNYFgeW by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:04:09.835421Z
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@progo on = but
(DIR) Post #9wToSoadtkR8WbMtvs by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-06-26T16:06:26.417728Z
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@progo @shebang Republicans actually do have no compassion. Usually because they lack cognitive function.
(DIR) Post #9wTpFa2UmnvjaOeKXo by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:15:15.662100Z
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@mewmew @progo Yup, their lack of compassion is why they give double than leftists. :blobderpshrug:
(DIR) Post #9wTpTKCuRiVIXQ4g40 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-06-26T16:17:43.509902Z
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@shebang @progo are you including churches in that statistic?
(DIR) Post #9wTpwo3uWdTHWrvIpM by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:23:04.641738Z
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@mewmew @progo It doesn’t, its talking about individuals.
(DIR) Post #9wTq81tLRoZRbeKgzI by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-06-26T16:25:04.910618Z
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@shebang @progo I'm asking, are you counting churches as "charities"
(DIR) Post #9wTqIsZmQHnztrM4Qa by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:27:04.018329Z
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@mewmew @progo I don’t believe churches count as charities themselves, no. Nor do I believe was this included as such in the statistics — churches are not recognized as charities legally speaking after all.
(DIR) Post #9wTqNxMC4j6aAwQAU4 by mewmew@blob.cat
2020-06-26T16:27:58.079483Z
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@shebang @progo hm.also, does this adjust for wealth?
(DIR) Post #9wTqRLbMOI10En8FHM by reinboar@social.reinboar.xyz
2020-06-26T16:28:24.826791Z
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@shebang @mewmew @progo Ah yes, donating to charity, the only 100% selfless act that one can commit. Aside from the tax write offs and the good PR of course. Not that I believe that all Republicans have no compassion, but that's a pretty weak point to try and prove that they do have compassion.
(DIR) Post #9wTqZwkg9PAVm2aiIq by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:30:05.165730Z
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@mewmew @progo I’m not sure if it adjusts for wealth. But if we are down to that kind of thing, unless the wealth differences between left v right are massive (they aren’t, especially since poorer, rural communities lean right) then we’re already at a competitive point.
(DIR) Post #9wTqq8lRG0Krf8fUsS by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:33:03.536404Z
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@reinboar @mewmew @progo Lets stop right there, fella.I don’t have to “prove” they have compassion because the claim that was made is that they don’t. Someone has to “prove” that rightwing people don’t. Not the other way around. Frankly, all that is happening here is you are trying to move the goal posts — charity isn’t really charity suddenly. Tax write offs and PR are corporate things for the most part. You don’t just get the money back on a write off, I doubt you even know what a write off is, honestly. The absolute best an individual can do is shift your tax bracket down a level if you are already close to that level.
(DIR) Post #9wTqxxxbJFF6TJ5YfY by wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw
2020-06-26T16:34:28.896005Z
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@reinboar @shebang @mewmew @progo I suspect it really comes down to how one defines “compassion” in terms of what actions are “compassionate”. Republicans tend to be against welfare state programs and tend to be against a “the state fixes everything” approach (definitely broad stroking here). Since frequently, but not always, the people who say they have no compassion believe in the opposite (welfare state programs are good/essential/the only way and the state fixes all) one can easily come to the conclusion that republicans have no compassion.
(DIR) Post #9wTrLEhtDD534Rpt1E by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-06-26T16:36:05Z
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@wolfie @mewmew @shebang @reinboar one of the problems with the "state fixes everything" approach is that the state's resources are NOT infinite. When the shit really hits the fan, small collectives must help themselves because the state has no more ability to command resources to help the problem.
(DIR) Post #9wTrLG3CDTiZEooPrs by wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw
2020-06-26T16:38:40.593013Z
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@progo @mewmew @shebang @reinboar Infinite is like “free”. It’s a null concept that doesn’t exist in reality. Of course, as already stated, “free” is a null concept as well and thus the idea that anything can be “free” is silly. Unfortunately, “free” is frequently an argument put forward for various programs. One could say it’s nitpicking to say that “free” doesn’t exist and one should say “at no cost to me”, but I think the underlying concept is extremely important lest one forget that someone somewhere at some point is paying for everything. Literally or figuratively. I think such an understanding would help people appreciate things and also understand the limitations of what can actually be done in the long run
(DIR) Post #9wTrPfqEGi9SNwqvhI by shebang@pleroma.freespeech.host
2020-06-26T16:39:28.924582Z
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@wolfie @reinboar @mewmew @progo More or less — it seems the r/w version is “I have some money to give, so here.” and the l/w version is “I voted for the state to redistribute some of my money (and everyone else’s money) so technically that’s compassion.”One is happening voluntarily, the other is coerced. One is genuine charity, the other is just socialist wealth redistribution with “feels” as the justification. Invariably its just “eat the rich” in the end anyway — even though the elites of the world can always just move their money around anyway.
(DIR) Post #9wTs7YPjFEiy5iNgf2 by wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw
2020-06-26T16:47:25.362899Z
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@shebang @mewmew @progo @reinboar While it may sound overly dramatic, I think people would be well served to remember that no matter how small or how innocent a law or program may seem, sitting right behind it is death.The power of the State is death. Sure, there are usually steps before that and all sorts of things come into play before it, but at its root, it’s death. This is easy to prove. Fail to pay your taxes. What happens? Someone shows up eventually to ask why so? Then they’ll ask you to do so. Then they’ll order you (via the courts). If you still refuse to comply, men with guns will show up and either attempt to force you or arrest you. Refuse that, they attempt to subdue you. Refuse that, they shoot you. Loop closed.Oh, but taxes are serious business. Surely that isn’t the case for a little law like jaywalking?! Nope. 100% the same. More steps, takes longer to get there maybe, but the result is the same.So when one says “We should create a program to do XYZ”, at the root of it one is speaking of forcing people at the point of a gun to do a thing. I’m not addressing the question of whether that thing is or isn’t a good thing. Just pointing out that all state power is force and that matters when one considers what is “compassion” when it comes from the state. To my way of thinking, compassion cannot come from force and can only come from choice. Thus, the state is only vaguely capable of such and only in those rare instances where everyone agrees to the action in question. Very rare instances. Otherwise, the state is forcing people (on one level or another) to comply and do as others want them to do. Individuals can be compassionate. Private organizations can be compassionate. The state can only sorta approach it
(DIR) Post #9wU3tfrtvp7Qbehrhw by al_kali@noagendasocial.com
2020-06-26T18:58:52Z
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@wolfie @mewmew @progo @shebang @reinboar Great write up! The State has a monopoly on violence.