Post 9vcP13J7Py33yraT2W by jankoekepan@mastodon.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #9vcOT1AIsNGvUVEdMG by fribbledom@mastodon.social
       2020-05-31T21:34:56Z
       
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       Trump: "The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization."🤦I give up. What a shitshow.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcObiwpybMJb75VL6 by jordan31@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-31T21:37:00Z
       
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       @fribbledom what's wrong with that?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcOgWqQP7IPVWNaiW by jordan31@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-31T21:37:53Z
       
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       @fribbledom also I thought they happened a couple years ago? Or maybe that was another movement/organization?
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcOs71EFWYqswxMEy by fribbledom@mastodon.social
       2020-05-31T21:39:58Z
       
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       @jordan31 I'm very much against fascism and I had no idea I'm a terrorist. That's what's wrong. 🤮
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcP13J7Py33yraT2W by jankoekepan@mastodon.xyz
       2020-05-31T21:41:12Z
       
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       @jordan31 @fribbledom As far as I can tell, antifa isn't an organisation so much as a collection of people who use excuses to engage their pent-up energies in violent dickheading.Maybe some of them are genuinely concerned about the rise of fascism, but I've yet to meet one who could even accurately describe fascism beyond being stuff they don't like.But it's probably similar in spirit to declaring the TEA parts (whatever that means) as a hate organisation.Just as stupid.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcPRuL8rlyrzIL5qy by jordan31@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-31T21:46:27Z
       
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       @fribbledom oh you are part of that "group"? I'm against fascism but I'm def not aligned with antifa.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcPlLnV0LeaeBsFqi by fribbledom@mastodon.social
       2020-05-31T21:49:56Z
       
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       @jordan31 There's no such "group", and no, I'm not a member of anything apart from the local hackerspace.Which is why this entire thing is absolutely pointless and just adding fuel to the fire 😒
       
 (DIR) Post #9vcR5l5YmWmMpgcJo8 by jordan31@fosstodon.org
       2020-05-31T22:04:51Z
       
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       @fribbledom ah I understand you. Think I breezed through the posts without reading clearly.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdGPMpPmoIx2oAmC8 by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T07:39:50Z
       
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       @fribbledom @jordan31
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdc4VPAturYYTMBGK by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T11:42:30Z
       
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       @mister_monster @fribbledom @jordan31 This picture is just stupid. Fascism is obviously a bad thing, being against fascism is the duty of everyone in a democratic society and banning it is actually fascism or at least a forerunner.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdr2UJVUDcRu4CYmu by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:30:17Z
       
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       @gcrkrauseHow is it stupid? I am against fascism. Who isn't? That's like being against murder. I think the image applies perfectly to said organization. Can you be against fascism without supporting a specific organization? Not according to said organization. @fribbledom @jordan31
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdrBxRGZLbwq7LXsW by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:31:59Z
       
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       @mister_monster @fribbledom @jordan31 its stupid because its imply someone would say something like this, which is obviously not true, trying to delegitimate any antifascist fight just because you may not agree with their instruments.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsLR2Lzd6HCHmEMa by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:34:25Z
       
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       @mister_monster and please remember, there is no organization. there are just people behind an idea. if you want forbid the idea of antifascism, you are actually a fascist.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsLRK4vjHK5G4NzU by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:44:54Z
       
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       @gcrkrause well if there's no organization then there's nothing to worry about is there.I don't believe in forbidding any ideas at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsTMSYtYo9Jkoasi by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:46:20Z
       
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       @mister_monster there is, because the US president stated in public he is against antifascism, which means he is pro fascism. something like this from a leader of one of the most powerful states these days could be considered quite dangerous.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsXFdYChnPJcoGy8 by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:47:03Z
       
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       @mister_monster and everything just because some people demonstrate against racism... thats just insane
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsam4M4slilt1l0y by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:47:41Z
       
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       @mister_monster its like stopping giving kids food for months just because they were too loud. its highly inappropriate.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdshw1BUE37ecxUiO by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:48:59Z
       
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       @gcrkrauseThey delegitimize themselves with their tactics and clear authoritarian preferences.And yes, people do say things like this, all the time. See the post I responded to with that image for an example. @fribbledom @jordan31
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsoY1N6ZoXFwCQvg by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:50:11Z
       
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       @gcrkrause I don't want to try to defend the president, but he simply stated that an organization is a criminal organization. If being against an organization makes you a fascist you prove my point. If an organization doesn't exist then there's nothing to worry about.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdsoeBsARmMOF9u88 by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:50:11Z
       
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       @mister_monster jeah you can try to cuddly nazis down, good luck and happy crying because some cars burn.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdstOyGBHAqdS3hMu by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:51:03Z
       
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       @mister_monster as I already said, there is no organization. judge people for what they did, but stop this stupid "antifa is criminal" stuff
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdt1gXmjFPFSBcoSm by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:52:33Z
       
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       @gcrkrause I've never seen a Nazi burn a city block in my lifetime, just saying. In fact, I doubt I've ever seen a Nazi in my life. If so they his their identity pretty well. If you want to fight Nazis, actual Nazis, try not burning black neighborhoods next time.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdtERR4DF1yMPZ7JI by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T14:54:51Z
       
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       @mister_monster wtf do you have any evidence I burnt anything? thats insulting. since this gets toxic now, i end this here. have a good life.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdtO9taHTXWrBXOL2 by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:56:37Z
       
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       @gcrkrause I'm not talking specifically about you man, I know you're nowhere near the US, using "you" in English is a figure of speech, like using you as an example for "everybody". I don't actually think you torched buildings.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdtX9sTiUD1PLJO5I by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T14:58:15Z
       
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       @gcrkrause I'm not talking specifically about you man, I know you're nowhere near the US, using "you" in English is a figure of speech, like using you as an example for "anybody". I don't actually think you torched buildings.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdtxEMTfUP8qLmACW by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T15:02:56Z
       
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       @mister_monster anyway, here is a nazi city bluck burn down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombingcheck your privileges
       
 (DIR) Post #9vduViVy4AMGCuevp2 by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T15:09:11Z
       
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       @gcrkrause dude there's no reason to get angry. We are still friends (on the internet anyway). We just have a disagreement about something. It should happen all the time between people who talk about things.That 1985 Philadelphia bombing is bad, no doubt. But I'd make some points: 1) it was 35 years ago 2) every major city in the US is currently experiencing social unrest, as opposed to one example in one city, 3) MOVE was a left wing organization.
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdudiIIlm8nqA51No by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T15:10:36Z
       
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       @mister_monster yes, move was. and nazi combs bombed a city block, while you tell me it does not happen. should show you you are blind on the right eye. i am not making friends with non antifascists, sorry dude
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdvEw8WGdgnUBFnZA by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2020-06-01T15:17:22Z
       
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       @mister_monster yes, move was. and nazi cops bombed a city block, while you tell me it does not happen. should show you you are blind on the right eye. i am not making friends with non antifascists, sorry dude
       
 (DIR) Post #9vdvQ5AX1csYgWVf8a by mister_monster@social.privacytools.io
       2020-06-01T15:19:22Z
       
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       @gcrkrause lol you prove my point, I've already said once I'm opposed to fascism, but it is not enough. I must join the cult or be excommunicated. Alright dude, you have a nice life too.