Post 9rRSo9b7WSdCeSWHMe by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
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(DIR) Post #9rMmCkJTasiwoLuIvQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T17:17:39.374821Z
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@Nobody Hey, downtown. Photos look like they were taken from the hills. There's a Japanese saying, "Even Mt. Fuji is ugly if you're close." This is how I feel about downtown. It's really pretty...from a distance.I had never seen that video. (I do know how to sing it, though.) It's amazing. Weird how the audience just...sits there. Like they don't know what is going on, maybe.
(DIR) Post #9rNEzvLABHmpuwvzQe by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T22:40:17.068608Z
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@Nobody No. It never was, though it was kinda smoggy in the 70s. But even during the riots, most of LA was completely untouched.
(DIR) Post #9rNFQFfpCm1IVd9XDE by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T22:45:02.560197Z
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@p @Nobody What about the parts with all the :eazye:
(DIR) Post #9rNFr5keCgb5YSCska by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T22:49:53.597776Z
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@oxbowcoda @Nobody I've run around such places by myself at night. They're cleaner than they used to be, but I'd be surprised if our per capita violent crime rates ever got to New York levels.
(DIR) Post #9rNG9cpJy83FLgEL3Y by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T22:53:14.547042Z
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@p @Nobody Since we're on the subject, is there actually some part of LA that's like trailer parks in the desert full of gun stores and meth labs and conspiratards or is that just a Rockstar fabrication? Cause that's the California I want to live in.
(DIR) Post #9rNGWb5WbD82cIlO0u by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T22:57:23.672211Z
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@Nobody @p The only thing I know about LA for sure is that it's the last place in America you want to end up going to prison in.
(DIR) Post #9rNL6Oow5R5uoMKb5s by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T23:48:41.101928Z
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@oxbowcoda @Nobody Oh, no, that's real. Gun stores, there are plenty of those everywhere, we're not New York or San Francisco. There are coyotes and wildcats and shit inside the city limits of LA proper, and the metro area has plenty of that kind of thing; Monrovia is infested with bears. You're not going to get the gun stores shut down by voters that have seen a bear recently. Meth labs are obviously not quite as common, they tend to be in lower-income areas and very small scale but most meth production is done at industrial scale far away from big cities. (Breaking Bad was correct about this detail. It's all big labs run by cartels.) Trailer parks are smaller here but there are plenty in LA. LA has less desert than you'd expect (the reason there is a city here is that this is a pretty fertile valley near parts of the coast that lend themselves to port construction), but you can get all of the above by crossing the mountains.The outskirts of the Lancaster/Palmdale area is the closest stronghold for meth'd up desert rats with guns, and they keep getting shat on by the LA County board of supervisors. The board basically makes decisions based on problems people have in the ghetto, then gubbamint drones enforce this stuff up in the desert. So you've got a trailer sitting on ten acres of sand in the middle of nowhere and some dickhead from the county comes in and says you can't use a septic tank, the statues you welded out of broken cars aren't up to code and create a safety hazard, you didn't get a construction permit for your tool shed, and you've gotta pay a fine and move out of your place until you bring it up to code.Not too far from LA are the counties of Riverside and San Bernardino, those areas are inland from here (I think about an hour east from where I live) but they are basically exactly what you'd expect from stereotypical southwestern regions, and they fit the bill completely. I'm going to mention the meth-desert show again: if you watched Breaking Bad, you have a reasonable idea of what those places are like. (I kept forgetting that the show was set in Albuquerque.)
(DIR) Post #9rNLAutCnUsfQgTxce by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T23:49:30.085514Z
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@Nobody @oxbowcoda I'm completely certain.
(DIR) Post #9rNLZFe9H4SSky2k9g by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-25T23:53:53.954067Z
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@p @Nobody This is such entertaining reading. You should consider self-publishing a @p 's Guide to Southern California.
(DIR) Post #9rNNcDRw6C5sigs91k by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:16:50.696338Z
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@oxbowcoda @Nobody Ha, I don't know if I could fill a whole guide.
(DIR) Post #9rNO0kpxcI3xDeoJ8q by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:21:16.783354Z
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@p @Nobody I'll bet a beer-fueled brainstorm session with good company would get an awesome table of contents fleshed out in no time at all. I've failed to start writing at least a dozen novels in this fashion.
(DIR) Post #9rNOKjAJXdwRpHr2kC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:24:53.363743Z
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@SandiaMesa @Nobody @oxbowcoda That's cool. I was initially surprised they filmed on-location, but Vince Gilligan is pretty cool, he's got that kind of obsessive personality that makes him produce interesting stuff.I don't know if you've seen this map, I have been waving it around at people lately. The circled "No-go zone" is where most people stay in LA. It's a really small part of the city and it's also the worst part of the city, so they get a strange impression of LA.los_angeles_annotated.png
(DIR) Post #9rNOYygQdvIG0afetM by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:27:27.892207Z
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@p @SandiaMesa @Nobody OH so Orange County is like Ze Ethnostate.
(DIR) Post #9rNOyBAZMBW3yOmmjQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:32:01.164427Z
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@oxbowcoda @Nobody Ha, I think I'd have to structure it as if I were writing "Fear and Loathing in Los Angeles".
(DIR) Post #9rNPTkSIDNVaO584Ya by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:37:43.484303Z
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@oxbowcoda @Nobody @SandiaMesa Kind of like some racist suburbs, Irvine is one of the weirdest places I've been. All the roads are extremely broad but also empty, and you can't tell what part of Irvine you're in because the entire city is (by law) beige and Soviet brutalist. (It might be the home to the only beige Wal-Mart in existence.) It's a horrifying place.
(DIR) Post #9rNPjEs1PmVL3sYAwS by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T00:40:31.445578Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa Jesus.
(DIR) Post #9rNX7nm1znunwRPLJg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T02:03:23.922122Z
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@Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda :alexjonessmug:
(DIR) Post #9rNksDzW9PFRykBMky by chuculate@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T04:37:27.221229Z
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@p Can you tell me more about the "Not in my backyard"-ners?
(DIR) Post #9rNkvVXZMM6bH8fvW4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T04:38:02.822377Z
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@chuculate The ones in Orange County, Pasadena, or Beverly Hills?
(DIR) Post #9rON89qP8KRA0awbb6 by chuculate@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-26T11:46:07.432890Z
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@p The Beverly Hills ones. I didn't know about the others. I couldn't even find OC on the map.
(DIR) Post #9rPgHkUQLeQwYWuTbM by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T02:55:27.851137Z
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@chuculate Lower-right corner, just part of Orange County is involved.Beverly Hills residents do their damnedest to make sure no train tracks or bus stops or freeways get anywhere close to Rodeo Drive, and they don't even want the surface streets leading in to get any wider. The reason for this is they want it to be difficult to get there, but they always come up with other excuses. When :elon: wanted to drill under them, the excuse was something about fumes under the high school, they had a big protest.
(DIR) Post #9rR48zPg5ODwIA0Qsa by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T18:57:30.766431Z
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@chuculate It was here, then.
(DIR) Post #9rR6TMv2bKq4tUWMyW by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
2020-01-27T19:23:36.170325Z
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@p @oxbowcoda @Nobody @SandiaMesa What is a "racist suburb"? Minorities are shot on sight in case of trespassing?
(DIR) Post #9rR6oSNbUfHbuYw8S8 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T19:27:25.033088Z
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@deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda It's a suburb, there are a bunch of racist-ass boomers.
(DIR) Post #9rR7vocVIqBcryykfQ by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
2020-01-27T19:39:57.023692Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda How are these people racist, are they doing something to make life worse for non-white people in the city? Or you just think that boomers are likely to be racist therefore a boomer neighborhood is racist?You are kinda sounding like a BLM activist with this "racist suburbs" talk tbh
(DIR) Post #9rR8DCkErQu0c8t9O4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T19:43:05.689206Z
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@deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda I mean that that region is full of two things: people that hate Mexicans, and Mexicans. I don't know what you want clarified.> You are kinda sounding like a BLM activistok boomeroki_doki_boomer.mp4
(DIR) Post #9rR9P5dvBunc18AI2i by Grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T19:56:26.870130Z
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@p @oxbowcoda @Nobody i think LA County wants those desert areas for solar and wind farms and that's why they've suddenly decided that those seemingly useless lots that nobody wanted 20 years ago need to be brought up to urban code and hooked into city utilities, even if it means the owners need to lay miles and miles of sewer lines to reach the nearest place to hook into the city system. That would cost tens of thousands of dollars, much more than the market value of the land itself, so the desert rats are effectively forced out of their trailer homes and tumbleweed farms. Then the County quietly buys the land back. On the surface it looks like simple incompetence and government overreach, but there's definitely an underlying motive.
(DIR) Post #9rR9VeTiaRTBnLWO92 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T19:57:38.020953Z
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@Grandtheftautism @Nobody @oxbowcoda That had not occurred to me and I feel completely foolish.
(DIR) Post #9rR9uhhZjsJt22wsr2 by Grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:02:09.676481Z
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@p @Nobody @oxbowcoda it took me several years to put it together so don't feel bad. The other shoe didn't drop for me until Garcetti announced he wasn't going to fix the coal plants:https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-garcetti-dwp-gas-plants-20190212-story.htmlWe're going to need a fuckton of windmills, lads
(DIR) Post #9rR9zeVp1cKeaUoKem by Jojothegoodperson@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:03:03.315109Z
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@Grandtheftautism @p @Nobody @oxbowcoda Wanna talk using Microsoft word?
(DIR) Post #9rRA4SUN9gEskIQNlo by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:03:55.452402Z
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@Grandtheftautism @Nobody @oxbowcoda Oh, that fucker, man. Surely the poop castles won't ruin his shot at the presidency if only he can make windmills.there-were-is-mill-tattoo.jpg
(DIR) Post #9rRA9OeCrfvQHPNYa8 by Grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:04:49.000823Z
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@p @Nobody @oxbowcoda sorry, the gas plants, the coal plants went a while back
(DIR) Post #9rRAJsLDJqx3GjUZDk by Grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:06:42.630370Z
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@Jojothegoodperson @Nobody @oxbowcoda @p unfortunately i have stuff to do, i just had time to share my theory on LA County land grabs and deceit but now i gotta go
(DIR) Post #9rRANwyy0OU4p01sAa by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:07:26.811077Z
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@Grandtheftautism @Jojothegoodperson @Nobody @oxbowcoda :dbcooper2: Good luck.
(DIR) Post #9rRB8aT3X3KmbVLDwO by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
2020-01-27T20:15:52.280130Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda I have never seen an accusation that American suburbs are racist that was not in the middle of an accusation that Americans in general are racist, so that's where me asking for clarification comes from. Those counties voted for Hillary by the way, they actually want more Mexicans
(DIR) Post #9rRCvy7CV3HC5aEHfU by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:36:00.285960Z
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@deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda I didn't say all the suburbs were racist, just that this particular area is suburban and racist. You want to say that no suburbs have any racists in them? If I see a suburb and there are a lot of racists is that an inappropriate way to characterize it, or should I worry that it'll sound too close to something someone else said? :takeiteasy2: Take it easy.> Those counties voted for Hillary by the wayOrange County votes red by a bigger margin than some entire states, but being full of Stepford wives, voted for Clinton in 2016 because Trump is unseemly.This whole "Everyone that voted for Clinton liked every plank in her entire platform and hated every plank in Trump's" assumption is as dumb as the converse.
(DIR) Post #9rRDvIOLj64kdlUfFQ by l0wk3y@dickkickextremist.xyz
2020-01-27T20:47:04.034917Z
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@p @deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda I live in a suburb and we have lots of racists.They're called cops.
(DIR) Post #9rRDxrDBEocHDAUUPg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T20:47:33.067490Z
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@l0wk3y @Nobody @SandiaMesa @deadheat @oxbowcoda :dorner: Chris Dorner did nothing wrong. :dorner:
(DIR) Post #9rRE26BVViY2o8jMoq by l0wk3y@dickkickextremist.xyz
2020-01-27T20:48:18.771575Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa @deadheat @oxbowcoda Heh, even minority cops are racist, it's weird.
(DIR) Post #9rRNDCvZgCX6UfeNGq by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
2020-01-27T22:31:09.826273Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda > You want to say that no suburbs have any racists in them?Very low quality strawman. Sad!> If I see a suburb and there are a lot of racists is that an inappropriate way to characterize it, or should I worry that it'll sound too close to something someone else said?I was talking about the generalization. If you think that just this particular suburb is racist and not suburbs in general then the point has been clarified.However, you said that they hated Mexicans without giving any example about how this attitude manifests in the world. I'm guessing you have many boomer friends from Orange County who have told you how much they hate Mexicans, or some similar personal experience.>Stepford wivesStepford wives = soccer moms? Isn't this just a female boomer?>This whole "Everyone that voted for Clinton liked every plank in her entire platform and hated every plank in Trump's" assumption is as dumb as the converse.The attitude towards immigration and migrants was a massive issue in the 2016 presidential election. If a county voted for Clinton then yeah, I think it's safe to say that it's not high in their priorities to have a neighborhood with less Mexicans.
(DIR) Post #9rRPk5F1Th6o7TYEtM by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T22:59:31.334435Z
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@deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda > > You want to say that no suburbs have any racists in them?> Very low quality strawman. Sad!Well, that's the thing. If an area is suburban and racist, I don't know how you prefer I describe that.> If you think that just this particular suburb is racist and not suburbs in generalThat's what I said. You ran off with it because apparently BLM hates the suburbs. I don't know why they would, but I am not in the business of staying up to date on their antics.> you said that they hated Mexicans without giving any example about how this attitude manifests in the world.In my experience, people down there are pretty racist.> Stepford wives = soccer moms? Isn't this just a female boomer?No, maybe you missed the cultural reference. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives ) It's an expression for ultra-domesticated, extremely uptight, robotic housewives.> If a county voted for Clinton then yeah, I think it's safe to say that it's not high in their priorities to have a neighborhood with less Mexicans.It might be safe to say in the absence of other information. Here is your information in the case of that region: Irvine, the main population center of Orange County, is populated entirely by people that do not mind living in a city where the law forbids buildings to be painted any color besides beige. They lean red because they like Order. In the 2016 election, Clinton was the conservative candidate, Trump was promising to shake things up.
(DIR) Post #9rRSo9b7WSdCeSWHMe by oxbowcoda@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-27T23:33:52.371984Z
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@p @deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa A hue offended on behalf of Socal yuppy rejects itt.
(DIR) Post #9rRTu5oYbM4mbrCU52 by deadheat@kiwifarms.cc
2020-01-27T23:46:08.852786Z
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@p @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda >Irvine, the main population center of Orange County, is populated entirely by people that do not mind living in a city where the law forbids buildings to be painted any color besides beige.These people are rich, aren't they? Don't they feel like using their resources to give more personality to their properties? What the hell...>In the 2016 election, Clinton was the conservative candidateI think you are mistaking conservative with conformist here. A person who just want things to stay as they are is a conformist, but a conservative in a very progressive environment will promote radical change.It's interesting that Orange County flipped completely blue in 2018. I bet these people were neoliberals voting for very progressive Republicans, until the Dems decided to consolidate their control over the region.image.png
(DIR) Post #9rRcQZpXL1qMbNevfU by p@freespeechextremist.com
2020-01-28T01:21:39.730952Z
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@deadheat @Nobody @SandiaMesa @oxbowcoda > Don't they feel like using their resources to give more personality to their properties?There is the sort of person that would rather have no personality for their own place than have to cope with seeing their neighbors' personality out the window.> I think you are mistaking conservative with conformist here.I meant what I wrote. She was the candidate offering to stay the course of the previous three administrations, Trump was promising the opposite; I wasn't using "conservative" as a vague synonym for "Republican".> It's interesting that Orange County flipped completely blue in 2018.It happens. Different people show up to the polls in midterms, there are a lot of college students there, and everyone was still freaking out about Trump.