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(DIR) Post #9ogOAwq7MNsvECvmJk by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T10:46:18.447733Z
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So glad to see so many new-comers from India on the Fediverse ! Welcome everyone ! I hope you'll like it.I read something vague about yet another issue on Twitter but what exactly prompted this seemingly sudden interest in our federation ?
(DIR) Post #9ogP0o1HOi6svpsaZM by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T10:52:09Z
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@alice one thing is this https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/other/consign-freedom-of-thought-to-dustbin-of-human-history/articleshow/71931601.cms
(DIR) Post #9ogP2wDZt4NawCeH44 by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T10:54:43Z
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@alice this is my reference https://twitter.com/BhavanaVarun/status/1191924890728910849 - I think @BhavanaVarun has more
(DIR) Post #9ogP2wRl2LipeBHbAO by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T10:56:04.684802Z
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@saper @BhavanaVarun Thank you for this explanation !
(DIR) Post #9ogPpitIE4YVnHQHvE by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:04:51Z
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We had to find alternatives for microblogging. A lot of dissent voices, human rights activists those working for marginal communities in India, dalit tribal activists. Their twitter handles were being repeatedly targeted, either restricted or permanently banned. Its heartbreaking that in a democratic country like ours, we are facing attacks from all the pro government mediums. @alice @saper Thank you! Its a small step but I think voices needed to be heard. Couldn't have been better than now!
(DIR) Post #9ogPyXctTbSJSoxPns by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:06:27Z
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@alice @saper We had to find alternatives for microblogging. A lot of dissent voices, human rights activists those working for marginal communities in India, dalit tribal activists. Their twitter handles were being repeatedly targeted, either restricted or permanently banned. Its heartbreaking that in a democratic country like ours, we are facing attacks from all the pro government mediums. Thank you! Its a small step but I think voices needed to be heard. Couldn't have been better than now!
(DIR) Post #9ogQD7Cvyzpbs5lRqa by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:09:04Z
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@alice @saper We had to find alternatives for microblogging. Dissent voices, human rights activists & those working for marginal communities in India, Dalit-Tribal activists, their twitter handles were being repeatedly targeted, either restricted or permanently banned. Its heartbreaking that in a democratic country like ours, we are facing attacks from all pro govt. mediums. Thank you! Its a small step but I think voices needed to be heard. @alice @saper
(DIR) Post #9ogQGYl00kdoBQLA12 by _Sattam_@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:09:42Z
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@alice Twitter is being a lapdog to the govt. They have sold their ethics and conscience in return of money. Became apparent when they suspended senior supreme.court advocate Sanjay Hegde who is the voice of the most marginalised.
(DIR) Post #9ogQiT030gc8R4gbei by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:14:27Z
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@saper @alice Spot on !!
(DIR) Post #9ogQkHLXJALqs9bLhQ by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T11:15:06.186539Z
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@BhavanaVarun They definitely need to. I hope this alternative platform will better suit the needs of those voices needing to be heard. The federation of various «instances» makes it virtually impossible for censorship to exist : the worst that can happen to you is to need to move to a different one.But for that to exist, we need instances to remain balanced, so I hope as time passes more people will open their own instances and not all stay on mastodon.social.
(DIR) Post #9ogQzoHx70gNNuKaJM by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:17:52Z
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@alice Bonjour !! Merci beaucoup !!
(DIR) Post #9ogRTB31ZZkQMwLsMS by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:23:11Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun I think this makes sense. I'm also kind of mindful this sudden explosion of Indian users onto the platform can feel very intrusive.
(DIR) Post #9ogRVL5TDXKC5KWimG by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:18:57Z
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@alice I have this fascination for French, but haven't gotten around to learning it properly. It is such a beautiful language.
(DIR) Post #9ogRVLqGPYksQSQ5iK by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T11:23:36.226976Z
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@varkychen Thank you. Well, your «Bonjour» sounded very convincing. And without the trace of an accent on top of that 😉You should be able to read quite some french here on instances like framapiaf.org or eldritch.cafe.There's no real rule as to the language used, of course a lot of content is in english but there's (at least in my part of the fediverse) quite a good number of french, german and spanish too. Looks like I'll have to finally learn that devanagari to enjoy some toots 😁 I've seen one written in it earlier and that's an excellent thing.
(DIR) Post #9ogRmdkJ68xCsPsTGC by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:26:43Z
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@alice We have more languages and dialects than even I can imagine :0060:
(DIR) Post #9ogS27hfzzGU8G1vRQ by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T11:29:31.969427Z
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@varkychen I hope people don't feel that way ! The Fediverse doesn't belong to us, it belong to people who use it and make it what it is. You have as much right as a newcomer as all of us. Anyway, there's a «feature» that allows people to block toots in languages they don't want to see so if anyone complains, *let me know* 👿 @BhavanaVarun
(DIR) Post #9ogSDUqaI8Hz62cUhk by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T11:31:35.344606Z
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@varkychen Yeah, apparently. That's what I understood from the catalogue of movie platform eros now ^^' But I like the name «malayalam» because it's a palindrome (and also because I met someone very cool who was speaking it).
(DIR) Post #9ogSUlskD3O0qsrqGO by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:34:42Z
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@varkychen I think those who understand the gravity of situation, won't mind it.I have seen a lot of support. Specially admins and those involved in the creation of independent platform. Dialogue and inclusiveness matters. Those who are humane and stand against divisiveness will always support our fight. Those who don't, its their choice. :)
(DIR) Post #9ogSyx6F4CtmKYZXYu by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:40:09Z
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@alice Thank you! I appreciate the way you think and try to bring diversity on board. Any platform that wishes to be successful, needs users. So I don't think, anyone would want to deny the services. If they are! Then, the founder should take care of them. He has clearly stated that he is against any form of discrimination, racism, xenophobia ir hate. With such a genuine thinking in mind, I feel its a greater cause and we all must support it. Free speech has to be taken seriously!
(DIR) Post #9ogT8R8Mllye5Q5XVY by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T11:18:35Z
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@BhavanaVarun @alice > Data owner-ship is more transparent, and the lack of centralisation could makethe overall system more robust against technical, legal or regulatoryattacks.@imcpaperauthors write in https://emilianodc.com/PAPERS/mastodonIMC19.pdfNot sure about that but we keep on trying
(DIR) Post #9ogTZzm858eDLLpPcG by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:46:51Z
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@alice Ah!! Me too, Mallu from Kerala !!! What were the odds you'd pick Malayalam ??? :ablobspin: :ablobspin:
(DIR) Post #9ogTqQuswI7i9alIEi by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T11:42:57Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun @varkychen we've had waves of refugees from other platforms, this has become part of our culture of sorts. I like it even if people post using a writing system I can't read (farsi for example).
(DIR) Post #9ogTujkqqDkBjn7YAK by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:50:33Z
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@saper @alice @BhavanaVarun Thank you for being so accomodative.
(DIR) Post #9ogU2vAwGMrVTWE2iW by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T11:52:05Z
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@saper How beautifully you've put this. Thank you! Well said! Its horrendous, what we saw on social media, right wing trolls called for mass extermination of minorities & people who don't support their view points. We along with our friends tried our level best to create awareness. Activists too, reported them several times. No use! Hate speech peddled, reached millions & the political social atmosphere in India, its worst! Hope, we all understand, why we are here. It wasn't fun but necessity.
(DIR) Post #9ogV0SiZCFtAafLW4W by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T11:48:17Z
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@BhavanaVarun @alice besides: sadly many people on this site associate #freespeech with a buzzword that has been hijacked by the far-right people in the United States. I am glad to hear this new wave is bringing back the true meaning and raise the importance of free speech against censorship.
(DIR) Post #9ogV0T9rYlitxK7JcO by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T12:02:50Z
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@saper @alice Hope, people get to learn also. While we talk about free speech as buzzword, it is one of the universal human rights, still denied to people in several countries. Those in privileges, deny this right to citizens within same country. Media/newspapers aren't reliable anymore as they are being sold out. People had no other option but to find ways to share news, happenings or incidents. I would be contented, if people could freely connect & share their stories of humanity with others.
(DIR) Post #9ogXK4fEXNp7gmGa3s by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T12:28:48.443706Z
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@varkychen Hihi ^^ I don't know. One in two-hundred-something, or is it even worse than that ? 😉
(DIR) Post #9ogXb4Arbznb5oAD3Y by atamariya@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T12:16:31Z
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@alice pro people Indian accounts are being arbitrarily suspended by Twitter.
(DIR) Post #9ogXcQ5nbbevMQRLpA by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T12:32:07.915479Z
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@atamariya That's an outrage.
(DIR) Post #9ogZNC39jWiBNB4T0S by ngaravind@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T12:51:00Z
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@alice https://mastodon.social/@ngaravind/103090210240775925
(DIR) Post #9ogZNiR1KKoZoSTye8 by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T12:51:53.083653Z
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@ngaravind Thanks.
(DIR) Post #9ogahEzUbnO6EvTs36 by varkychen@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T13:06:36Z
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@alice Rhetorical question...
(DIR) Post #9ogjC7ieUf4oIVqBcG by privvcy@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T14:26:41Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun It's not totally clear how to create a different instance. So far I've observed that some good people have found mastodon.social and mstdn.social. Does a new instance need a dedicated web server, for example?
(DIR) Post #9ogjC8JAIuHe7kvLWq by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T14:41:47.714758Z
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@privvcy Yeah, absolutely, if you mean what I think you mean.The main difference between Twitter and the Fediverse (not just Mastodon, I'll go back to this later) is that Twitter is a (huge) closed software that the people of Twitter have deployed somewhere particular whereas the Fediverse is made of free software applications functionally equivalent to Twitter which have been deployed on independent servers and which happen to exchange messages with one another (they *federate*).Now I say the Fediverse and not Mastodon because there are actually separate implementations of the same protocol which are completely unrelated, not a fork from each other that still federate.So when we're talking of an instance, we're talking about the full stack : you've got someplace nice (let's say pingu.to) and you've decided to run Mastodon there so you install the software and expose it through - yes - a web server.Now I hope I'm not completely mistaken about the meaning of your question; if it was about purely technical dimensioning, no, you could perfectly proxy various instances running on the same server (or not, for that matter) throughout the same web server, there's not a lot of work for the web server itself except I suppose if your instance starts to count hundred of thousands of users (I know of two instances which happened to be running physically on the same server, administrated by the same person).But yeah, to sum up, to me an instance is a deployment of one of those pieces of software (Mastodon, Pleroma, GNU social…) exposed through a web server on a dedicated domain name.There's actually a very useful website that displays information about instances of various software that can federate.https://fediverse.network/@BhavanaVarun
(DIR) Post #9ogjJz7IMT9hvy7F8i by yoursvivek@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T14:43:14Z
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@alice Twitter went on ban spree locking some well known accounts (generally critical of govt) for frivolous reasons. Today some people 24 hour break on Twitter and stay connected on alternate platform. People have joined on many nodes including mstdn & Mastodon.Thanks for welcoming us.
(DIR) Post #9ogjUma9IykCFBlEUi by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T14:45:06.885316Z
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@yoursvivek Thank you for explanation too, the picture becomes clearer. But I hope you will all like the place and remain longer than 24 hours. Twitter don't deserve the power they have and they need you people more than you need them.
(DIR) Post #9ogju610BrUpkpOKgK by yoursvivek@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T14:49:46Z
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@alice We are here to stay.
(DIR) Post #9ogkBmhQkCev3nfgye by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T14:52:58.152452Z
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@yoursvivek Then welcome !! I hope you'll find a good medium of expression here.
(DIR) Post #9ogni0AcUlhdy6NXGq by Pandey_priyanka@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T15:17:31Z
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@alice fight against monopoly of Twitter 😊Twitter cannot be allowed to suppress voice social media gave voice that was not heard in MSM .
(DIR) Post #9ogogiwd9cbsCzn1g8 by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T15:43:17.824475Z
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@_Sattam_ Their having ever had ethics or a conscience remains to be proved to me, but ok : )
(DIR) Post #9ogt5ytDPMWAiWUWUi by vasdna@mstdn.social
2019-11-06T16:32:40Z
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@yoursvivek @alice I'm here to stay for sure. It's been a long long time since I've felt so peaceful and calm. First it was #faceBite and then #birdsite.. I was hopping from one SM to another. Depressed and tired of all the hate speak and bigotry..Tonight I'm at peace and believe it or not, have a smile on my face. :0140:
(DIR) Post #9ogtHoJoXKKXPHZcDg by Iwalkalone@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T16:30:52Z
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@alice This: https://m-timesofindia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.timesofindia.com/india/twitter-faces-backlash-for-suspending-lawyer-sanjay-hegdes-account/amp_articleshow/71935057.cms?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15730337534591&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s
(DIR) Post #9ogtHokOwTb6jk0qf2 by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T16:34:54.035662Z
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@Iwalkalone Thanks for the link, I was still missing a couple details in what happened.
(DIR) Post #9ogtdY4rbLKTPGwi48 by anivar@aana.site
2019-11-06T16:36:24Z
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@saper @alice there are more similar incidents targeted at critiques of India's ruling party (which engaged in snooping , illegal surveillance by Governmental actors (read pegasus), and asking internet companies to break encryption)
(DIR) Post #9ogtdYeJTXgZBDX1Jw by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T16:38:44.184616Z
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@anivar I see. That sounds serious : ( @saper
(DIR) Post #9oguX5nDwvaFttBFia by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T16:44:45Z
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@anivar @alice and I just returned from the radio studio where I was discussing the same happening pretty much in Russia...
(DIR) Post #9oguX69uaZjR2FnN56 by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T16:48:52.001706Z
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@saper Oh ? Interesting, are we to expect another wave of new fediversians ? @anivar
(DIR) Post #9oh2grR8ymIRuA1Osq by anivar@aana.site
2019-11-06T17:19:17Z
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@varkychen @alice there is aana.site as a malayalam Mastadon instance
(DIR) Post #9ohCcjM65CWZDxKXHk by anivar@aana.site
2019-11-06T16:52:41Z
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@saper @alice today this also happened. Twitter gave Blue tick mark and free follower count to Home Minister's son (who had less than 100 followers)Indian political ads is a major revenue for twitter (jack know troll boosted ads won't be counted as political ads) . The ruling party in India engaged in the art of creating a troll army to trend hashtags. https://www.newslaundry.com/2019/11/06/the-curious-case-of-jay-amitbhai-shahs-twitter-account-blue-tick-without-ever-tweeting-over-10000-followers-in-24-hours
(DIR) Post #9ohCekqDWttGPZNr5U by saper@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T16:53:25Z
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@alice @anivar They are already there - united by the friendly bot https://mastodonsocial.ru/@rf - it repeats all toots to the members of the group, pretty cool thing
(DIR) Post #9ohCrXHDH24q6e6b7g by goofysufi@mastodon.social
2019-11-06T17:13:04Z
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@alice much love to you and everybody on this thread! @saper @BhavanaVarun @varkychen
(DIR) Post #9ohCrXh5iomFOuDGSW by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T20:14:15.185648Z
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@goofysufi Thank you 🤗 Much love to you too 💜 @saper @BhavanaVarun @varkychen
(DIR) Post #9ohDp69nEVSRN42Jm4 by anivar@aana.site
2019-11-06T16:55:03Z
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@alice @saper I was asking Publications to set up atleast a bridge account. Let's wait and watch. Most migrated are activists, human rights defenders, reporters and lawyers , with average 50K + followers.
(DIR) Post #9ohDp6kf1QwrDPHlEu by Citiza@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-06T17:03:29.917673Z
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@anivar @alice @saper Welcome to all of you! That's great to know that you found a safe place to discuss freely when so many dangerous events take place in your country. Unfortunately from Europe it is quite hard to find news from India. But the few articles are really frightening. As a population with so many young people and so active your freedom of speech is very important for the world.
(DIR) Post #9oi26IcZ8lkSettFfU by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-07T05:48:21Z
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@alice A lot to learn and a lot to explore here. Choosing instances and engaging with larger group of people. We will need to understand this. Not all are techies here. Feedbacks and tutorials will come handy, I think. Thank you for summing it up.
(DIR) Post #9oiD15nOUptyvgfth2 by privvcy@mastodon.social
2019-11-07T05:42:03Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun Thanks very much. I'll explore and discover for myself what I need, now
(DIR) Post #9oiEbvImZgZ93JTyl6 by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-07T08:08:28.489667Z
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@BhavanaVarun Yeah, for sure.These are questions every newcomers ask themselves when discover the Fediverse. I think you must've all visited https://joinmastodon.org/ but I'm mentioning it just in case. There really are many explanations and how-tos out there, but I hope people won't hesitate to ask questions.Having the choice in instances can be confusing at first but really there aren't «good» answers. A good instance is one where you feel at your ease and can trust the admins.It's important that you can trust they won't abuse their power and read your private messages, sure, but it's also important that they have a decent moderation policy and will react properly when people signal misconducts on their instances : because if they ignore user reports and let toxic contents spread on their instance without doing anything about it, other instances will eventually just block the whole instance and you risk being alienated from the rest of the Fediverse. Apart from that, it's hard to notice any difference between being on the same instance as someone else or not. Looking at the instance name in a handle is a bit useful if someone risks being impersonated by someone else but it becomes natural to remember «@someone@somewhe.re» instead of simply «@someone». It's really just like email.Oh, yeah, and of course I initially mentioned equivalent software speaking the same protocol, but there are also specialized software like PeerTube or Plume. They're still able to speak that protocol to share contents but some are specialized in uploading videos, or blog posts, etc. and are less practical for everyday use, chitchat and such. You usually won't have an account only on those instances, but use them to share said contents and relay them with your main account.
(DIR) Post #9oiFJKo1cxVCbTnQYq by DesCoutinho@mastodon.social
2019-11-07T07:55:58Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun Had to google what a mastodon instance is. Still not entirely sure but hey I'm old I learn slow
(DIR) Post #9oiFJL8EPpfJc9FZ3Y by alice@bidule.menf.in
2019-11-07T08:16:22.773750Z
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@DesCoutinho Yeah, I know it can be a bit confusing at first but don't worry it'll soon feel natural : )I just wrote https://bidule.menf.in/notice/9oiEbKwjKJBgypsJiC and @prashere wrote a lot to familiarize the concept https://connect.fshm.in/objects/b67480f0-a757-4764-bbee-4153e088b8b8https://connect.fshm.in/objects/5363f1f5-31f2-4109-98a5-922990740972https://connect.fshm.in/objects/b33fb8ca-d9c8-41a2-a766-5ad77126161c…Don't hesitate to ask if you have specific questions about what you've understood so far !
(DIR) Post #9oiRX67GEtB2Y37fdo by BhavanaVarun@mstdn.social
2019-11-07T10:33:20Z
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@alice Interesting! Worth exploring! We'll figure it out, as we use them. Peertube, Fedilab, Fediverse are newer terms for all. Hope, they don't find much difficulty in understanding it. I'll share it with them. Also, Keep us posted for anything new y'all have planned.
(DIR) Post #9oiRsRWroylN2aHIjQ by noushad@mastodon.social
2019-11-07T10:36:14Z
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@alice @BhavanaVarun thank you!