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(DIR) Post #9pCjksLUJpWCA58iIa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:18:32Z
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Arrived at the first day of #Netizen21, the Institute for Network Society annual #conference (#INS). Realized today's talks are all in Chinese. This must be what it's like for non-English speaking folks coming to most tech politics conferences. Being a native English speaker is a privilege that's hard to recognize until I find myself in this kind of situation.
(DIR) Post #9pCkR0irZ0DkIyAGMy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:26:14Z
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My first ever experience of being in the linguistic and ethnic minority at an event was as a teenager, attending NgΔ Manu KΕrero, the annual Te Reo MΔori speech competitions. It blows my mind that many people have never had such an experience.
(DIR) Post #9pCl2VhVLnbn62PVXk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:33:02Z
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The first speaker at #Netizen21, a woman in a pink lab coat, does an amazingly visual presentation on the mobile device as a magic mirror biased towards making everything "beautiful". She plays with these tools live on the screen, demonstrating "beautification" and then hacking this concept to showcase the more creative and expressive use these same tools can be put to.
(DIR) Post #9pClHxpR3PBAg3UMuO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:35:50Z
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#Netizen21 program is here:http://caa-ins.org/archives/5895/2The speaker names are all in Chinese, which I can't read π
(DIR) Post #9pClofjXLtSm72KIGu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:41:44Z
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The second speaker is a young man in a cap and hipster glasses. He starts off with demonstrating something that involves a group of audience volunteers standing in a circle, numbering off. Then moves on to something about #Stanislavski and continuous consciousness.
(DIR) Post #9pCmFPOcCbslGHHzqi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:46:34Z
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For some reason I find myself thinking about a way of presenting ideas in #hypertext, where fediverse posts can be linked into new sequences, making overlapping threads that layer on top of any threads the posts may originally have been part of. A different kind of federated wiki from the Smallest Federated Wiki approach (#FedWiki).
(DIR) Post #9pCmxqzOyLHTaAgmB6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T01:54:37Z
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This second speaker is making minimal use of the presentation screen, as I often do. I'm having an experience maybe akin to that of a visual person attending one of my presentations π He seems to be talking about various examples of #AI applications, and a #Rasabox? A tool for recognising emotions in human faces based on a #vedic schema? A photo of a person doing calligraphy with a brain scanning web attached. Who is Rosa? Why are these posts turning into bad haiku?
(DIR) Post #9pCozWo9B49FThLoR6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:17:19Z
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The third speaker, another young man in hipster glasses is talking about #BertoltBrecht, and various other famous arts figures including John Cage. A B+W photo of an old French protest march. A photo representing infinite regression? Photo of the #Time issue with "You" as Person of the Year.
(DIR) Post #9pCpmLCv61xbgoDKAC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:26:03Z
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Fourth speaker is a young woman wearing a grey overcoat and orange and black stripey pants. I approve π
(DIR) Post #9pCq4ib4sB3fRZHCS0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:29:23Z
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Fourth speaker seems to be talking about #geotagging of notable architecture. She quotes #ManuelCastells. A photo of a set of sails above a city. #SailPunk? Photos of white folks in period aristocratic costume, and of palatial built environments, The White Palace? A photo of the contrast between low-rise and high-rise housing, in China? Photos of an old, communal neighbourhood. She quotes #PeterHall and others. A video of lit-up city nightscapes with massive group dancing.
(DIR) Post #9pCqILOBxJppWIkLBI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:31:37Z
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What would you call a #FlashMob that turns up predictably at the same time every week? That's a common sight in public squares in China. Most of them seems to be huge dance classes.
(DIR) Post #9pCqgtxF5uDZfkqp7Y by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2019-11-22T02:36:19Z
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@strypeyIs that the same #JohnCage from #MortalKombat? :)
(DIR) Post #9pCqnpefTirIMfT3rs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:37:33Z
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The fifth speaker is a young woman in a black Matrix coat and glasses whose presentation is entitled "Blindness". She seems to be talking about #ScreenStudies or "#screenology" and how much time people spend on average online.
(DIR) Post #9pCr5XMCFSUmpLGoW8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:40:47Z
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I'm literally the only non-Asian person in the room, possibly the only non-Chinese person. This is a much more common experience for people of colour in tech situations than it is for me.
(DIR) Post #9pCry1iJbBKwc9bAye by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:50:38Z
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Fifth speaker is talking about "Computer Vision Syndrome" and quoting #AnneFriedberg. Now she's talking about MS Windows and maybe how the overlapping nature of windows on a desktop contrasts with paintings like Alberti's Window and Magritte's window painting, and Friedberg's writing about windows. She quotes #JosephPieper and #TheInvisibleGorilla. Then moves on to "trees blindness" and tree walks. Then to teen use of#SocialMedia and discourses of #DigitalNarcissism.
(DIR) Post #9pCsGRR6ha81bUKYhk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:53:59Z
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More images infinite regression. Photo of #SlavojZizek. A surrealist painting. #RadiKarlArchiWe? a space suite on a couch. Everything is quite surreal when I have no idea what's being said π
(DIR) Post #9pCsTtuM9j4bfiQh5E by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:56:23Z
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Today's speakers seems to come from a range of universities around China. Now we seems to be moving on to a panel discussion and/or Q+A with the first group of speakers.#Netizen21.
(DIR) Post #9pCshxyloejOLvCX1k by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T02:58:52Z
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@dsfgs at this point, that would be no less surreal than any other interpretation π
(DIR) Post #9pCujLEp1d9SgdUbi4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T03:21:32Z
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There's a camera above the door, facing the seating area of the lecture theatre #Netizen21 is taking place in. I wonder if we're all being filmed and subjected to #FacialRecognition, and who has access to the camera feed, any recorded footage, and any resulting facial data?
(DIR) Post #9pCvZ08shiZAJkLadc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T03:31:02Z
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It just occurred to me I also have a camera and I can post photos here instead of descriptions. Spot the social media noob π
(DIR) Post #9pD1SP00UJfj6jQtbk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T04:36:57Z
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The first panel of speakers from #Netizen21
(DIR) Post #9pD4803tnIFzpxDTai by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:06:52Z
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The first panel at #Netizen21 was 'Spiritual Life in the Network Society'. The second panel is 'Political Economy Criticism of Social Media'.
(DIR) Post #9pD4hpfFveoo0ymAfg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:13:22Z
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The first speaker for panel 2
(DIR) Post #9pD56biCwNqNyvyDWS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:17:57Z
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First speaker for panel 2 is talking about the use of bots and fakes to game the corporate social surveillance platforms. Case studies include #ChrisYu and #Bitsoil. "Developers' lives matter"
(DIR) Post #9pD5rhbmprijsbQJua by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:26:22Z
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The second speaker for panel 2 talking about the #RightToBeForgotten. Ironic to be putting a photo of this on the fediverse π She starts with a brief history its roots as a legal concept in Europe, beginning in the EU in 1953, with Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, proceeding through its evolution in EU law, and then focusing on the #GDPR.
(DIR) Post #9pD684nEP4yEQ1aIAS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:29:22Z
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It's good that the GDPR assumes children (under-16s) have an automatic right to data erasure.
(DIR) Post #9pD7OVyNDYOPIpCMBk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:43:27Z
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She goes on to talk about legal test cases. Goggle Spain vs. #AEPD and #MarioCostejaGonzalez. #RenJaiyu vs. Beijing #Baidu Netcom Science and Technology Co. Ltd. Quoting Lady #UshaPrashar on the limits of the #ECJ interpretation, and the #DeloitteReport on the GDPR. Moves on to #DataErasure services like #DeleteMe, #PrivacyDuck, and #OneRep, and encryption. Then focusing on relevant Chinese law.
(DIR) Post #9pD7l3pW1BySgBo1TM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:47:34Z
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The third speaker for panel 2. On #FOSS and #ICU.
(DIR) Post #9pD7qzsPd4x09jzX4y by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T05:47:52Z
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My battery is about dead so that's me until I can find a power plug.
(DIR) Post #9pD94zHoijSwKl6qEC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:02:22Z
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He seems to be talking about the general concepts of #FreeSoftware, #copyleft, the #GPL and #OpenSource, and how the #Anti996 license relates to all this. "Why any software movement will fail", referencing #RichardStallman, not sure what the proposition is here. He moves on to a critique of #DataAsLabour, and the proposition that #disintermedia, via decentralized tech like #IPFS and #BitCoin, will allow users to monetize their own data directly, rather than mediators capturing that value.
(DIR) Post #9pD9Az9A9VZxddvBNw by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:03:00Z
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I've switched to the laptop to carry on the live postings on #Netizen21, but the battery on this is crap too.
(DIR) Post #9pD9R8EQ8vYsRp513Q by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:06:23Z
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"The marriage of democracy and capitalism is over". Quoting someone? Goggle, FarceBook, and the Amazone are both capturing far more value than they contribute and disrupting basic democratic rights in the process. In response to this, and the lack of action by most public authorities to do anything substantial about it, people move to the #DarkWeb, #SilkRoad, #Telegram, and so on.
(DIR) Post #9pD9fVFzKfERuhfLhQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:08:57Z
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The arrival of # Netscape created an app environment within the web browser, which began to displace native Windows apps. Farcebook and others have begun to do the same things to the browser. In response, tools like #MaskBook offer "Post on Facebook, but not viewed by Facebook".
(DIR) Post #9pD9sTYYxvoSP8XXH6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:11:22Z
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A lot more people in the audience for this session of #Netizen21 than there were this morning.
(DIR) Post #9pDAGoJrQBfpkWGbMO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:15:44Z
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The fourth speaker is based at the University of Melbourne and is rocking the pseudo-corporate dress code typical of the contemporary western academic. She must be relishing the opportunity to write and speak only in Chinese for a change, as all her slides so far have been entirely in Chinese characters. I'm totally lost. Can't blame her though, I certainly relish the change to speak, read, and write in English whenever I return to anglophone countries.
(DIR) Post #9pDAf1nswGYgWIrH3A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:20:07Z
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I've logged into #OpenBox instead of #Mate in the vain hope my worn out old battery will last longer this way.
(DIR) Post #9pDBCzngtPke9Yxr8K by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:26:15Z
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Post-lunch brain has turned up for its shift. OK, ummm ...A few slides of text, bullet points etc. Something about #Python and #WordArt in one of her slides? A bar diagram with blue bars. Mmmm, blue bars. A #WordCloud actually looks really cool with Chinese characters! A table. Tables don't look as cool as word clouds. Another table, this one will coloured rows. Still not as cool as word clouds. I'm craving a coffee. An #SpamGram influencer or Chinese equivalent? More bullet points.
(DIR) Post #9pDBUQA28fLApbiwts by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:29:24Z
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Fifth speaker has just started. We're meant to be having a break in about 20 minutes. I can't see it ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDBoE5ui9hXCREzy4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:33:00Z
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Good to see that gender is pretty balanced at this conference so far - biased towards female speakers if anything - although notably more binary than you'd see at a typical western conference these days. Mind you, since I have no idea what anyone is saying, they could all be announcing their pronouns when they get up to speak.
(DIR) Post #9pDCbnbjSk4lX0lIhc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T06:41:54Z
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The fifth speaker for panel 2 is an earnest young woman in an olive overcoat. Again, most of the slides are bullet points in Chinese, so I'm not sure what her talk in about. Graphics of feminine avatars? Photo of plastic toy representing bald guy in a sweater with a framed picture (or a tablet?) in his hands. Photos from #Westworld. Is this talk about #AI? Was that plastic bald guy a robot? Some names, #BenedictTay, #YounboJung, #TaezoonPark. Epilepsy-inducting flashing photo of 3 men.
(DIR) Post #9pDJff0s3fSNiIJCKm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T08:00:57Z
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A sixth speaker. I think I'll have to skip out on the discussion, which I can't understand anyway, and find coffee. Speaker six for the second panel, a young woman with a tartan coat under a sleeveless windbreaker, is also using pretty text-heavy slides. Something about identity? My laptop died too, so I left once the discussion started. Now at a cafe recharging both my devices and myself ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDLrZ1wKMtSXdc1p2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T08:25:39Z
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The third panel at #Netizen21, is called 'Media Archaeology'. I really wish I could understand Chinese because all three of the panels today had fascinating topics. Mind you, even if I had been studiously working on my #Mandarin skills since before we got here, I imagine I'd still be struggling to follow academic lectures ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDMGFygIkyqgsrXnc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T08:30:08Z
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Still, I'll head back for what's left of panel 3 once my devices finish charging and interpreting what I can from the slides ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDNC24CBFkkLGzWhU by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-22T08:40:38Z
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@strypeyDon't make it sound like non-native English sprakers don't exist
(DIR) Post #9pDO8sab3pFU2ACufo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T08:50:54Z
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@Wolf480pl I'm pretty certain there's no such thing as a non-native English spraker, or any other kind of spraker ;P
(DIR) Post #9pDOCzuxku3XvAhHJw by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-22T08:52:06Z
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@strypeylol I meant speaker ofc. Stupid touchscreen keyboard.
(DIR) Post #9pDOYVwrrSDfLNqdUm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T08:55:56Z
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@Wolf480pl see:https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/103180608412382772A non-native English speaker would understand much more at an English language conference than I do here. I'm starting to learn some more Chinese, but at present it's pretty much limited to saying "hello", "I want this", "I don't want meat/ egg", "thanks", and explaining that I don't understand, and only speak a tiny bit of Chinese ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDPgBtMPmHZPVQpnM by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-22T09:08:35Z
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@strypey ok, but what about a non-native English speaker at a German or French conference?It's like...everyone agreed that from the age of 7 we'll start learning English and do it for 12 years, so that eventually we'll be able to talk to people in different countries.And then it turns out even though you did your part of the deal, someone didn't do their part and now you don't understand them anyway. i.e. you've been learning English for 12 years for nothing.
(DIR) Post #9pDPuNA5JKwkPv16Om by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T09:11:01Z
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@Wolf480pl ah, I see. Well then you're in exactly the same boat I am ;)
(DIR) Post #9pDQ4Zj1SGPuHIDvbE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-22T09:12:50Z
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@Wolf480pl ... but at least, like me, you've got the option of attending any of the *huge* number of tech conferences where English is the main language. When you get to those, you're streets ahead of where I'd be even if I'd been studying Chinese hardout since we first decided to come here a couple of years ago.
(DIR) Post #9pDSN8RbJDSb4t3K6a by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2019-11-22T09:38:33Z
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@strypeySounds like an #Australian #university, tbh.
(DIR) Post #9pFTT5WpYCaY2ioy6i by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-23T09:00:04Z
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Here's the program for #Netizen21http://caa-ins.org/archives/5895/2
(DIR) Post #9pFTeOIY6cgdRQWxfc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-23T09:00:17Z
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I got lost on the way back to venue yesterday so I missed the third panel. Today I couldn't get on the WiFi until now, so I took lots of handwritten notes. Watch out for a long blog post. Fingers crossed for more live-posting tomorrow.
(DIR) Post #9pGuYVE2KUXb6nnS4G by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T01:38:28Z
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Panel #1 for #Netizen21 day three is on media archaeology.
(DIR) Post #9pGvYqi8Xy8LhObZ56 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T01:49:47Z
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Michael Goddard. Focusing on #VR. Recycling of media modes using new waves of technology. "Claims to novelty" reflect cultural amnesia. Media technology develops in spirals rather than linear progression. Presence is the "holy grail" of VR. Part of a history of "audiovision", Zelinski. "post-cinematic", still primarily concerned with sight and sound. References #HowardRheingold 'Virtual Reality', #ArthurKroker 'Spasm'.
(DIR) Post #9pGwA2eJ7jFtRIY4GW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T01:56:28Z
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#GeneYoungblood imagined #ExpandedCinema. Reference to #JohnWhitney, an artist who worked on #Hitchcock's #Vertigo. References #GeorgeLucas as a pioneer of #VFX.
(DIR) Post #9pGwmByys229OHPTKi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T02:03:22Z
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#CatherineHayles warns against the fantasies of disembodiment and lack of materiality of #cyberspace, citing the relationship between VR and #posthumanism. #MichaelHeim describes VR flashbacks from an artist project in 1991-3 that sound like psychedelic flashbacks, "alternate world syndrome".
(DIR) Post #9pGxYMOPT8bTZqGwWu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T02:12:04Z
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In the 2000s mobile computing eclipsed VR in the public media imaginary, but higher processing power led to the current resurgence of VR. VR is limited as a kind of "#BubbleVision". But returning to fine arts as a source of new VR aesthetics could break new ground. In those contexts, only part of the story is in the media, much of it is located in the theory that prompts it, and the conversations it provokes.
(DIR) Post #9pGykyNe9ogIp5Ueae by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T02:25:36Z
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#LuXinyu. #NewMedia dominated in China by 4 huge companies: includingTenCent and AliBaba. Users as #DigitalLabour, digitalization turns humans into productive capital. Beyond media political economy of selling attention to advertisers. Wealth flowing to BAT companies from the poorer segment of the society. Public vs. private provision of utilities. Critically refencing #LongTail theory
(DIR) Post #9pGzNxCuS9EQTi3huy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T02:32:38Z
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#AliBaba acquires stake in 2013 in #SinoWeibo. Like Titter, the #IPO of Weibo has pivoted it from a digital public square into an e-commerce promotional space. AliBaba and WeChat are converging on similar #UX and affordances. #SharingEconomy as"#DigitalCommunism" becomes a cover for fraud and labour precarity, socializing the costs of reproducing labour. Similar to "democracy" as a cover for classic #NeoLiberalism.
(DIR) Post #9pH1Gsd7GyQKAB4UgC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T02:53:45Z
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Future #MediaArchaeology scholars will have significant things to say about the development of the #NewChina as a producer and product of #NewMedia. The #DigitalUtopia is still in a class conflict with #SurveillanceCapitalism, and the outcomes of that struggle will have a huge impact on the future of the political-economic project that is modern China, and in turn on the unfolding of the globalized human society of the 21st century.
(DIR) Post #9pH2Bnc4b7SX6sizVA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:04:04Z
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So what fine arts contributes to the aesthetic development of new media, like cinema in the 1960s, is an exploration of process and the possibilities of what can be done with new creative tools and experiences, outside of a tunnel vision focused only on producing marketable products. There would be no #StarWars products - movies or merch - without the artistic experiments that prefigured cinema VFX.
(DIR) Post #9pH349l8TV6TQssoV6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:13:52Z
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#SakuradaKazuya. Privacy violation as the rent extracted for using "free" net platforms. Referencing both anarchist and marxist understandings of the basis of exchange of labour and its products in society, "networkers", not "netizens". References Japanese anarchists publishing in late 19th and early 20th century. Some were keen on using #Esperanto for cross-cultural communication. Working in typgraphy, the new media of their time.
(DIR) Post #9pH3oIF9GOTN4AvALg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:22:12Z
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Japanese Anarchist Federation active after #WW2, dissolved in the student struggles of the 1960s. Like many anarchists in the post-war period, Yamaga (?) was active in peace movements and wrote for various newspapers inside and beyond the anarchist movement. He was also a keen artist. Famous for being jailed for translating and publishing banned works by western anarchist writers.
(DIR) Post #9pH4v3fnvtnLrLB9FY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:34:29Z
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Anarchist library and archives located near Mt Fuji. Much of their collection is flyers and pamphlets published before and during WW2. Many Japanese anarchists worked for publishing companies, allowing a lot of materials to be printed and bound. A lot of Yamaga's work can be found at that library, including drawings depicting his early life and political events. Much of this information is still not reflected in official histories.
(DIR) Post #9pH51BGmbPZN9mOX0S by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:35:40Z
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"Dreaming cannot be banned or prohibited"#SakuradaKazuya
(DIR) Post #9pH6RosM4RelTZEcy0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T03:51:44Z
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Discussion for panel 3. Michael mentions experimental audiovisual creators whose work doesn't fit into conventional media categories like "cinema" or "TV". Prof. Lu mentions media as the shared imaginary of a national conversation. All societies have inequality of speech between most people and those in power. So what role will new media play in that conflict. Sakurada Sensei asked about anarchist media online, they definitely exist π
(DIR) Post #9pH7TH0B5FQax39QKu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T04:03:15Z
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Michael asked about #AngLee 120 frames per second cinema, points out that more realism is not necessarily an advantage. Sceptical of attempts to build "empathy machines". Prof Lu points out the paradox of privacy rights concepts vs. consent to use personal data by opting in to platforms. Is the data property? If so, whose is it? References #DataSovereignty issues of private corporations holding data on millions of Chinese people.
(DIR) Post #9pH7joT0QgWbNHWQ4m by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T04:06:17Z
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Sakurada Sensei references Brecht quote about how the radio receiver can become a radio transmitter and the challenge for the digital age is to keep reminding people that their handheld and laptop data consumption devices can also be used for data production and distribution.
(DIR) Post #9pHIKzeqmcxuL5QhrU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T06:04:52Z
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Panel #3 at #Netizen21 is on #PlatformCapitalism, with #NathanSchneider and #OliviaSolis.
(DIR) Post #9pHJ4HBsRaFnkNTDY8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T06:13:10Z
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#NathanSchneider is talking about the #BuyTwitter campaign and how it came out of an existing #PlatformCooperative movement. #SharingEconomy corporations tried to convince regulators to share ownership with their users, as tech companies have done with workers, but #DemocraticManagement? Exit options, acquisition or IPO. What about an #ExitToCommunity option.
(DIR) Post #9pHOCtJh4jzI533OHA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T07:10:42Z
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Building accountability into startups and avoiding user-serving companies becoming zombies to investors. Strategies:* user buyout: a trust or co-ops buys all shares on behalf of users. User representation and/or shared profits. #NIO gave shares to user trust.* federation: #VISA as cooperative of user businesses. Voluntary (#ActivityPub etc.) or through AntiTrust action.* tokenization: ownership is traded as crypto-tokens, under company control, or permisionless.#ZebrasUnite.com
(DIR) Post #9pHOJ2pmbP2VKtztgm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T07:11:40Z
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#Netizen21 Q&A:https://app.sli.do/event/3zuol9vy/live/questions
(DIR) Post #9pHS46cGesAKXSo8mm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T07:54:00Z
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The Young Scholars forum at #Netizen21 took up day #1 of the conference and the fourth panel is finishing up day #3, also focusing on Platform Capitalism.
(DIR) Post #9pHT9FSzHRK9ODU0n2 by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2019-11-24T08:06:09Z
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@strypeyHi Strypey,Here's a question. Is any business model based on #webTechnology and #automation really a sustainable #business? Think #Uber.Especially now that we have ways to create #distributedSystems with #immutableDatabases (like #blockchains). ;)
(DIR) Post #9pHTGbwA8Lbn6kdkZc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:07:27Z
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Speaker #1 is talking about how different standards of beauty between China and the west might actually represent a difference between political-economic ways of understanding beauty. Referencing #PierreBourdieu. Avantgarde looks vs. classical beauty standards. Difference as beauty. References #WilliamJGoldman. Declining western hegemony surfaces in changing fashion. Referencing #HansBelting. Net imagery challenging hegemony of beauty magazines and other institutional fashion media.
(DIR) Post #9pHU4W0kRNg3Cwa6HA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:16:25Z
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Speaker #2 a social media analysis of "whining" comments as a form of political participation, an alternative to street protest. He seems to be proposing the creation of feedback tools for companies, like video game platform companies.
(DIR) Post #9pHVH5jFZJBFPhxPyS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:29:55Z
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Speaker #3 is #LeonChung, talking about 'Imprisoning Platforms'. #KarlMarx is right, in that people are suffering, but there may be "no universal grammar of suffering". "Platform" is often used as a euphemism for "monopoly". So "the platform is like a prison", no easy way out, "but jail is an authentic place" as opposed to unrealised dreams of freedom. Like the "prison of language", maybe we have no choice but to "accept the prison" of the net, and the loss of control over our attention?
(DIR) Post #9pHWiDWCoaCNLUM1qK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:46:02Z
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Speaker #4 is #CaoXuefei talking about independent music in "#PostSocialist" digital platforms. #NetEase Cloud Music. Cross-cultural vs. exclusively Chinese platforms. Comment threads as "collective memory and individual emotions/ nostalgia". #Pharmakon "ruin and becoming", minority rapper and comment thread discussing politics of their people. #QQmusic as a precedent, #Feizhliu or "fringe" youth. Music platform comments make space for #PurpleProse.
(DIR) Post #9pHWrDctmb6eHpmFkG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:47:41Z
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#Hantology, the use of memories of defeated state socialism to close down postcapitalist visioning.#CapitalistRealism
(DIR) Post #9pHXnzalbcbNqSo0Ku by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T08:56:50Z
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Speaker 5 is talking about #AutomatedAddiction to livestreaming platforms. 58 year old livestreamer used filters to look like a young woman. Referencing #Foucalt, #Deleuze et al, to discuss compression of time while online. Art can create platforms of perception to shape possible or likely ways for people to think about their worlds. Tech platforms do this by using filters and dopamine pumping to shape users' "long-term desires".
(DIR) Post #9pHY7Uz17PMmhmRwUC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:01:44Z
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Referencing #Stiegler, #BulletScreen, "visualization of ugliness". Rule-based framework. #LignesdeTemps, four colour coding system for user comments. Coding can be visualized and navigated as a map of the discourse. "New kinds of systemic authorities and institutions" to protect users from addictive platform owners. #TimBernersLee launches a social charter for the web.
(DIR) Post #9pHYImQUbbg5zPgFrE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:03:50Z
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Overall French pomo seems to be much more influential than I expected in this segment of the Chinese academy.
(DIR) Post #9pHZ2p3r8oxhTy2zRo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:12:12Z
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How does #TimeWellSpent and FB's pivot to "privacy" represent not a break with Platform Capitalism, but a change of strategy or even just PR? Even if they are cynical moves, how might #TechFreedom movements use them as a lever?
(DIR) Post #9pHZRMArgBJt8A1Z2W by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:16:35Z
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How might we cultivate personal and collective habits of taking a #StepBack, to look at layers of wider context, nested inside each other. For example, we want federated platforms. Why? Because we want freedom to communicate and deliberate. Why? Because we believe the #WisdomOfCrowds can be leveraged to solve otherwise intractable social problems. Why?
(DIR) Post #9pHaXaKi3AaQjdA9ei by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:29:03Z
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The main geographical boundary on the net is linguistic, not territorial. The Great Firewall is very much an exception. Mostly, users cluster on platforms on the basis of common languages, and to a lesser degree, timezone.
(DIR) Post #9pHb1zTl7erLPYtUxs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T09:34:25Z
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A questioner challenges the use of medical language like "addiction" to describe media, and asks whether if this is a legitimate frame, is internet addiction a public health issue? Shen Jie answers that this discourse is already out there, and suggests it may be a useful metaphor despite its limitations.
(DIR) Post #9pHeaeXhFu1ITYxK08 by jordila@social.ingobernable.net
2019-11-24T10:14:13Z
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@strypey Yes, indeed. I never tried #LSD, nor #peyote or #ayahuascar ... let's say it loud: Β« i declare myslef an Internet fun addict Β»
(DIR) Post #9pHhDS77bARN8C9cye by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-24T10:43:54Z
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@strypeyWe want federayed platforms. Why?Because we want to make it easy to migrate between servers without losing all your friends. Why? Because we don't want servrr owners to have power over us."Wisdom of crowds" sounds bullshit to me, and from what I'be seen, crowds tend to lynch innocent people.
(DIR) Post #9pHhWo7zyUA2uPnGwi by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-24T10:47:26Z
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@strypey>a diverse collection of independently deciding individualsThat's not a crowd.The book title is a misnomer IMO, not that I've read it.
(DIR) Post #9pHpdgqKG32ZyWJud6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T12:18:05Z
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@dsfgs how many existing P2P apps have you tested? The concept is great but there are serious engineering and UX challenges to be overcome.
(DIR) Post #9pHrBeK8EMfrxh1DW4 by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2019-11-24T12:35:30Z
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@strypeyA good few now :)Yes they can and are being actively improved over time, but it's not disrupting the services.
(DIR) Post #9pHrZQpI47QJ3Avuj2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T12:39:56Z
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@Wolf480pl I'm think you might mean "mob" rather than crowd? Crowd, as its used in that phrase refers to the collective author of Wikipedia, for example. A large-scale collaboration that replaces firms and employees with "many pieces, loosely coupled".
(DIR) Post #9pHrlPs9RCBnZCzBq4 by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-11-24T12:42:02Z
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@strypey dunno, for me, "crowd" is (literally) what I have to go through at the metro station in peak hours.Hm... now that I think of it, yeah, in a crowd everyone minds their own business, so crowds are very much unlike lynch mobs.
(DIR) Post #9pHvBYBNSmFyjR8FlI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T13:20:25Z
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@Wolf480pl Yeah that's the more common usage of crowd. The aggregation of people at a busy public transport station or maybe a concert. 'Wisdom of crowds' is an rather poetic usage. Another word similarly used slightly outside its common meaning is "swarm" as #RickFalkvinge uses it in '#Swarmwise'.
(DIR) Post #9pI2DjrFizELCVi32e by wftl@mastodon.social
2019-11-24T14:37:27Z
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@strypey: I read that as "French porno". :-)
(DIR) Post #9pI8pSN7mi9HhLzBOy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-24T15:53:08Z
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@wftl LOL Not too far off the mark ;)
(DIR) Post #9pNGapaBTuMXUFURs0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-27T03:13:38Z
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I was too busy live-posting here or scratching down notes to notice, but my wife was fascinated to watch the way #Slido was being used at #Netizen21. A lot of the audience were using it during the talks to share their thoughts about what the speakers were talking about, and upvoting each others' comments. This is similar to the way I imagined #Loomio being used at #OpenSourceOpenSociety back in 2015. Except that Loomio would make it easier to keep those conversations going after the event.
(DIR) Post #9rKA2puviaBGioLz6W by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-01-24T11:00:24Z
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@jordila I've tried 2 out of the 3, and for me they were much more fun and I insightful than any aspect of PCs or the net. But #entheogens are anti-addictive, unlike addictive drugs like alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, opiates, and amphetamines.
(DIR) Post #9syPbice73Xaef9Tyy by funwhilelost@social.coop
2020-03-13T18:55:07Z
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@strypey the user buy-out option recently came up as "Exit to Community" and is being actively worked on at the MEDLab https://www.colorado.edu/lab/medlab/2020/03/06/exit-community-poster-available-now
(DIR) Post #9syiCRQMoeLdCo4KjA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-03-13T22:23:41Z
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@funwhilelost looks good, is this something you were involved in @ntnsndr ?
(DIR) Post #9syo4SHAMi5pFsLAFU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2020-03-13T23:29:25Z
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@ntnsndr I can't remember if you mentioned it at the conference, is an exit to worker ownership part of the #ExitToCommunity message?@funwhilelost
(DIR) Post #9t0YYWJmgtnTWqnbf6 by ntnsndr@social.coop
2020-03-14T19:44:58Z
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@strypey @funwhilelost Yup, that's my lab's work:) Worker ownership is definitely part of the conversation, but for the most part the E2C idea is focused on tech startups whose communities extend far beyond the employment relation. In those, often, focusing just on employees means including only a small managerial class.
(DIR) Post #AGDv7dQt0VPZLJdlZo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-02-07T05:27:29Z
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A couple of 2018 articles about #BitSoil:LarbitsSisters Win Inaugural New Media Interactive Art Prize https://www.artforum.com/news/larbitssisters-win-inaugural-new-media-interactive-art-prize-76574BitSoil: My Data, your Profits? No, thank you!https://ars.electronica.art/aeblog/en/2018/06/20/bitsoil/#LarbitsSisters #DataFarming
(DIR) Post #AGDwSAW7oF29hMRhey by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-02-07T05:42:21Z
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Yu Chuan is one of the authors of a 2018 paper, 'Trends in the Diffusion of Misinformation on Social Media': https://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/fake-news-trends.pdfIs "Chris Yu" their English name?#YuChuan #Misinformation #SocialMedia