Post 9sKdeess90gbBjDDQu by faoluin@chitter.xyz
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(DIR) Post #9rLuI6cEhoyJu8mxUG by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T07:00:54Z
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Allegedly #Microsoft loves Open Source now. So the #FSF wants them to release #Windows7 under a FOSS license after support for this release has ended.Petition at: https://www.fsf.org/windows/upcycle-windows-7#UpcycleWindows7
(DIR) Post #9rM3oGB5aYOWPnUw8e by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
2020-01-25T09:00:12.359985Z
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@Sturmflut gnu hurd doa
(DIR) Post #9rM9uR2ci8Q5ZOrkhc by alyx@jpop.club
2020-01-25T10:08:31.518961Z
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@Sturmflut While it would be an interesting idea, I don't think it's gonna happen. Windows 7's code is probably too similar to Windows 10 for them to want to risk having more competition against their "flagship" OS. The only real reason people started moving away from 7, was because they stopped supporting new Intel CPUs at some point, meaning you had to upgrade your OS if you upgraded your hardware. If Win7 became open source, it wouldn't take that much time for people to code in support for newer hardware, and end up stealing users from Win10. Microsoft simply can't risk this.
(DIR) Post #9rMAlTor74fnX8ihN2 by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T10:17:33Z
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@alyx They could easily risk it if they were a good company. No Open Source fork of a ten year old operating system could ever keep up with their more recent operating system releases if they kept improving their flagship as everybody expects (and pays!) them to. But Microsoft isn't a good software company.Nor do they "Love Open Source", and it's time someone finally proves it. I can't hear that crap anymore.
(DIR) Post #9rMBUoSNELw8ZQow5o by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T10:21:51Z
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@alyx Comparison: If Android wasn't already Open Source and Google would release Android 1.6 (came out in 2009 like Windows 7) today, we wouldn't even think about someone being able to build an OS from it which could compete with Android 10.
(DIR) Post #9rMBUop3s05JhnR3SK by alyx@jpop.club
2020-01-25T10:26:18.534860Z
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@Sturmflut Android has had a lot more advancement and development put into it since 1.6 than Windows had since 7. You can easily run most software released today on Windows 7. You can't run basically any Android app released today on Android 1.6. For a lot of things, Windows 7 would still be competitive if it supported modern hardware. For most desk jobs, where you mostly work with a word or spreadsheet processor, Win 7 is more than enough. Technically these places could and should run Linux distros, but they're forced into Windows because most people are familiar enough with it.
(DIR) Post #9rMJo5nvkuWpVbbkY4 by hyphen@anime.website
2020-01-25T11:59:26.788729Z
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@Sturmflut YOUR MOVE
(DIR) Post #9rMrR69tfY4UOA5bxg by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-25T09:50:05Z
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@Sturmflut I just can't see that ever happening no matter how many people ask for it.
(DIR) Post #9rMrR8C66L1IhZ8OfY by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T10:03:22Z
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@InternetKevin I don't think anybody can see it, but there are a couple good reasons why someone has to try.
(DIR) Post #9rMrR9H65Ec63MTu6K by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-25T10:19:58Z
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@Sturmflut What are those reasons? Even if it happened, I can't see many Linux users switching to Windows.
(DIR) Post #9rMrRAJyC2VPIYpiDY by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T10:29:53Z
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@InternetKevin Microsoft got a lot of credit for declaring they "Love Open Source", to the point where people who should know better start claiming the company has changed completely and for the better.This is a very simple, clear and reasonable demand for many reasons - improve compatibility in other systems, IT security, sustainability etc. - which challenges the notion of this "New Microsoft". And now they suddenly have to find a good excuse for why they're not going to do it.
(DIR) Post #9rMrRCF53BmbFyYpsG by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-25T10:36:45Z
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@Sturmflut It's all about the $$$ and Microsoft are making a fortune from overcharging for basic security patches for Windows 7. They have many companies over a barrel.
(DIR) Post #9rMrREE5fqBBPU74bo by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-25T10:38:40Z
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@Sturmflut Imagine how many other security flaws would come to light if the whole OS was open sourced. There's probably a load of them that nobody has discovered yet.
(DIR) Post #9rMrRKTYRG78nBOVXs by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-25T10:40:55Z
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@Sturmflut I am not sure I would want say North Korea to know all the internal details of Windows 7. There's still a lot of national infrastructure running on it, which is a big problem.
(DIR) Post #9rMrRMYEip31EHbH7Y by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T10:53:36Z
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@InternetKevin A general discussion about IT security and product liability for software is long overdue anyways. Security by Obscurity doesn't work, people find way too many flaws without having the source.Who's responsible for what, and for how long? What happens when a product is discontinued? Why can't anybody else make patches for Windows 7? Why are we running national infrastructure on discontinued products? Why are we running national infrastructure on proprietary products at all? etc.
(DIR) Post #9rMrbD131qXsYHltia by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-01-25T18:18:05.844118Z
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@InternetKevin @Sturmflut hey, 1998 Called. They want their anti-free-software FUD back. More eyeballs == less bugs or exploits.http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween1.html#quote7
(DIR) Post #9rMri4dMaiioaBxzwe by comradeagle@shitposter.club
2020-01-25T18:19:20.389166Z
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@anornymorse @InternetKevin @Sturmflut Best Korea probably already knows what's in Window 7.
(DIR) Post #9rMrnh3dA0VbCQvtCa by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2020-01-25T18:20:21.261298Z
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@comradeagle @InternetKevin @Sturmflut Isn't BK already using Linux on their 192.168.x.x nationwide network?
(DIR) Post #9rMs2BQj26YfS6e0sC by comradeagle@shitposter.club
2020-01-25T18:22:58.436714Z
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@anornymorse @InternetKevin @Sturmflut AFAIK, yes. Red Star Linux or somesuch.
(DIR) Post #9rNsB1uZzCNThBmphw by IRC@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-01-26T05:59:15.023792Z
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@Sturmflut I'm going to tell you something revolutionary. Create your own libre operating system supporting better hardware free from contemporary flaws. Sell it too to upkeep costs, and always leave a donation bin.Begging is what losers do, winners innovative.@thatbricksterPeople forget UEFI.png
(DIR) Post #9rOBywpb2z6FXzyL4a by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
2020-01-26T09:41:12.021781Z
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@IRC But you'd end up with BSD, or Plan 9.@Sturmflut
(DIR) Post #9rPBTHdSMAKrxh9fKy by BloomingGardeng@quey.org
2020-01-26T21:10:10Z
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@Sturmflut I'm afraid that the benefits of this OS will not be great, but I like the idea of publishing code.
(DIR) Post #9rPzkopzA16vZEZQKO by IRC@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-01-27T06:33:35.106580Z
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@thatbrickster which lead to AT&T, Sony, IBM: Success.@Sturmflut
(DIR) Post #9sKdeess90gbBjDDQu by faoluin@chitter.xyz
2020-01-26T11:56:33Z
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@Sturmflut @InternetKevin "Why are we running national infrastructure on proprietary products at all?" That is my biggest question too.
(DIR) Post #9sKdfc4c508OlE9vQO by InternetKevin@mastodon.cloud
2020-01-26T17:59:26Z
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@faoluin @Sturmflut It's a good question. I think the answer is very political.
(DIR) Post #9sKdfdmbiuv63xkZdY by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-26T18:04:39Z
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@InternetKevin @faoluin The same as always I would say: Short-term moneysaving instead of long-term goals. Both in the private and public sector.
(DIR) Post #9sLOqT0mo5ipgg2wOu by Antanicus@mastodon.bida.im
2020-01-25T08:50:40Z
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@Sturmflut I wouldn't want that piece of crap on my laptop even if it was GPL'd to the core, to be honest
(DIR) Post #9sLOqTp7mvzKCnb8rY by Sturmflut@mastodon.technology
2020-01-25T09:52:46Z
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@Antanicus It's about all those people who are stuck with Windows 7 for the usual reasons (legacy hard/software), and about giving projects like ReactOS and Wine better insights.But TBH I also simply want to see the "Microsoft loves Open Source" crap exposed as what it is: crap.