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(DIR) Post #9thoJihAdXljM8PDP6 by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T16:34:17Z
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I suspect either today or April 7 is my two-year anniversary in the #Fediverse. My mastodon.sdf.org account was created April 28, 2018, and remains my primary masto account. 🍸 🍰
(DIR) Post #9thoQIN4uK7hjy8vjM by djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology
2020-04-04T16:35:36Z
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@cosullivan it has been a pleasure to get to know you! :blobpats:
(DIR) Post #9thoRQHqxjXKa2EkIy by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T16:35:42Z
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and of course none of the people i started chatting with on my first day are still here, but I happily report people with whom I connected in spring 2018 are still here chatting with me. 🤗
(DIR) Post #9thoTI2yZMYrbUAVDk by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T16:36:01Z
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@djsundog Likewise! Love your beats!
(DIR) Post #9throw0zSqTjVQFhU8 by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-04T17:13:38Z
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@cosullivan happy two years! I have yet to look up when my fediversary is. Surely at least two years
(DIR) Post #9ths93po6J4ZY8cOJs by carlosceb@mastodon.social
2020-04-04T17:17:00Z
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@cosullivanits great to still having you on this fediverse. Happy anniversary!
(DIR) Post #9tht0c6bPfC3Be0gQi by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T17:26:52Z
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@carlosceb 😍 🎉
(DIR) Post #9thtAmpkNfdjM5ydGK by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T17:28:42Z
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@brandon I do remember the month. Mark Frauenfelder blogged on BoingBoing.net and a bunch of us came to mastodon to toot in each other in Japanese, despite it not being the first language of any of us (.ca, .us, .uk, .ph)
(DIR) Post #9thw904WUQcLhFjCQS by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-04T18:02:07Z
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@cosullivan huh, that’s a fun fact I wasn’t aware of! I wonder how many Japanese folk were offended by the terrible Japanese google translate was giving us :p
(DIR) Post #9thwDnvd4AZNTxrIw4 by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T18:02:51Z
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@brandon My imooto in Osaka for one. 😁
(DIR) Post #9ti28m7gx13i9yUCVU by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-04T19:09:14Z
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@cosullivan Oh damn, your family has a worldwide presence! :P How's the situation for her in Japan?
(DIR) Post #9ti3RJy7x4kuIUQ4wK by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T19:23:44Z
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@brandon Fine! Everyone healthy, what they do in the flu season they're doing now and death rates are low. Thanks for asking.
(DIR) Post #9ti6hyJ82arbtwsFzk by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-04T20:00:28Z
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@cosullivan I figured Japan would be equipped to handle this better than most considering the collectivist culture and the whole bowing thing :P
(DIR) Post #9ti85UJTJLUfmNoOdE by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2020-04-04T20:15:56Z
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@cosullivan I'm chopped liver?? ;-)
(DIR) Post #9tiO6sdtwFXGnB3NJI by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2020-04-04T23:15:20Z
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@gemlog I know you and I weren't chatting on my first day on Mastodon. We started in June.
(DIR) Post #9tiOBDPKg0iWLtJ2Rs by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2020-04-04T23:16:12Z
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@cosullivan No, not first day. I started in April of... whatever year that was.
(DIR) Post #9tiOR3HU5vvVZvBdYG by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2020-04-04T23:19:06Z
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@cosullivan I have email from you in 2017 - I guess that was it then.
(DIR) Post #9tiyfFk49t1Md5ctn6 by ssokolow@qoto.org
2020-04-05T06:05:03Z
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@cosullivan @brandon Yeah. Google Translate *can* produce surprisingly good translations... but it needs to be operated by someone who natively speaks the language being translated into so they can recognize and adjust for cases where it trips over something.
(DIR) Post #9tjZo0pWfOPzI7DiNs by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-05T13:01:10Z
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@ssokolow @cosullivan natively as in it’s their first language or as in already speaks enough of the language to know something doesn’t look right?
(DIR) Post #9tjmuAWmp2tUVfil3w by ssokolow@qoto.org
2020-04-05T15:27:52Z
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@brandon @cosullivan Most of the time, the latter will do but, sometimes, going a little further toward the former is necessary.Google will occasionally throw something at you where you get the gist but have to recognize the equivalent idiom or turn of phrase in the destination language to make it feel natural to the way a character speaks.A more mild example would be having Google give you "such a girl" when it needs to be "a girl like that".
(DIR) Post #9tkHUhvD8gNf84U5WS by brandon@fosstodon.org
2020-04-05T21:10:43Z
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@ssokolow @cosullivan Definitely agree with that sentiment. Idioms are difficult when it comes to translation as there's often an underlying meaning that's not explicit. A blog post by our instance admins used the phrase "enough in the kitty" but I can imagine how poorly that may translate to other languages.
(DIR) Post #9tknWN4SpVBTZeeKXI by ssokolow@qoto.org
2020-04-06T03:09:31Z
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@brandon @cosullivan *chuckle* I remember seeing the discussion of that here.Anyway, Google Translate does have a few other quirks that need to be massaged. I'm not sure whether I mentioned it in another branch of this thread or elsewhere, but I'm compiling a guide for what I'm learning while dogfooding an experimental Tesseract OCR frontend I've been cleaning up to push to GitHub, intended for OCRing manga and the like(It was a sleep-deprived rush experiment, so it needs refactoring first)