Post 9o7cRrEnZhmtTLViSG by Phaserune@boosterfive.com
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(DIR) Post #9nxhexelFF5NgRH4Jk by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T21:22:35Z
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What madness is this?!Installing the complete, unmodified LibreOffice right on a Librem 5?!??This can't work... can it?
(DIR) Post #9nxhlfVF8aeVPO1LEm by debugninja@banana.dog
2019-10-15T21:23:46Z
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@lunduke even if it does work it will be pretty unusable...
(DIR) Post #9nxhmP4vgkw6l63ybo by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T21:23:52Z
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Well. LibreOffice successfully installed on the Librem 5!But... I mean... It won't actually run.... will it?
(DIR) Post #9nxhvRzgDd4cPGvCoS by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T21:25:33Z
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Holy smokes.LibreOffice runs on the Librem 5!AND IT WORKS.Saving files, opening files, typing... the UI is a bit cramped (it's a desktop app on a phone)... but hot-diggity! It works!
(DIR) Post #9nxiaugmR4bBHAqunY by GoatsLive@mastodon.social
2019-10-15T21:33:02Z
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@lunduke Now put obsstudio on it and live stream to the bird site. Just for fun and profit!
(DIR) Post #9nxicA5wdtTpLWDbDE by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-10-15T21:33:14Z
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@lunduke @ParadeGrotesque Lunduke? Is that British royalty or something?
(DIR) Post #9nxiq8nUGQs7NLFbJQ by systunknown@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T21:35:48Z
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@lunduke Damn. That's kinda cool.
(DIR) Post #9nxiuoCeGBiWx4FH9c by pootz@social.putz.space
2019-10-15T21:36:39Z
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@lundukeNot bad
(DIR) Post #9nxkE0w5FBAxtkDdrs by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-10-15T21:51:22.580848Z
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@lunduke but does it run plan 9
(DIR) Post #9nxkNZi5K7KQM3EKsS by nonetrix@niu.moe
2019-10-15T21:53:05Z
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@xj9 @lunduke is their a arm port?
(DIR) Post #9nxkQwsbdSvd5ClBnE by nonetrix@niu.moe
2019-10-15T21:53:40Z
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@xj9 @lunduke could also run it in qemu
(DIR) Post #9nxkTKW2jCoqy5LGAi by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-10-15T21:54:08.492141Z
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@nonetrix @lunduke yes https://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/file/f23608703701/arm64
(DIR) Post #9nxkfq8Szb2uVgHO9w by 361.xj9@social.sunshinegardens.org
2019-10-15T21:56:24.014601Z
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@nonetrix @lunduke emu doesn't count
(DIR) Post #9nxlHh5n3yS3T24tKi by 9njT0dNsbv8Yr3nj7I.csolisr@social.azkware.net
2019-10-15T22:03:11Z
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@lunduke At long last, a way to actually write a novel while on the bus! Closest I've achieved is using #xpra to stream my server, but the HTML5 interface is so wonky it won't work on my phone...
(DIR) Post #9nxlPweB7CaO1f64NU by xmanmonk@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-10-15T22:04:38Z
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@lunduke Admittedly, that is pretty damn cool.
(DIR) Post #9nxn4oErNk1tm6IuP2 by jplock@plock.social
2019-10-15T22:23:15Z
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@lunduke /cc @libreoffice
(DIR) Post #9nxoeeM1i24bUwJHkG by zaidka@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T22:40:58Z
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@lunduke But can it run Crysis though?
(DIR) Post #9nxqBlhXVwAxnKjEUC by abbluiz@mastodon.social
2019-10-15T22:58:06Z
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@lunduke That's amazing, especially considering I can't do this on Android, at least not properly
(DIR) Post #9nxrftM5ikzQAucl4y by tpharrison@social.librem.one
2019-10-15T23:14:49Z
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@lunduke Nice
(DIR) Post #9ny8HUeLceEVp57CYS by ademalsasa@floss.social
2019-10-16T02:20:40Z
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@lunduke hi Bryan Lunduke, this is fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
(DIR) Post #9ny9WpGNMfAA3HmGP2 by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T02:34:53Z
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@csolisr Both vim and emacs have long been in Termux on Android.Though there's Androids wonderful random app termination...@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nyCe2zwzoKYXYEJ2e by 9njT0dNsbv8Yr3nj7I.csolisr@social.azkware.net
2019-10-16T03:09:45Z
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@dredmorbius @lunduke I've tried a lot of text editors, and there's one major problem they share: they can't edit a novel because it literally doesn't fit in memory! (At least, I'm working on one that clocks at around 250K words and I'm still trimming it)
(DIR) Post #9nyCiiJ5LyM5oaPAUS by 9njT0dNsbv8Yr3nj7I.csolisr@social.azkware.net
2019-10-16T03:10:37Z
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@dredmorbius @lunduke And the second major problem: it's not comfortable to be using the phone on one hand and a cheat sheet to remember what each button on Vim/Emacs does on the other.
(DIR) Post #9nyF2C6F0ZvdcsoWXo by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T03:36:35Z
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@csolisr Vim definitely doesn't have that problem.I don't know what its upper limits are, but suspect it's > 1 million pages.@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nyFPHxZO1rUSfloq8 by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T03:40:45Z
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@csolisr Vim on 32 bits: 2GB.On 64 bits: Exabytes.2 GB is about 1.3 million pages of 8-byte charactersets 250 words/pg.https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12471311/what-is-the-largest-file-size-that-can-be-opened-by-vim-64-bit#12471446@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nyFhvsZhok1TwK9Y0 by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T03:44:07Z
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@csolisr Learning vim properly helps markedly.I invested the 2 weeks or so required back in the late 1980s. Skill-wise, probably one of the greatest payoffs ever for me.Excellent video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=wlR5gYd6um0(It taught me things, after 30+ years.)@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nyKL16UcAjEnOj5rU by 9njT0dNsbv8Yr3nj7I.csolisr@social.azkware.net
2019-10-16T04:35:59Z
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@dredmorbius@lundukeNot sure if it's an impairment, but the times I've attempted to do vimtutor, I can literally feel my brain forgetting the keybindings of chapter 2 to make space for chapter 3. It's one of those courses that are expected to be finished in a single session, anyway.
(DIR) Post #9nyPYw0AsbdqnVE7jU by tootbrute@scholar.social
2019-10-16T05:34:26Z
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@debugninja unless you plug in a monitor to it.
(DIR) Post #9nyQzoIniMUEgsJnkG by kakol@freespeechextremist.com
2019-10-16T05:50:38.266444Z
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@lunduke itjustworks™
(DIR) Post #9nyYE9rf2hrXIXPdlw by qwazix@cybre.space
2019-10-16T07:11:35Z
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@lunduke it took ten years but at last!Obligatory screenshot of the predecessor
(DIR) Post #9nyaAGChjMyhi2WaKu by unfa@mastodon.social
2019-10-16T07:33:17Z
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@lunduke This is pretty amazing!
(DIR) Post #9nyb7db6OigDLfFXuq by deyenor2@social.librem.one
2019-10-16T07:44:01Z
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@lunduke oh yeah! Now that's what I'm talkin' about! :D
(DIR) Post #9nybXdiGagEVEh01su by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-10-16T07:48:44Z
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@unfa @lunduke but also pretty useless...
(DIR) Post #9nyccLXHhSzGGLfezI by setthemfree@mamot.fr
2019-10-16T08:00:47Z
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@Wolf480pl I would still prefer this to an android phone, if only I could afford it. It would still be much more useful to me than having a locked-down and vulnerable OS in my pocket all the time.I hope with time these devices become more affordable.
(DIR) Post #9nyciwi4OvdRIErY5A by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-10-16T08:02:00Z
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@setthemfree yeah definitely. I'm not criticizing the phone or the OS. It's just that I don't see the point of running LibreOffice on a phone - without a proper mouse and keyboard, it'd be pretty unwieldy.
(DIR) Post #9nycvT6LnO8vEGBtfE by lapor@toot.si
2019-10-16T08:04:14Z
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@lunduke LibreOffice was installed as #flatpak or deb?
(DIR) Post #9nydS2EehhRNSgbXPs by setthemfree@mamot.fr
2019-10-16T08:10:07Z
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@Wolf480pl Sometimes, although very rarely, I needed to open odt/docx files on a phone. And I think it could even be useful in this current state to be able to read the content of such files (switching to "web view" could help on a small screen).
(DIR) Post #9nydcxPiyDYXh3zRA0 by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-10-16T08:12:05Z
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@setthemfree well if you had a dedicated document viewer, as opposed to an editor, it wouldn't have all those toolbars that take most of the space.
(DIR) Post #9nye5xiKvumh1SWgnQ by Joachim_Rees@mastodon.technology
2019-10-16T08:17:21Z
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@Wolf480pl I could imagine that attaching those devices (Mouse, keyboard, a screen) to the phone could replace 90% of the use-cases for a PC, so I think it is pretty nice AND might be very useful, if standard software runs on it!@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nyettYoeMl2cTsnmy by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-10-16T08:26:23Z
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@Joachim_Rees @lunduke IIRC Ubuntu Touch was pushing that workflow back then when it was still a thing. I still think that a situation in which we need to carry 4 cores and 4GB of RAM with us to display a map or view a website is pathological. But now that we've ended up in it, guess it wouldn't be bad if people could attach some sane peripherals to the 4 cores and 4GB of RAM they already have as use it as a regular PC.
(DIR) Post #9nyhLeNStTLDXxw5tQ by espectalll@mstdn.io
2019-10-16T08:53:50Z
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@lunduke what a monstrosity have you unleashed upon these lands
(DIR) Post #9nz2LAm13hwUlk27IO by MGaines16@mastodon.social
2019-10-16T12:49:00Z
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@lunduke can this thing hook up to a HP lapdock
(DIR) Post #9nz4eX6YSJSvRG01Gy by acesabe@mastodon.social
2019-10-16T13:14:54Z
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@lunduke @glsk pretty close to the last thing I'd want or need on my phone tbh.. more useful on a tablet with keyboard/mouse perhaps...
(DIR) Post #9nz66PX8IbVi1FHvHs by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T13:31:13Z
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@csolisr That's where trating vim as a language, [count] + target + action, helps a lot.The basic vim tutorial should give you the basics.Beyond that: practice and familiarity.@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9nz7fVCNKNsvg9sLia by 9njT0dNsbv8Yr3nj7I.csolisr@social.azkware.net
2019-10-16T13:48:42Z
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@dredmorbius @lunduke I'm well aware of Vim keybindings being not unlike Regex, the problem is memorizing them all. I agree on the "Practice and Familiarity" part, but it's really difficult to reach that level when you need a cheat sheet for even moving the cursor.
(DIR) Post #9nz8B61ST29irapnBA by rlaska@social.librem.one
2019-10-16T13:54:27Z
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@lunduke I bet you can clear a lot of the clutter away in settings. What about abiword?
(DIR) Post #9nzDyIWJI1HLaIXt7Q by dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud
2019-10-16T14:59:23Z
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@csolisr hjkl, based on the Lear Siegler ADM-3A terminal keyboard Bill Joy was using:https://www.gilesorr.com/vim/linuxcon/@lunduke
(DIR) Post #9o1LT3uejlmBFkTBWy by debugninja@banana.dog
2019-10-17T15:32:47Z
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@tootbrute nothing says useful as plugging your phone into a monitor :p
(DIR) Post #9o3Lmqb8flk7iUXjwe by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-18T14:45:37Z
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It's amazing to me how much software is already available on the Librem 5.- Some of it optimized for touch screens.- Some partially optimized.- Some not yet optimized, but functional.The power of Free and Open Source software (and Linux) at work. :)#Librem5
(DIR) Post #9o3Pki8rXaqIjCYPGi by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-10-18T15:30:12Z
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@lunduke You got LibreOffice on it!?
(DIR) Post #9o3Tk3NdUXRs7mPEpM by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-18T16:14:55Z
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@masterofthetiger Yup. :)
(DIR) Post #9o3U6d1jddml3GvW3k by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-10-18T16:18:59Z
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@lunduke How well does it work?
(DIR) Post #9o3cfAsB6dBDVBRLzk by mmanfredi@social.librem.one
2019-10-18T17:54:51Z
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@lunduke with the default dialer, are there any settings where you can connect to a VoIP sip account?
(DIR) Post #9o3rlXqk5eIRoUGSJM by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-18T20:44:00Z
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I am seriously blown away by how much of the @gnome software works on the smaller, touch-centric screen of the #Librem5.The work of the GNOME team, the @purism crew, and so many independent developers that are making this happen... truly impressive.All of you rule.
(DIR) Post #9o5ZQwe1IaKLlzGEs4 by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T16:28:04Z
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I find task switching on the #Librem5 (PureOS) really interesting.The launcher and the switcher are the *same* view.No apps are running: the grid of installed apps takes up the full view.With apps are running: the top half becomes a row of the apps you can swipe through.
(DIR) Post #9o5ZZGEKMcNEpjD0Sm by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T16:29:36Z
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@masterofthetiger Weirdly well. The UI is cramped as heck (obviously), but it's totally actually usable. And honestly doesn't look bad! Just... so rad.
(DIR) Post #9o5aLkxHQqRc1dMLrs by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T16:38:21Z
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iOS and Android both have task switching and app launching as different functions and views. Are there any operating systems that put them together like on the #Librem5?I'm drawing a blank. But I kind of dig it!
(DIR) Post #9o5aSR53iuesPeBPTE by n0btc@mastodon.radio
2019-10-19T16:39:32Z
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@lunduke what is the accessibility like? Are their any options for us with low vision/blindness?
(DIR) Post #9o5ac7SBYDfOR7cLom by mariusor@metalhead.club
2019-10-19T16:41:18Z
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@lunduke I think the way Sailfish OS does it, it's slightly better, as it dedicates the whole screen to the task switching grid.https://i1.wp.com/techworm.page/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/sailfishos-xperiaxa2-760x428.jpg?resize=760%2C428
(DIR) Post #9o5aqZZFovhzgVoeES by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T16:43:56Z
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@mariusor Sailfish definitely does it in an interesting way. I find the differences in task switching/management between different systems oddly fascinating. :)
(DIR) Post #9o5bORN8nTno74Icu8 by mariusor@metalhead.club
2019-10-19T16:50:00Z
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@lunduke for me personally Purism's decision to not go with Sailfish or Nemo as an OS was the deciding factor in not supporting their campaign. Yet I am very happy their OS version is fulfilling other people's needs and that we have more options for non-Adroid linux mobile OSes. Maybe an application ecosystem will finally start growing... I know that on Sailfish it's a bit sparse at the moment. :D
(DIR) Post #9o5iaATM9g0WqykInA by ranfdev@linuxrocks.online
2019-10-19T18:10:33Z
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@lundukeActually android has a similar experience. By swiping up from the navigation bar, you open the multitasking view, which has a small dock on the bottom.If you swipe up again, you open the entire app drawer
(DIR) Post #9o5kGeF9xPlXIrvR2G by squire@mstdn.io
2019-10-19T18:29:26Z
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@lundukeNice. Similarly LineageOS allows you to long press on the menu/options button to go into split screen/app view. Don't use it much but like the option
(DIR) Post #9o5kHCW0XHRday4N16 by rlaska@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T18:29:34Z
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@lunduke Man, that’s some clean UI!
(DIR) Post #9o5s6qvcjulpNlczGC by crhilton@social.librem.one
2019-10-19T19:57:22Z
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@lunduke isn’t that pretty much how gnome is?
(DIR) Post #9o5vPN0KWKljwHLn1M by replikvlt@niu.moe
2019-10-19T20:34:21Z
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@lunduke this is exactly the reason i, and probably everyone wanted GNU/Linux distributions on phones.You don't have to have 20+GB <some popular OS from an evil ompany> Studio to build apps to run on.As well as ability to recompile large margin of *well written* software, even the ones that you run on PC.Now this i call Pocket Computer!
(DIR) Post #9o5w6oFh5cBytmFaLo by replikvlt@niu.moe
2019-10-19T20:42:12Z
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@xj9 i see a fellow Plan9 fan
(DIR) Post #9o6IQhlF8BshY9toBs by Zaney@social.linux.pizza
2019-10-20T00:52:14Z
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@lunduke I love the both together like that! It makes so much sense to be honest. The Librem 5 is so exciting and I cannot wait to be able put my money towards this absolutely delightful project!
(DIR) Post #9o6Ia0Qz4dWG4PrHDk by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-20T00:53:57Z
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Installed unmodified desktop #DOSBox on my #Librem5.Performance is fantastic (can play some great DOS-era games), but the display is just a tiny bit too big for the screen.Then I remembered it fit on the Librem 5 dev kit with one line changed in the .conf. (Window size.)
(DIR) Post #9o6Ib2JPZrUQBSo8Iq by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-10-20T00:54:06Z
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I should make a patch for dosbox.conf in the package for the #Librem5. That way it'll fit on the screen just right for folks when they install it, with no fiddling.Getting DOSBox just right on my phone.I've got my personal priorities. ;)
(DIR) Post #9o6Sv2JkGYuzXA8gmu by kazriko@arkaic.com
2019-10-20T02:49:48Z
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@lunduke PalmOS? Of course, that was because the only way to switch tasks in it was to just launch the program again.
(DIR) Post #9o7TZqsPtyGF58mLIm by ns@social.librem.one
2019-10-20T14:31:45Z
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@lunduke Whats the deal with your librem 5, it doesn't seem to charge? Asides from the initial charge from manufacture every photo shows it on charge and empty. Also you promised videos! um pretty please :)
(DIR) Post #9o7cRrEnZhmtTLViSG by Phaserune@boosterfive.com
2019-10-20T16:11:15Z
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@lundukeOne of the first things I'm going to do when I get mine is put dosbox on it and then see if it'll run wizardry 7. If it does, it'll be nirvana.
(DIR) Post #9o9Mr0s3gaZlddlc8W by alex@mytoot.de
2019-10-21T12:25:46Z
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@lunduke @purism @byterazor
(DIR) Post #9o9NxWgaPZUE0D4R1c by Batcastle@linuxrocks.online
2019-10-21T12:38:22Z
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@lunduke I know Android 9 and up have a small row of apps it thinks you may want to launch at the bottom of the task management screen. But it's nothing compared to what it seems like PureOS here is doing.
(DIR) Post #9o9QzI5Zx9MBAlIGem by z428@social.tchncs.de
2019-10-21T13:12:17Z
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@lunduke Hmmm. Generally like this approach, but then again, talking to my peers using Android and iPhones, I'm sure I know which questions I'll have to answer: Connectivity to WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram? Mail client that works well on a small display? Personal experience with most of the GNOME software is that, though some of the applications are sort of optimized for touch, few seem actually even remotely optimized for small displays... starting with indeed LibreOffice.
(DIR) Post #9oAB5MnPxdYxOsdNVw by melroy@toot.melroy.org
2019-10-21T21:48:45Z
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@lunduke A new era has begun! 😍
(DIR) Post #9oAheBLBjy1UXb4iY4 by goatwildernesscollective@social.librem.one
2019-10-22T03:53:41Z
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@lunduke only Good if you can play Doom!!
(DIR) Post #9oGY5bfU89xJQ3laiG by adam@social.librem.one
2019-10-24T23:34:52Z
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@lunduke Does Gnome Evolution work for email? I love that program.
(DIR) Post #9omA4M5updwD7M2fRY by DragoCubed@mastodon.social
2019-11-09T05:36:27Z
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@lunduke I think there were things like Palm OS, Jolla and Blackberry OS?
(DIR) Post #9oqDBfewEEnRieQwRU by solarkraft@mastodon.social
2019-11-11T04:30:11Z
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@lundukeThis is exactly what I was most excited for about a Linux phone. Finally useful software!