Post 9ooCW5MPEMG1YD1e6a by realcaseyrollins@qoto.org
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 (DIR) Post #9ojst2UjHBNVbjkMds by qt008@mastodon.social
       2019-11-07T21:40:07Z
       
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       Capitalism didn't give us the internet. Large-scale cooperation, open protocols, and free software gave us the internet. Capitalism gave us mobile sites that don't work because fifteen ads cover the screen.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ojuliFGMfK4gc99rk by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
       2019-11-08T03:35:39.772813Z
       
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       @qt008 gotta love that military tech
       
 (DIR) Post #9onOFvpzsAgDfuyE4G by anarchist_memes@anarchism.space
       2019-11-09T17:20:30Z
       
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       @xj9 @qt008 Military tech can be good, if it survives the m-i complex clustfuck of contractors and lobbying and cost overruns. If it makes it through that, it should, in theory, serve a specific purpose and do that thing well.
       
 (DIR) Post #9onOFwMxtb3FKAOYSG by bulkington@radical.town
       2019-11-09T19:47:30Z
       
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       @anarchist_memes @xj9 @qt008 you mean like operate a global network that was engineered for surveillance and political disruption from the beginning?https://surveillancevalley.com/
       
 (DIR) Post #9onZ2dhL6SYr9BmjfE by anarchist_memes@anarchism.space
       2019-11-09T21:20:33Z
       
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       @bulkington @xj9 @qt008 The claims that book makes sound far-fetched. I don't think anybody at DARPA could have predicted facebook.
       
 (DIR) Post #9onZ2eGmyeuwv8N2v2 by bulkington@radical.town
       2019-11-09T21:39:49Z
       
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       @anarchist_memes @xj9 @qt008 https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/The internet could not have been a bigger success for the intelligence community if they had planned it all out in advance. But they didn't. They just pushed forward with those motivations and goals at every step along the way, discovering the path forward as they went. But this is where we ended up.We are under 24/7 surveillance and the moment this government turns overtly police state on the middle class, silicon valley is going to tell them absolutely everything about us. Just look at how happily they make money with China.Read the book. It's good. Things are not virtuous or positive just because they produce cool technology.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ooCW5MPEMG1YD1e6a by realcaseyrollins@qoto.org
       2019-11-10T05:13:21Z
       
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       @qt008 Capitalism gave us jobs that gave us money to invest in large-scale cooperation, open protocols, and create and set up free software.