Post 9uiPUGuKBtyQ1DvdSq by briana@social.librem.one
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(DIR) Post #9uiP0YsWoK3J4EvBvk by PINE64@fosstodon.org
2020-05-04T21:17:12Z
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Per popular request we're exploring alternative payment options. Let's assume we keep Paypal and ONLY add #bitcoin as an option, will you use Bitcoin for future purchases?
(DIR) Post #9uiPUGuKBtyQ1DvdSq by briana@social.librem.one
2020-05-04T21:22:26Z
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@PINE64 I don't see a point. 99.9% of people don't use bitcoin. Credit/debit cards might make more sense, as almost everyone has one, and you can always use a service like privacy.com to hide your transaction from your bank if your that worried about privacy.
(DIR) Post #9uiPcNFGVl0HzXaRnc by yarmo@fosstodon.org
2020-05-04T21:23:58Z
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@PINE64 Bitcoin Cash is a nice solution. Though I won't need to conceal my identity when purchasing on your website, so for me, in this scenario, any crypto is overkill
(DIR) Post #9uiPuuLMBvalrAH2Jc by gwoavqiavsk@mastodon.social
2020-05-04T21:27:19Z
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@PINE64 Stellar (XLM) please :)
(DIR) Post #9uiQ4gnfOsJOkSBCZk by Fallstar@mastodon.xyz
2020-05-04T21:29:08Z
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@PINE64Bitcoin is an environmental disaster. Maybe adding another payment method might help some people, but I don't think Bitcoin should be the solution.
(DIR) Post #9uiQMOLyisZmkXfarI by JayVii_de@mastodon.social
2020-05-04T21:32:26Z
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@PINE64 payment by creditcard is available via paypal but only if you have a paypal account. If you don't, you are out of luck, so a different solution for credit card payment would be nice
(DIR) Post #9uiR8168UPWaWXy8e0 by moonspark@nulled.red
2020-05-04T21:40:56Z
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@PINE64 Bitcoin is as inaccessible here as Paypal. Please use Amazon Payments or, even better, Shopify.
(DIR) Post #9uiREKEqEroVcm36zw by thebitstick@social.librem.one
2020-05-04T21:42:34Z
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@PINE64 I'm 12
(DIR) Post #9uiRVPMaRCFSRSokb2 by Tessera@mastodon.social
2020-05-04T21:45:03Z
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@PINE64 Monero.
(DIR) Post #9uiRrUDN55JRrK2DnU by kemonine@social.holdmybeer.solutions
2020-05-04T21:49:38.779446Z
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@PINE64 I'd rather have one of those mini loan providers as an option.I'd prefer a mini loan to bitcoin as any kind of bitcoin is going to be $$$ and a tax nightmare in the USA
(DIR) Post #9uiUEOR6vm7KVSVnii by Jojonintendo@mamot.fr
2020-05-04T22:15:25Z
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@PINE64 Like others have said, debit card would be a sensible option. Most PayPal users have one, but not necessarily the other way around.
(DIR) Post #9uiV2GolWwFdMDMLrs by skobkin@lor.sh
2020-05-04T22:24:45Z
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@PINE64 I'd paid for my order in XLM (Stellar) or PayPal.
(DIR) Post #9uiVJdP8o4gkKceax6 by vancha@fosstodon.org
2020-05-04T22:27:45Z
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@PINE64 cryptocurrency has too high of an entrance barrier, as long as there is no standardized safe way of setting it up, it won't be an option for the majority of people. I'm pretty tech savvy, but it has been too deep a dive to be sure enough of what I'm doing to get into it, which makes it not an option for me. Preferably a more standard form of transaction please :)
(DIR) Post #9uiXQn57QSZ4HPpQkS by geekgonecrazy@fosstodon.org
2020-05-04T22:52:01Z
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@yarmo @PINE64 I think the problem is its PayPal only. Which makes a lot of people frustrated. I'd use PayPal if I had to.. But almost any other option would definitely make it nicer.
(DIR) Post #9uib24QiBi6af5OdnM by skyfaller@jawns.club
2020-05-04T23:31:52Z
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@PINE64 I am very concerned about the energy expenditures of Bitcoin. During the climate crisis we must conserve energy, and proof-of-work intentionally wastes energy as a fundamental design goal.E-mail sometimes uses proof-of-work to defeat spam, and I still use e-mail. But I avoid using cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum that rely on proof-of-work or similarly wasteful algorithms. There must be better alternatives, like proof-of-stake or Filecoin's proof-of-storage.
(DIR) Post #9uic9OxGNHwKIfgKFE by PublicNuisance@fosstodon.org
2020-05-04T23:44:29Z
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@PINE64 I don't use Bitcoin at the moment but with more and more places I buy from supporting it I just may have to start.
(DIR) Post #9uieRAgWMvPbABS4VU by amdac@social.privacytools.io
2020-05-05T00:09:53Z
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@PINE64 Considering Paypal shares your personal information with over 600 companies, I would use ANY other means of payment regardless of any difficulties with crypto conversion.
(DIR) Post #9uirlue0V80WtqUpyy by Nonetrix@dickkickextremist.xyz
2020-05-05T02:39:57.798430Z
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@PINE64 do you accept vbucks and minecoins or robux though amateur HA
(DIR) Post #9uiuEKKEoRDcZ5vU9o by knowlab@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T03:06:52Z
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@PINE64 ETH or XRP
(DIR) Post #9uj1K1SeYsxXTWWdY8 by tomosaigon@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T04:26:53Z
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@yarmo By allowing Bitcoin Cash payments, you can pretty much accept Bitcoin payments as well. More people have Bitcoin but Bitcoin Cash users are probably more likely to spend. @PINE64
(DIR) Post #9uj5HVkdt2o4Mlzuee by xinayder@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T05:10:45Z
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@PINE64 use stripe to handle payments from other currencies
(DIR) Post #9uj7lI1Hhl3SNH6pFI by utf8equalsX@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T05:38:32Z
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@PINE64 I'd like it if you had a European bank account, then I could transfer money for free, in comparinson to extensive "oversees" charges when transferring the money to Hong Kong directly.
(DIR) Post #9ujATX815nMDsnTzQO by Lanthanus@mastodonten.de
2020-05-05T06:08:42Z
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@PINE64I would always prefer bank transfer over all other options. As @utf8equalsX already pointed out, an option for SEPA bank transfers would be nice for customers from Europe.
(DIR) Post #9ujCBLNmDxnk9LJCkK by pajlow@metalhead.club
2020-05-05T06:28:11Z
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@PINE64 Klarna would be more accessible.
(DIR) Post #9ujEcFIHAaZYzcgv6u by kamenrannaa@mastodon.social
2020-05-05T06:55:23Z
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@PINE64 No, Bitcion is a surveillance coin as can be highlighted by any # of real world cases. Take for example any number of congressional cryptocurrency hearings where when Bitcoin concern is highlighted by Congress, it's shown to be traceable by panelists. I'd far rather buy a PinePhone/PineTab/PineTime w/ something reasonably private like Monero. Why buy a privacy product w/ something that's literally a transparent, traceable ledger for *anyone* to analyze (BTC) when better tech exists?
(DIR) Post #9ujF3eOjwOG8ffmZZA by kamenrannaa@mastodon.social
2020-05-05T07:00:39Z
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@PINE64 No, Bitcion is a surveillance coin. Take for example any number of congressional cryptocurrency hearings where when Bitcoin concern is highlighted by Congress, Bitcoin shown to be traceable and win for big brother by panelists much to Congress's joy. I'd far rather buy a PinePhone/PineTab/PineTime w/ something reasonably private like Monero. Why buy a privacy product w/ Bitcoin, a transparent, traceable ledger for *anyone* to analyze, when better tech like Monero exists?
(DIR) Post #9ujF7wptKa1x0uX0oi by Coffee@toot.cafe
2020-05-05T07:00:55Z
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@PINE64I'd prefer direct bank transfer. A european bank account would be nice, but international charges are no obstacle.
(DIR) Post #9ujFmEbOhChjhKxi2C by kamenrannaa@mastodon.social
2020-05-05T07:08:08Z
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@PINE64 No, Bitcion is a surveillance coin. Take for example any number of congressional cryptocurrency hearings where when Bitcoin concern is highlighted by Congress, Bitcoin shown to be traceable and win for big brother by panelists much to Congress's joy. I'd far rather buy a PinePhone/PineTab/PineTime w/ something reasonably private like Monero. Why buy a privacy product w/ Bitcoin, a transparent, traceable ledger for *anyone* to analyze, when better privacy tech like Monero exists?
(DIR) Post #9ujHlke0HL2Sh34vIG by yarmo@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T07:31:15Z
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@geekgonecrazy @PINE64 oh, it's PayPal only now? The only pine64 product I ever bought was the OG kickstarter (best kickstarter ever <3). Is a creditcard/debitcard method not a simple addition?
(DIR) Post #9ujKTn0Z3DHKftl2q8 by Igorjagec@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T07:59:51Z
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@PINE64 I don't know much about bitcoin to trust that, so I'd definitely need a transition period to make myself comfortable.
(DIR) Post #9ujNKgBPMBLslOB3qK by snm@social.tchncs.de
2020-05-05T08:32:38Z
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@PINE64I would prefer SEPA bank transfer. Credit card would be another option.
(DIR) Post #9ujNY6zqyY3zgmB5yy by bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com
2020-05-05T08:35:09Z
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@PINE64 Other option: some inbetween payment handler which allows everyone to pay with what they're used too in their country, e.g. iDeal in the Netherlands.Or if cryptocoin: some privacy-focused coin like Monero rather than Bitcoin.
(DIR) Post #9ujO2giMk2e39aZtxI by samuel@social.librem.one
2020-05-05T08:40:30Z
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@PINE64 I purchased my Librem 5 with Monero and pay for VPN + email with Monero. Bitcoin is a traceable ledger of transactions and a privacy nightmare. I would LOVE to be able to buy Pine64 products with XMR.
(DIR) Post #9ujOazpgATJyIDMH9k by raucao@kosmos.social
2020-05-05T08:46:50Z
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@PINE64 Bitcoin only, but with Lightning Network option, because it settles instantly and is basically free! (BTCPay Server does both. Or you can use a hosted gateway like OpenNode.)I'd only use that for sure.
(DIR) Post #9ujZ0o3FajFCpDeUFs by Bobo_PK@chaos.social
2020-05-05T10:43:54Z
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@PINE64 Bitcoin burns so much energy for just one transaction. I am not a fan but amazon, google and aliexpress offer own payment services. CC would be the best option not being dependent on one service but banks...
(DIR) Post #9ujaRikPWEu09GEmmm by fuyuhikodate@s.knusper-land.de
2020-05-05T10:59:49Z
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@PINE64Litecoin. Does not burn so much energy like bitcoin.(if it Has to be a cryptpcurrency ^^)
(DIR) Post #9uk08KwwN9h3e9W38q by nipos@social.avareborn.de
2020-05-05T15:48:22Z
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@PINE64 I'd prefer SEPA but almost everything is better than Paypal so I'll use the possibility to pay with Bitcoin.
(DIR) Post #9uk0KjQbBjkX2XIZzk by 25001.foxhkron@cybre.club
2020-05-05T15:50:35.778654Z
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@PINE64 European SEPA transfers would be neat.
(DIR) Post #9uk0pzsc4RgT2dJJiq by witti@netzkombin.at
2020-05-05T15:53:34.453268Z
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@PINE64 warum soll ich mir nen kopp ums bezahlen machen, bevorich überhaupt weiß, was man bei euch für nen krempel kaufen kann ?
(DIR) Post #9uk0q04JMx2dcumexM by 25001.foxhkron@cybre.club
2020-05-05T15:56:13.962610Z
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@witti @PINE64 Laptops und Smartphones welche mit Free Software laufen. Gibt verschiedene Distributionen (Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile...), welche zum Beispiel auf dem Pinephone funktionieren.
(DIR) Post #9uk14Uly0bXOuM7Cfw by witti@netzkombin.at
2020-05-05T15:56:59.837957Z
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@foxhkron da kauf ich lieber ein handy mit kai OS @PINE64
(DIR) Post #9uk14UwxLkKPSRFynw by 25001.foxhkron@cybre.club
2020-05-05T15:58:53.124042Z
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@witti @PINE64 Ist jedoch größtenteils proprietär
(DIR) Post #9uk32o7RJBOqErTvQe by nitesparrow@social.anoxinon.de
2020-05-05T16:20:19Z
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@PINE64 SEPA
(DIR) Post #9uk77QsRY35JQ5vc7k by nat@ferrus.net
2020-05-05T17:05:42Z
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@PINE64 If by bitcoin you mean BCH, then yes.
(DIR) Post #9ukAK6c2VD6SCIzRiq by ion@fosstodon.org
2020-05-05T17:40:34Z
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@PINE64 Monero is the way
(DIR) Post #9ukmvUQmhmqF2eyksK by akash@metalhead.club
2020-05-06T00:54:32Z
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@PINE64 would prefer something free and fast like $nano or $xlm
(DIR) Post #9ukrbBNGLd8VuwT3Uu by brunomaximom@mastodon.social
2020-05-06T01:46:56Z
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@PINE64 Brave BATs please
(DIR) Post #9ul25EQeYQBZcX1Lk0 by geekgonecrazy@fosstodon.org
2020-05-06T03:44:55Z
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@yarmo @PINE64 yup I think only been PayPal on their website. I think they don’t want to mess with tax related stuff maybe? Idk I’ve Implemented enough payment processing this seems like no brainer to me as well
(DIR) Post #9ul2NJZcAKQsmwppqK by PINE64@fosstodon.org
2020-05-06T03:47:45Z
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@geekgonecrazy @yarmo Direct card transactions aren't so easy when you have customers all around the world. Different payment systems in several regions that normally aren't compatible. We'd have to be using several different processors at the same time, which would be a nightmare for the sales team.
(DIR) Post #9ul2mzkeUBCSqCF84W by geekgonecrazy@fosstodon.org
2020-05-06T03:52:28Z
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@PINE64 @yarmo I can see it being hard if using multiple. I’ve had great luck with stripe handling all. Maybe limit cards to certain regions you are comfortable handling? E-commerce is fun isn’t it? :)
(DIR) Post #9ul3laJFh0ctbBJnSy by BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us
2020-05-06T04:03:22Z
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@yarmo @PINE64 Problem is Bitcoin Cash isn't Bitcoin so you lose everyone who hasn't bothered with that.
(DIR) Post #9ul3o2GgiKtItFHtZY by BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us
2020-05-06T04:04:14Z
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@thebitstick @PINE64 Nice!
(DIR) Post #9ullmTUuttHwkF0ckK by chebra@mstdn.io
2020-05-06T12:16:17Z
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@PINE64 I've been postponing my purchase since December, waiting for anything else than Paypal. But if Bitcoin is available, I always use it. Thank you for this.
(DIR) Post #9uoeOShs4cdD8WYDbc by cadadr@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-05-07T21:37:24Z
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@PINE64 Paypal cannot operate in Turkey, so Paypal-only blocks the whole country out.Bitcoin isn't green and it's unstable. I get that cards are hard to deal with tho, especially if you're not a large company. Maybe international money transfers / EFTs could work?
(DIR) Post #9up2VrE9hbUa74i8rA by sindastra@mastodon.social
2020-05-08T02:08:05Z
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@PINE64 Honestly, what's more important to me is either shipping from EU or customs already done before dispatching. Customs is a PITA.