Post 9uZ2JIb5JxMLuMNPyi by AugierLe42e@diaspodon.fr
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(DIR) Post #9uZ22UxO7A3tJmnW4m by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T08:47:49Z
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Systemd-homed will change the way we manage users and their home directories on #Linux. "Outside of including a much-improved security, systemd-homed will finally enable a truly portable home directory."Interesting stuff, I'm assessing how this will impact our setup.https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-home-directory-management-is-about-to-undergo-major-change/
(DIR) Post #9uZ2JIb5JxMLuMNPyi by AugierLe42e@diaspodon.fr
2020-04-30T08:50:50Z
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@Gina I expect a lot of ranting "systemd is bloated!" and other "systemd is not KISS!".
(DIR) Post #9uZ2OGKPBV1eJowRk0 by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T08:51:45Z
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@AugierLe42e I've never known anything else than systemd, so for me it's all fine. 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #9uZ2lM5hvM8cqv4vdw by AugierLe42e@diaspodon.fr
2020-04-30T08:55:55Z
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@Gina Me neither. But I'm really happy not having to write service's scripts in Bash 😍
(DIR) Post #9uZ2reaM4kNtwuPuYi by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-04-30T08:52:26Z
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@AugierLe42e @Gina ye… there are two ways to deal with new tech :-)Fun thing, both sentences are true and I still like systemd. It's so much more than just "Run stuff".
(DIR) Post #9uZ2reotCi0ifzDWDI by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T08:57:04Z
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@bekopharm @AugierLe42e true, you can also stop stuff. 😅
(DIR) Post #9uZ2vFxnYqdikC6HYm by lindsays@hackers.town
2020-04-30T08:57:39Z
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@Gina ooooohh!!! this looks like it'll be a major breakthrough. just hopefully not a major break in the process.
(DIR) Post #9uZ3FeE93ilJmvTBWi by lindsays@hackers.town
2020-04-30T09:00:09Z
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@Gina although at this point i'm hesitant cuz of worries that it'll break network directory users. with any luck that won't be a problem -- and maybe this will actually fix some of the network user problems... (i can see how it would make roaming profiles easier, for instance)
(DIR) Post #9uZ3FeRyEJoyTnwE4m by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T09:01:24Z
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@lindsays Exactly, I was thinking about that last part too.
(DIR) Post #9uZ3PXJfbmPpFZlkkC by AugierLe42e@diaspodon.fr
2020-04-30T09:03:09Z
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@Gina And restart ! ☝️🧐 @bekopharm
(DIR) Post #9uZ3RirhdmqxeDjL28 by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-04-30T09:03:35Z
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@Gina @AugierLe42e …or sandbox :) …or record /limit resource consumption :) …or write way more efficient timer jobs :) …or write conditional script execution :) …or report script results straight back to monitoring :) …or run "init" like stuff for user :) …orThere is a lot to it and the deeper I dig the more sense it makes.Also a lot of specialized tools that had to be installed and configured additionally for the usual must-have jobs are obsolete.
(DIR) Post #9uZ3gFnbzPwHqRkIFM by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T09:06:13Z
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@bekopharm @AugierLe42e damnnnn and here I thought I was SuperSysadmin just for using systemctl status on a daily basis.
(DIR) Post #9uZ3l0HD86Iz9Nr5CS by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-04-30T09:06:59Z
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@Gina @AugierLe42e same, same 😂
(DIR) Post #9uZ4DFCpDUD7YqGnxo by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-04-30T09:11:40Z
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@Gina @AugierLe42e Here is an example I'm currently checking. One of our servers killed it's restic prune process tonight by oom-killer. There are _plenty_ of not so important fpm-jobs it could kill but please leave the backup alone.It's run by systemd. Did you know there is OOMScoreAdjust?
(DIR) Post #9uZ4DFN6bGQy4j50zI by Gina@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T09:12:10Z
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@bekopharm @AugierLe42e Yeah I think I just realized how much of a noob sysadmin I still am.
(DIR) Post #9uZ4Qn8cMvxUZ2lJ1k by bekopharm@social.tchncs.de
2020-04-30T09:14:35Z
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@Gina @AugierLe42e nah, don't worry. Read into the topic - like you already do - and you'll be fine. I learn new stuff every day _because_ IT is changing every day. We will never catch up on everything.IPv6 anyone? :)
(DIR) Post #9uZ5WoivUDfZApBLaS by kat@mastodon.social
2020-04-30T09:26:54Z
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@Gina cue another decade of systemd related shouting
(DIR) Post #9uZ5uKNjwp2a1KU0zA by nattiegoogie@mstdn.io
2020-04-30T09:31:08Z
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@Gina Holy crap. Systemd is 10 years old?!Now I feel old ... again.
(DIR) Post #9uZ7QXcENeFgHjBZ0S by nattiegoogie@mstdn.io
2020-04-30T09:48:11Z
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@Gina I'm sure I'll soon be seeing Blogs-o'-Plenty explaining all the many ways that homed sucks ... but until then, this sounds pretty sweet.I especially like the on-the-fly, no-need-to-think-about-it, integrated LUKS encryption.
(DIR) Post #9uZ7ZOTLkCM0XAFisq by chillja@metalhead.club
2020-04-30T09:49:39Z
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@Gina Really hope that'll work some day - and preferably with nixos. every step closer to "I just want to use this arbitrary device to enter my personal cyber" that isn't "everything cloud" is good in my book :) sounds like gold for business adminstration as well
(DIR) Post #9uZBjD2nUM7bnnljGq by oranje@cybre.space
2020-04-30T10:36:19Z
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@Gina Old carmudgeon alert!!!Not a fan of changing the file structure that has served us so well and become a standard. I hate the distros that do this. Another reason to hate systemd.
(DIR) Post #9uZDWtCRdxxUgnXCbI by duponin@udongein.xyz
2020-04-30T10:56:39.453518Z
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@Gina @bekopharm @AugierLe42e System administration is so wide that you can't know everything, you don't really have to worry about being a noobThe most important is to stay curious and to discover new things and improveDon't be a tech grumpy cat
(DIR) Post #9uZEeXl9LFOoSqytBQ by gray@fosstodon.org
2020-04-30T11:09:07Z
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@Gina Interesting.
(DIR) Post #9uZT7rnvIGMoO89fRQ by FreePietje@x0f.org
2020-04-30T13:51:20Z
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@Gina BTW: Systemd 245 has been available on Debian since 11 March 2020; systemd-homed has not yet been enabled though.https://tracker.debian.org/news/1108231/accepted-systemd-245-1-source-into-unstable/Maybe it's because I'm one of those people critical of systemd, but the author makes it sound way more 'revolutionary' then it actually is.Replacing /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow with a JSON file *mind blown*Encrypted home directories? Available for quite some time already. Disk quotas? Nothing new either.Using it could be made simpler though.
(DIR) Post #9v6Vf15kW5e2fGDXZA by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2020-05-16T12:25:06Z
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@Gina Burn it with motherfucking fire.
(DIR) Post #9v6YuOnMy9uCNzeAPQ by morix@loci.onl
2020-05-16T13:01:31Z
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@Gina some of the stuff sounds interesting, except breaking SSH keys, sysadmins fixing/checking stuff in users homedirs, and stuff that references/serves content out of them which all sounds like a pain.I wonder if we'll see a public/private home space split to fix some of that and if it could be transparently mixed from the users point of view.
(DIR) Post #9v7GOIbwp3ztvFoBHs by 0xD@chaos.social
2020-05-16T21:08:45Z
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@Gina 30. Apr.Gina @Gina wrote:Interesting stuff, I'm assessing how this will impact our setup.https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-home-directory-management-is-about-to-undergo-major-change/Linux home directory management is about to undergo major change1) smb offers this feature for decades so do we need this refurbised idea ?2) only local home works when the server is down using ~ for shared data is a terrible idea in large networks anyway. why should I want more systemd in my machine than necessary? why rely on unreliable connetions?
(DIR) Post #9v7GZ6NEf2Kb9e4tNI by mathew@mastodon.social
2020-05-16T21:10:44Z
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@Gina I want it to enforce the XDG Base Directory Spec!https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
(DIR) Post #9v7Ryimg5Wep19OgzY by byllgrim@mastodon.xyz
2020-05-16T23:18:02Z
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> Of course Poettering knows of this> You can be sure that Poettering will come up with a solution