Post 9uSvuJKfgWecH8dpR2 by chloekek@floppy.tokyo
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(DIR) Post #9uSvfSuzlLT3f5YKga by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T10:08:13.231533Z
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Heh, apparently I got 12 invites for private messages on Matrix a day or 2 ago. It's the same account inviting me 12 times, which was not possible to condense to a single request, for reasons.Luckily, Matrix is blazing fast, so rejecting an invite only takes about 10 seconds. And you need to reject them individually, of course.Then you notice that these invites aren't disappearing, even though I clicked "Reject", I got a spinner for about 10 seconds, and the screen changed to the room I was in before checking out the invite.I want to like Matrix, but quality software is so low on their priorities that it's ridiculously hard to do so. Suggesting it to a friend is completely out of the question.
(DIR) Post #9uSvuJKfgWecH8dpR2 by chloekek@floppy.tokyo
2020-04-27T10:09:48Z
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@tyil I find that Telegram Desktop is extraordinarily good software for today’s standards. Would be nice if it could be forked and made to use libpurple instead of talking to Telegram’s servers.
(DIR) Post #9uT4UY7WyoZUCLHmrY by kline@cmpwn.com
2020-04-27T11:47:05Z
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@tyil this honestly sums it up. I'd happily adopt matrix because the ideals are there but not the implementation
(DIR) Post #9uT4pEvVXOI2kaWnkO by wowaname@anime.website
2020-04-27T11:50:50.733257Z
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@kline @tyil i caused shit in #matrix-synapse yesterday, many of these people have such fragile sense of pride... i dont want people like that touching any part of development
(DIR) Post #9uT4xRaWLWwQKtcjCa by wowaname@anime.website
2020-04-27T11:52:19.396410Z
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@kline @tyil tl;dr it got into a discussion about how matrix has more than enough funding but sponsors want shiny features, so matrix delivers half-assed features instead of fixing what they already have.pleroma is suffering from similar phenomena im pretty sure
(DIR) Post #9uT5FFE13AuvCnaLOi by kline@cmpwn.com
2020-04-27T11:55:31Z
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@wowaname @tyil I've written about this before, it's related to how they're funded
(DIR) Post #9uTJ9kObdyIVV6oNay by waweic@chaos.social
2020-04-27T14:31:20Z
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@kline @tyil In my eyes, the implementation is the only thing that sets Matrix apart from XMPP, which is a pretty nice standard with an efficient implementation
(DIR) Post #9uTRnjWl5j661XCcQC by af@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T16:08:18Z
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@wowaname @kline @tyil sponsors == VCs
(DIR) Post #9uTjSJ1iDvrevWc4um by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T19:26:08.029490Z
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@tyil Werks4me. Maybe you're just bad at it?
(DIR) Post #9uTp8vcpbXZeZW7Pyi by interru@social.interru.io
2020-04-27T18:53:29.515962Z
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@tyil synapse is a lost cause. I kind of lost any hope that the situation will improve. I briefly had the idea to engage in the developing. But that was very quickly depressing.At least it isn't the worst software in that category. That title goes to Wire. :)
(DIR) Post #9uTpBEXoEdWbpLrvVI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:30:16.283193Z
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@interru I've never used Wire, what's bad (or good) about it?
(DIR) Post #9uTpI7E3qMRb9kugVM by john@dads.cool
2020-04-27T15:13:34Z
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@tyil The issue I've had is that my main contact (a family member) is on a different client and tries to send me stuff that relies on her client's extensions (like an inline YouTube video, for example) and assumes I can see it the same way.I could try to use that client, but its memory usage is out of this world.
(DIR) Post #9uTpI7RX2HDfpXDRVA by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:31:29.219343Z
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@john I like the idea of multiple clients being available, and I personally don't like inline images and video. However, I'm not sure how it does render for you, so I'm not sure if it's at least handled properly. If both clients handle it in their own unique way, I don't think that's a problem.
(DIR) Post #9uTpW8roXRaUIhCCcC by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:34:01.750309Z
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@anornymorse I've rejected private chat invites before (which I don't think is a great feature to begin with), so I know it should work. It just... doesn't for these 12 invites. I see a request being sent to the server, which shows no errors, and it only takes a measly 12 fucking seconds to get a response.
(DIR) Post #9uTpcdeyxnmLXbI944 by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T20:35:13.868229Z
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@tyil ...and this is an @matrix.org account you're working with, correct?
(DIR) Post #9uTpehxrviwRTF72H2 by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:35:35.957518Z
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@anornymorse Correct.
(DIR) Post #9uTpiYcWc6sVeFxrge by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:36:17.686826Z
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@interru I had hopes in the beginning, but that's long gone by now.
(DIR) Post #9uTpna5gZfzjel02oi by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T20:37:12.529107Z
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@tyil So, you're completely unaware of how this "federation" thing works, and that you should probably not create a new account on the most popular/centralized/overloaded server, then condemn the entire protocol for your mistake of centralization?Because that's how it sounds.
(DIR) Post #9uTqDD3UqFOpk7CEVs by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:41:50.123056Z
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@anornymorse I am aware. I happen to also host the Pleroma instance I'm posting from.I know the Matrix team blames the users for using the service instead of fixing their problems, yes. This is by no means a new account, though. I've had it for years. Even if it were, it is absolutely retarded to keep registration open for all, and then blame the users for registering. Especially since not a single Matrix room is as active as the average IRC channel I'm in, and I seem to have a great response time there, and they're on way less (financial) resources. Clearly, it is very possible to make a chat system that's fast when there's over a hundred users. Only Matrix seems to fail this incredibly low bar.Lastly not blaming the protocol for "the mistake of centralization". I'm complaining about a bug that doesn't let me use a feature they make me use, in this case, invites for a private conversation. Nice evasion of the problem, though. This is why nobody takes the Matrix people seriously.
(DIR) Post #9uTqP3Y213xFjN7z0q by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T20:43:58.897387Z
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@tyil That's a whole lot of words just to cover up for the fact that I was correct twice.Go make an account on another matrix instance, watch your problems disappear for multiple reasons.
(DIR) Post #9uTqTU0BbPHWw2PKwC by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T20:44:45.369997Z
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@anornymorse Ok.
(DIR) Post #9uTqZ8phDoRt19CPom by interru@social.interru.io
2020-04-27T20:45:22.994604Z
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@tyil I use it with some colleagues for group chatting.Pro: Everything is open source and you don't need a phone number for setup (which was an important aspect for us in this case).Contra: It isn't federated. The Android client has an abysmal UX. *Every* interaction (replying, scrolling) resulted in crashes or weird behavior. Every time I wrote a message I had to restart the app. Invalid scroll states are also a thing: Then it crashes till someone writes a message.
(DIR) Post #9uTv11ToYLRA8bVxyq by interru@social.interru.io
2020-04-27T21:33:17.242570Z
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@anornymorse @tyil A new instance doesn't magically solve all problems. I did run an instance myself on decent hardware and still had problems. You could doubt my abilities to administrate my own server but even the matrix team has always problems. I mean they even had to abandon their main channel once because it was "corrupted".How should Matrix improve if nobody acknowledges that problems exists?
(DIR) Post #9uTvg4BNPRsoOPSg4m by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T21:43:04.831137Z
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@interru @tyil Your anecdotal assertion without evidence or application to an issue solved by federation is noted. Thanks for your contribution to the conversation.
(DIR) Post #9uTvoYtX6dkBxgAMvg by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T21:44:35.353500Z
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@interru @anornymorse It's a short-term work-around for all the symptoms of the underlying problem. And it seems that the Matrix team and the people cheering them on care only for the short term. It's also much easier to just blame the users than to actually reflect on what they made and make something good out of it.
(DIR) Post #9uTvuHA5wvKghYdatM by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T21:45:30.742928Z
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@tyil @interru > more words just to say "he's right about my meaningless gripe"What a great and useful contribution to matrix's development this has been.
(DIR) Post #9uTvx7Hd8Lw6vtW64W by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T21:46:08.680696Z
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@anornymorse @interru Are you trying to gatekeep me out of my own thread because you don't like people being critical of your preferred chat platform?
(DIR) Post #9uTwPL05j9j5aGlnhA by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T21:49:18.938195Z
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@tyil @interru > Let's see if I can spin my meaningless gripe about Matrix into you being a gatekeeper!did it work?
(DIR) Post #9uTwms1H84aMeRXqbI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T21:55:30.576891Z
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@anornymorse @interru If the problem is solved by federation, and Matrix is a federated protocol, how am I still encountering the problem? Now I'm starting to wonder if you actually know what federation is.
(DIR) Post #9uTwuHS4yFkvYUcEbY by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T21:56:51.269634Z
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@tyil @interru > Everyone being on the same matrix.org server is totally federation!You're neat. You make me laugh.
(DIR) Post #9uTx6lYuqb7cPplcie by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T21:59:06.309665Z
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@anornymorse @interru So you're saying Matrix is not a federated protocol, and matrix.org is currently not federating with any other servers?
(DIR) Post #9uTxAhGalBReFf4R28 by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T21:59:49.291316Z
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@tyil @interru > Look at this size of this strawman I built!
(DIR) Post #9uTxI6bMxlnKr1K0e0 by realcaseyrollins@gameliberty.club
2020-04-27T22:01:09Z
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@anornymorseIf there's a decentralized platform but everybody uses the same node, is it really decentralized? 💁🏾♂️@tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uTxwvYMwgGqSeNqrI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:08:31.909006Z
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@realcaseyrollins @anornymorse @interru I mean, there's multiple nodes out there, I'm chatting with a couple people (on IRC) that use different ones. They still have plenty of problems, and a lot of latency. Clearly, there's federation already, so I'm skeptical that "federation" is going to solve all issues Matrix (and its clients) are enduring.
(DIR) Post #9uTxy96K3qzglfqWh6 by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:07:37.862006Z
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@anornymorse @tyil @interru are you having some kind of stroke? The "flagship" Matrix instance is collapsing under its own weight. They can't even run presence notifications.Synapse is sufficiently shit that it can't handle moderate user counts.The matrix core devs care about growth more than a healthy ecosystem and correct protocol, and it shows because they're too scared to close registration on matrix.org.
(DIR) Post #9uTy2CTjRfrKOxjGWu by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:09:28Z
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@tyil I thought the problems with Matrix were with Synapse and not necessarily the protocol itself. @interru @anornymorse
(DIR) Post #9uTy85jHS4AnCsoKwK by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:10:33.161680Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > A whiteknight appears!> Break out my Internet Medical Degree!your opinion is completely meaningless, because matrix would and does route around a slow node.
(DIR) Post #9uTyDpcWG2IGz0NxpI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:11:33.855082Z
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@terryenglish @interru @anornymorse I haven't done much research, but it mostly seems to be an atrocious implementation. The problem is that its being defended, and everyone pointing out the *very* obvious issues is being shouted at for daring to point it out. I *think* it is possible to have a better implementation of the current protocol without all the glaring problems.
(DIR) Post #9uTyEhFgr87PJq7Ujw by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:11:39.527667Z
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@tyil @realcaseyrollins @interru > "I mean" = "no argument, but here's some more words"You didn't even try to prove me wrong. you just got triggered, typed, and got your followers to defend you.
(DIR) Post #9uTyGR4ly9YbjFqIiW by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:12:03.723977Z
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@terryenglish @tyil @interru sssshhhh. that ruins her narrative.
(DIR) Post #9uTyMRrXxPbjuFWVO4 by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:12:56.024789Z
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@tyil @terryenglish @interru Boy howdy.
(DIR) Post #9uTyNIrMunxOH2qby4 by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:13:17Z
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@tyil I hope that can be done sooner rather than later as it yields ground to garbage proprietary chat/voip software. @interru @anornymorse
(DIR) Post #9uTyNhNnjsA0KaCqqu by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:12:20.715147Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil about 70% of active matrix users are on matrix.org. Are you suggesting that the network can "route around" the place where 70% of the users and >70% of the activity happens?
(DIR) Post #9uTyNhXNAHogoGgUls by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:13:22.395617Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > I'm new to the internet!thanks for the laughs.
(DIR) Post #9uTyUGXRwai76Mqntg by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:13:47.252953Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil ok so that's an "oh fuck i cant answer that oh shid"
(DIR) Post #9uTyUGkDB8v1jwozmy by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:14:33.601310Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > TCP/IP fails if 70% of the internet goes down!This is literally you right now. And it's hilarious.
(DIR) Post #9uTykNmYmPNyCWbTe4 by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:15:55.911982Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil oh, sure, you can use matrix as a system perfectly fine if you exclude yourself from almost the entire network, it's true.But are you really saying that the best way to use matrix is to stay away from the one HS where almost everything of value happens?
(DIR) Post #9uTykNzfzdsSrCjx5c by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:16:48.837910Z
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@kline @interru @tyil look at all those words you now have to say in order to not say “fuck. he’s right about what I said.” :3:
(DIR) Post #9uTykzxArOSGaRrUSu by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:17:31.701339Z
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@terryenglish @interru @anornymorse I think it's already too late. I've had a reasonable number of friends try it out because the idea isn't too bad, and *all of them* have given up on it. Issues are being ignored or they are being blamed for using an instance that has other users on it. The performance is absolutely atrocious (over 20 seconds to join a private room), and that's even on small (20-ish) nodes). There's many problems, and the community seems hellbent on ignoring all of them. They've had plenty of time to at least try and fix some of the mess, but they just chose not to.Oh, and the service touting "secure" on their homepage had an unknown attacker sit on their infra for a while, stealing ssh keys while nobody noticed. They only stopped it after he came out publicly telling them they've got some serious issues with security. That entire ordeal was handled laughably bad. I believe that was the final straw for the Rizon team to just take down their bridge.
(DIR) Post #9uTywdNgbr4G3SoLOC by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:19:41.386693Z
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@tyil @terryenglish @interru @matrix@matrix@mastodon.matrix.org you should probably pack up the entire company and turn off the lights. A MLP avatar on the literally-who-niverse has said that "Matrix is Over", and this is apparently it's party.
(DIR) Post #9uTz0vjsIUrw9JEou8 by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:19:08.135131Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil are you saying that the only way to use matrix is to ignore the only HS of significant activity?
(DIR) Post #9uTz0vvvZgVgkgsRgu by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:20:27.804036Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > Naw, her strawman wasn't big enough. Hold my beer. Let me try my own!Nope. Same size.
(DIR) Post #9uTzBxMSbcYoMlXmN6 by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:22:11.801428Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil matrix confirmed for toy protocol of micronetworks.This is the weirdest defence of matrix I've ever seen. All you had so say was "matrix.org is a shitshow and the developers are massively money driven, but the idea is pretty cool once the network gets healthy" and I'd have agreed with you.
(DIR) Post #9uTzKoim6BcGAxCqsC by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:24:02Z
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@tyil I hope not. Federated communication is a wonderful idea. We just need server software that isn't complete garbage. Once we have that the rest will be easy as there's already decent clients. @interru @anornymorse
(DIR) Post #9uTzNuKzfog0SnYZSi by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:24:37.130239Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > All I have is chick moves like fake laughter and ad hominem left!Seriously, your strawmen look real cute next to each other.
(DIR) Post #9uTzTLgxOlU6kVQMz2 by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:23:00.913791Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil Instead you're doubling down on posting image macros and pretending that matrix.org isn't the worst thing about matrix
(DIR) Post #9uTzTLjRFXTAsCaLqq by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:25:35.140980Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > Pic related isn't what I'm trying to whiteknightOK son.
(DIR) Post #9uTzV55o5JwJqYsE4W by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:25:54Z
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@anornymorse They suffer from the same problem that mastodon.social does. People don't get what federated networks are so everyone joins the main server because that one is already in people's minds. @tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uTzbDnYd8j2aIGX1U by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:27:01.512155Z
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@terryenglish @tyil @interru ...but all the ones that don't follow herd mentality have a great experience with none of the issues OP complains about.
(DIR) Post #9uTzc5LPY0ISedVoeG by freemo@qoto.org
2020-04-27T22:26:58Z
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@anornymorse Can't argue with that.@tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uTzdLX8qG1h9bbHlI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:27:22.978119Z
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@terryenglish @interru @anornymorse We already have federated chat protocols. I honestly more hope in improving IRC or XMPP than Matrix ever taking off. They'd first need to solve this massive issue that is their community, and those are neigh impossible to solve.
(DIR) Post #9uTzkLmkIwNpxgEsL2 by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:28:38.832072Z
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@terryenglish @anornymorse @interru mastodon.social actually closed registrations (for a while, at least) to cope with the massive influx that they experienced. If the server can't handle more users, it's time to make that known to potential users by closing registrations, and preferably point them to sources to find another instance.
(DIR) Post #9uTzmzCEkIcqlwQ2CW by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:27:28.586990Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil matrix.org is where almost the entire activity of matrix happens because the core devs are chasing cash. And you defend this and say "yeah bro just don't talk to 70% of matrix users"?Just throw them under the bus man. I like matrix, there's no need to defend the shitty practices that have poisoned the network.
(DIR) Post #9uTzo3MSkK1Nyli8Iq by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:29:00.143977Z
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@tyil @terryenglish @interru Hey, does anyone reading this still *not* think that this was a premeditated attack on Matrix using a lack of information spread as fact? It's a pretty bald-faced smear-job at this point.
(DIR) Post #9uTzrEkMs5CI9xPVPk by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:29:53Z
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@tyil That's probably what matrix.org should do unfortunately. @interru @anornymorse
(DIR) Post #9uTzruRLrAwRT8pubY by moonman@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:30:01.947863Z
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@anornymorse @tyil @interru @terryenglish I've had tons of problems with matrix.
(DIR) Post #9uTztnp9QUUxWps4Rc by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:30:07.394796Z
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@kline @interru @tyil > "TCP/IP Fails if 70% of the internet dies", part 2: Electric boogalooAnother reminder that you're whiteknighting the fact that pic related happened.
(DIR) Post #9uTzv16RXbtV0BXRJI by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:30:35Z
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@tyil IRC and XMPP don't do VOIP to my recollection. Voice and video chat are kind of important in this day and age. @interru @anornymorse
(DIR) Post #9uTzwQuR4yZrKQb5oO by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:30:51.532085Z
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@terryenglish @tyil @interru but what would uninformed MLP avatars do if their problems were solved by federation? :)
(DIR) Post #9uTzzEHoT34R31rhlg by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:31:21.570612Z
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@terryenglish @interru @anornymorse Matrix doesn't do VOIP either. It just opens a frame to jitsi.
(DIR) Post #9uTzzUO4bXaKz4uvkO by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:31:24.589754Z
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@moonman @interru @terryenglish @tyil SPC has a matrix instance?
(DIR) Post #9uU09Hx9gnJfJf01Ca by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:33:10.926272Z
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@tyil @terryenglish @interru > I'm so uninformed, I'll flat-out lieyou're magical. Riot.im doesn't use jitsi for voip unless it's multiparty.Is anyone reading *not* seeing this is a bald-faced smear job on Matrix yet?
(DIR) Post #9uU0AtkWeIdEpRrLOq by moonman@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:33:28.123780Z
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@anornymorse @interru @terryenglish @tyil no I use lain's. among other problems, I have a room invite for years that cannot be accepted or rejected.
(DIR) Post #9uU0DspYWPZyqcdTQO by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:32:34.392958Z
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@anornymorse @interru @tyil matrix as a community fails if you have to splinter your network away from the core devs and 70% of users because they insist on it having a hub.I don't know what new vector are paying you but it's not enough to embarrass yourself like this.
(DIR) Post #9uU0Dt1bnbDjS0H6DA by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:34:00.566746Z
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@kline @interru @tyil I’m going to triple-down on TCP/IP failing when 70% of the internet goes down!Magical. I didn’t even read the rest of your post, because it was just bullshit to cover that up.
(DIR) Post #9uU0G0z1BJa2iC4tV2 by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:34:23Z
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@anornymorse Yeah I'm pretty sure Jitsi is offered optionally for multiparty like you say. Otherwise it's WebRTC. @tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uU0HCehGnILCb8i6C by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:34:36.740467Z
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@moonman @interru @terryenglish @tyil the instance is still going strong that long to have old-assed bugs?
(DIR) Post #9uU0PM5m4I14mogxuq by lain@lain.com
2020-04-27T22:36:04.098427Z
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@moonman @anornymorse @terryenglish @tyil if i could i'd shut down that server. it's not a nice system to run.
(DIR) Post #9uU0RA73ZtagDE9ZSq by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:36:17.641511Z
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@moonman @interru @terryenglish @tyil I guess what I'm asking is: "why not just wipe and start anew with a new revision of the software, and let the 5-10 channels you host just rebuild themselves?"
(DIR) Post #9uU0Tb6EDHeKUNvXdY by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:36:49Z
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@moonman Isn't Matrix still pretty new? I dunno maybe it just needs more attention from developers make better implementations of the server software. @anornymorse @tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uU0nJIC83JR3MvLwe by moonman@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:40:05.737391Z
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@terryenglish @anornymorse @tyil @interru maybe, it's frustrating now though
(DIR) Post #9uU0o9Sy9EpQrqMgxU by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:40:12.139307Z
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@terryenglish @moonman @anornymorse @tyil @interru matrix has had 5 years of full time corporate development and is considered API stable (but the details still change too much for a volunteer foss effort to track it, hence why there are no workable alternative homeserver implementations)
(DIR) Post #9uU0yU7sBrpBq2QOZM by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2020-04-27T22:42:24Z
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@moonman Meanwhile the normies are all switching to Microsoft Teams, Facebook messenger or something else proprietary. 😩 @anornymorse @tyil @interru
(DIR) Post #9uU1es2lehFiBEFQTA by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2020-04-27T22:47:02.733318Z
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@tyil @anornymorse You can "clear cache" in settings. Sometimes it works. Other times the invites remain there more or less permanently. (I had a couple that stuck for about two weeks. Others have had them remain for years.)By the way, this doesn't just happen on Matrix.org ... the homeserver you use does not appear to make any difference.
(DIR) Post #9uU1esEovstSmbt3Fw by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:50:03.431277Z
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@lnxw37a2 @anornymorse >You can "clear cache" in settingsThanks, I'll try that. The issue is occurring on multiple machines, so I'm not getting my hopes up, but at least it's something I can try.>By the way, this doesn't just happen on Matrix.orgThat's what I gathered from asking around IRC. And a comment on this very thread. I keep getting shouted at that federation is the solution though. Which is odd, since I'm pretty sure matrix.org is already federating.
(DIR) Post #9uU1qfVm4jnomsRPfc by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:40:29.705677Z
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@anornymorse @interru @moonman @terryenglish @tyil >just reinstall your system!winbabby tier posting
(DIR) Post #9uU1qfpyrbxvnXtYAK by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:52:06.766642Z
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@kline @interru @moonman @terryenglish @tyil Hey, just checking in to see when you have an argument that isn't a strawman or ad hominem. I'll wait.
(DIR) Post #9uU1qnc5x7bzunSZdI by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:52:13.036094Z
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@lnxw37a2 @anornymorse Hah, clearing cache actually did remove the pending invites. Incredibly interesting. Thanks!
(DIR) Post #9uU1xVGsXxox3SjVJo by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:53:27.735962Z
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@tyil @lnxw37a2
(DIR) Post #9uU22Ugm8h8chGE35E by tyil@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:54:20.224948Z
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@anornymorse @kline @interru @moonman @terryenglish How incredibly ironic.
(DIR) Post #9uU25pHm198PRf7VLs by kline@soc.fglt.nl
2020-04-27T22:53:18.947470Z
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@anornymorse @interru @moonman @terryenglish @tyil "reinstalling your homeserver every time you reach a dozen rooms is no way to run a credible IM service"
(DIR) Post #9uU25pVbBkC48XaXtw by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-04-27T22:54:46.441573Z
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@kline @interru @moonman @terryenglish @tyil imagine being filled with such soy that you keep trying to defend m'lady's honor after she acknowledges she was wrong.