Post 9rOi0BO5br39W2jrBA by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #9rOi0AXyjbMkuQMExE by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T14:40:55Z
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Why this Coronavirus is going to spread like wildfire through China, but dissipate in Hong Kong: If you have not had to deal with a mainland hospital, you have no idea how the combination of communism and cultures leads to a hellish experience. At work, if we needed non-life-threatening emergency services (i.e. broken leg) we'd go to the private Beijing hospital. It was terrible. I was playing rugby with my mates and hit the ground hard. My head hit harder and I had a bit of a scare.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0AnDovYjfhUPiK by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T14:46:01Z
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My mates called for an ambulance and finally a beautiful Beijing ambulance drove onto the pitch. A man got out wearing a white coat and a stethoscope. No partner. He gets the backboard and gurney out of the back. My mates start giving him a run down and he responded that he was not a doctor just the driver. Apparently the uniform for drivers is straight out of TV shows. I get loaded in and notice that the ambulance is bare. No machines, nothing to even lock the gurney into place.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0B3ArcJsTAx9Zw by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T14:54:13Z
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I bounced the entire ride to Beijing United. If I didn't have a broken neck before, I was nervous I would have one now! Finally get there and after waiting forever I get an X-ray and then a CT. At this point my vision is better but my headache is getting worse. The doctor (the guy in scrubs-who know actual credentials) says that there is an abnormality with my brain. This is not my first rodeo with scans thanks to rugby and so I was surprised at how swollen my right hemisphere was but...
(DIR) Post #9rOi0BO5br39W2jrBA by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T14:58:41Z
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there was something odd about how the dividing line between hemispheres was slanted. Then my jostled brain realized that the scan was wrong. I must have been placed in the scan slightly cockeyed because the scan scanned the wrong thing. A friend of mine had the awful experience of having a heart attack in Shanghai. Thankfully they did a solid bypass on him. He just found it odd that he woke up in his tracksuit It was cut down the center and covered in his blood, but he was alive.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0BWx4u8fxWsvzc by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:03:06Z
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I must stress that these are the fancy hospitals. They are foreigner hospitals where you pay for procedures. The public hospitals are meat markets. You see people stand in line for hours waiting to register with their registration cards. Imagine having the virus while standing in line with other sick people? Probably happening now. Once you are registered, you wait in more lines to check in and then more lines to get to your procedure. And it gets better/worse, ask me about nurses!
(DIR) Post #9rOi0BgAWdVmQ7CIMK by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:07:13Z
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There aren't any! Well, not the type you think of. They are more dispensers of meds. Your family cares for you in the hospital. They bring your food and bowls, your bed clothing, and even your bed pan. Yes, grandma will have to wipe your ass if you cannot. Your family are the bedside manner you get while in hospital. Want good nurses to help you recuperate? Go to Hong Kong or Thailand. This is how Thailand makes its money. Great medical care for low cost. Most rich Chinese go there.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0Brrp8rx0Ofdaq by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:11:18Z
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My point is that if people in Wuhan are sick enough to go to hospital, they are dragging most of their family with them and exposing everyone in lines to it. All of their family will come in contact with it and once the entire family gets sick the rest of the community will come to help.Mainland China does not have the medical infrastructure in place to handle a real quarantine. They do not have staff ready to handle bodily fluids in large amounts nor the training how to interact with seclusion
(DIR) Post #9rOi0CC4c124147m5Y by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:15:15Z
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And this will spook families away from regulated medical care. If the person feels like they are going to die, they will die at home with their family. Otherwise, they will die potentially from neglect or dehydration due to staff forgetting the person needs water, and then their body is quickly disposed of to cover up the mistake. You won't see this in Hong Kong, unless the Mainland decides to take over. They have Western personal space and individual care in hospitals.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0CMLznFuWwvz72 by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:17:47Z
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I'm less worried about the US except that we got this today.
(DIR) Post #9rOi0CYPGytf8KZbto by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:39:56Z
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@WillingToBeConvinced Your entire thread, predicated on a false rumor, amounts to a conspiracy theory.What did you get today? Where from? Where's the link to DOS notification?You are wasting oxygen in this place. Read our rules, abide by them, and consider this that warning we mention in them.
(DIR) Post #9rOiPw6b3CxzeFpw8G by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:44:37Z
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@Debradelai Here's the email not from a phone.
(DIR) Post #9rOjCMLylR0UxI7btI by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T15:53:22Z
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@WillingToBeConvinced Oh, you mean the arrengments facilitated by State for VOLUNTARY repatriation at the interested party expense?Really? THAT is "what you heard today" that worries you?It's all over the news. It's normal procedure to assist hysterical morons who can pay, ant it means nothing.I believe you are not doing this on purpose, just your natural limits, but the warning stands.https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/state-department-to-move-personnel-from-china-to-u-s-in-a-one-time-flight-to-san-francisco/2220955/
(DIR) Post #9rOk6jcTRrrxKXidKS by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T16:03:33Z
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@Debradelai Ok, but that wasn't my point. I do think that it will do a number on the Mainland. The voluntary part as I'm reading it is for the extra seats. From the article "The single flight is being arranged to transport personnel, but a limited number of passport-carrying private U.S. citizens may be allowed to board the reimbursable flight on Jan. 28, officials said" Happy to be corrected.
(DIR) Post #9rOlnPYe0t3BW3qDOi by WillingToBeConvinced@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T16:07:42Z
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@Debradelai Mainland CHINA, not Mainland USA.
(DIR) Post #9rOlnPtujo42a1nCYC by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2020-01-26T16:22:28Z
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@WillingToBeConvinced Listen, moron. The point is self-explanatory. You are making up a storm in a tea-pot, just like the idiots were doing a decade ago with the avian flu.You've been warned. Stay away from conspiracy theories.Now, kindly, piss off.