Post 9pYMHiyQAniFA8LP16 by VivekT@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9pXzmXGFTJzwrtPDJg by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T07:27:21Z
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(DIR) Post #9pY1lL7JL0xEp3maTQ by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T07:30:53Z
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@SilkyNsa Oh Oh Seven!
(DIR) Post #9pY1o3SjQvuaw964Bc by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T07:50:02Z
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@VivekT James Bond is icon of every wannabe detective
(DIR) Post #9pY1xq4y2yZUKDe9uy by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T07:51:49Z
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@VivekT The pleasure in exposing people's darkest kept secrets in open on their face is Immeasurable Satanic Pleasure 😈😈
(DIR) Post #9pYAcrxQlcRXeoCHoW by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:07:40Z
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@SilkyNsa Ha! You think Most see the glamorous side of Bond and aspire for it. I don't think anyone wants the toil and paperwork required for being a spy.
(DIR) Post #9pYAcsaQQddRbkRQau by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:12:03Z
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@VivekT @SilkyNsa I would have aspired to be feluda but he became my hero or I came to know about him when I was in my fourties. The sadness of not being born a bengalli and not knowing bengali literature :(
(DIR) Post #9pYAcsyWz0uwoVigAS by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:18:43Z
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@shirishag75 Theres Hercule Poirot if you aspire to be one (you will have to grow the ridiculous moustache) or you could be Miss Marple too. There are so many detective characters ranging from kids to geriatrics. @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYActJRjFeDrNVNlg by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:32:15Z
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@VivekT @shirishag75 Yaay... Poirot fan...@SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYActcwYlFApqcx9s by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:35:56Z
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@KnottedBow @VivekT @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa I'm a Holmes fan too! As a gawkish teen, I could recite entire paras from the works!!
(DIR) Post #9pYActxVKJgrrcFNCq by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:18:47Z
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@NSure The Holmes I liked was in Conan Doyle's books. Jeremy Brett was somewhat akin to the image I had formed in my mind. After that no one came close. Elementary is not my cup of tea and I stopped watching after a few episodes. Cumberbatch version was a joke. Anyways such choices are too subjective and open to debate.@KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYAcuIm3EhivaCMMK by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:23:45Z
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@KnottedBow @SilkyNsa One thing I was always mystified and curious about and perhaps the ladies could talk and explore, if I'm not wrong both are writers is if anybody had explored the similarities and dis-similarities between Holmes and Siddhartha (the one who became the Buddha). Especially more in the elementary series where Holmes in more than one occassion identifies himself as high-functioning pyschopath who does violence on the occasion if he feels it's needed. 1/n @VivekT @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYAcuuhmD2spDweTw by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:27:01Z
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@KnottedBow @SilkyNsa Unlike Siddhartha who understood the preciousness of life even of those whom we would call as murderers and rapists. Both Holmes and Siddhartha appear to be quite vulnerable and emotional characters but perhaps this sensitivity is what lead Siddhartha to become Buddha while Holmes stayed where he is. I dunno how the women see it but it probably may be worth exploring, dunno. @VivekT @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYAmRSo7qtMNqRDY8 by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T09:30:36Z
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@VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow @shirishag75 Thanks I was going to watch cumbermatch
(DIR) Post #9pYAn9rT3WlI54JX60 by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:42:14Z
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@NSure @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa Dunno if you saw the 1985 adaption of Sherlock holmes. That one was a weird one but still enjoyed quite a lot https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090357/ 1/n
(DIR) Post #9pYAnABfqOvP5jlfai by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:45:33Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa Yes, saw that too - Young Sherlock Homes. Liked it, it doesn't affect the Doyle-wala Holmes!!
(DIR) Post #9pYAnAdKBb2iTUhkgq by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:48:05Z
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@NSure @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa for me it added mystique to an already mystifying character, I was a youngling then so was influenced. Don't know if you saw elementary or not. I found Jonny Lee Miller to be more freer than the british adaption which sadly became something of a joke. I don't really know what tempted them to make that last episode that didn't go anywhere :(
(DIR) Post #9pYAnAxsx9UPVGKAjo by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:14:36Z
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@shirishag75 Agree with u on that. Elementary was better than Cumberbatch's@NSure @VivekT @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYAnPg0Fv69894bRo by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:11:44Z
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@NSure Wow... That's amazing...@VivekT @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYArEydyfpX6acKuG by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:06:34Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa I've always felt that the joke is because of the sheer admiration people have for Holmes' character.I mean, you don't want your super detective to be an ordinary fella, do you? If Superman, Batman, Spiderman were ordinary, what's the fun?? Or if Joker, Venom or Mr. Freeze were ordinary?Similarly, what's the fun if Holmes wasn't cold, inhuman, superior, Meerschaum pipe smoker, cocaine addict, misogynist? 😀 Or Prof. Moriarty the uncle next door??
(DIR) Post #9pYAx8EtwQi9wi1yQC by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:44:45Z
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@NSure @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa Also Jeremy Brett as the original Sherlock and the steam engine (am bit a fan of the old railways) is always nostalgic. He probably made a template which made it twice harder to forge any other than the character potrayed in the American series which is far removed from the classical one. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090509/
(DIR) Post #9pYAxC5TdPY7sdeVHs by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:51:00Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @VivekT @SilkyNsa I have all the 50-odd Granada TV Homes episodes on a Thumb Drive...That has all but 4 or 5 of the original 56! Brett ages rapidly during the shooting, as he was terminally ill, Watson doesn't age that much!!Now, please don't inform Granada TV about it! 😂😃
(DIR) Post #9pYB2LTGAr7MQmEV96 by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:24:29Z
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@VivekT Nads on both as both characters are somewhat narcisstic in nature. With Hercule more so with the chip on his shoulder and of course would have to learn belgian and french . I do like Sherlock as he is potrayed today, a very much flawed character and very much human (The American elementary series) . Other than how the deductions he makes, it is interesting how the character had grown in elementary if you have seen it. @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYB2Ls4gay1fjqJpA by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:42:23Z
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@shirishag75 @VivekT @SilkyNsa I like Holmes - warts and all - just like Sir Arthur created him!!Only Jeremy Bret portrayed that, even Basil Rathbone only comes a distant second!Granada TV Holmes is almost the exact dialogues too, while 'liberties' have been taken with ALL other adaptations!Poirot, Miss. Marple are great too, but IMO, Holmes is the Greatest!
(DIR) Post #9pYB5JbnYRHFWXdv04 by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T08:31:41Z
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@SilkyNsa Naa.. Bond is a spy.Detectives be more like Sherlock or Hercule Poirot 🙂@VivekT
(DIR) Post #9pYBByiTd716kqwaFU by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:34:15Z
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@SilkyNsa please don't let us stop you. I know lot of women went ga-ga over him and if I were a woman or gay (unfortunately not) would have been bowled by him. One thing to note is he made the long coat fashionable again as well. See https://www.angeljackets.com/products/benedict-cumberbatch-sherlock-coat.html as an e.g. @VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow
(DIR) Post #9pYBG3kKs1pdVsl8ls by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T09:35:58Z
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@shirishag75 @VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow Not at all...I m Agatha Christie fan more where even medical community took her advice on poisons 😄
(DIR) Post #9pYBb3VSxPYyqnoeMC by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:38:33Z
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@shirishag75 Wow that would be a great leap of imagination for me. @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYBbPbEodFhN4gZPM by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:37:00Z
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@SilkyNsa that's relevation to me. Do you have some link which explains more what you mean ?@VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow
(DIR) Post #9pYBjrAQCj9ZBeAYMK by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T09:41:20Z
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@shirishag75 @VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow Its legend n public knowledge. U can just Google Agatha Christie n find that her novels were so famous in poison concoctions that even medical community used her to find new poisons n their cure...Coz as it's common...poison is cured by poison of higher intensity
(DIR) Post #9pYBkRS3Iee9ikh8q0 by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:40:09Z
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@VivekT that's what makes life interesting isn't it. If we don't explore the greys, then how would we know :)@KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYDnT9FeDOBlCTKzo by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:54:20Z
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@shirishag75 am all for exploration just not the Holmes Buddha connect. @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYDnTYQ8dWR1GFRE8 by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T09:56:43Z
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@VivekT @shirishag75 That was a little ... Ummm.... Out of league for me too... 😂@SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYDnTvSkxxCAj1q8u by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T10:00:06Z
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@KnottedBow @VivekT well, I dunno but I always saw both of them as mirrors of each other but with the differentation in personalities. There are lot of similarities, I could go on and on, perhaps it may be because Siddhartha is not as explored as Buddha has been. Maybe something that perhaps can be explored further. @SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYDnUKdFO5RQmnwNE by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T10:04:08Z
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@shirishag75 @VivekT I am not so read up on Sidhartha, so can't comment or compare.Each person has their own thinking process. So, it's fine that u think like that and u see a parallel. U shared and now we know...Just that, I and I guess, Vivek, don't think along those lines of thought. That's all.@SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYMHWXkO9FIbvlvm4 by pursephoney@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T10:37:15Z
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@VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Blasphemy! Cumberbatch is a god! The series was so so well written. And yes, I'm a die hard Holmes fan
(DIR) Post #9pYMHWv8z9xdmUicF6 by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:18:59Z
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@pursephoney @VivekT @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Benedict is near-god. His Khan in Star Trek was just so good!Blame it on the script writer, director etc., his Sherlock is below par.Sherlock follows the same pattern: a series of small deductions, then one big one, followed by some more small ones. Episode Over.Cumberbatch portrayed it all well enough, but the whole is a lot leader than the parts, IMO
(DIR) Post #9pYMHXPHB841HwogD2 by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:23:51Z
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@NSure Have to agree on this one. I dunno why but I felt that the series were intentionally cut . Maybe they had a funding issue or some other politics that we are unaware about. TV programming is nowadays so much about politics rather than just TRP's. @pursephoney @VivekT @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMHiyQAniFA8LP16 by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:06:13Z
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@pursephoney Hahaha So I am a Benedict heretic. No one has yet mentioned the Sherlock played by Robert Downey Jr. I think Jude Laws Dr Watson was better in that movie. @NSure @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMHjSCO5X2eUHBQm by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:09:32Z
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@VivekT Didn't ... Coz don't want to open a Pandora's box.Watched it. Ok. Close chapter.@pursephoney @NSure @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMHk5Y1n0WcWgblQ by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:22:06Z
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@KnottedBow The idea is to open Pandora's box. 😜 @pursephoney @NSure @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMI3XtgbyQxx615c by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:08:59Z
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@VivekT @pursephoney @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa IMO, Downey's Sherlock was the pits...
(DIR) Post #9pYMI3tWODGs31DHnM by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:13:11Z
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@VivekT @pursephoney @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Should've stuck to playing Stark. Honestly, couldn't find much to differentiate between his Stark & Holmes portrayals...
(DIR) Post #9pYMI47hXUc6kzqbtg by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:18:02Z
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@NSure agreed. Even his Stark persona was over the top but that goes with the character he attempts to potray. I liked some of his earlier characters. He sadly can't pull off a serious deeply layered complex character or maybe that was what was told to him by the casting director. Till we don't know the internals, we don't know why he chose to play the character the way he did unfortunately :(@VivekT @pursephoney @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMI4VS7Bc1wexZuy by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:21:07Z
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@shirishag75 @VivekT @pursephoney @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa I feel he spoilt it more than the movie makers, just my feeling...
(DIR) Post #9pYMI9YTLNzzbTPYoq by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:19:22Z
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@NSure So essentially Downey plays Downey@pursephoney @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMIA2xW2Nx81fuL2 by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:19:47Z
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@VivekT @pursephoney @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Yup!!
(DIR) Post #9pYMKyUcvduAADxSca by pursephoney@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:16:47Z
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@VivekT @NSure @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Downey Holmes was a real downer. Downey played Downey in that movie, and he should have played down his real self and not downsized the actual Holmes
(DIR) Post #9pYMLznxXLnoWQUI08 by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:10:18Z
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@KnottedBow at least there are some places where we agree :) @VivekT @pursephoney @NSure @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMMsIevQRfXHGZLk by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:08:23Z
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@VivekT Didn't mention it as he was all the place. I found it to be a bit too dramatic, over-acted etc. I think most of those movies were more comedy rather than serious crime or study of human psychology. He was fun but that's it. @pursephoney @NSure @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYMNisxPiNUcueI9A by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T10:57:29Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @VivekT The Holmes I admire was NOT a psychopath. Yes, he did push Prof. Moriarty down the Reichbach falls, but that was in self-defense. Yes, Holmes burgled on occasion - the most famous ones being in A Scandal in Bohemia & in The Bruce Partington Plans, but NEVER for self-gain, it was only to clear his client's reputation!!
(DIR) Post #9pYMNjEE8dOLgsbHIe by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:01:33Z
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@NSure Yeah, but that was in a different era and a different context and the stakes were not as high as today. I dunno if you watched elementary or not. If you had, then I doubt you would be as certain as you are right now. The stakes have never been higher. @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @VivekT
(DIR) Post #9pYMNjTpCdruTFtjc0 by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:08:05Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @VivekT You can't have Holmes in two eras! Why Holmes, it should be a different character (which it is), with a different name & persona (which it isn't)
(DIR) Post #9pYMQutrCUkIl2ao2S by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T10:05:09Z
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@KnottedBow fair enough, no issue with that :)@VivekT @SilkyNsa @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYO5gW5gLrjyYTneK by pursephoney@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T11:48:46Z
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@NSure @VivekT @KnottedBow @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa Exactly
(DIR) Post #9pYeG4kS2ibhI7AoL2 by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T15:00:54Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @VivekT @NSure Shirish..I m sorry if i was rude to u at noon..I m in traffic at that time so I just on the internet data on mobile n try to respond to any notifications.. N the signal goes on n I just type fast n shut off internet...so I might have been not so polite..Plz forgive me
(DIR) Post #9pYedVZ0Vfnf7NzgjA by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T15:02:42Z
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@SilkyNsa there is nothing to forgive. I would just suggest that perhaps it's not a good idea to write if you are driving and rather share your thoughts when you are in better surroundings :)@KnottedBow @VivekT @NSure
(DIR) Post #9pYedWAEHHZeypPPkG by SilkyNsa@mstdn.social
2019-12-02T15:05:08Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @VivekT @NSure Too hard n harder to stay without internet whole day n for work purpose too I have to on the data..so when signal is red I try to do utilise time.Thanks.. ☺
(DIR) Post #9pYo1zKqN2mFzT7JWy by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T15:21:34Z
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@SilkyNsa @shirishag75 @VivekT @KnottedBow Holmes is the Father of Forensic Science. His analysis of Blood & Blood Splatter, Cigar Ash, Ballistics, Crime Scene investigations into length and smell and other stuff, his stern warnings that one must start observations with an open mind, that whenever all possibilities are eliminated, we have the probable event at hand, etc., etc., are valid 120 years after Doyle first wrote about them!If you have Prime, follow this link:https://www.primevideo.com/region/eu/detail/0FWNLPXUWVHV4ANZMCIXN9C8ZC/ref=atv_sr_def_c_unkc__5_1_5?sr=1-5&pageTypeIdSource=ASIN&pageTypeId=B079HMZBRM&qid=1575295961
(DIR) Post #9pYo5J4JSVxK3qy1Me by KnottedBow@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T12:44:18Z
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@NSure @shirishag75 @SilkyNsa @VivekT I was thinking. 🤔😅Are we the Conan Doyle Sherlock purists ?? 😅🙈The thing with series and film adaptation is that the creative team takes the root thread and spins their own version of it, right ?It's their creative freedom.I mean, I was happy that Elementary came in modern setting with modern forensics, computer, gizmos and all that jazz...But at the end of the day, I will happily go back to Conan Doyle's Sherlock. 🙂
(DIR) Post #9pYo5Ji14tiO2zXjFY by shirishag75@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T13:24:46Z
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@KnottedBow Exactly. Elementary tried to showcase how Sherlock would adapt in these fucked-up times. His lover is Moriarty who is also a murderer and manipulative but at the same time his lover for all-time (frenemy anyone ?). Watson is an Asian women with whom he cherishes his companionship and is friend, mother, sister, confidante all rolled into one without the romantic part. @NSure @SilkyNsa @VivekT
(DIR) Post #9pYo5KIWt8vDsEctA8 by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T15:13:18Z
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@shirishag75 @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa @VivekT Wondering if the times are fucked up, or whether the Writer of Elementary is... No wait, I know - it is the Writer!!
(DIR) Post #9pYo5ckUHvyt69qTEu by VivekT@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T13:29:11Z
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@shirishag75 My question is why would they require a Holmes Watson Moriarty triangle to suit the new age problems? They could easily have created new characters or were they depending on these characters to get the initial draw?@KnottedBow @NSure @SilkyNsa
(DIR) Post #9pYo5dKe7Uu8uIlLbE by NSure@mastodon.social
2019-12-02T15:12:06Z
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@VivekT @shirishag75 @KnottedBow @SilkyNsa You echo my thoughts!!It was obviously to cash in on Holmes (and Watson and Moriarty) name(s)!