Post 9qbk0wAWfMCcFEVypk by ned@noagendasocial.com
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(DIR) Post #9qYkk6WGRkJxu5L9nM by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-01T14:05:41Z
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(DIR) Post #9qYsMBT5C9u5w1xOtM by harvhat@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-01T15:31:00Z
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@Dan_Ramos We didn't know how good we had it back in the 2019's when people couldn't alter documents!
(DIR) Post #9qYvJq65yoTKwDmKTQ by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-01T16:04:11Z
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@harvhat https://youtu.be/NrgmdOz227I
(DIR) Post #9qbHxpMOj4yFXjnRya by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T18:40:43Z
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@harvhat @Dan_Ramos this has been driving me nuts for years. The only good unambiguous date formats are:2 Jan/January 2020; and2020-01-02I once had a small package of ground coffee with a label like "Expires 04 05 06". I called the vendor's help line and they couldn't tell me how do decode it and couldn't escalate and call me back.Middle endian dates trigger me, hard.
(DIR) Post #9qbHxpi1QgGgcnuigK by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T19:27:21Z
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@progo @harvhat Yeah, I always preferred YYYY/MM/DD format myself but NOBODY DOES THIS!! I hate that! It even numerically sorts beautifully by actual linear time!
(DIR) Post #9qbIIMuRhVbHNyW7Hc by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T19:31:04Z
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@Dan_Ramos I completely agree with your YYYY/MM/DD. Propably the only format that sorts properly on computerized devices. For the rest of the world YYYY-MM-DD works better.@progo @harvhat
(DIR) Post #9qbNKfdxWCZHq2irLM by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:27:31Z
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@MartinJJ @progo @harvhat Funny enough, I always use dashes myself as a preference too.. so... I'd rather do that too!
(DIR) Post #9qbNh5sudQRXawPQdE by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:31:34Z
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@Dan_Ramos You are so un-American 😜 @progo @harvhat
(DIR) Post #9qbNkPbJmqlrc1lHo8 by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:32:10Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @harvhat just make it big endian or little endian with four digit years, and no one gets hurt.
(DIR) Post #9qbOZGpW9maRB7eeBc by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:41:21Z
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@progo @Dan_Ramos @harvhat In the past I always had huge troubles sorting data in Windows systems and within databases using the european date format like dd-mm-yyyy. Archives always became a mess over the years. It just doesn't work on computers. yyyy-mm-dd format is the only one that works.
(DIR) Post #9qbOiTHZEDhwPBA62i by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:43:01Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @harvhat Ever imported text into MS Access? You can't TELL it a date format; you choose one from the list. This hasn't been improved in over 20 years.I love Access but the fact that it's rather expensive abandonware angers me.
(DIR) Post #9qbQDQwy38686Rr2B6 by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T20:59:49Z
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@progo @Dan_Ramos @harvhat I've used MsAccess a lot in the past. Mostly with VBA (now deactivated if I heard correctly). The standard import wizard for csv files wasn't all that great, but you can quickly reformat it all with building your own queries or changing the format in the tables. If importing was required I preferred using the more flexible Excel. It's just average users don't want to use weird formats, only what they know. Downside of MsAccess was you could not create runtime versions.
(DIR) Post #9qbQOaX0laVf0L24nI by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:01:50Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @harvhat I thought Access did have some sort of "publish as a canned application" since the early 2000s or earlier. It required a runtime library that you as an Access licensee were licensed to redistribute; it didn't require MS Office installed in the target system.
(DIR) Post #9qbRJEdUqUSxbT4qUS by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:12:04Z
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@progo @Dan_Ramos @harvhat I've never heard of that and I definiately have been searching for such options back then. You always needed MsAccess installed thus a license. I believe there was a stripped version, but I never had any use for that. I've seen all versions up to about ten years ago. Far in the past I started with dBase 3 and 4 creations. For that a compiler called Clipper could be used to create executables. I have never found such a thing for MsAccess.
(DIR) Post #9qbRgGE16UZrBy8f20 by ned@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:16:14Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat you can't use "/" in a Windows file name. Personally I prefer YYYYMMDD. No one knows what it means, but it sorts properly and is quick to type.
(DIR) Post #9qbRixEUApBH9mdtRo by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:16:43Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @harvhat Looks like it was available to the developer with a separate licensed product to go with Access 2003 and starting with Access 2007 the "Access runtime" was available to developers and end-users gratis.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Access#Microsoft_Access_Runtime
(DIR) Post #9qbTGvrBtXWkgqVoqO by progo@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:17:54Z
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@MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @harvhat TLDR on the Access runtime capabilities: you can change the data but not the the application code and design.
(DIR) Post #9qbTGw8updhnZonyTI by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T21:34:04Z
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@progo @Dan_Ramos @harvhat I never had developer access. Also all machines already had Office Pro versions installed, so MsAccess was already included. I often created full screen applications to basically hide MsAccess from the users as most really had no clue what it was. Sometimes that created new problems like getting stuck in Windows and I rather would have had executable versions. Also because they would have been a lot faster on those machines.
(DIR) Post #9qbYHnrdb49rxexKRU by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:30:15Z
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@MartinJJ @progo @harvhat FYI:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
(DIR) Post #9qbYLhu9hBxqdXzkxs by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:30:57Z
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@ned @MartinJJ @progo @harvhat I usually used dashes (-) as separators.
(DIR) Post #9qbYuLwDMLuodxTjOK by raintrees@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:37:13Z
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@ned @MartinJJ @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat Easiest way to get a computer file system to chronologically sort for you. Based on format string (i.e. printf, etc.) Y=Year, M=Month, D=Day, but you probably already knew that and were just trolling us pedantic types ;)
(DIR) Post #9qbZ1Bftuqncq96gpU by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:38:27Z
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@Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat As an "imperialist" it's nice to see you follow ISO standards. I bet the Metric system is too much to ask? 😎
(DIR) Post #9qbZFER8RbWNSZthEu by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:41:00Z
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@MartinJJ @progo @harvhat Despite the fact that I'm solidly USED to imperial, I don't understand why we're not already using metric. It makes way more sense to me. So... yeah. Not a very good American by these standards. heh
(DIR) Post #9qbZeQ46LZD2lT8MCG by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:45:32Z
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@Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat Gallons, inches and stones are not much of a system indeed. I think most countries on the planet already abandoned such and switched to much easier Metric.
(DIR) Post #9qbZuxbBRBi1OtUkZE by sirphenom@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:48:30Z
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@Dan_Ramos Back in the 70’s I remember learning the metric system in elementary school... all that remains is the 2 liter bottle of soda 🤨 @MartinJJ @progo @harvhat
(DIR) Post #9qba8PdUVV6S7YzMx6 by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:50:58Z
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@sirphenom @MartinJJ @progo @harvhat Yeah! I remember they had a hard push to switch back when I was a kid and I was perfectly fine with it! ...And then they just sort of abandoned it after a while. It was stupid. Should have kept to it and I think everyone would have been better off for it.
(DIR) Post #9qbaX1ubqhWDmYjaUq by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:55:24Z
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@sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat Metric is all based on factors of 10 and comparable standard units (SI). It's often quite easy to calculate from Kilogram to Liters and other (decimal) units.
(DIR) Post #9qbakmY5lXLQBjl9KC by Dan_Ramos@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T22:57:53Z
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@MartinJJ @sirphenom @progo @harvhat I know. I also do programming so I'm quite familiar with kilo, mega, giga, etc. (even though there's that whole tens vs base-2 issue in computing to deal with).
(DIR) Post #9qbbna6iZysCQNr1Um by Viking@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T23:05:28Z
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@sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @MartinJJ @progo @harvhat There is indeed one place the US uses the metric system, for blood tests, for example blood sugar or cholesterol. The ironic thing is that the Europeans use chemical units mMolar = 0.001 Mol / liter, whereas the American doctors use mg/ml or some multiple of that.@Johncdvorak
(DIR) Post #9qbbnaQDPUT9Oqyasy by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T23:09:36Z
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@Viking @sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat @Johncdvorak I was not aware of that. Why would that be? International connections or so?
(DIR) Post #9qbcJoPEx6rk2Pt1l2 by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T23:15:26Z
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@Dan_Ramos @sirphenom @progo @harvhat Yeah, hex and binary stuff does not really fit in very well with the Decimal and Metric. Stupid computers! 😉
(DIR) Post #9qbfI4PEnGnwwbkKno by sirphenom@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T23:48:44Z
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@Dan_Ramos Agree - I remember people freaking out over the price of a liter of gas as compared to a gallon... people seemed to have adapted to HD TV ok and that was, um, forced on them@MartinJJ @progo @harvhat
(DIR) Post #9qbgH7McPYgrmYdBi4 by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-02T23:59:46Z
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@sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat The fuelprice for standard fuel is currently €1.63 per Liter at my location. It has been around €1.88 before. Now convert that to Dollars per Gallon. Most americans will still be shocked. Best not drive your V6 or V8 overhere. You will most likely go bankrupt pretty quickly.
(DIR) Post #9qbjje0AxOxYyhQZs0 by ned@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-03T00:38:32Z
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@MartinJJ @sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat my God! That is expensive. Our fancy expensive 98% octane stuff hit $2AUD for the first time last week
(DIR) Post #9qbk0wAWfMCcFEVypk by ned@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-03T00:41:39Z
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@MartinJJ @sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat my God! That is expensive. Our fancy expensive 98% octane stuff hit $2AUD for the first time last week. Currently we are averaging around $1.40AUD for the 10% ethanol stuff.
(DIR) Post #9qbkWoXCaMRhpmJzW4 by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2020-01-03T00:47:25Z
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@ned @sirphenom @Dan_Ramos @progo @harvhat This is Euro95/E10 or 95 octane with 10% ethanol. The most commonly used one here. Looks like only €0,87/Liter. Sent me a boatload please.
(DIR) Post #9qdDGCn4F0Xny68QDI by Calcifer@social.bau-ha.us
2020-01-03T17:44:02Z
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@Dan_Ramos another reason to use y-m-d instead, too! @vfrmedia