Post 9uZq2gcbwPp20A4gr2 by foxcpp@puppo.space
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(DIR) Post #9uZdrqKMJhTtT3bHw8 by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-04-30T15:51:06Z
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Cliqz shut down todayFor those unaware of what Cliqz is, IMPORTANT REMINDER that Mozilla does not value your privacy:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliqz#Integration_with_Firefox
(DIR) Post #9uZdtMTqG4v5TglBlg by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
2020-04-30T15:52:03.634671Z
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@sir Nothing of value was lost.
(DIR) Post #9uZeKlbiwbjzE8VyQy by bn4t@social.cyberpunks.xyz
2020-04-30T15:55:47Z
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@sir I liked that they were trying to build a new search engine. Still kinda sad that this project is now gone.
(DIR) Post #9uZgsAvg1FKPE3uCvI by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T16:24:10Z
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@sir good fucking riddance. I hate wolves in sheep’s clothing far more than I hate wolves.
(DIR) Post #9uZhFH1BXybUlpUpJw by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-04-30T16:25:01Z
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@middlepath next up: Brave, Keybase, ProtonMail, and Tutanota
(DIR) Post #9uZhN8RFKVoiTgR13Q by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T16:29:12Z
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@sir totally with you on Brave and Keybase.I haven’t developed an opinion on ProtonMail and Tutanota yet. Company principles? Tech implementation?
(DIR) Post #9uZhU1k8cZe1jvYdHc by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-04-30T16:29:40Z
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@middlepath using false security claims to justify omitting features which prevent vendor lock-in
(DIR) Post #9uZhaZz4EApBfnfHv6 by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T16:31:43Z
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@sir assuming this means import/export or using their weird JMAP protocol?
(DIR) Post #9uZhgjiGy4MtaKkGmG by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-04-30T16:31:55Z
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@middlepath I'm referring to IMAP and SMTP
(DIR) Post #9uZib9LWqqcrIl0UyG by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-04-30T16:44:04Z
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Let me reiterate this more clearly:Firefox opted users into sending all of their browsing history to a third party for the purpose of targeted advertising.
(DIR) Post #9uZj3QE1gnE5l7yl9c by elliptic@mstdn.io
2020-04-30T16:48:38Z
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@sir cliqz didn't shut down. they closed down their browser/search stuff. ghostery remains.
(DIR) Post #9uZj8OBsgIWCtfLOZU by Kalvo@noagendasocial.com
2020-04-30T16:50:47Z
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@sir Man this disappoints me so much. I try to disable everything I can but I feel eventually it's just gonna be built in. I don't like where this stuff is going. I am still going to use it primarily because I do not want Google's engine taking over the web. Most browsers now are based on Google's crap and I want to avoid a monopoly of control going to Google. But eventually something is gonna have to change :/.
(DIR) Post #9uZkgjISobpu9lMUam by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T17:07:20Z
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@sir all that search data that Mozilla gave them will now likely end up in the hands of some shady Private Equity firm who will in turn monetize it and distribute it as much as they can.
(DIR) Post #9uZl8PHOpebOBO3sAq by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T17:12:12Z
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@sir I guess the real question is wtf to do about the browser problem.It’s a doomed Herculean effort to attempt a greenfield project, so the most viable option is probably using an existing open source render engine and JS engine.Is Konquerer still a thing? Even if it is, it wasn’t cross-platform. I’m unaware of anything better than Firefox to recommend to normies.
(DIR) Post #9uZoC6oLju8hvMvkrw by arpunk@chaos.social
2020-04-30T17:46:07Z
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@sir This is one of the reasons I ditched all browsers and started to use next instead.https://next.atlas.engineer
(DIR) Post #9uZpfyIO432I9hmequ by foxcpp@puppo.space
2020-04-30T18:02:43Z
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@sir Important reminder that addons.mozilla.org pages have (or at least used to) Google Analytics tracker that cannot be blocked by any addons since addons.mozilla.org pages are "protected".
(DIR) Post #9uZq2gcbwPp20A4gr2 by foxcpp@puppo.space
2020-04-30T18:05:17Z
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@sir Additionally, Firefox has essentially a backdoor that allows Mozilla at any time to drop any code into deployed versions of __their__ browser. (Not using pronoun "your" there, you got me)
(DIR) Post #9uZq9Uq09VHJTtaLJY by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
2020-04-30T18:09:26.190205Z
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@foxcpp This is Normandy, isn't it?@sir
(DIR) Post #9uZrjJvMJ2HS0pjlCK by Mikoto@lets.bemoe.online
2020-04-30T18:27:04.863360Z
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@foxcpp @sir For anyone using firefox, remember to set extensions.webextensions.restrictedDomains to "" (these are the domains where extensions are disabled) and set app.normandy.enabled to false (this is the backdoor I think, but there are likely more). Debian by default disables some of the telemetry stuff I think.
(DIR) Post #9ua0g3IwXXrfBcHjP6 by sidd_harth0_5h4h@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T20:06:18Z
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@sir @middlepath I don’t understand how Brave, Keybase, ProtonMail & Tutanota fit in here 🤨
(DIR) Post #9uaLuLctJb3T6NH0nw by zardoz@cybre.space
2020-05-01T00:02:46Z
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@middlepath @sir QtWebEngine is a good option
(DIR) Post #9uaLuLnAhNHJcG5DpQ by zardoz@cybre.space
2020-05-01T00:04:00Z
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@middlepath @sir the netsurf project also has a *very* fast renderer, unfortunately without full CSS support or JS support. It's a nifty little browser though and it's designed to be modular
(DIR) Post #9uaLuLyA2W4KALDzxQ by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T00:04:32Z
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@zardoz @middlepath netsurf is cool. SourceHut basically just werks in it for day-to-day use
(DIR) Post #9uaPo4e9vo5AWI88zw by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-01T00:48:55.939077Z
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@sir @zardoz @middlepath i seem to have missed the meme for people spelling work as werk. you're the second person i've seen do this :blobcatpeek2:
(DIR) Post #9uaPsG2DX6DgzuNVxI by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T00:49:18Z
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@icedquinn @zardoz @middlepath werk is rarely seen outside of the context "just werks"
(DIR) Post #9uaPsGDYqvIHZ5gZdY by icedquinn@blob.cat
2020-05-01T00:49:41.041364Z
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@sir @zardoz @middlepath Stonks. :blobcatprofit:
(DIR) Post #9uaPytQC0UbgtHkxt2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2020-05-01T00:51:01.596778Z
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@sir And there is Pocket for the bookmarks side of things…
(DIR) Post #9uaQOO3VFOrN8kIfWC by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-05-01T00:55:30.017955Z
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@middlepath @sir JMAP is Fastmail and it is open and good -- a HUGE improvement in performance and features over IMAP with lower latency and less bandwidth usage.Last I knew Google was going to move to it after collaborating on final design because Fastmail did a better job than Google's attempt at the same thing
(DIR) Post #9uaQWoVulBkXW1bjH6 by foxcpp@puppo.space
2020-04-30T18:39:51Z
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@sir The backdoor I mentioned is called "studies" and can be rather easily disabled in preferences. But still, Mozilla, why do we have this enabled by default instead of being opt-in? *shakes head*
(DIR) Post #9uaQgHnbFPgIwrOdpw by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T00:55:51Z
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@feld @middlepath JMAP takes a push protocol and turns it into a pull protocol, which is regressive right off the bat
(DIR) Post #9uaQm6xgSBFP4ftIAq by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T00:56:08Z
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@feld @middlepath it's basically "what if webshits remade email in their own image"
(DIR) Post #9uaQmGi6CyitJEfzGq by ivesen@miniwa.moe
2020-05-01T00:59:48.087932Z
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@sir well that suckstheir search engine is actually pretty good
(DIR) Post #9uaQvWRz3YtQjTYDqK by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2020-05-01T01:01:37.380003Z
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@sir @feld @middlepath I think JMAP fixes few things from IMAP thought, like ability to actually move emails without doing a download+upload (I hated that back when I had a crappy connection).
(DIR) Post #9uaQyzVdTMYzj3ufsu by cirno@pl.smuglo.li
2020-05-01T01:02:06.996635Z
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@lanodan @sir How's badwolf going? I might install it over the weekend and use it since firefox has been continual disappointments for a while now
(DIR) Post #9uaRKXuImG7cURjEoa by middlepath@mastodon.social
2020-05-01T00:58:24Z
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@feld Oops. You are totally and absolutely correct. As a longtime Fastmail customer I knew that and somehow forgot.
(DIR) Post #9uaRTmKeVz4XpoSMIi by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-05-01T01:07:41.090638Z
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@sir @middlepath IMAP was not originally push. And JMAP is push. It streams updates live to your client.IMAP is a terrible slow filesystem that only lets you operate on one file at a time
(DIR) Post #9uaRZX5m5cIKJ3F1Au by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T01:08:02Z
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@feld @middlepath believe me, few know better than I how awful IMAP is. But I don't like JMAP, either.
(DIR) Post #9uaRfCjcgrjAuHaIW8 by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-01T01:08:54Z
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@feld @middlepath and I just double checked, and the JMAP "push" support is (1) new and (2) fucking awful
(DIR) Post #9uaRoj006PObZvmhxQ by feld@bikeshed.party
2020-05-01T01:11:28.011440Z
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@sir @middlepath maybe in this published spec it's new but I've been using it since 2014Say what you want about the API, the user experience cannot be compared. It's simply unbeatable.
(DIR) Post #9uaRqyDGVZb7LK3lQm by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2020-05-01T01:11:59.117324Z
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@cirno @sir Still a daily driver for me (see [url=https://hacktivis.me/articles/BadWolf%2C%20one%20year%20later]Badwolf, one year later[/url]).I think you can try it as a remplacement to a session-less[1] Firefox+uBlock₀.Things you could be missing is history and bookmarks (I use an HTML page for this right now). And a µMatrix-like thing would be great but unrealistic for now as even other webkit browser do not have it.
(DIR) Post #9uaaHgVZF2VJstrzJg by kakol@freespeechextremist.com
2020-05-01T02:46:21.039773Z
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@sidd_harth0_5h4h @sir @middlepath Brave's business model sounds almost identical to Cliqz
(DIR) Post #9uaaS2kJPtlPkXhpQm by kakol@freespeechextremist.com
2020-05-01T02:48:13.364895Z
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@middlepath @sir ProtonMail doxed one of their users to the authorities because their email was on a poster. As far as I'm concerned they're beyond compromised, if not internally then ethically.
(DIR) Post #9uh7AIeO0acjIdqBGa by hast0011@mstdn.social
2020-05-04T06:21:58Z
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@sir.I dont like they bother all the time to sync bookmarks and passwords to their cloud. Why not to any webdav directory? That would be open and more userfriendly than setting up a sync server without proper documentation and many hours of try and error.Second why do they have google as search engine, not duckduck as default? No trust here.
(DIR) Post #9uk0J8VoxG6QG3yqtE by hast0011@mstdn.social
2020-05-05T15:48:57Z
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@sirChecked the Cliqz function today. Isn't that an extension only? You can easily stay away from that.
(DIR) Post #9uk0QLJtjbAI0Wq8rg by sir@cmpwn.com
2020-05-05T15:49:39Z
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@hast0011 no. Users were opted-in to having their browsing history sent to Cliqz from Firefox without informed consent.