Post 9rfpdRQQmsEjzt9hMu by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
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(DIR) Post #9rfkoAiGlQRvZznRaq by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-03T21:00:31.274341Z
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Lobster want the conservative vote. Therefore Lobster will be supporting the removal of bodily autonomy from women with anti abortion legislation. However, to be fair, Lobster will also put forward legislation making blood , bone marrow, and kidney donations mandatory from men. This way everyone becomes a vehicle for the state.Vote Lobster in 2020 #Lobster2020
(DIR) Post #9rfl254OXeKi8EmHku by MisterRogersSnapped@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:04:01.633832Z
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@surasanji @histoire Told you bro. BONES.
(DIR) Post #9rfl47ymhAJ3jc868u by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2020-02-03T21:04:17.225055Z
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@surasanji legalise post-natal abortions!!
(DIR) Post #9rfnU9wGEVNDFUUQeO by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:31:31.226161Z
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@surasanji I'll vote for anyone advocating egalitarian abortion: her body her choice, his wallet his choice.
(DIR) Post #9rfnY9rCTigO9c1tC4 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:32:14.726341Z
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@nerdman @surasanji but society
(DIR) Post #9rfnefZRTsWmFWpPbU by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:33:25.234469Z
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@fluffy @surasanji Society is nothing but a collection of individuals, and society doesn't have any rights, individuals do.Except in communist countries where the entire family pays for the thought criminal.
(DIR) Post #9rfnh9DoD4j8n1tJGS by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:33:52.232280Z
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@nerdman @surasanji that's not really a communist thing as a non-western thing
(DIR) Post #9rfnjNRkIFs9UDTO9A by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:34:16.406857Z
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@nerdman @surasanji so much as*
(DIR) Post #9rfnnimGvX7unm94zI by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:35:03.339907Z
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@fluffy @surasanji Not really. I don't see the hindu, for example, sending families to a gulag equivalent for being familes of an enemy of the state.
(DIR) Post #9rfnuvKOfBQdklXd68 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:36:21.608014Z
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@nerdman @surasanji chinese did that stuff thousands of years before communismdon't know anything about indian stuff but it wouldn't surprise me
(DIR) Post #9rfnyIN7RWn45jQFrE by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:36:58.168208Z
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@nerdman @surasanji what i mean is, it's not a commie thing imho, most likely an end to birth sin is western
(DIR) Post #9rfo4u83yYMUvlX1JQ by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:38:08.943361Z
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@fluffy @surasanji Hmm. Well, I guess most societies must have done some of that before the enlightment and the raise of individual rights. Before there were the nobility and the peasants, who really didn't have much in the way of rights...IDK, I don't like separating things into western and eastern because on one hand you have communist china and on the other you have Taiwan and Hong Kong, feel me?
(DIR) Post #9rfoDdGy15w9G2rGng by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:39:44.186396Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @surasanji It's not just restricted to commies. That's how states in general work.
(DIR) Post #9rfoQNMcTbrXgLZwI4 by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:42:01.910961Z
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@histoire @fluffy @surasanji Not as far as I know, really. I know for a fact south american dictatorships killed insurgents, but left their families alone for the most part. Sure, some mistakes were made, which is why you don't want dictatorships in power, but what I'm saying is that there wasn't a particular law for grabbing the families and putting them in a camp.
(DIR) Post #9rfoVC9rZCJqNMuTQ0 by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:42:54.790286Z
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@histoire @fluffy @surasanji Which I *know* was the case in USSR and Cambodia specifically.
(DIR) Post #9rfoZUjsQRBBA5nzU0 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:43:41.552744Z
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@nerdman @histoire @surasanji sounds like separating families, which is BAD
(DIR) Post #9rfolso0luopHJe8YK by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:45:55.442699Z
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@fluffy @histoire @surasanji Uh. When you put someone in jail most of the time there's a family getting separated in some measure. Not sure what you're getting at?
(DIR) Post #9rfosbqEF7MmgwtIP2 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:47:08.819119Z
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@nerdman @histoire @surasanji prisons are BAD
(DIR) Post #9rfox0FTRJB5Y0nIW0 by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:47:56.011118Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @surasanji I mean, sure, if you are limiting that to thought crimes, but one look at atrocities in various wars shows you that such horrors aren't limited to communists.Take for example, the ability of the US to permanently detain its citizens without trial, or the CIA manuals that specifically tell operatives how to use family members against the person they are trying to do something with.
(DIR) Post #9rfoxcztNAt3iynu8u by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:48:03.096636Z
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@fluffy @histoire @surasanji There's alternatives to them? Or you're being sarcastic?
(DIR) Post #9rfozgP7g1Wws0aLbM by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-03T21:48:24.755955Z
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@fluffy @nerdman @histoire @surasanji >> This but unironic.We need to avoid separating families by using social engineering instead to accomplish rehabilitation and punishment, over using prisons.
(DIR) Post #9rfp2CbavOCPJrcVhQ by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:48:52.699412Z
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@siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @surasanji Do you have any exceptions to this rule?
(DIR) Post #9rfp6FUW8Yg5QbEu12 by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:49:35.931909Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @surasanji There are two types of people in prison.Those that committed victimless crimes, and those that need to pay restitution or die.
(DIR) Post #9rfpFgdGb2H0D8peN6 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-03T21:51:29.774670Z
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@histoire @nerdman @fluffy @surasanji american prisons are pretty terrible, they mostly just turn petty criminals into murders
(DIR) Post #9rfpHixqtfbg1TQrx2 by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-03T21:51:39.899284Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @histoire @surasanji It isn't so much a rule as it is an aspiration. I want to do this with all criminals, even the absolute worst, but we need to know that such a policy will actually be effective at preventing people from being hurt before it is implemented. I think we should start with nonviolent offenders, but eventually we might reach a point where even the most violent offenders could be safely managed without prisons, even if it takes thousands of years to perfect these techniques
(DIR) Post #9rfpIZBSkJOJykCTNw by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:51:50.167008Z
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@histoire @fluffy @surasanji You can always advocate against underhanded things, but LEGALLY I mean. Communist dictatorships are the one that grabbed your fam wholesale and sent them to die in a camp for stuff you did. AS A RULE.
(DIR) Post #9rfpTj8C6Px20zzdMe by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:53:50.891195Z
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@siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @surasanji > nonviolent offendersOk, this works for me. Personally I would legalize all drugs, prostitution, etc. If it doesn't have a victim it should not be illegal, IMO.
(DIR) Post #9rfpVPoIuLQifiUjRI by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:54:09.333288Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @surasanji And I'm saying that LEGALLY the US can do the exact same thing. They haven't, and hopefully won't, but they are perfectly justified in it legally speaking.
(DIR) Post #9rfpYQX4gBlBmQs72u by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-03T21:54:52.690857Z
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@nerdman @histoire @fluffy @surasanji thanks to patriot act and such i believe they are technically following the rules, just the provisions of the patriot act says we cant know the rules they are enforcing exactly. The whole “but x did this” when you mention something thats bad is pretty dumb over all tbh, its even used in a whingey manner by peoples republic worshipers when ever you mention something bad going on in china they go “but in america!”
(DIR) Post #9rfpZa2OpC0JY94dEG by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:54:54.656238Z
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@a7 @histoire @fluffy @surasanji This is true of the maximum security prisons. Most are not like that. Because they're expensive to run.
(DIR) Post #9rfpdLq5YZCAfj76Wm by nerdman@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-03T21:55:35.516246Z
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@histoire @fluffy @surasanji Oh? What law would someone have to break for their family to be sent to Guantanamo, let's say.
(DIR) Post #9rfpdRQQmsEjzt9hMu by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:55:36.634143Z
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@nerdman @histoire @surasanji banishment
(DIR) Post #9rfpf8L4ilLFNgSP68 by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:55:54.581817Z
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@a7 @fluffy @nerdman @surasanji unsurprising really. They have huge rate of repeat offenders, at least in part because of the fact you basically lose rights once you get out. Which makes no sense by their logic. Why are you out if you aren't rehabilitated?
(DIR) Post #9rfphKA7jVOGd6NZuS by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-03T21:56:29.456573Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @histoire @surasanji also often maximum security prisons are ran by state and government - looks a lot worse when the government is directly involved in a slave labor and crime school system. So they parcel that out to private corporations.
(DIR) Post #9rfpnwukZCImYRLbVY by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T21:57:30.586182Z
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@a7 @nerdman @histoire @surasanji yes. american prisons are forced labor camps masquerading as rehabilitation institutes
(DIR) Post #9rfpsU3fHTOkVSgBuq by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-03T21:58:30.473413Z
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@histoire @fluffy @nerdman @surasanji i mean that brings up the whole thing, are they broken when they get there, or is the industrial prison system so fucked and lacking of any real effort that it just becomes a social club for people of a certain trade.
(DIR) Post #9rfq1P5D9CDZgOejbM by histoire@stereophonic.space
2020-02-03T21:59:56.213834Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @surasanji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012>in by "affirm[ing]" that the authority of the President under the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), a joint resolution passed in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks, includes the power to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person, including a U.S. citizen,[13][21] "who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners", and anyone who commits a "belligerent act" against the United States or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, "without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF]". The text authorizes trial by military tribunal,Without trial is the important part here
(DIR) Post #9rfqgzmxa711Ocx4i0 by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-03T22:07:26.530976Z
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@nerdman @fluffy @histoire @surasanji In the same way I would like to eventually abolish abortion. Women's bodily autonomy is important, but I believe eventually we will be able to perform safe fetal removal and incubation with artificial uteri, and this should completely replace abortion even if it is very expensive to support the rights of fetuses
(DIR) Post #9rfrgCU2zpoGQwI3bk by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-03T22:18:31.144930Z
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@siliconprophet @histoire @nerdman @surasanji >In the same way I would like to eventually abolish abortion.>abolishwe should introduce artificial wombs and abolish women giving birth because being preggo is frequently fatal and causes all sorts of issues
(DIR) Post #9rfsOHVHh3hSkCt8TI by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-03T22:26:28.038852Z
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@fluffy@siliconprophet @histoire @nerdman*Reads every post*... Vote Lobster in 2020?#Lobster2020
(DIR) Post #9rfsRVPAStdyj9Z4hk by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-03T22:27:03.347809Z
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@fluffy @histoire @nerdman @surasanji I like that idea. Plus also no more fetal alcohol syndrome.
(DIR) Post #9rfsUQONYhYm37aV6W by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-03T22:27:35.509721Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman no. Vote @Blobcrab and me instead
(DIR) Post #9rg5RPiysqPoVv7Qbg by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T00:52:39.294308Z
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@siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @nerdman In a more serious response to this- it would still require a procedure of some sort. The 'removal' of the fetus, therefore, would require the permission of the woman in question.It's the same problem. You're removing a woman's bodily autonomy, and that is bad and wrong.
(DIR) Post #9rg5lqS7DeknCVyLiq by lizzubee@blob.cat
2020-02-04T00:56:23.925023Z
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@MisterRogersSnapped @surasanji @histoire imagine having bones this post brought to you by the arthropod gang
(DIR) Post #9rg5nsNB3BfdjgdBWC by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T00:56:46.063402Z
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@lizzubee @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire Yeah, bones are super weird. Lobster doesn't fully understand them.
(DIR) Post #9rg5xMtmvP8T16PWz2 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T00:58:40.306054Z
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@surasanji @lizzubee @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire its like your shell but on the inside
(DIR) Post #9rg60BXVcCIQegKi3M by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T00:58:59.083560Z
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@a7 @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire @lizzubee ...So they are colored? Lobster thought bones were made of milk....
(DIR) Post #9rg6BxwZzO6Txpg2To by lizzubee@blob.cat
2020-02-04T01:01:06.912237Z
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@surasanji @a7 @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire I kinda just figured they were like sticks or something
(DIR) Post #9rg6F5L2x7Ltlbbnua by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T01:01:52.487717Z
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@surasanji @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire @lizzubee theres milk in the center, normally they are white
(DIR) Post #9rg6FxrsDHhEt3NmZk by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T01:01:50.066861Z
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@lizzubee @MisterRogersSnapped @a7 @histoire YEah, I guess that would make sense. Like sticks of dried, colored milk! Lobster thinks he understands now.
(DIR) Post #9rg6HP40aNHlWSkELY by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T01:02:01.773949Z
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@a7 @MisterRogersSnapped @histoire @lizzubee Oh.. you lost Lobster again.
(DIR) Post #9rgB5XYxewukB7Nwoa by MisterRogersSnapped@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-04T01:55:59.512452Z
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@surasanji @a7 @histoire @lizzubee I came here, read this conversation, decided I was too sober, took care of that, and came back to tell you how much I enjoy your goofy banter. Seriously.
(DIR) Post #9rgEsxSaSkVGY6exJQ by siliconprophet@order.life
2020-02-04T02:38:31.875908Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman I don't think they should be forcibly removed, but I do think that it makes that removal procedure a moral obligation over abortion
(DIR) Post #9rgFXrDMaXAl3H2bfU by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T02:45:54.321991Z
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@siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @nerdman It still would be up to the woman who would have the fetus removed. They would still need to be guaranteed their bodily autonomy. I would argue that it is immoral and unethical to REQUIRE the sacrifice of bodily autonomy in the name of anything else. If a woman doesn't or does want to perform a procedure she has that right. It doesn't matter how stupid, petty, or profound the reason is. There is never any point at which it is okay to sacrifice another human being's right to bodily autonomy.If you had a special kind of blood type that could save the lives of children who would otherwise die it is not the place of any outside force or philosophy to trump your bodily autonomy. No one should be "Guilting" you into donating your blood as that is terrible and wrong- and blood donation is something we can do right now. It doesn't involve a here-to un-invented sci-fi technology like an artificial womb.
(DIR) Post #9rgG73Qx9KY75IBGmu by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T02:52:28.379357Z
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@surasanji @siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @nerdman what about bodily autonomy of the fetus? What determines their lack of bodily autonomy? If its intelligence why are we allowed to eat meat and not kill toddlers at a whim?
(DIR) Post #9rgGhXoZffU7jad4eO by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T02:58:52.616706Z
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@a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet I think I've already mentioned a situation where that is put into action.IE: If you have a blood type that can save the lives of innocent children you can not be REQUIRED to give your blood to save their lives.It's yours. You don't need a good reason to not give your blood away, even if it could potentially save the lives of those children.The same would hold true for the fetus in this situation. The woman can not be FORCED to provide for the fetus. Her bodily autonomy is SACRED. It cannot and should not be sacrificed for anyone else- alive or potentially alive.
(DIR) Post #9rgGpWwqmDE1MbJAm0 by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T03:00:30.676972Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet this doesnt answer the question of the fetuses bodily autonomy, what determines the value of the women having to eat some more food, gain weight and give birth, over their life?
(DIR) Post #9rgH5NvQ5lA80pCPWC by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:03:11.298657Z
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@surasanji @a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet I think the difference would be that, in the case of an abortion, you're *actively* doing something to end another human life. Whereas, with giving blood, you aren't actively doing something.
(DIR) Post #9rgHCZ3d6H8mZ9Skb2 by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T03:04:28.845277Z
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@a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet IT doesn't matter, is my point. The Fetus' bodily autonomy would be separate from that of the woman's. If the woman chooses to maintain her right to autonomy and someone or something else dies from that decision it does not reflect whatsoever on the woman.She has the right to bodily autonomy. Period.
(DIR) Post #9rgHLqVrZSNbJE5uvw by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:06:09.443109Z
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@surasanji @a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet Couldn't you use that line of thinking to justify murder pretty easily?
(DIR) Post #9rgHNVey4brbDI98vQ by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T03:06:39.089007Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet ok, but why does that matter to the fetus? It just lost its life, it lost all possibilities to choices based on the decision of another, why is this just, you didnt take into account any factors of the fetus, at least in announcement to me, so basically what i can gather for this argument it perfectly ok if i kill some one for a loaf of bread if im hungry.
(DIR) Post #9rgHZiMiey3w5uQl4y by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:08:40.672267Z
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@Holot @surasanji @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet there is no real defensible position that abortion is not murder. we as a society just decide that it's fine in this case, the same way we decide it's fine in war and in self defense.
(DIR) Post #9rgHa544GToEUisghU by surasanji@blob.cat
2020-02-04T03:08:42.905271Z
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@a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet The fetus also was never asked to be conceived. IT was never given the choice to be created, or consulted on weather or not it wanted to exist.It is a very different thing to argue that you can kill someone for food than it is to say that a woman's right to her own bodily autonomy is sacred.this is a slippery slope argument and is not a logical argument.
(DIR) Post #9rgHdpwKRN3ykC3IUC by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T03:09:36.216850Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet you could say the same of a pig, so i can kill a toddler, its about the same intelligence of a pig and cant properly express that desire
(DIR) Post #9rgJ7WXlDgL3EHHRy4 by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:25:59.205473Z
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@surasanji @a7 @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet It is a perfectly logical argument.Abortion is often killing a human because they're inconvenient. People might want to try and dance around the word "inconvenient" and use something else that doesn't make them feel as bad, but that's what it tends to be.As such, why can't I kill any other human being because I find them inconvenient?
(DIR) Post #9rgJLbsACeNdoMXZTM by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:28:32.318841Z
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@Holot @surasanji @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet >Abortion is often killing a human because they're inconvenient. >...>As such, why can't I kill any other human being because I find them inconvenient?because we live in a socity which differentiates the two.Also I think you should read about moral nihilism. It explains precisely this paradox: this sort of "but why do two things which are the same thing have different moralities?"
(DIR) Post #9rgJS6K3u5YdzIgWlk by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:29:42.123728Z
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@fluffy @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji It's not that I don't understand, I'm just following the line of reasoning.
(DIR) Post #9rgJY7BnatZuPgghAu by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T03:30:58.706126Z
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@Holot @surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet it seems to be a common detail, ignoring why its ok to kill a fetus, if you compare it to the other realities of the world the answer of why falls apart, then it falls back to the inherent value of humans, the lack of a reality of over population and the real argument that intelligence is all that determines value and its undeniable that goes down a very slippery slope, no matter if you wanna avoid a slippery slope or not.
(DIR) Post #9rgJh4DlzzvdoWsbo0 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:32:25.002003Z
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@Holot @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji you are right, and he is full of shit, because this entire notion that it is possible to have a rigorous moral structure based on some abstract theory is bullshit.morals are based on feelings and are highly individual. what simply happened is that two groups of people had a power struggle and in this case the ones who wanted to legalize one form of killing won. It happens all the time that we legalize one form of killing or another.
(DIR) Post #9rgJmZni0wI3CjJcf2 by Lucky@kiwifarms.cc
2020-02-04T03:33:24.603861Z
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@a7 @Holot @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji I told my Chinese friend to stop eating bat soup and I regret it.soup.jpg
(DIR) Post #9rgJoC21MH9m44mSqu by a7@pleroma.mouse.services
2020-02-04T03:33:53.029218Z
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@fluffy @Holot @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji but even the different moralities dont make sense within nihilism. One morality just shows a lack of humanism, which would fall into Nietzsche’s definition of negative nihilism and positive nihilism. It comes back to humanism in all cases. The argument of overpopulation is null in void as well, there is no over population, only greed and manipulation, we can support another 4 billion at technology we came up with 40 years ago.
(DIR) Post #9rgJyckgrojJpgeGAK by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:35:34.423532Z
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@fluffy @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji It's something that's only going to become more of an issue, and I think the lack of religiosity in the West makes things worse.If morals are souley created by humans, why should I give a shit what anyone else thinks?A number of the current big named "New Atheists" want to believe that the "smart people" can come up with something and the "not-smart people" will just follow along with that. But everyone thinks they're the smart person.
(DIR) Post #9rgKDcwuPt5qmtW9KK by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:38:18.067917Z
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@a7 @Holot @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji it's a common detail because it is correctly pointing out what is a failing of moral relativism and moral objectivism:
(DIR) Post #9rgKH8egzS3NzWfgCO by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:38:56.134788Z
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@a7 @Holot @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji moral nihilism is a different thing entirely from nihilism proper.
(DIR) Post #9rgKmgrPrkS73PfSam by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T03:44:38.271578Z
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@Holot @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji >If morals are souley created by humans, why should I give a shit what anyone else thinks?essentially, because we live in a society.In a high trust society people care a great deal about what others think, which leads to less pooping on the sidewalk, but more conformist entrepreneurship.>A number of the current big named "New Atheists" want to believe that the "smart people" can come up with something and the "not-smart people" will just follow along with that. well. I don't know this "New Atheist" group and let me just say that name is pretty gay, but, it's absolutely the case that the intellectual elite set most if not all trends in the modern age. >But everyone thinks they're the smart person.I don't think I am particularly smart. So, not everyone. :smug2: but lots of retarded people think they are geniusesProbably you should just totally ignore these "New Atheists" it sounds like some silly youtube group like that will be forgotten in a few years.
(DIR) Post #9rgM4J1hJrYsIgRMuG by Holot@neckbeard.xyz
2020-02-04T03:59:01.189859Z
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@fluffy @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji The "New Atheists" are people like Sam Harris.>In a high trust...Will we be able to maintain that though? So far, it doesn't really seem like it.
(DIR) Post #9rgMRK5bX7aKG2F8c4 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2020-02-04T04:03:11.182901Z
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@Holot @a7 @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet @surasanji >maintaindepends on your criterion? probably we'll end up turning into some sort of cyberpunk dystopia. But much of that change would have happened anyway imhoi don't think anyone is truly capable of answering that question>sam harrisnever heard of him. sam is a fat man name.
(DIR) Post #9rgOXXxH5sLquIRUa8 by Ox@dickkickextremist.xyz
2020-02-04T04:26:43.000686Z
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@surasanji @siliconprophet @fluffy @histoire @nerdman thanks for being one of the only people on this website that doesn't consider women as second class humans
(DIR) Post #9rqVx2d0pa4yXOfTxg by Blobcrab@blob.cat
2020-02-09T01:36:52.264863Z
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@surasanji This is why you should vote for Crab #crab2020
(DIR) Post #9rqW0vWz9zSLgUhZWi by Blobcrab@blob.cat
2020-02-09T01:37:34.264836Z
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@surasanji @fluffy @histoire @nerdman @siliconprophet #crab2020