Post 9os4hRj2qwilRyCod6 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #9orlxx5o6H42Eo0ehM by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-11T22:30:11Z
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Remember that time in the distant past when free software was seen as a threat to capitalism instead of a source of unpaid labor for capitalists to siphon from?
(DIR) Post #9orlxxMT6KOL4TnxfU by dielel8@zetsubou.xn--q9jyb4c
2019-11-11T22:34:43.429749Z
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@slightlyflightyoneCringe
(DIR) Post #9ornX1Hac6HNK3o2ZU by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-11T22:39:01Z
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@dielel8 Go die in a hole, Nazi.
(DIR) Post #9ornX1gl6WPca7a8no by dielel8@zetsubou.xn--q9jyb4c
2019-11-11T22:52:15.501736Z
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@slightlyflightyoneRead siege by James MasonWhites are superiorMen are superior
(DIR) Post #9orvoHYu8kCmMseCYq by cybertiger78@mas.to
2019-11-12T00:24:59Z
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@slightlyflightyoneYeah the 00's.
(DIR) Post #9orx7eFW75LcBhNSGO by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T00:35:59Z
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@cybertiger78 Except for Sun and Apple, that was the case going back to the 1980’s, wasn’t it?
(DIR) Post #9orx7eamq0MTFfKRPs by cybertiger78@mas.to
2019-11-12T00:39:41Z
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@slightlyflightyoneI'm not to savvy on tech history. I just know whatever I have experienced over the years. Talking about the 80's,since I was a kid then,I wasn't even aware of such things even happening in those days. So this is new info to me :)
(DIR) Post #9orxOuyBCUqgy4VEQq by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T00:40:20Z
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@cybertiger78 I wasn’t born yet. This is just based on what I have read and heard from other hackers.
(DIR) Post #9orxOvna7NxvXUYHYG by cybertiger78@mas.to
2019-11-12T00:42:48Z
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@slightlyflightyoneOk. I'm pretty much way outside those loops or circles of those people to begin with. So,when something gets brought up online,a lot of the time I find myself going "whoa really?" in a state of amazement and disbelief.
(DIR) Post #9os4hRj2qwilRyCod6 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-11T22:56:46Z
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@slightlyflightyone wonder how many of the FOSS developers who called "weak" OSS licenses "freer" than copyleft, rejecting its use, are among those who complain they're being exploited... Seems to me, the only way to protect devs and users from corporate exploitation is, ironically, Free Software *not mere open source*, namely copyleft licenses.
(DIR) Post #9os4hSmGwQteiGiuIa by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-11T23:05:42Z
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@lightweight Yeah. I always have been highly skeptical of “permissive” licensing for this reason.It definitely has becoming extremely popular to promote by anybody who isn’t a leftist, but still supports FLOSS.
(DIR) Post #9os4hU08ONZyVYDUXo by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-11-12T02:04:35.604037Z
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@slightlyflightyone @lightweight I'm not convinced that copyleft makes a difference here, but I do agree that the relationship between megas and the foss community is abusive and exploitative in a lot of cases.
(DIR) Post #9os4xK5l0DZ2PMOqe0 by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T01:36:33Z
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@deejoe @lightweight @kinsey A huge amount of free software work is community-driven, not done by individuals or businesses.Your argument assumes that a person is able to make the call to commercially license code, which code only be the case if it is written by a single individual or a business.
(DIR) Post #9os4xKOtr2sPMjM8Tw by deejoe@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-11-12T01:53:17Z
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@slightlyflightyone @lightweight @kinsey sorry, I'm still struggling to understand how you think copyright and licensing work.
(DIR) Post #9os4xKsg4KhCr5Hutc by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T02:03:13Z
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@deejoe @lightweight @kinsey Lol. Fuck you, you condescending ass.
(DIR) Post #9os4xLPI74meUEXxjM by amsomniac@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-11-12T02:04:47Z
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@slightlyflightyone @deejoe @lightweight @kinsey eduardo siddon's blog has a lot of good posts about this
(DIR) Post #9os4xLvYB8aW6Hdj0q by mewmew@blob.cat
2019-11-12T02:07:29.264391Z
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@amsomniac @slightlyflightyone @deejoe @lightweight @kinsey c'mon, do you really have to resort to that?
(DIR) Post #9os5gg9Bqd9RqJdIOm by spud@fedi.offrealms.space
2019-11-11T22:42:46Z
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@slightlyflightyone remember when everyone thought google was better than microsoft because it was open source?
(DIR) Post #9os65kkTsQL9Lz21Gy by kinsey@cybre.space
2019-11-11T23:31:17Z
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@slightlyflightyonethe reasoning for that shit is so fucked too. "copyleft licenses are Less Free because they restrict the Freedom to use things for commercial purposes", and it's just like... therein lies the problem with promoting "freedom" for its own sake. it's the same logic that criticizes socialist countries with strong protections for workers as lacking in "economic freedom" (freedom to exploit working people for profit)@lightweight
(DIR) Post #9os65lciclj24CPKoS by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-11T23:36:17Z
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@kinseyIt always read a lot like a paradox of tolerance take to me. “So much for the tolerant free software developers!”@lightweight
(DIR) Post #9os65mqa4iPLrTtv3g by deejoe@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-11-12T00:36:37Z
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@slightlyflightyone @kinsey @lightweight I've got a lot of respect for the folks who not only are maximalists about permissive/non-reciprocal licensing and who *also* don't have the time of day for any proprietary stuff.
(DIR) Post #9os65oBt4z2s1qsRuK by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T00:39:01Z
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@deejoe @kinsey @lightweight I have virtually no respect for that view tbh. Personal choices don’t force systemic change.
(DIR) Post #9os65pPOYFRbo2CkbI by kinsey@cybre.space
2019-11-12T00:42:23Z
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@slightlyflightyone @deejoe @lightweight yeah that confused me tbh? like i'm having trouble figuring out what the thing is there that warrants "lots of respect"
(DIR) Post #9os65qsr4CbUNgzn9s by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-11-12T00:44:44Z
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@kinsey @slightlyflightyone @deejoe I'm similarly struggling. Usually permissive licenses are preferred by people who have future proprietary ambitions (e.g. want to be bought out by a corporate). I, personally, think that proprietary software is on the verge of unethical: https://davelane.nz/reflections-proprietary-software
(DIR) Post #9os65s9CMvGsIfeMGu by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-11-12T00:48:11Z
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@lightweight @kinsey @deejoe Proprietary software is entirely based on the concept of being able to enforce exclusive ownership of an idea. I would call that inherently unethical.
(DIR) Post #9os65tJW237NuxU6zY by worm@kawen.space
2019-11-12T02:20:09.873088Z
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@slightlyflightyone @deejoe @kinsey @lightweight Licensing, as such.