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(DIR) Post #9pg0wNjEQQEOeZYUxU by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-06T04:18:02Z
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How about all the women who are enablers? Kill them also?
(DIR) Post #9pg1mx9Ty0fbZjtyq0 by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:26:17Z
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@ranjona how and why you term women as enablers
(DIR) Post #9pg1mxON4ea0Jurs2q by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-06T04:27:29Z
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@st_in When abuse happens within the home, the mother often knows and protects the abuser. This is well-documented.
(DIR) Post #9pg1nWGRQ826TSQX2m by wabbster@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:21:38Z
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@ranjona Kill everyone. We're all guilty of something or the other anyway.
(DIR) Post #9pg2XLq8VferSryebw by Lakshmi_sreeni@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:35:13Z
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@ranjona @st_in Its true. The mother knows, my mother knew the abuser for years, before it was all put to an end
(DIR) Post #9pg2XMDB805ccKl3Wi by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-06T04:35:55Z
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@Lakshmi_sreeni @st_in OMG, how awful!
(DIR) Post #9pg2i4nIE5VzmclH0K by Lakshmi_sreeni@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:37:08Z
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@ranjona @st_in women are enablers, silence is the biggest form of violence. Inaction is participation.
(DIR) Post #9pg2ma9Fatr8BWBFSq by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:36:15Z
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@ranjona so lets change the mindsets and follow the natural nature why can't we make a simple living with least restrictions which accepts anything and everything unless and until its not against nature persons and nation
(DIR) Post #9pg2maGh9DoKYbfC4G by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-06T04:38:41Z
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@st_in You have a justice system to deal with aberrations. If you dont respect that, you are left with lawlessness.
(DIR) Post #9pg3al6f7rHseNtbqS by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:42:26Z
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@Lakshmi_sreeni @ranjona taking wrong side can be an enabling act but how you can say all women takes wrong side by calling them enablers. to end this kind of situation i think better opt for a living which respects and give space for everything which is not against nature and existence
(DIR) Post #9pg3alPnygbFbkqtgO by Lakshmi_sreeni@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T04:47:14Z
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@st_in @ranjona as i said, when women donot take action, it is still being on the wrong side, one is being a complicit by being silent. Especially, when the abuse occurs within the boundaries of homes. This is also the case when abuse happens at workplace, most women dont raise alarm or support the victim. Isnt that enablement?
(DIR) Post #9pg5Om2u0VsRzsYAgy by KayKap@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T05:04:05Z
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@st_in @ranjona When a woman stands by without protesting, when a woman sells another/girl into the sex trade; when a woman advocates rape as a punishment/lesson for those who don't meet her standards of morality and more these women are enablers. Sometimes actively, sometimes passively because of fear... but should we kill them... NO! These we need to educate, change mindsets... maybe offer other jobs 2 make ends meet, societal changes
(DIR) Post #9pgiYRr7pAQiUGe5C4 by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T09:08:07Z
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@st_in a) There is nothing simple anymore in the society.b) Humans are way too complex and varied, that's why there is rules.If no rules, things will go as per each person's perspectives and definition and thats a whole of arguments there.c) even wild animals who follow nature for all purposes have certain set rules in their own groups.d) we are unable to get sanghis to see how wrong their thinking is... And u expect...What are you even getting at ?? 🤔@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYS8qlGblNEwEoy by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:10:53Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona here issue is a rape & impacts of it.if we live in a simple free society with mutual respect we would have been treat both sex equally,would be open about sex & sex education,means & ways to clear sexual issues,would have a marriage system which is simple where couples choose each other without force & perks plus easy divorce if required.a very stringent unbiased gunda law which restrict their movements & preserve law abiding citizens freedom to express & live
(DIR) Post #9pgiYSNjruWA7Pu81o by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:18:58Z
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@st_in U surely have some very very strange views !!Are u so naive to expect people to behave in a proper manner. What is happening is a pretty clear indication that things are gone pretty bad. So, we r way past idealistic talks.And that bit u said about marriage being a solution. So a person with propensity to r@pe would be indulging in marital r@pe then.u are still going on about sex educ being the solution. I don't get u really.How is learning "Not to violate someone" SexEd?@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYSgAlNGN2aWqlE by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:30:54Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona i said if we are living in a simple free society we would have all those plus more life related amenities and solutions purely based on nature freedom mutual respect etc as you were doubtful about what it could be more simple
(DIR) Post #9pgiYStzvyK1jSztJI by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:40:43Z
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@st_in So which society as per u was a simple society in history?? Where "nature" freedom worked fine.Which utopian world are u living in ??I hate to do this, but are you a school student ?? 🤔@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYT7p6ZNgQLSvrM by KayKap@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:50:46Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona Would assume he is talking of the beginning of humanity, where nature governed selection and survival and life was simple or maybe later Indus Valley Civilization... @st_in
(DIR) Post #9pgiYTNQAZrFCilOAi by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:00:41Z
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@KayKap Was just composing a toot touching upon that point, kind of.These civilizations are where rules to govern society started.And talking about "Nature freedom"... @st_inone big law of nature is "Survival of fittest"So following that, if someone gets sick, u wud treat that person (it would be interference in the natural scheme of things, mind u) or leave the person to his means and nature take care of it ?? 🤔🙄@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYTgD2it28zYOSO by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:10:02Z
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@KnottedBow @KayKap @ranjona don't mix nature and freedom.nature in the sense there is a way which is natural like both sex attracts each other but we indians say a no to it & stands only for arranged marriages.abt freedom if anybody choose to deny arranged marriages face a war like situation from society, govt arms like courts police, family even friends which takes the freedom to choose from persons you can see this kind of differences between natural living & indian living
(DIR) Post #9pgiYTukAgVqs4M06y by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:12:26Z
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@st_in😂😂🙏🙏Please continue.You are simply great.I will hence forth consider this "Amar Chitra Katha" sessions. @KayKap @ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYUB3C3YZgdz1Wq by KayKap@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:13:07Z
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@KnottedBow Oye don't you put Amar Chitra Katha in the same lot, pls @st_in @ranjona
(DIR) Post #9pgiYcCPMtOcZAgDku by KayKap@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:06:34Z
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@KnottedBow From what i have read, sick were treated because they were contributing members of society. Healers knew when it was time 4 some1 2 pass on, the entire community visited with that person 2 share, thank & learn, but mostly just 2 sit in silence & bid farewell. They allocated work according 2 capability, slow & dumb were given easy repetitive tasks to 2do; others handled more complicated ones; elders who couldn't move abt became teachers, passing life skills on@ranjona @st_in
(DIR) Post #9pgiYcT4MwivOqTWj2 by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:10:32Z
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@KayKap Yes, I get ur point.So, there again, it was not left to "nature" as this person is expecting.Human intervention was done as per need.That was all in the past.Today we seek Tx even at stage IV of cancer.Sometimes, it may be just palliative.@ranjona @st_in
(DIR) Post #9pgiYckRKMcOGibOng by KayKap@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:13:36Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona Palliative care is a human right!@st_in
(DIR) Post #9piF5Qqjyfkmc8CI1Q by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:44:14Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona why history lets take European nations and all developed economies which earned that status without monopolistic resources
(DIR) Post #9piF5R4Z9GoRJ0fKZU by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:53:06Z
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@st_in Give example from Indian subcontinent.Indians are not Europeans.If u go that way, there is no comparison.Don't shoot all over the place just to make ur point valid. If u take the times of Kings & queens, for sake of "simple living" .. there were crimes & rules.Further back, only place where we had "nature freedom" to borrow ur words is when human was a hunter gatherer.So, jai ho aapke thinking ko.Live in current situation of life & find realistic solutions 🙏🙏@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9piF5RHgMVIvxgno12 by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T10:57:37Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona i said it about a simple free society with mutual respect and i dont believe India comes near to it but still you can take state kerala as example where things are way better than any other state in India but still lacks freedom to express and live compared to leading matured democratic economies
(DIR) Post #9piF5RURb3VqbGlzuK by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:05:36Z
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@st_in If u know India don't come near it, then talking realistically !! 🙄🤦Wtf do u mean ??Kerala is a state which does not have rules ??And what no freedom to express ??Are you aware, Kerala is one state that I know, where political satire comedy programs are done everyday on every channel and no one gets arrested for it.@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9piF5RhCpbilEqkBnc by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T11:12:33Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona i also said the same you can take kerala as an example where freedom to express and live are high but still lacks international standards
(DIR) Post #9piF5RvjxZLZxvXnSC by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T13:24:11Z
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@st_in I missed this among all the notifications overload.What international standards do u want in Kerala ?? 🤔I think Kerala has done nearly the best it can given all the pressures it endures. There are lot of things Kerala has done.My very humble suggestion to u...Since u like Europeans and international standards, go and live somewhere there. 🙏Bye.@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9piF5SFallE6xUpeOe by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T13:54:17Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona like sanghis asking to go to pakistan if differs anyway thanks fpr the advice but lacks cash any inputs in that regard😋😋
(DIR) Post #9piF5SUTsP8VhfnXbU by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-06T14:03:05Z
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@st_in 🤣🤣🤣No. When I asked for example of simple society u gave example of Europeans.Then u say, Kerala despite being best state lacks international standards.That's why...😂Sanghi jaise nahi... Unka toh alag track hai.Just keep it real.Be it life or expectations.See the world around and try to find solutions as per it.That's all I will say.@ranjona
(DIR) Post #9piF5SlUr8kOYRl87s by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-07T05:28:14Z
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@KnottedBow @ranjona @KayKap both this films are from malayalam which gives insights about society's views. these films discuss relations between male female and nature. first poster with elephant is 'leela' (eng. meaning play)2016 film and red colored title is 'chola' (eng meaning stream) released yesterday. i know they are not real but still you will get reflections of society and persons how they treat nature
(DIR) Post #9piF5T3ZlvD1SWDZJ2 by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-07T06:05:42Z
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@st_in @KnottedBow @KayKap You know this cultural discussion is very interesting. But the truth of the matter is that women get abused, assaulted and raped across the world. In all cultures. In homes. By their loved ones. We are not unique and no one is immune.
(DIR) Post #9piHIM8J1coreshgTA by st_in@mastodon.social
2019-12-07T06:24:34Z
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@ranjona @KnottedBow @KayKap completely agree with you but my point is the way of living of each society do play a crucial role on the level and quantum of atrocities towards females and also influence reactions rehabilitations and remedies
(DIR) Post #9piHIMOG4Ja0SMAQKm by ranjona@mstdn.social
2019-12-07T06:30:32Z
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@st_in @KnottedBow @KayKap I don't think there is any research or stats or empirical evidence that bears out your feelings. I am sorry. But the outlook is harsh.