Post 9nos1clPDozIvFD0dc by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
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(DIR) Post #9nkoSoY8z1V1muqAgC by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-10-09T16:07:29Z
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Public service announcement to #Gab and #Spinster instances. Boost if you agree.#IsolateGab
(DIR) Post #9nkqnxPnPus1Gz94Xg by pengowen@botsin.space
2019-10-09T16:31:46Z
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@isolategab Source is xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1357/All their comics have additonal text shown on mouseover that's worth reading.
(DIR) Post #9nkrkav0hagyaQhpMO by dym@merveilles.town
2019-10-09T16:44:23Z
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@isolategab bUt wHaT iF oBaMa wErE oRaNgE?!!!
(DIR) Post #9nkrkm8B0ylBMRwzuS by epicmorphism@satania.space
2019-10-09T16:44:29.347497Z
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@isolategab Americans thinking that everyone else is American and that “1st amendment” means something outside their country. Nothing new to see here.
(DIR) Post #9nm99V8TETqGGmQLUu by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T07:34:05Z
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@isolategab not only government, but the others too. That's why abusing Gap on server's level mean and wrong. Every user must decide by him/herself.
(DIR) Post #9nmgds2Fx9xIT0beD2 by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-10-10T13:49:19Z
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@sptnkmmnt those who don't agree with their instance's content policies regarding silencing or blocking, are fully free to go to others who they do agree with.
(DIR) Post #9nmhTIS1V4ovA7BEye by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T13:58:37Z
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@isolategab but if all of them will ban Gab? And, by the way, how long it takes to start ban those instances, that do not ban Gab? ;)I don't loke Gab or nazist, but I don't like some "antinazist" who do same things.
(DIR) Post #9nmr2d6hamxOwt89Ym by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-10-10T15:45:49Z
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@sptnkmmnt Then users are free to go to the gab mastodon instance if they want to.
(DIR) Post #9nmrco32OLmFJ3fOkq by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T15:52:19Z
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@isolategab your position is more nazi-like than you expect.
(DIR) Post #9nn53ZIqcVf0nZ9Z4q by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-10-10T18:22:53Z
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@sptnkmmnt It is simply freedom of association, and freedom of assembly. Gab users have every right under the GPL to fork mastodon and post there. Those who want to listen have every right to either join that instance, or join instances that federate them. But everyone also has the right to not do either.
(DIR) Post #9nn5YHdEN5Hwy9KjBo by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T18:28:27Z
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@isolategab "Why ban Gab" says user on the most populated instance that also bans Gab."Free Speech applies to companies and people, not just government" is a tired, weak, lazy argument that isn't even worth engaging with. Forcing people to be exposed to "speech" isn't "they'll hear new ideas." It's "they'll be unable to escape the endless torrent of hate and bigotry." If those are the ideas you think are worth expressing, you're on the wrong side of the Fediverse.
(DIR) Post #9nn5fZ59tCbX7Mrtpo by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T18:29:46Z
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@isolategab @sptnkmmnt "Why ban Gab" says user on the most populated instance that also bans Gab."Free Speech applies to companies and people, not just government" is a tired, weak, lazy argument that isn't even worth engaging with. Forcing people to be exposed to "speech" isn't "they'll hear new ideas." It's "they'll be unable to escape the endless torrent of hate and bigotry." If those are the ideas you think are worth expressing, you're on the wrong side of the Fediverse.
(DIR) Post #9nn5ltKHXHcZdmxVpY by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T18:30:55Z
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@isolategab @sptnkmmnt I and many others are already banning instances that publicly side with Gab, because anyone promoting and giving aid to literal Nazis are not people worth interacting with.
(DIR) Post #9nn5rGTKuHj6sIkwfw by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T18:31:52Z
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@isolategab @sptnkmmnt It's not "Nazi like" It's refusing to bow to the intolerant because they claim that's also intolerance. It's a well known false idea.
(DIR) Post #9nn7jK2ByjkdVxOsQC by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T18:52:52Z
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@isolategab "Those who want to listen have every right to either join that instance"Yep. And thats not instance admin or some guy, writing a client app prerogative to decide this dor user.
(DIR) Post #9nn88a4TUW4CUWVoOW by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-10-10T18:57:27Z
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@sptnkmmnt If you don't like one instance's moderation policy, there are plenty to chose from that have different silencing/blocking policies you are free to choose one you like. Or join the instance you wish to directly.
(DIR) Post #9nn8txUwCzLgl6Tuts by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T19:05:50Z
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@isolategab ah, charming. Your opinion is close to Duche. If u don't like Italian goverment u just can go anywhere else. Just pay the tax for leaving.Today u gangbang Gab, next monday some freak can think "hey, communist are bad guys too". Or russians. Or some orthodox jews. This is the way to broke federation into some pieces, like U.S. did with Socialst Federal Republic Jugoslavia. Just split good nations from bad nations. Good instances from bad.Happy Tree Friends.
(DIR) Post #9nn9pARMlH3bPB5eHQ by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T19:12:17Z
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@mlubert @isolategab f*ck, you look more like them than u think. Especially when u do not want to think a little.I never see a post from there by myself. If I see some nazi propoganda - I just ban it. If I see some illegal things - I warn the moderator to delele this. We can not ban the whole instance preventive - we have no rights for this. Thats break the fediverse principles. Thats not a free space, but a couple of pocket duches-admins and a wall between users.
(DIR) Post #9nn9pBDDtLL1nbTrsG by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T19:16:19Z
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@sptnkmmnt @isolategab "You're a Nazi because you don't allow people to freely harass others and spew hate speech."Nah. "We can not ban the whole instance preventive - we have no rights for this"We have total rights for this. You have no right to restrict an instance's behavior, unless you own the instance.You act like people are being deprived of life changing info, and not memes making fun of minorities.
(DIR) Post #9nn9wPKpmXcVcwUGw4 by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2019-10-10T19:16:03Z
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@mlubert @isolategab @sptnkmmnt Oh, how droll. Does sputnik try the old "maybe the ones fighting Nazis are the real Nazis?" canard?Can't see their input myself, for some reason.
(DIR) Post #9nn9wPobzpRJ7IQ3Lk by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T19:17:37Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab @sptnkmmnt Here's their comments.
(DIR) Post #9nnA03X2mrfjAFwDLM by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T19:18:18Z
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@sptnkmmnt @isolategab Also, you don't see anything because your instance blocks Gab completely outright. You can't see it even if you wanted to.
(DIR) Post #9nnAdccAHiIXGUCRO4 by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T18:58:20Z
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@mlubert @isolategab ""Why ban Gab" says user on the most populated instance that also bans Gab"Im on my way to pleroma, btw.My account on mastodon.social is more than 3 y/o. And when Eugen did this mistake - I wrote about that."Free Speech" is a right to speak everything that is not forbidden by law w/o any consecquences.Baning Gab on a server level - is a strict break of this freedom.Users can decide by themselves, admins have no right to decide for them.
(DIR) Post #9nnAdgz02kwMoSujXE by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T19:25:11Z
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@sptnkmmnt @isolategab Let us know the instance you choose! We promise not to block it!Also good job deciding that the USA's first amendment which prevents government censorship of speech ACTUALLY means that nobody can stop anyone ever from anything.Guess what, you just admitted to it by admitting to blocking hate speech.It's not a law. It's not an ethical concern. You're claiming a slippery slope when it doesn't exist.
(DIR) Post #9nnAkHFQ7mVB1Xjbm4 by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2019-10-10T19:24:20Z
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@mlubert @isolategab @sptnkmmnt Wow. Distortion central.I am 99% sure that nobody in their right mind would seriously think "admins have no right to decide which instances they want to communicate with".i.e. I am 99% sure that's an agitprop account.I mean, even pleroma devs are less disingenuous!
(DIR) Post #9nnAkHtTiqXp1mTbDE by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T19:26:39Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab @sptnkmmnt "Hey this instance only exists to post hate speech and attack my users endlessly, but it's illegal for me to do anything about it. Which law? Free Speech. What sovern body enacted that law? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SHUT UP YOU'RE A NAZI"
(DIR) Post #9nnESjcUIadJcePmOu by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T20:02:21Z
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@mlubert @ansugeisler @isolategab "only exists to post hate speech and attack my users endlessly"They did this message? On top of their COU?They closed open registration on their instance?If not - there can be not only "hate speech users".
(DIR) Post #9nnESl0z6zp3wusrDs by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:08:12Z
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@sptnkmmnt @ansugeisler @isolategab Yawn. Go peddle your "Not all Gabbers" elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #9nnF7AqKVEJxdZAjXE by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:13:46Z
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@sptnkmmnt @ansugeisler @isolategab To sum up your views, because you seem incapable of seeing why your views are wrong:"We have to allow Nazis to harass people, and we can't let instance OWNERS (the ones actually paying money to host and run their instances) to restrict what other instances they communicate with. We must freely allow any other instance to contact my mine and put ANY content on my server, even if it's directly threatening my users, because it's mean and bad otherwise"
(DIR) Post #9nnFD1n14mMJIPPiGe by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T20:10:16Z
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@mlubert @ansugeisler @isolategab Q.E.D.U are like Gab trolls. Just another colour of the flag, principles are the same
(DIR) Post #9nnFDA04Y7YWlDaFjF by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:16:30Z
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@sptnkmmnt @ansugeisler @isolategab "Q.E.D"Spoken by someone who would fail a basic logic class. Because you've already failed for continually spouting the Paradox of Intolerance.If you join a neo-Nazi motorcycle gang, you give up the right to be offended when people assume you're a neo-Nazi and kick you out of their restaurant. You can't sue them for denying your right to yell racial slurs, and other patrons can't sue the restaurant for kicking you out.
(DIR) Post #9nnFa9SMjjtjjcmTAW by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:19:31Z
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@sptnkmmnt @ansugeisler @isolategab By your logic, spam filters are illegal because spam emails and viruses should be considered protected speech.
(DIR) Post #9nnG3OoMj7kTks18fQ by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-10-10T20:25:45Z
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@mlubert @isolategab @sptnkmmnt Some people just don't see the emotional toll bigotry takes on its targets, or they do see it and think we should just accept it as a cost of social interaction. OK. There are still spaces where I *have* to do that. But here it's bigots who risk paying a price for a change, because their ability for limitless, full-blown interaction can be at least partially curtailed.Yeah, I remain good with this attempt at *some* balance.
(DIR) Post #9nnGSNntbslHryi8US by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T20:28:14Z
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@xenophora @mlubert @isolategab you have the right to ban someone for yourself. But ban someone for someone third...
(DIR) Post #9nnGSbfC527Sr2kNs0 by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-10-10T20:30:03Z
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@sptnkmmnt @mlubert @isolategab Don't be ridiculous.When I sign up to an instance and it says, in its terms, that hate speech will not be tolerated, I have every right to expect that they will in fact shut out Gabbers and their ilk. The End.
(DIR) Post #9nnGgmRQnwOgKu4IxE by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:32:56Z
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@xenophora @isolategab @sptnkmmnt And if the whole thing slides into a massive collection of split instances, oh well? Most people will abandon the network, or create new nodes and tools and new federations. (nearly) Nobody would be on Mastodon if there wasn't such a harassment and bigotry problem on Facebook and Twitter.
(DIR) Post #9nnGmXjWOzzUSOHIDQ by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:34:09Z
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@sptnkmmnt @xenophora @isolategab What "right" are you talking about? It's my software on hardware I pay for. What right do you have to demand I, as a citizen, bow to YOUR views of what I should do with my hardware>
(DIR) Post #9nnGoBC3Axp787P0Cm by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:34:21Z
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@sptnkmmnt @xenophora @isolategab What "right" are you talking about? It's my software on hardware I pay for. What right do you have to demand I, as a citizen, bow to YOUR views of what I should do with my hardware?
(DIR) Post #9nnH3MXBIEqse9WfHk by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T20:33:31Z
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@xenophora @mlubert @isolategab today they shut up some gabbers, tomorrow they shut up some russians, next week they ban jews or arabs.Where is the limit? And why should we belive that the limit ever exist?It's like carpet bombing, IMHO
(DIR) Post #9nnH3T0pCw84jpRQK8 by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:37:15Z
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@sptnkmmnt @xenophora @isolategab Ah repeating the slippery slope fallacy.You act like being Jewish and calling Jewish people horrible things are equal. And again, "they" is a group of people running their own software. Their own the homes THEY pay for that they let others use (often for free). And you're claiming they MUST let Nazis in.
(DIR) Post #9nnHL2vAx7Gl1xBIqe by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:40:28Z
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@sptnkmmnt @xenophora @isolategab That you keep dancing around pretending this is a legal issue and a moral issue, when it's an issue where people are allowed to decide what they do with their property. If you don't like it, you DON'T get to overrule them and demand that they allow harassment, especially under the guise of you protecting their users. Because you're not, you're exposing them to hate, bigotry, and endless attacks.
(DIR) Post #9nnHd2fqbu7FTaaotc by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-10-10T20:43:29Z
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@sptnkmmnt @mlubert @isolategab Wake me when you find some proof that these bannings you describe are happening. Mods have been working for months now to keep Gab off in its own little corner. Your "tomorrow" never comes, so far as I can see.In the meantime, buzz off. You're dense and boring, like all Gab defenders. None of you ever has any new material. Always the same old fatuous crap.
(DIR) Post #9nnHk2scF8Ck8ru93I by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-10T20:44:57Z
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@sptnkmmnt @xenophora @isolategab You're either SO naive that you need to examine how the world actually works, or you are acting in bad faith. I'm done replying to you. You can't see why racism/sexism/homophobia is bad, so you conclude it's not happening, or it's not really that bad. Grow up and stop insisting instance owners can't decide what their instance is exposed to.
(DIR) Post #9nnLdQViO0QBDkIB9s by sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social
2019-10-10T20:26:25Z
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@mlubert @ansugeisler @isolategab U did it. Again. U decide for the other person, labeled this person and then started to fight with this fiction windmill.People's opinion that u do not like (or even too cool to see) is not a spam.But u do not gove a try to understand that. Thats dumb.But, in your opinion, I have logic probems. Lol.
(DIR) Post #9nnPaFhEXJjOd3QCzA by charlag@birb.site
2019-10-10T22:08:10Z
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@mlubert @isolategab @sptnkmmnt@mastodon.social bUt rEaL nAziS aRe pEoPlE wHo fIgHt nAzIsbUt uSeRs mUsT dEcIdE oN mArKeTpLaCe of iDeAswhy it's always the same, christ. There's nothing to debate there and no one is obliged to listen to that garbage.
(DIR) Post #9nos1cGD5o2BMUc60u by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2019-10-11T07:24:44Z
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@mlubert @isolategab Dude's m.s account doesn't show up in search any more.Dude has a .qoto and a .pixelfed account as well, and at very least .qoto is a well-known freeze-peach pit.
(DIR) Post #9nos1clPDozIvFD0dc by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-11T15:06:04Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102941962242583238He claims he left Pixelfed because there was too much LGBTQ content (at least that's what Google Translate's mangling of it seems to indicate). https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102941814277912696Here he seems to be indicating a new conspiracy theory that Eugen put a backdoor to censor ANY instance running Mastodon code (that's one I've not seen before but tracks with right wing conspiracy mentality) https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102941826469161090Here's him pretending he's a martyr.
(DIR) Post #9nosP5GXPxpdyqxP1s by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-11T15:10:29Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102941866038066288Here he admits to defending Nazis.https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102942404992580051LOL Here he actually admits it's 100% within the rights of the server host to do what they want to moderate the server.So yeah, he's a propaganda troll.
(DIR) Post #9nosVlVlGM06jxGPEe by ansugeisler@scholar.social
2019-10-11T05:56:22Z
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@mlubert @isolategab Also, it is not a fact that all speech must be heard.It is not a fact that society depends on that, or that it is beneficial in any way.It's just a "Principle" that some people take way too seriously.The actual fact is that this is a matter of signal-to-noise. Harmful speech drowns out other speech, so society in fact depends on the efficient silencing of harmful speech.And it is in fact beneficial to silence harmful speech.This is not difficult.
(DIR) Post #9nosVmLABF7LJNJSM4 by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-11T15:11:45Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab "Fire in a crowded theater""Telling a joke""Yelling racial slurs at people to dehumanize them"One of these things is OK.
(DIR) Post #9nppam6OO7iHJf3RY0 by mlubert@mastodon.circlelinego.com
2019-10-12T02:13:43Z
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@ansugeisler @isolategab https://qoto.org/@sptnkmmnt/102944710669740998Here he is pretending that he's a victim of censorship because when you're banned for siding with Nazis your posts are deleted. He was very sad earlier today as well about that. If you don't want to lose your follows/followers and all of your posts, don't violate the terms of service of the instance you're on?
(DIR) Post #9oK9qkjAXr4GuBiJcm by bagofshit@kiwifarms.cc
2019-10-26T17:22:09.731892Z
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@isolategab You're going to have to change your name to isolagegab&spinster.
(DIR) Post #9oSUG4IJtb3ZYSOKqO by beatingu@kiwifarms.cc
2019-10-30T17:48:31.658299Z
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@isolategab yes everyone has the right to think your fucking idiot. and definitely because gab is just a fork nowcookie.jpg
(DIR) Post #9oSycmuxfJhWwmDPyy by beatingu@kiwifarms.cc
2019-10-30T23:28:45.886000Z
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@isolategab this is all one funny joke.follow #isolategab to keep up to date with some retarded gay shit. #kiwifarmsblack brothers with afros who h…