Post 9qWWq5WRHOissFSf6O by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
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 (DIR) Post #9qWWq5WRHOissFSf6O by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:20:24Z
       
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       #36c3 "Maya (menstruation tracking app) started sharing data with Facebook -before- you get to agree to their privacy policy"  :blobglare: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10693-no_body_s_business_but_mine_a_dive_into_menstruation_apps
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWXiY4tKIF34jXqVc by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:30:15Z
       
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       I mean... it sounds odd but you could really, willingly, voluntarily and fully informed ACCEPT that those ultra-personal informations get recorded by Facebook and a bunch of data brokers.However: any app should at least get your consent before exporting that.
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWYTwR8ZvkEEWY652 by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
       2019-12-31T12:38:53.843099Z
       
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       @AkaiHebi why would you need an app for your period though...Roma_1577796107251_9CXL6OSUCC.j…
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWYnpfzQJFh3dyrui by daniel5555@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:42:27Z
       
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       @AkaiHebi The root of the problem is that data is actually meant to be shared by the app creators with those data brokers at all, because that's the usual route to monetize them.The laws should have forbidden by default the data exchange with 3rd parties. And a consent to share the data should be an actually written consent (like written by using keyboard), which can be straightforwardly revoked at any time.It's unrealistic to read all those privacy policies that often don't even list all the parties you implicitly consent to share your data with.
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWYtKaRvSR8ND0l7Y by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:43:26Z
       
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       @Elfie Interestingly, that's a very question some apps ask their new user about, to "tailor the experience".Is it to track their menstruation cycle? To plan accordingly for menstruation/spotting/cramps? To know their peak fertility? to try for pregnancy? To measure the impact of hormones?(some apps import "useful tips" articles for subjects like unprotected sex, masturbation, smoking habits, alcohol and other more or less random stuff)
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWZ4nNbDPcarFT2Iq by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:45:32Z
       
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       @daniel5555 But: do the creators also have to code the data processing algorithms in-house? Or can they rely on a third-party software they host?It's a nightmare.
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWZJGve9Iq0YbIOPI by Elfie@neckbeard.xyz
       2019-12-31T12:48:10.540112Z
       
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       @AkaiHebi Seems like a cash grab to meThe overcomplication of mundune concept because X is trendyLike a app for your shoes...
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWZSh9K1ymOU8BYno by daniel5555@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:49:50Z
       
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       @AkaiHebi I'm not sure what do you mean...If they're using some third-party software that just processes the data, but this data doesn't go anywhere outside the creator's infrastructure, then it's OK. If data must be sent somewhere else for processing, like inside a third-party cloud, a consent must be given to this... Because you can hardly audit something like this, so both creators and users must trust the third-party cloud.
       
 (DIR) Post #9qWZdixxcI71Iy893Y by AkaiHebi@niu.moe
       2019-12-31T12:51:48Z
       
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       @Elfie yes I feel quite a lot of companies profit directly about the lack or weakness of sex education and planned parenthood...and the stigma too: I imagine for many people it's much easier to get information through an app than, say, a family member. No-thanks menstruation being actually portrayed as a "curse" and "symbol of impurity" in major monotheistic religions..