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 (DIR) Post #9pcv6IRwgvntka0vce by steviemcfly@radical.town
       2019-09-25T22:00:40Z
       
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       Andrew Yang's "UBI" plan basically guarantees it can only be used by people not dependent on social services or who don't realize how much it will completely destroy their lives if they give up those services in exchange for $1000 a month, and I truly despise him more than most other candidates for this trojan horse against the poor.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv6IoHLtfUrqSlQu by tesseract@witches.live
       2019-09-25T23:05:46Z
       
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       @steviemcfly Can you explain why it’s bad for specifically people who are on social services? (I am hardly a Yang fan but I don’t understand).
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv6JHLbov8K03yk4 by steviemcfly@radical.town
       2019-09-25T23:17:52Z
       
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       @tesseract So imagine you're on rent assistance, Medicaid, and EBT. You have the option of keeping those services or taking $1000.If you lose those services, you have to rent an apartment on your own. A studio apartment in Brooklyn will run you about $1600 a month (if you're lucky), so the rent assistance alone makes it not worth it. If you want to get insurance, you'll be paying about $400 a month, and if you have any condition where you need to see a doctor regularly, your copay has shot up from $0 to $35-50 (and for medicine, from $1 to $15-30). All your food will also have to come out of pocket.The average Social Security payout is about $1400 a month, so any senior who is conned into taking the "freedom dividend" instead also loses money.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv6JidyKkrgepmHw by steviemcfly@radical.town
       2019-09-25T23:20:56Z
       
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       @tesseract Essentially, to benefit from the "freedom dividend" instead of losing money and making your life materially worse, you have to be making enough money to not need any social services *and* know you won't need them going forward.If you're making $100k a year, you're suddenly making $112k a year with no detriment to your life. If you're poor enough to use any social services, you're either not going to opt into the program or you're going to do it not realizing what you're giving up and be absolutely fucked.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv6KH1uUGDPIvEsy by tesseract@witches.live
       2019-09-25T23:43:14Z
       
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       @steviemcfly So are you saying that if you opt in to the freedom dividend you’re no longer eligible for SSI etc?
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv6KplpK3993Az2G by steviemcfly@radical.town
       2019-09-25T23:47:20Z
       
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       @tesseract Correct. He did an interview this week where he said that any "cash-like" benefit would be traded in if you opt-in for his version of UBI.
       
 (DIR) Post #9pcv76IRMXuSLZx2kS by joey@yang.social
       2019-12-04T16:28:39.287608Z
       
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       @steviemcfly @tesseract how do you feel about  @Yang?