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 (DIR) Post #9w6S6yyagYMtrfHPtY by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T09:37:36Z
       
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       @00dani @dankwraith why mad?
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6SL7BexFKHNs8Dsu by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T09:40:09Z
       
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       @dankwraith @brnrs what do you mean with "feverish white brain" and what is the answer to why the change is necessary?
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6SPRboy5UfscQts0 by padraic_padraic@mastodon.technology
       2020-06-15T07:19:54Z
       
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       @dankwraith oh good because I went through the exact same thought process about like master records. Get that shit out of here then!!
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6SPTf5KvIEFJyXEe by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T09:40:56Z
       
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       @padraic_padraic @dankwraith why?
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6c2I7V55xnKbqhgu by LogicalDash@cybre.space
       2020-06-15T11:28:46Z
       
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       @byllgrim @brnrs https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-00.html
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6gwvTWLWu1QGPTge by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:23:52Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @brnrs it would be kinda bizarre if a respectable organization used "pimp" and "ho".
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6iM9A0hYdR3osG5w by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:39:33Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @brnrs > the ubiquitous word “robot” is the Czech word for “slave”Interesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6iepJyggfh24RZOy by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:42:59Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @brnrs ugh... The article is so needlessly long-winded. And it presents claims without backing it up.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6j4crbcwfVvPTVJY by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-15T11:44:16Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @byllgrimHmm, interesting document. I'll have to read into it.To be clear, it's not that I'm opposed to the change (master -> main, trunk, whatever). I guess I'm used to master, and I'd be used to the replacement in a few days/weeks if it became commonplace. Maybe I'm lacking some specific cultural context or empathy, because I don't understand how master or slave are oppressive and don't see the value in doing anything about them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6j4d1X22bmQC7Qmm by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-15T11:48:14Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @byllgrim...I do understand the perspective that other terms would be clearer/more accurate, though.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6j4ebj8x9hKk3qqG by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-15T11:51:00Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @byllgrimTo clarify, I mean I don't understand master/slave as terms, not as phenomena, being oppressive.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6j4eqGGumW3orSUq by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-15T12:34:52Z
       
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       @LogicalDash @byllgrimhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/236752849_Broken_Metaphor_The_Master-Slave_Analogy_in_Technical_LiteratureThis seems to be the reference for that IETF draft on the subject of master/slave. I'll read it, hope it's convincing.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6j4f0Xeh0MZhffWK by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:47:34Z
       
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       @brnrs @LogicalDash I am frustrated that with so many vocal adherents it is still difficult to get a clear cut explanation of the reasoning.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6jnZJbfOSVx20Cki by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:55:47Z
       
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       @dankwraith I have a proposition for everyne n favor of changing the terminology. Write a small paragraph explaining why you are in favor, then I complain, and you revise until we both agree
       
 (DIR) Post #9w6jv55Xvu6KWN0YXA by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T12:57:09Z
       
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       @dankwraith if I was advocating something, I'd totally be willing to do this
       
 (DIR) Post #9w7A4P81OMUi5XGvLM by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-15T17:50:09Z
       
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       @byllgrim To me it seems like it boils down to 1. It makes some people uncomfortable2. Some people empathize with the people from #13. Some people think it's inaccurateI see nothing wrong with any of these three points, although I can't really empathize with #1.
       
 (DIR) Post #9w7AEW8OCOLCiFGZSy by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
       2020-06-15T17:51:59Z
       
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       @dankwraith I propose lead/follow for digital buses
       
 (DIR) Post #9w9QPPRLPopaidGfYm by brnrs@fosstodon.org
       2020-06-16T20:02:38Z
       
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       @byllgrim @LogicalDash I'm not sure that's accurate, more like it derives from a czech word for serfdom that derives from a proto-slavik word for slavery. Then again, serfdom doesn't differ that much from slavery. In Polish, which is quite similar, there's "robota" which means "work", and "robotnik" which means (physical/blue collar) worker. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/robota#Czech