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(DIR) Post #9vUfosx5JFJtdEynr6 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T04:12:11Z
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This is my checklist of online apps and services I am currently usingchecked = freedomunchecked = I want a better alternative[x] microblogging (Mastodon)[x] Email (Protonmail)[x] Cloud storage (Keybase)[x] Search engine (DuckDuckGo)[x] Browser (Firefox with Tor proxy)[x] Browser mobile (Brave)[x] Password manager (pass)[ ] Bulletin board (Reddit)[ ] Code hosting (Github)[ ] Instant messaging (Whatsapp)[ ] web hosting (Vultr)how I can improve this towards more freedom and privacy?
(DIR) Post #9vUgYTeNiF74TsyHgm by DesCoutinho@mastodon.social
2020-05-28T04:20:23Z
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@saadnpq I was told to switch to swtich from Whatsapp/Facebook to Signal though some chaps prefer I think its called riot
(DIR) Post #9vUhARCRGxT1su0Cx6 by alcinnz@floss.social
2020-05-28T04:27:16Z
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@saadnpq I've heard of CodeBerg & Source Hut (https://sr.ht/) as alternatives to GitHub.
(DIR) Post #9vUhQ7E9IUNeZgHIZ6 by ursus_hirsutus@todon.nl
2020-05-28T04:30:03Z
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@saadnpq Tildes, hubski, lobsters for Reddit alternatives
(DIR) Post #9vUhQclC3gEUN8ycsK by esureL@chaos.social
2020-05-28T04:30:11Z
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@saadnpq Wasn't keybase recently acquired by a big company?Anyhow, for code: Did you have a look at gitlab or Codeberg?Instant messaging: For me, the easy solution is Threema as it works well and I could easily bring my peer group to it. If you don't mind a challenge or have tech-savvy peers, Matrix- or XMPP-based messengers could work, as the technology is decentralized. :)I've also seen (prototypes of) reddit alternatives floating around, but I haven't looked into it further.
(DIR) Post #9vUhjDAXQj0KVLh8Jk by jbauer@social.paritybit.ca
2020-05-28T04:33:32Z
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@saadnpq Matrix/Riot is a great choice for instant messaging.https://matrix.org/Perhaps you could replace your bulletin board by subscribing to many sources using RSS? I'm not sure if I'm understanding what bulletin board means in this context though...
(DIR) Post #9vUikjlvnWo1rhTbKi by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-28T04:45:01.153727Z
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@alcinnz @saadnpq Sourcehut is okay. I use it to publish some FOSS on.Drew is kind of rough to get along with though.
(DIR) Post #9vUj3oMewoVbbtkcgS by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T04:48:29Z
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@jbauer @esureL @DesCoutinho believe it or not, I am maintaining a matrix client https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/matrixclibut I am sick of trying to convince people to use riot without being too pushy. for some people, it's way harder than Whatsapp (my mom for example). so I found my self using Whatsapp anyway. maybe I will try again, I really like it.
(DIR) Post #9vUkotUzm8dJ6CfH7I by fluke@octodon.social
2020-05-28T05:08:11Z
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@saadnpq Out of curiosity, why are you looking for an alternative to Vultr? I’m using them for an OpenBSD server and it’s been really simple and easy to work with.
(DIR) Post #9vUlQpOxSRJxOZvfFI by esureL@chaos.social
2020-05-28T05:15:02Z
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@saadnpq Sadly, I've had the same problems with Matrix clients. That's why I suggested Threema. For basic users, it's almost as easy as to use any messenger app. Only the account creation has a few more steps, but the guided procedure makes them pretty easy. :)
(DIR) Post #9vUlhFbvmQZlJbpOng by jbauer@social.paritybit.ca
2020-05-28T05:18:00Z
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@saadnpq Yeah, I definitely understand that. I have a hard time convincing some friends to use Riot and, when I try, it feels pushy.I've had good success getting people to use Signal though. It's by no means a perfect solution (centrally hosted, have to give them your phone number), but it's better than Whatsapp.
(DIR) Post #9vUmFHZ31VzjDghtFQ by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T05:24:11Z
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@esureL never heard of Threema or Codeberg, Thank you. I used to mirror my repositories to Gitlab but that was a while ago. I have some problems with it, but I think there is no perfect solution yet when it comes to code hosting. I am waiting for the first service to implement any kind of federation in merge requests.
(DIR) Post #9vUmwYHQkZ5tW06CmW by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T05:32:00Z
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@jbauer yeah probably I should go for Signal. despite being centralized, from what I read I think we can trust it
(DIR) Post #9vUn01R6nxaKoHHTDU by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T05:32:38Z
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@esureL will try it, thanks.
(DIR) Post #9vUngijOE40dFVBwhs by konrad@fosstodon.org
2020-05-28T05:40:16Z
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@saadnpq I use codeberg here for code hosting, like https://codeberg.org/diva.exchange - really great for #foss and the guys there are cool. Signal/riot is yet another centralized app... pointless, IMHO. 🤔True private and fully distributed messaging apps will come - we're also working on one. ⚒️🌈
(DIR) Post #9vUnp9FLWfjbnm9pzM by johanv@fosstodon.org
2020-05-28T05:41:50Z
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@saadnpq you can use GitLab or SourceHut (https://sourcehut.org/) for code. I personally set up 3 separate git remotes in all my repos for GitHub, GitLab, and SourceHut so I can push to all 3. (This is admittedly a bit excessive, so maybe just pick one of the 2 to back up your github projects to)
(DIR) Post #9vUoU3EInjkL0vAoRk by doenietzomoeilijk@mastodon.nl
2020-05-28T05:49:13Z
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@saadnpq does freedom also include self-hosted, or is that not a hard requirement?* As for Reddit, there's Lemmy which is a (soon federated) alternative.* IM would see WhatsApp replaced with Signal or Telegram (I find the latter to be delightfully functional, moreso than Signal, but that's my n=1). In practice, you're not going to get rid of WhatsApp completely, though, the network effect is very strong, unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #9vUoa2U4UDnmRGP928 by DesCoutinho@mastodon.social
2020-05-28T05:50:19Z
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@saadnpq Sadly I find signal harder to use the buttons were easier on whatsapp. Some people feel safer with the gov not nosing around in their privates. I tend to go with I'd rather the Gov did know what we are doing at every time and if they really are interested in how big my paunche is on a given day or how my diarrhoea looks from time to time let them hopefully they work out they are wasting their time. but others prefer not to reveal their nakedness. I switched when asked @jbauer @esureL
(DIR) Post #9vUprFJw76j17yQtYO by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:04:38Z
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@fluke @doenietzomoeilijk I love how simple Vultr's UI is. but I don't think I can trust that they are not tracking my visitors. or what do you think? I don't have a strong opinion against them though.
(DIR) Post #9vUqEJi9xHmZPClQqO by doenietzomoeilijk@mastodon.nl
2020-05-28T05:49:38Z
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@saadnpq * Code hosting depends on how much code, and whether you want others to participate easily, or at all. I've seen src.ht and codeberg mentioned, but you could also slap your own gitea instance on a VM somewhere. There's also GitLab which needs more resources.* What about Vultr makes you want to leave, and what services are you using?
(DIR) Post #9vUqEJy6zyXiCgEAi0 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:08:48Z
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@doenietzomoeilijk my problem with self-hosting a Gitlab or Gitea instance is that it makes code collaboration very hard(it may be suitable for companies). I am waiting for a federation protocol to adopted soon.
(DIR) Post #9vUqltuCPIV7DSPRfE by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:14:54Z
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@doenietzomoeilijk Lemmy looks very promising. Thank you, never heard about it.
(DIR) Post #9vUrcyVA36vYop0Q2i by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:24:29Z
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@johanv I think that's what I will do. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #9vUsDckHtt0g3fYa3M by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:31:06Z
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@konrad I think I will go Codeberg, I like it more than Sourcehut. looking forward to your app, messaging apps is an area that needs more work. Thank you.
(DIR) Post #9vUsbXjAD2HdRdR7h2 by Marc@fosstodon.org
2020-05-28T04:23:05Z
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@DesCoutinhoGitlab perhaps? Anyone else have alternatives?@saadnpq
(DIR) Post #9vUsbY6umjHYdIY5iK by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:35:25Z
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@Marc @DesCoutinho replies mentioned Codeberg and Sourcehut. looking into both, I like Codeberg more.
(DIR) Post #9vUskBReQMkywXMhoO by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T06:36:59Z
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@ursus_hirsutus @fluke what do you think of lemmy?
(DIR) Post #9vUugy7jhBewfSe30K by mray@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-28T06:58:48Z
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@saadnpq for Instant Messaging: maybe https://delta.chat/ - your protonmail account should work fine. Also you can "reach" anybody with a mail account. The network effect sucks, but it is a good alternative to Signal in terms of centralization.For code hosting I'd go to Codeberg I think. #Codeberg #deltachat
(DIR) Post #9vUvH7VeHFLmCa4HuC by doenietzomoeilijk@mastodon.nl
2020-05-28T07:05:19Z
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@saadnpq no worries! Also, you could always take a peek at the Awesome Selfhosted list at https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted .
(DIR) Post #9vUw2vMElCykPiSck4 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T07:13:58Z
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@mray Protonmail, unfortunately, will not work as it uses encryption, but it's a very cool idea. Just learned about Codeberg and it's awsome.
(DIR) Post #9vUwSYwKjR0aPoZO76 by doenietzomoeilijk@mastodon.nl
2020-05-28T07:18:36Z
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@saadnpq yeah, let's hope @forgefed makes some dents in that. At least Gitea would be interested in adding support, if I read that correctly a while ago.
(DIR) Post #9vUwXqK3WzHXm5BRzM by mray@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-28T07:19:35Z
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@saadnpq damn! you're right https://delta.chat/ – I just assumed since most are working. Using a dedicated account somewhere else is trivial though... 😏
(DIR) Post #9vUwZvw7d5NflUzAjQ by mray@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-28T07:19:58Z
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@saadnpq damn! you're right https://providers.delta.chat/ – I just assumed since most are working. Using a dedicated account somewhere else is trivial though... 😏
(DIR) Post #9vUxN70pEpo0J1dTs0 by konrad@fosstodon.org
2020-05-28T07:28:51Z
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@saadnpq Cool.You're also always very welcome in our open source project - like as a UI/UX contributor or communicator in your mother tongue or whatever you feel is right for you... we're always here to help. Our Chat channel is still on telegram (English and German): https://t.me/diva_exchange_chat_deKeep up your great work (I like your website). 👍
(DIR) Post #9vUxOa0cukiWWlF6h6 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T07:29:08Z
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@mray This encryption thing (despite being great for privacy) is annoying. I can't even use any email client without a bridge. do you have any suggestions for a good "standard" email provider?
(DIR) Post #9vUxnUnFRZ1lafrjqC by mray@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-28T07:33:36Z
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@saadnpq in Germany I know of privacy aware people using https://posteo.de/en for example...
(DIR) Post #9vUxpyWDtcugMT5JgW by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T07:34:05Z
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@konrad Thank you! definitely will consider joining.
(DIR) Post #9vUyNmnjy4KdrlOtzE by ursus_hirsutus@todon.nl
2020-05-28T07:40:10Z
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@saadnpq @fluke I've yet to try it, but it looks promising!
(DIR) Post #9vUzjjTr5w95tN817w by mray@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-28T07:39:55Z
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@saadnpq they are not cost free I just noticed... (1€ / month)
(DIR) Post #9vUzjjlw0ibinRaSJ6 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-28T07:55:19Z
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@mray yeah it's almost impossible to find a cost-free privacy-focused mail provider, otherwise, they make money from selling users data.
(DIR) Post #9vV94I15Ie3INmY2vQ by tobtobxx@fosstodon.org
2020-05-28T09:39:52Z
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@saadnpq @Marc @DesCoutinho I am currently migrating to #codeberg. The only feature I really miss is GitHub Actions. I'll need to take a look at Jenkis et al.
(DIR) Post #9vVHfS39l30RqfkSTg by NerdRat@mastodon.technology
2020-05-28T11:16:07Z
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@saadnpq Bulletin board: https://news.ycombinator.com/Code hosting:https://notabug.org/orhttps://gitea.com/ (self hosted)Instant messangerhttps://wire.com/en/orhttps://jami.net/#I also recomend https://matrix.org/ and the https://about.riot.im/ client.
(DIR) Post #9vW0RwN0j8eTlgxziy by fluke@octodon.social
2020-05-28T19:38:01Z
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@saadnpq Like most hosting providers in the US, they are required by law to cooperate with legal requests to monitor and provide information about their customers. If you’re hosting in the US you’re probably never going to get around this.
(DIR) Post #9vWKovykLXIWIXrJVA by alcinnz@floss.social
2020-05-28T04:46:47Z
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@icedquinn @saadnpq That he is. But he's also an excellent developer and writer.
(DIR) Post #9vWKoyl20z6qusSu2a by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-28T23:26:18.408492Z
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@alcinnz @saadnpq i take it back. fuck drew.
(DIR) Post #9vWLejOIOQeeJdVYci by alcinnz@floss.social
2020-05-28T23:34:40Z
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@icedquinn @saadnpq Mind expanding?
(DIR) Post #9vWLejZdiFjEsoocIy by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-28T23:35:40.060958Z
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@alcinnz @saadnpq he just started a thread where everyone who doesn't use a license approved by his list is banned.so basically, he's twitter now (cf. the "obey the fact checkers or be banned" variety.)
(DIR) Post #9vWMOcdDr82mfnN9NI by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-28T23:42:55Z
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@alcinnz @icedquinn @saadnpq how about you chill tf out icedquinn, read the actual thread where I (1) was asking for feedback, not declaring a law; (2) not using "my" list of licenses, but licenses approved by three separate, respected independent organizations; and (3) asked you to explain why you were opposed, as perhaps that's the kind of feedback I was looking for in the first place, and instead of answering and maybe making your case you flipped the freaking table over
(DIR) Post #9vWN14oJXHRn4Ytfe4 by alcinnz@floss.social
2020-05-28T23:49:37Z
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@icedquinn If he's discussing which licenses would be allowed on SourceHut, I can see valid reasons for doing so. If the code can't be hosted elsewhere, we've got a BIG problem!Though to be clear I'm not anti "ethical" licenses, just highly skeptical.
(DIR) Post #9vWN1562TNcpxXBpGy by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-28T23:50:54.535395Z
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@alcinnz I don't believe you have any right to demand people *paying* you to host code make it available to others under terms you choose. :blobcatancap:
(DIR) Post #9vWNYboBs3eayDpQae by jeff@pl.i2p.rocks
2020-05-28T23:56:58.846758Z
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@saadnpq code hosting: cgit https://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
(DIR) Post #9vWORcka4SWTonND1s by alcinnz@floss.social
2020-05-29T00:01:00Z
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@icedquinn I've got a few different thoughts here.I think if he's listing projects on his service he *should* be applying his morality to it, as per anyone linking to stuff online.And I do think, for example, Google, Microsoft, & Amazon should drop oil companies as customers to their clouds. Though if it's mostly just static hosting I wouldn't see the need to police heavily at all.That said you have all right to be upset over this, and stop paying.
(DIR) Post #9vWORdUJKR6Q6cljJA by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-29T00:06:54.583258Z
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@alcinnz mixing business with politics is almost always a bad idea. it's literally why the internet is garbage in 2016-2020.i like to give small tech a chance, because we need it, but when the little despots start imitating the bigger despots i set them on fire with no remorse or appeal. :blobcatshrug:
(DIR) Post #9vWOpu9531MgibPWfA by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-29T00:11:18.342263Z
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@sir @alcinnz @saadnpq I did explain why I was opposed. You literally mocked it.I'm no longer one of your customers, thanks. Good luck with the changes.
(DIR) Post #9vWQGKAj0JzMvCLFJo by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-29T00:26:14Z
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@icedquinn @alcinnz @saadnpq I said "what code do you have there now which would be impacted by such a policy"Which is... mocking you? What? Give me a break.
(DIR) Post #9vWfepLuE73ht7iILo by tromino@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T03:19:47Z
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@saadnpq @doenietzomoeilijk from what I've heard, SourceHut allows you to do a lot of things with just an email address (no account needed), which would help with the ease of contribution thing
(DIR) Post #9vXemfu019raPcIm4O by tychi@mastodon.social
2020-05-29T14:44:38Z
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@saadnpq for GitHub alternative, you can do git-ssbhttps://git.scuttlebot.io/%25n92DiQh7ietE%2BR%2BX%2FI403LQoyf2DtR3WQfCkDKlheQU%3D.sha256That's probably what I'm going to start using
(DIR) Post #9vXhKR37vQwvoFTzvs by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T15:13:12Z
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@tychi Thanks. never heard of it. It needs a cup of coffee to see what is this all about.
(DIR) Post #9vXo1wyxfuwn1ZfR6O by tychi@mastodon.social
2020-05-29T16:28:19Z
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@saadnpq I still need to get into it more myself. The social networking aspect of SSB is interesting to me too, with git being just one applications on top of it.The video on the homepage is when I got excited about the implications of the technology: https://scuttlebutt.nz/
(DIR) Post #9vXqsFIN24t4muoGoq by selectallfromdual@fosstodon.org
2020-05-29T17:00:08Z
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@saadnpq Instant messaging > TOX
(DIR) Post #9vXrwre8UCGsqOky8G by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T17:12:11Z
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@tychi I have looked into it... and I think I will remember you forever for introducing me to scuttlebutt
(DIR) Post #9vXsTqSpu1KsjYCJw8 by tychi@mastodon.social
2020-05-29T17:18:07Z
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@saadnpq let me know if you join find a good pub! i got distracted and never went back to really immerse myself and make friends.
(DIR) Post #9vXtYY0q24TkuQuMW8 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T17:30:13Z
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@tychi I will. I have very little to do these days and I am dedicating it to exploring new technologies. let's see how this one will go.
(DIR) Post #9vXukET8cXLFj1HSpE by tychi@mastodon.social
2020-05-29T17:43:33Z
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@saadnpq Thanks for the list by the way. I've been using a catch-all custom domain for email for years going to gmail. i'm gonna pull the plug and move it to proton mail today.
(DIR) Post #9vXvT0qs5zmEWVjcDw by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T17:51:39Z
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@tychi you will not regret it, but keep in mind that all mail is encrypted, so if you want to use a client beside their web or mobile client you will need a bridge, and the bridge is available only for premium account as the custom domain.
(DIR) Post #9vXwxeDSP9EXFdTFFw by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T18:08:23Z
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@tychi I joined this pup https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Pub it looks pretty empty though. I don't know if it is the pup or the scuttleverse.
(DIR) Post #9vXya2OJ4S6VBePnH6 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T18:26:31Z
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@tychi I firsly joined this pub https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Pub after that I thought I can join more than one, so I joined Picopub https://ssb-pub.picodevelopment.nl/ now it looks like I am only on Pico (I don't understand the UI yet maybe I am on both). It's way bigger and better though.
(DIR) Post #9vXzxt6dLNnhII5LFI by tychi@mastodon.social
2020-05-29T18:42:02Z
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@saadnpq nice! i'll join those later too.You should be able to join multiple and when you're connected to a pub, you should be able to see others that are connected at the same time as you.If you follow them, the pub will facilitate downloading their posts and their friends posts, then you can view stuff even offline.If you make friends in person, the "scuttlebot" inside your app can do the same thing over local networks. Connections grow organically that way.
(DIR) Post #9vY16rM1KIVmQB7l6O by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-05-29T18:54:52Z
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@tychi yeah got it. the pub is like a mutual friend that is always online and publically available on the internet. It's different from the usual idea of a server that we are used to. brilliant
(DIR) Post #9vjGLqJoQVUKFHaEym by adbenitez@mastodon.social
2020-06-04T05:07:25Z
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@saadnpq @mray what about #disroot, #riseup or #systemli I use them, they are free (you need invitation for the last two) but anyway since the email will be encrypted with #deltachat, the message's content will be safe so any provider will do if you don't care about "who wrote to whom" leaked
(DIR) Post #9vjHWOELIXkIGrcNvs by brad@weeaboo.space
2020-06-04T05:20:35.565641Z
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@konrad @saadnpq Neither Riot (client) nor Matrix (protocol) are centralized. You can locally host your own version of Riot for you and your users to use, or use one of the many public ones, and there are other Matrix clients[0] as well. Matrix is decentralized and federated at its core. You can communicate with people on other servers[1] as well as host your own server[2][3]. They've even started supporting P2P[4] so that you won't need to rely on any home server.Many people use riot.im on matrix.org, but this is completely optional, a sort of pseudo-centralization similar to too many people registering on mastodon.social instead of other smaller instances. Encourage people to sign up on non-flagship homeservers. Maybe host your own for you and your friends if you're able. As P2P support improves you can even have people register this way by default and not have to worry about homeservers.If you happened to be referring to identity servers when bringing up centralization, these are entirely optional. You don't need to supply an email or phone number when registering, and if you don't do so, you aren't even really interacting with an identity server. They're basically just for finding people you know by their phone number/email. Not essential.[0] https://matrix.org/clients/[1] https://www.hello-matrix.net/public_servers.php[2] https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/[3] https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/[4] https://matrix.org/blog/2020/06/02/introducing-p-2-p-matrix
(DIR) Post #9vjHhwxoV5YLBEOoDI by brad@weeaboo.space
2020-06-04T05:22:41.683101Z
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@saadnpq @mray I believe if you are a paid Protonmail member and enable the IMAP support it would work.(I recommend just not using Protonmail, though, and I say this as someone who fell for the meme as well and has an account there that mostly collects dust these days)Protonmail's encryption only works to other Protonmail addresses anyway, it's really nothing special and doesn't justify them trying to lock you in to their ecosystem by pay-walling IMAP support so you can't easily use traditional email clients.
(DIR) Post #9vjHo9As0yAAmvSesS by brad@weeaboo.space
2020-06-04T05:23:48.147211Z
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@saadnpq @doenietzomoeilijk if you use sourcehut (sr.ht) people can collaborate via email without registering an account. I've personally used this to file issues and it works quite well.
(DIR) Post #9vjONyB8yNHopt3PF2 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-06-04T06:37:29Z
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@brad @mray My problem is that my GPG key is associated my this email and every time I mess with GPG I do something wrong (the word itself now gives me anxiety). plus this email is everywhere now. I think the wisest thing is to use custom domain email so you can move easily at any time
(DIR) Post #9vjP77Z0vUUsySkUXw by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-06-04T06:45:40Z
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@brad @konrad I don't know who said Matrix is centralized I totally agree. didn't know about the P2P support, awesome!
(DIR) Post #9vjPshILtc0XP3dq8e by brad@weeaboo.space
2020-06-04T06:54:16.699748Z
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@saadnpq @mray I don't blame you, GPG can be a pain to deal with. I used to have a key, maybe two keys even, but I never used them much and at this point I'd have to relearn everything and probably generate a new key.
(DIR) Post #9vjQYeKPJi7WMdbhx2 by saadnpq@mstdn.io
2020-06-04T07:01:50Z
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@brad @konrad didn't hear of the P2P support, awesome!
(DIR) Post #9vjRECnY3y2p8z3M0m by cy@verge.info.tm
2020-06-04T07:08:11.633970Z
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@brad @konrad @saadnpq I’ve heard of those, but never really looked into them. Thanks for pointing them out! Though “federated at its core” sounds a lot like “exactly like Mastodon” to me. But I’ll take a look.
(DIR) Post #9vjREEDSn6MtXeBZ2m by brad@weeaboo.space
2020-06-04T07:09:20.646743Z
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@cy @konrad @saadnpq xmpp and email are probably better comparisons, but yeah, read up on it to get the best idea